June 11, 2025 • 42 mins
D'Arcy Waldegrave returned to wrap another day of sports news! Highlights for tonight include:
Ryan Fox ahead of the US Open.
Talkback - is Ryan Fox the consummate Kiwi sporting superstar?
Golf NZ CEO Jeff Latch on the effect Ryan is having on the game here.
Jon Norman from Talksport previews the cricket World Test Championship.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Waldegrave
from news Talk Zed.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be good evening, Welcome into sports door. Great to be here,
looking forward to bringing some sports straight into your living room,
or your car, or the man shed or the woman shed,
for that matter, wherever you might be. He's sitting at
a bus stop. I don't know anymore such as the
(00:32):
spread of radio. My name is Darcy Waldgrave. It is
as good as seven minutes after seven on our Wednesday evenings,
the eleventh of June twenty twenty five lined up for
you in the program tonight, we're gonna get a bit
golf greedy. Initially, we're gonna wallow in the bunkers if
you will. If you can do that, oh, we can
make sand angels and the bunkers. How do you think
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they'd like that?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
At the US?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Hoping they wouldn't, thank you very much. Producer and Millisch said,
we're going to I look this morning, I got up
some ungodly hour. Actually it wasn't amount nine o'clock to
talk Ryan Fox, who's had one. How the last few
weeks we talk about all sorts of things. He's he
to fun. He's such a good guy. He's so straight
(01:16):
down the line. The bloke hasn't changed as long as
I've been pestering him for interviews. We're going to talk
to him shortly and then we'll have a quick chat
with Jeff Latch. He's the chief executive officer of New
Zealand Golf. Just talk about the Fox effect and of
course the co effect as well, and how big, how good,
how powerful that.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Has been for New Zealand Golf.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Will take your calls on on on Fox, on Ryan
Fox and his ability to on his ability to appeal
to the masses with who he is and how he is.
Is there another sportsperson out there that is so quintessentially
(02:01):
New Zealand that does so well? What is it about Foxy?
And has he actually driven you to play the game?
I shouldn't say drive, that's a terrible pumpit, but has
he has he had a palpable effect on you, your friend, yourself?
Are you getting out there more? Do your kids want
to go and play the game? How strong is what
Ryan Fox has been doing has been altering your opinions
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or guiding your opinions around what you want to play
and what you want to watch and we'll finish things
off of and old Cobbra. Mind that John Norman works
for Talk Sport and we'll go to Lords where he
is lurking waiting for the start of the Cricket Test
World Championship gets underway in about two and a half
hours time. That's our plan, That's what intend to do.
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So let's do it Sport today and Sport today, all black.
Caleb Clark is not going to League who the winger
has signed on with NS that are until the end
of twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
No League, No No.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
That was on the back of my mind though again
there was a thing I wanted to take off and
rug the Union that made me want to stay and
so getting to train with those guys, I'll.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Be grateful, real glad I did that because.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I've got to learn so much from a lot of
those guys, especially you know, like the likes of the
Trail Mitchell and Jack White and.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
And still in rugby, the Titanic class between the Blues
and the Crusaders and Fridays Super Rugby Pacific Final won't
feature another titan The immense frame of to might Ty
Williams won't be there. That George Bauer ll be fine,
says coach Rob Penny.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
George has been magnificent for us and you know he's
had an eighty and and a few you know, longer
stints on the park, so we've got no doubt he'll
do a great job. And Curse, as we know, has
done a great job for us when he's needed to,
so hope he is.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Former Proteus superstar Aby Devilliers is confident that South Africa
can beat Australia in the upcoming World Test Championship Final.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
It will not be easy for South Africa, but I
am quitely confident because we go there with quite a
lot of players in formed, a lot of players for
the big hearts that I've got something to prove. I
think it's going to be fantastic. It is the final
after all, and both teams to deserve to be there.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Ab conveniently forgetting that his team has this extraordinary density
to choke in key fixtures. The first balls due at
nine to thirty and the All Whites got beaten this
morning by Ukraine after a victory earlier in the piece
over the Ivory Coast that's in the Canadian Shield Tournament.
Coach Starren Beasley knows that experience against the top teams
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in global football has been of huge benefits.
Speaker 8 (04:42):
We haven't been in enough fights, we haven't been in
enough games like this for our team and our players
to really feel that. In these last two games, I
feel like they've felt the level that's needed.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
And that's sports today.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
He Zee's number one golfer, Ryan Fox, that joins us
now after a phenomenal couple of weeks on the PGA, Ryan,
I got I'll ask, have you spen any time sitting
down and caring and absorbing in what's happened to you
over the last few weeks.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
No, definitely, not at a week off after the PGA,
which kind of let a little bit of myrtle beachkin maybe,
But yeah, the last week, I don't know, I mean,
it was it was crazy, especially the finishes in both playoffs. Yeah,
I don't know if I'll ever quite figure out what happened,
but yeah, it's it's been a life changing month, to
be honest, And that's probably the only way I could
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describe it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
In life changing because of where you sit, your position
in the world of golf, because of the money that's
turned up, or the opportunities that have opened for you.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, it's it's more the more the latter part of
that than anything else. I mean, it's it's having some
security over here for a few years now, you know,
getting into some the big events. Obviously I played my
way into two majors in the last month as last
minute Charlie, you know, saying some of the signature events now,
you know, looking really good for the for the playoffs
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this year and into some some big events again for
next year, if iucking you know, Cement being in that
top fifty at the end of the year. So it's yeah,
it's changed everything PG tool wise. It's changed our lives
family immensely. You know, having that security and being able
to make decisions on our future with certainty is you know,
a big change from what it's been the last couple
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of years, that's for sure. So yeah, it's life changing,
as I said, was the best way to describe it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
What about the media, Ryan, I mean, you like your
old man Grant, you love a good yarn, and you're
always very open to talking to the media. But i'd
suggest over the last few weeks a little harder to
deal with. It's getting pretty intense.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, Look, I mean it's it's all I do love
a chat like the old man, and you know the
New Zealand media always fantastic. And you know, I've got
personal personal relationships with a lot of people, including yourself,
which is great. There's certainly been a few extra requests
this week that have come in and you know, a
couple via my manager and he's had to play bad
cop a couple of times, kind of staying foxy. You've
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got a major to prepare for, you need to rest,
chill out, and yeah, it's it's been a bit crazy.
Probably the craziest thing is trying to reply to all
the texts and everything else that has come through. Didn't
realize so many people had my phone number, to be honest,
so's it's. Look, they're all good problems to have, to
be honest. It's it can get pretty lonely when things
are going there the wrong way and you're struggling and
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no one really thinks about your worries about you. But
you know, when you're getting a bunch of messages and
interview requests and all that stuff, it means you're doing
something right.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Coping tools, Ryan, what have you got in your quiver
to deal with this because the more you advance up
the rankings, the more majors you compete in, the bigger
the pressure is going to be on you. This is
not golf. This is the horsepower up stairs. This is
your heads. What are you seeking in order to deal
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with this?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
I've worked with a sports site for a long time
go called Carl Morris, and you know that's more on
the golf course stuff. But I've never really had an
off an issue with the off the golf course stuff,
you know, apart from maybe I've got to be a
bit better at saying no and being being a bit
selfish in a way. And you know, obviously I've got
a young family as well, and I've I've got to
give them a bunch of time, you know, and you know,
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not be not be very selfish in that way. So yeah,
it's it's a learning curve, you know. I probably had
a little bit of it a couple of years ago
with that great run I had in Europe and then
winning it went Worth and stuff like that. So there
was a there was a pretty big uptick there, you know,
with with the off course responsibilities and sort of the
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newfound fame. I guess a little bit if you want
to put it that way. And I probably didn't realize
how big all of that was until, like I got
home at the end of the year and there was
a whole lot more pressure on my time in that regard.
And I'm sure it's going to be be the same
this year. You know, when I when I eventually get
home at the end of the year, it's I'm going
to get pulled in a bunch of different directions. And
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I said, as I said, I've just got to be
a bit better at saying no. And you know, it's
it's just a product of what it is. Like I'm
a I'm a father and a husband first, and I'm
a golf for second. And you know, it's uh, as
I said, they're good problems to have as well, and
I just got to find a nice balance with it.
And you know, if I do have to chat to someone,
I think probably someone in my family's got some pretty
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good experience of how to deal with that kind of
stuff as well, So I can lean on Dad a
little bit there, and yeah, so I'm sure I'll figure
it out going forward.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Family pressure, of course, Ryan is always very present. It's
not just you, it's your wife and your kids, your
direct family. So now knowing what your plan is over
the next two to three years, that must be a
huge source of calm for your entire family.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yeah, it's certainly for my wife more than anyone. It's
it's it's probably causing here a few problems about around
figuring out schooling and what we're going to do with
that kind of stuff. But we can we can make
those decisions with certainty now, as I said, and it's
you know, to have some security out here now for
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for three years. You know, we know we're going to
be based over here, We're going to look at buying
a house in America or all of that stuff that
goes with it. And yeah, there's there's still some tough
decisions to make. But you know a month ago, well,
you know, six weeks ago where you know, I always
kind of know we're on the FedEx Cup and you're going, well,
are we going to be living in the UK? Are
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we're going to be living in America? Are we going
to be back in New Zealand? Like what's going to
happen next year? So it's a whole lot better knowing
you know, the certainty around the golf and that I've
got a job for a while, and you know, that
makes it a whole lot easier to make those decisions,
and you know, can kind of can make an actual
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plan for the next two or three years, which we
certainly couldn't as of six weeks ago. So it's been
huge for the family in that regard. We start becoming
a bit acclimatized to America, getting used to it. You know,
it was it was tough last year traveling around all
over the place and having a basis year has been great.
And you know, kids love Florida. It's warm, they get
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to go for a swim every day when we're home.
It's you know, we've got some friends there. Now it's
you know, I wouldn't say it's starting to feel like home,
but you know, it's it's starting to feel a little
less like a foreign country at least.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Nothing like a home away from home. Mate, let's talk
about Marcus Wheelhouse. So here's your coach. He's turned up
a week before your first PG victory, and he did
it again a week before your last PG victory. So
plainly he's been instrumental in your rise and rise in
what you're doing out there on the track.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Yeah, it's some I think Wheely came up.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Obviously.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I've seen Weely at home a lot, and I haven't
been home this year since February. And you know, Marc
has stopped traveling a couple of years ago through COVID,
and we decided this year that you know, he was
up for traveling a bit more. And it's it's obviously worked.
You know, he came up in Dallas the week before
Myrtle Beach with probably a much more positive attitude about
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where my golf game was than where.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Where I thought it was.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
You know, I kind of felt like it was close,
but I was getting frustrated with it, with with things
a bit too much, and you know, we worked on
a couple of things. It was definitely a couple of
things to tweak and get right. But you know, Wheely
Weely came in and we found it really quickly earlier
in the week. And you know, I was pretty tough
on myself that week of Dallas and was a bit
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but frustrated at my golf game, and you know, he's like, mate,
we're there, we're there, just be patient, it's going to come.
And I didn't quite think it was going to come
straight away, but it did. And then it came up
from Memorial and that was a really solid week. I
you know, I had I was two shots away, you know,
from a top end that week, and you know, it
felt like I played really solid. And then you know,
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obviously we did some we carried on that good work
we've done a few weeks earlier, and then you know,
last week happened and I played really good. It hit
some amazing shots down the stretch and pretty decent one
in the playoffs as well. So it was, Yeah, it's
it's it's been it's been good having him up and
he's coming up for Scottish in the Open, so I
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certainly hope it works the same way again.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
You've played what you've described as the best golf shot
of your career that's set up your victory last week.
It was an astonishing shot. I looked to that and
also the chip to win as well a couple of
weeks earlier, and wonder how much of your internal confidence
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has bubbled to the top which allows you to make
decisions like that and play shots like that. It's a
huge amount of bravery behind that, Ryan.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah, I mean I think the one on Sunday, the
three what over the water, There was definitely some bravery
in that, and you know, I feel like I'm something
at good. I could see the shot pretty easy. It
makes it easy to pull the trigger on that shot.
I'd say the Chippin, you know, in terms of hardness
of shot wasn't wasn't a tricky shot. But obviously to
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Chippin under the circumstances is pretty incredible. But you know
that that one on eighteen three over over water from
two hundred and whatever meters it was to to sex foot,
it's going to be pretty hard to beat for me
going forward. You know, there's there's no luck involved in
that one. That's you know, that's just getting up and
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sucking it up and hitting a really good shot and
to do it under that that pressure, and you know,
in the end it was obviously to win the tournament
that it was, yeah, as pretty sweet and one I
certainly won't forget.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I'd say you could have drained that part and one
as well, but maybe that thought went through your head
and you were nice and careful because you did have
two shots to win.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
One hundred percent. You know, it's just don't do anything silly.
I didn't want to hit it. I obviously didn't want
to give myself any work coming back. I probably gave
myself six inches more than I really wanted to with
that part I had to market.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
But you know, I definitely wasn't worried about the next one.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
But yeah, look it was just get it down there,
don't do anything silly, and you know, don't get like
a high side lip out and have three foot coming back,
because then you look really silly.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I don't want to put the mircros on you, But
are you aware that you've got the third best major
cut making streak at the moment behind Chefle and Choffley, Like,
you've gone nine consecutive cuts now through majors.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Did you know that I knew made a lot in
a row.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
I think in twenty three and twenty four I made
all the major cuts in a row, which was pretty sweet,
and made the PGA. So yeah, it's a pretty good
streak to have. I'd like to have finished a bit
higher and a couple of the ones I've played, but yeah,
got there. I like hard golf, and this week's going
to be about as hard as it gets. Hopefully you
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haven't put the commentators curse on me there or anything,
and I missed the cut this week. But look, yeah,
just go out and see what happens. My prep's going
to be relatively limited after last week, just trying to
recover and get to Thursday will ce energy again. But
obviously I'm playing well as well, so I kind of
got nothing to lose this week. Go out and give
it a crack and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
You better make the cut, bro, I couldn't carry that
for the rest of my career, knowing that I've cursed you.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Ryan.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Just finishing up, You've noticeably lost weight. You're looking very
very trim out there on the track. Took us through that.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, look, this year's I had a big push at
the end of last year, to be honest, you know,
with a hip and drew last year, and I was
really struggling golf swing wise, and it affected me a
lot more than I thought it was. It wasn't really painful,
it was just I couldn't move it properly, and I
basically got told, you need to sort yourself out or
you're staring down the bowl of surgery.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
So it's obviously a bit of you to make a
change when you've got a.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Gun point into your head like that, And yeah, look,
I've tried my best to carry it on this year.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
It's hard to keep up with the gym stuff.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
During during tournament weeks, especially when you played a bunch
in a role when you know, after a week late
last week, I've I wouldn't want to think about going
to the gym this week. Could just kind of chill out.
But you know, trying to do things a little bit better,
it's kind of hard in America.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I do like my food they do.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
They generally do the fatty, sugary, good kind of foods
pretty well over here.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
So yeah, there's been there.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
There's been a couple of week moments, but you know,
for the most part, I'm trying to do a little
bit better. And obviously it's it's helped out on the
golf course this year massively.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Awon take much more of your time. But tweety years
since Michael Campbell did what Michael Campbell did at Pinehurst
in the US Open, it's kind of a nice parallel
moving into this twenty year anniversary.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yeah, look, obviously would love to replicate Cambo. It's I
remember vividly watching that event twenty years ago, and I
certainly love to do the same thing as what he did.
You know, I think it felt like the whole of
New Zealand stopped on that Monday morning, And yeah, if
I could do the same this year, it'd be great.
But there's also one hundred and fifty other guys in
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the field that are pretty damn good at golf trying
to do the same thing. So yeah, I'll be trying hard,
and yeah, I also be trying not to get beaten
up by Oakmont this week. It is probably the hardest
golf course I've ever played, and I've only played nine
holes so far, so looking forward to seeing what the
back nine shows up tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
So have you talked to him?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I got a message from Cambo after Canada, and he's
doing well from what I understand, and you know, playing
a bit of senior golf again, which is great to see.
You know, he retired relatively early there and I think
he was, you know, having some golf swing troubles and
it's great to see him back playing and enjoying golf again.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
And you know, I'd love to catch up with him
with some stage down line.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
That's he's He's helped me out a little bit of
my career, give me some some short game lessons and
a bit of been lucky enough to sit down and
have a chat with him a few times about how
we dealt with some pressure and stuff like that. So yeah,
I'd love to sit down and share a glass of
red wine with him and have a bit of a yarn.
He's he's great like that.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
We get the riffs call.
Speaker 9 (19:43):
You make a call on.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Sports Talking on your home of Sports Talks.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Seven twenty five. Jeff Latch is going to join us
Nancy cel Via Indied Golf talking about the Fox effected.
I'd like your thoughts to eighty.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
How much is Ryan.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Fox's success over the last few years more important in
the last few weeks driven you back to your golf
clubs again. Has it had a palpable effect and you're
engagement in the game. We'll find out after we talk
to Jeff Fletch coming up next, it's seven twenty six.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
You hear it from the biggest names and sports men.
Have your say on eighty Sports Talk or more on
your home of Sports News Talks.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
It be seven twenty nine Sports Talking out on News Talks.
It'd be Ryan Fox joining us for a year and
before top bloke, no change, not one bet or there's
just lost a few pounds, but that's because the doctor
held the gun to his head. Are We're going to
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be joined shortly by Jeff Flatt's CEO of in Z
Golf around the effect. But I've got call sung out,
take them, get out of Bruce, Darcy.
Speaker 10 (21:12):
Here you going. I just had to say the day
that the box he won the the Canadian Golf even
the brother he's a book player, so he was rained
off and order. I'm a bit light on work at
the prison. So so anyhow we should have up for
a game of golf and that was fun. But you
got to say, you know, it's his attitude. He's so
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bloody refreshing to the game of golf.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
He gets it.
Speaker 10 (21:35):
Yeah, like chooses club and away he goes, and yeah,
fantastic fast. Good for the game and.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
To him, because it's a key with you that represents
as out there. I don't think is any ears or
grace is about what he does or who he is.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
He just gets hold of his.
Speaker 10 (21:52):
Business exactly exactly Darcy, and you know it's good for
the game of golf. He's got. He deserves a messive following.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
He's got for it all.
Speaker 11 (22:04):
Ye, that's a key.
Speaker 10 (22:07):
We've been cock, you've been. Fox is now very rue, refreshing, fantastic.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, yeah, Bruce, thanks very much for calling through. I
think a lot of people can buy into that. Didn't
you get up and go and play golf? After you
did that on Monday?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Off to the golf course? Eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
How influential has Ryan Fox been? Not necessarily for you
in taking the game of golf up, but with your family,
with your children, the inspiration behind what they want to do,
because they need heroes and this guy is a hero
and he's very down to worth, He's very us and
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I think that drives a lot of people to the game.
We're joined now by Jeff Latch He's the CEO of
golf end Z. We talk about Ryan Fox and what
he's done. Welcome to the program, Jeff, are always.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Good to have you on.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
So how influential has has Ryan Fox being for his
own golf?
Speaker 12 (23:08):
The impact that Foxy has on the game of golf
in New Zealand is immense and it's overwhelmingly positive. And
I think probably the key thing that we see is
we see the impact that it has on kids picking
a golf club up and wanting to have a hit.
And if you look at our junior membership number over
the last twelve months, they're extraordinary. They've grown by over
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twenty five percent year on year, and so that's a
massive increase and our research shows that major drivers of
that are the performance of people like Foxy and Lydia
on the global stage. These are the people that inspire
kids to pick up a golf club and have a hit.
We can't overemphasize how important it is and what a
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boon it's been to New Zealand golf.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I think of the case of Lydia, especially Ryan, they
understand that and they contribute to that willingly and knowingly.
They like the fact they're bringing kids into the game.
They like the fact that people look up to them
and they're not shining.
Speaker 12 (24:06):
For Look, they're both terrific Kiwis, they're just terrific individuals
and they're really keen and conscious about wanting to give
back to the game of golf. And therefore, I mean,
look at the work that Ryan's done over the last
few days. I mean, we know he's trying to prepare
for the US Open. But how many interviews has he
done over the last three to four days. I mean,
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he's just been remarkable all at the same time while
he's trying to get.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Ready to play in one of the four majors.
Speaker 12 (24:32):
Yeah, I think Ryan and Lydia both are just amazing
examples of people that really care passionately about the sport,
want to give back and want to encourage other people
to take up the game that they love.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
So your stats back that up.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You've actually done research that says, yes, I'm following this
guy and this is why I've picked clubs up me.
Speaker 12 (24:52):
How accurate is there, Well, it's as accurate, I think
as any research can be, because there's always a range
of factors behind people starting to play the game of
golf or indeed any other sport. Family are really important,
Friends are really important also. I think with kids, it's
a lot of it is about inspiration from seeing people
on the global stage do well. I mean, look at
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the interviews that Ryan's done.
Speaker 11 (25:15):
I love the one that was on.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Here the other night.
Speaker 12 (25:18):
Were actually at the kids playing.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
In the bunker.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
I mean it was just awesome.
Speaker 12 (25:22):
We're how often do you see that and how good
is that for the game of golf, to show that
it's actually something that embraces everyone. It's for families, it's
not just for the players. It's things like that that
actually help out as well. They're really valuable.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I've been pestering Ryan Fox for I don't know how long.
He's not changed. He's always been available. He loves a
good yarn, and you mentioned before the key he's a
quintessential Kiwi on the world stage. I've seen no adjustment
and I don't think anything's going to change. You might
pick up a hatful of ages, makes no difference Ryan Fox.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
It's Ryan Fox.
Speaker 12 (25:57):
Yeah, And I think that's why he's so loved in
New Zealand and he has such fantastic support in New Zealand.
But equally he's got a terrific computation internationally within golf
circles as well. Like everyone likes Ryan and you see
it when he's wandering down the fairways. He's there, he's
having a yarn. He's actually he gets on well with
virtually everyone. He's a great guy. I mean, I can't
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think of a better ambassador for our sport. He's just
a quintessential down to earth Kiwi guy doing really well
on the world stage, immensely talented, but incredibly humble and
modest with it. He's a great guy.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
He's been very helpful. How much have you been behind
using his name, his brand and what he's achieved so
far to push New Zealand golf? Are you active in
that space?
Speaker 12 (26:45):
Jeff, No, We don't use anyone's brand without their approval,
right and so, and I think all players, Ryan included
Lydia et cetera quite rightly or really conscious of making
sure that their names are only used in the right way.
And so we haven't actively gone out and used Ryan's
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name or Lydias nor any of our other terrific golfers
at the moment, because I think that's the other part
of the story. I mean, we're all quite rightly celebrating
Ryan's achievements at the moment, and lydia is a few
months ago which were extraordinary as well.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
But it's not just two people.
Speaker 12 (27:22):
Now we've got Steve Elka on the Champions Tour, You've
got Dan Hillier, We've got Ben Campbell, Kazuma for Jonas
us now on the LPGA Tour as well.
Speaker 11 (27:33):
So we've got two players.
Speaker 12 (27:35):
We've got all these players that are actually coming through
at the moment that are doing well on the world
stage in golf, and that's wonderful. I mean, the sport
is in really good health. It's terrific.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
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Speaker 2 (27:56):
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How influential has Fox been with your golf, your kid's golf,
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your family's golf. What makes them so appealing?
Speaker 11 (28:24):
Now?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I know what makes them so appealing, but I want
you to tell me what makes them so appealing? Quite
a few texts coming in about the appeal of Grant Fox,
Ryan Fox and that and that.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Was a mistake.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
I think you could probably say that Ryan's now eclipsing
is old man on the.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Global sporting stage. I just found out. Oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty lines are open. This is News
Talk ZB. What makes them so relatable?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Seven forty Sports Talk on News Talk ZBB.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Why is he so relatable?
Speaker 5 (29:07):
What is it with Ryan Fox?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
We all know, I know some divoice that change your attitude?
Does it make you feel like you can go there
and swing our club? What you after that approach? The
final playoff whole No, because it was freak show stuff.
But what happens when you dedicate yourself to it?
Speaker 10 (29:24):
A Peter.
Speaker 9 (29:27):
Dead right, Darcy and hey what if brilliant going to do?
But Ryan is just yeah, as you say, is a
very humble man. And you know from the family with
Grant obviously the All Black and his grandfather played played
for News on a cricket team. But one scenario a
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lot do you just put forward to you? Twenty twenty
eight Los Angeles Olympics, both introduce appears tournament thirty six
holes male female? Can you imagine Ryan and Lidia together?
You not Scottie and Lilly?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
That that's the best prediction. I love that, Peter. I
want that to happen. The absolutely awesome it would, and
we'll see how Ryan progresses. I think the big thing,
big takeaway from me out of that chat is that
the comfortable place he finds himself in outside of golf
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and what that's going to do for his headspace over
the next few years. He talked of how comfortable his.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Wife is now. I know where the kids are going
to go to school.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I've got a house, I've got a base, And anyone
knows you're a partnership, husband, wife, whatever. If the other
side of the partnership isn't working and they're distressed or whatever,
you're not going to be able to play yourself properly
in your role. So the happy family life enormously important.
It's great to hear that everyone's just settled in and
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that's the best thing I'm presuming of it out about
what's happening.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
In the last few weeks.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
Absolutely, for what Ryan has done over the last five weeks. Yes,
and you're dead right. You know the sea has children
running onto the course. You know when he wins it,
you know it's beautiful to see him. You know, it's
the same you know for a Scottis Shepherd for example,
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this little boy coming on there, but the two year
exemption he now has on the tour guarantees start and
all of the majors. No magnificent, but hey, how good
is it? We have Ryan and Lydia representings it on there,
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as your man previously said, Steve Alca out there hear
you're on the European Tour.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, no, awesome, It's all looking pretty good for endless
evenings and mornings watching golf on the TV. Peter thanks
for him much for engaging. Mars writes, Fox is an
absolute champion where he literally is now and he has
been for the last couple of major events, well big
PGA events here anyway. He also goes on to ask
(32:20):
I don't have a Towerbee account, but what's he paying
for a top five finish? It means to be worth
a lazy fifty now bet responsibly, but I'm told that
he's paying seventeen bucks for a top five finish.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Okay. Another text says Fox eat what an.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Awesome example of a great New Zealander, not in a
typical athlete, enormously attractive as far as what embodies are,
cool key, we down to earth.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Nothing artificial, just a good bugger. Love him.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Going back to saying it because he's not changed since
I've been pestering him, zero difference. He's climbed up the
world rankings, he made himself a whole pile of money,
but he's still the guy who wants to rock and
have a bit of a yarn, which is just terrific.
He doesn't publicly put himself above anyone. He doesn't climb
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up his own backside. He doesn't think he's bigger or better.
He just loves playing golf.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
And he's good at it, and that is just tremendous. Neck,
writes Darcy.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I don't want to get political on a sports shoe,
okay sports show. I note you're meaning there, But at
a time we're a celebrating rude success and all that
it means for the game. The Aukland councilor trying to
steal the most popular golf course in the country. They
took a pool golf course for apparently stormwatered attention. It
was gone turning a thousand years a year literally of
(33:49):
nowhere to go.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
It must be stopped.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
What's happening over at Chamberlain Park. They wanted to bite
off half of that place as well. I think I
lie of that was Northwest Motorway traffic because if you've
got an errand drive straight through the window of a car,
which is not idea on the motorway. Yeah, that Neck,
we could do a whole night's talk on the amount
(34:12):
of land that's been chewed up by golf courses in
Auckland and the value it has and who it's owned by.
The de could go all night, so we're not going
to do that. We're going to talk about a cricket instead.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
It's coming up tonight.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
The World Test Championship is up and running. It's at
nine point thirty the South Africans take on Australia and
coming up next we'll talk to a good old maid
of mine from way back.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
When John Norman.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
World Test Championship. The final is on not so far
away to the first ball being bold and we're going
to old friend of the show's back in the radio
sport days is out of Talk Sport. It's a cricket
tragic and he's there. His name is John Norman. John welcome,
great to talk again.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Set the scene. What's ahead of us.
Speaker 11 (35:04):
Well, it's always good to speak to you, Darcy, so
thanks for getting us on. I'll tell you what I
don't know. If you've ever hosted a party, you know
you've you've got all the drinks in, you've got you know,
if you've put all the valuables to one side, hidden
them away. You've got your music system set up. You know,
you've got rid of the cap for the night, someone's
looking after the cat, the kids aren't around, and then
(35:27):
everything's set. The guests are just about to arrive, and
as they arrive, you open the front door and then
you just say, right, I'll leave you to it, and
off you go. And you're essentially host a party that
you're not even invited to yourself. That's kind of how
it feels out here. I was at Lord's on Monday,
and you know what it's like around these ICC events,
all these big world events. You know, there's so much
(35:50):
work that goes into the planning, you know, fixing all
the advertising stuff correctly, getting all the branding up there,
making sure all the press stuff is in place. Everybody's
getting really stressed at the start of a tournament, all
the accreditation stuff, all the drinks are getting carted into
the state. But of course England on playing, so it's
a really weird vibe. So much is happening, so much anticipation,
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but at the end of the day, England, I'm invited.
And to be honest with you, outside those famous walls
at Lord's, there's not a lot of people that are interested, unless,
of course you're of Australian or South African persuasion.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
How many Australians have they managed to drag out of
Earl's Court to turn up? And I suppose the South
Africans are all there as well, aren't they? They are
going to be people there's they been buying with it
tickets being sold or well.
Speaker 11 (36:40):
That's why I just cannot work out. And I won't
know until they get there later on today in a
couple of hours time. So my big boss at Talk Sport,
he's an Aussie. He's actually taking his kids out of school.
He is so excited. In fact, there's a WhatsApp message
for me which I haven't actually read yet from him
this morning. He cannot wait. And he asked me to
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sort his tickets out for him through you know, normal
channels who wasn't on a favor. And when I tried
to get him these ticket it was actually really difficult.
They didn't sell them in one go. They sold them
in like you know stages, it seems, but every time
it was very difficult. I got them. In the end
it wasn't a problem. I'm still in my boss's good books.
But I want to know how many people have actually
(37:21):
are actually going. Have they opened all the all the
ground or you know what they do? Sometimes I see
it at in Wellington for an ODI, they you know,
one stand will be heavily populated and then there'll be
three stands with nobody in it. Is that how it's
going to be at Lord's today. And the thing that
kind of makes me feel that it won't be that
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well populated is of course that there have been World
Test Championships played in this country. But this is the
only country where the World Test Championship final has been played.
And at no point have those games between Australia and
India and New Zealand and India have they been heavily
populated with supporters. The first one was a bit of
an outlier because it was played at the what is
(38:02):
another utility Bowl. I was there last night for the
T twenty. Actually it's impossible to get to that ground
and of course it was terrible weather, but I don't
seem to remember a huge crowd for Australia India. Let's
find out. It'd be great if it was a packed
house as South Africans and Australians. But you know, the
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pound isn't as strong as it used to be. Those
Aussies don't come like they used to be. The tax
deal isn't quite as sweet as it used to be.
The used to go back to Australia after two years
with all the tacks that they didn't have to spend here.
Those rules I think have gone. So I don't know.
I don't know if it's call is quite as populated
with Aussies and safa's as it used to be. So
we'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Well, you can't control that. You can't control the weather.
Tell me it's going to be good. It's spring now,
pretty pretty much summer. Is it going to come to
a party?
Speaker 11 (38:54):
John, Well, actually it does look like it's going to
be okay. Looking out, Oh my god. And now it
doesn't feel very spring like. It feels more like October.
But you know, it always happens, doesn't it. You play
all the county cricket in this country in April and May,
and somehow these days that seems to be the hottest
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months of the year. Soon as the international season kicks
in Dune, the first it just starts raining. That is
exactly what's happening again here. But they do have that
reserve day, don't they. The problem for you guys, of course,
is there's nothing worse than following a Test match overseas
when the rain is coming in and out, and that
just gives you the quandary at two am, do I
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risk it? Do I fall asleep for an hour and
then wake up and then see if it's not raining
or not. It's much better for you just know it's
wipeout and you can just go to sleep, or I
think it's going to be okay and you can watch
it throughout the night.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
For the DMO, we've got the breakdown on Sports Talks.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Disagree John, Normally there is something worse than that. It's
called getting beaten by the English the World Cup final
on a boundary count back. That is the worst thing
ever in cricket. I'll stand by that. However, I am
looking forward to catching up with John in a couple
of weeks time at AKA Finance. Midico says the underarm
delivery was fairly rank as well, granted very very rank.
(40:25):
Surprise you can remember that. There you go video A
looking forward to catching out with John for a beer
organizing this interview. He's like, yeah, he lives about two
mile away from We're going to be staying over in London.
But he said the exchange rates awful right now, so
he's going to buy the first couple because it's so
expensive to buy beer in London.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Great, just what I need to hear.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
So an hour and a half before that match gets underway.
Nothing about you, but I'll be sitting back from an
easy chair. It's not really an easy chair, it's an
old destroyed couch. I'm being perfectly honest. Don't own cats.
If you like furniture, tell you right now and watching
that should be good.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Thanks very much for our list in of an evening.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
More text to read to you around Fox. The difference
between Grant and Ryan Fox is that all of New
Zealand loves Ryan, but Canterbury hated Grant even when he
was playing for the All Blacks. You were feral down there, guys.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
It's true like I was part of that.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
I was part of the great unwashed of the Canterbury
sports fans that were just cruel, cruel to everybody. He
didn't wear red and black in their spare time. If
you've grown up down there and you've lived there, you
know exactly what I'm talking about. If you live in there,
net you know exactly what I'm talking about. You can't
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shake it either. I've been living here wat since Easter
of two thousand. I had my eye surgically put back
an again. I still support reading black mate. I've got
a family up here, my career is based up here.
There's something wrong with me I even get into that.
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I've told the story before, but I'll tell it quickly
now because I can't help myself. Adam Proorg is running
everybody out back in the day playing for the black Caps.
He turned up, walked out Lancaster Park to bat for
the black Caps.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
The whole bank stood up and went yes, no, wait, sorry,
and then just burst into laughter. She's just seen the
look on his face. Yep, feral, You're right and proud
of it.
Speaker 11 (42:42):
An S.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Miller Such thanks from Redcing, Thanks for engaging. I'm Darcy Watergrave.
Catch you tomorrow here on Sports Talk.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be good evening, Welcome into sports door. Great to be here,
looking forward to bringing some sports straight into your living room,
or your car, or the man shed or the woman shed,
for that matter, wherever you might be. He's sitting at
a bus stop. I don't know anymore such as the
(00:32):
spread of radio. My name is Darcy Waldgrave. It is
as good as seven minutes after seven on our Wednesday evenings,
the eleventh of June twenty twenty five lined up for
you in the program tonight, we're gonna get a bit
golf greedy. Initially, we're gonna wallow in the bunkers if
you will. If you can do that, oh, we can
make sand angels and the bunkers. How do you think
(00:54):
they'd like that?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
At the US?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Hoping they wouldn't, thank you very much. Producer and Millisch said,
we're going to I look this morning, I got up
some ungodly hour. Actually it wasn't amount nine o'clock to
talk Ryan Fox, who's had one. How the last few
weeks we talk about all sorts of things. He's he
to fun. He's such a good guy. He's so straight
(01:16):
down the line. The bloke hasn't changed as long as
I've been pestering him for interviews. We're going to talk
to him shortly and then we'll have a quick chat
with Jeff Latch. He's the chief executive officer of New
Zealand Golf. Just talk about the Fox effect and of
course the co effect as well, and how big, how good,
how powerful that.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Has been for New Zealand Golf.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Will take your calls on on on Fox, on Ryan
Fox and his ability to on his ability to appeal
to the masses with who he is and how he is.
Is there another sportsperson out there that is so quintessentially
(02:01):
New Zealand that does so well? What is it about Foxy?
And has he actually driven you to play the game?
I shouldn't say drive, that's a terrible pumpit, but has
he has he had a palpable effect on you, your friend, yourself?
Are you getting out there more? Do your kids want
to go and play the game? How strong is what
Ryan Fox has been doing has been altering your opinions
(02:22):
or guiding your opinions around what you want to play
and what you want to watch and we'll finish things
off of and old Cobbra. Mind that John Norman works
for Talk Sport and we'll go to Lords where he
is lurking waiting for the start of the Cricket Test
World Championship gets underway in about two and a half
hours time. That's our plan, That's what intend to do.
(02:44):
So let's do it Sport today and Sport today, all black.
Caleb Clark is not going to League who the winger
has signed on with NS that are until the end
of twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
No League, No No.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
That was on the back of my mind though again
there was a thing I wanted to take off and
rug the Union that made me want to stay and
so getting to train with those guys, I'll.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Be grateful, real glad I did that because.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I've got to learn so much from a lot of
those guys, especially you know, like the likes of the
Trail Mitchell and Jack White and.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
And still in rugby, the Titanic class between the Blues
and the Crusaders and Fridays Super Rugby Pacific Final won't
feature another titan The immense frame of to might Ty
Williams won't be there. That George Bauer ll be fine,
says coach Rob Penny.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
George has been magnificent for us and you know he's
had an eighty and and a few you know, longer
stints on the park, so we've got no doubt he'll
do a great job. And Curse, as we know, has
done a great job for us when he's needed to,
so hope he is.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Former Proteus superstar Aby Devilliers is confident that South Africa
can beat Australia in the upcoming World Test Championship Final.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
It will not be easy for South Africa, but I
am quitely confident because we go there with quite a
lot of players in formed, a lot of players for
the big hearts that I've got something to prove. I
think it's going to be fantastic. It is the final
after all, and both teams to deserve to be there.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Ab conveniently forgetting that his team has this extraordinary density
to choke in key fixtures. The first balls due at
nine to thirty and the All Whites got beaten this
morning by Ukraine after a victory earlier in the piece
over the Ivory Coast that's in the Canadian Shield Tournament.
Coach Starren Beasley knows that experience against the top teams
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in global football has been of huge benefits.
Speaker 8 (04:42):
We haven't been in enough fights, we haven't been in
enough games like this for our team and our players
to really feel that. In these last two games, I
feel like they've felt the level that's needed.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
And that's sports today.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
He Zee's number one golfer, Ryan Fox, that joins us
now after a phenomenal couple of weeks on the PGA, Ryan,
I got I'll ask, have you spen any time sitting
down and caring and absorbing in what's happened to you
over the last few weeks.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
No, definitely, not at a week off after the PGA,
which kind of let a little bit of myrtle beachkin maybe,
But yeah, the last week, I don't know, I mean,
it was it was crazy, especially the finishes in both playoffs. Yeah,
I don't know if I'll ever quite figure out what happened,
but yeah, it's it's been a life changing month, to
be honest, And that's probably the only way I could
(05:38):
describe it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
In life changing because of where you sit, your position
in the world of golf, because of the money that's
turned up, or the opportunities that have opened for you.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, it's it's more the more the latter part of
that than anything else. I mean, it's it's having some
security over here for a few years now, you know,
getting into some the big events. Obviously I played my
way into two majors in the last month as last
minute Charlie, you know, saying some of the signature events now,
you know, looking really good for the for the playoffs
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this year and into some some big events again for
next year, if iucking you know, Cement being in that
top fifty at the end of the year. So it's yeah,
it's changed everything PG tool wise. It's changed our lives
family immensely. You know, having that security and being able
to make decisions on our future with certainty is you know,
a big change from what it's been the last couple
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of years, that's for sure. So yeah, it's life changing,
as I said, was the best way to describe it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
What about the media, Ryan, I mean, you like your
old man Grant, you love a good yarn, and you're
always very open to talking to the media. But i'd
suggest over the last few weeks a little harder to
deal with. It's getting pretty intense.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, Look, I mean it's it's all I do love
a chat like the old man, and you know the
New Zealand media always fantastic. And you know, I've got
personal personal relationships with a lot of people, including yourself,
which is great. There's certainly been a few extra requests
this week that have come in and you know, a
couple via my manager and he's had to play bad
cop a couple of times, kind of staying foxy. You've
(07:16):
got a major to prepare for, you need to rest,
chill out, and yeah, it's it's been a bit crazy.
Probably the craziest thing is trying to reply to all
the texts and everything else that has come through. Didn't
realize so many people had my phone number, to be honest,
so's it's. Look, they're all good problems to have, to
be honest. It's it can get pretty lonely when things
are going there the wrong way and you're struggling and
(07:38):
no one really thinks about your worries about you. But
you know, when you're getting a bunch of messages and
interview requests and all that stuff, it means you're doing
something right.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Coping tools, Ryan, what have you got in your quiver
to deal with this because the more you advance up
the rankings, the more majors you compete in, the bigger
the pressure is going to be on you. This is
not golf. This is the horsepower up stairs. This is
your heads. What are you seeking in order to deal
(08:09):
with this?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
I've worked with a sports site for a long time
go called Carl Morris, and you know that's more on
the golf course stuff. But I've never really had an
off an issue with the off the golf course stuff,
you know, apart from maybe I've got to be a
bit better at saying no and being being a bit
selfish in a way. And you know, obviously I've got
a young family as well, and I've I've got to
give them a bunch of time, you know, and you know,
(08:32):
not be not be very selfish in that way. So yeah,
it's it's a learning curve, you know. I probably had
a little bit of it a couple of years ago
with that great run I had in Europe and then
winning it went Worth and stuff like that. So there
was a there was a pretty big uptick there, you know,
with with the off course responsibilities and sort of the
(08:54):
newfound fame. I guess a little bit if you want
to put it that way. And I probably didn't realize
how big all of that was until, like I got
home at the end of the year and there was
a whole lot more pressure on my time in that regard.
And I'm sure it's going to be be the same
this year. You know, when I when I eventually get
home at the end of the year, it's I'm going
to get pulled in a bunch of different directions. And
(09:15):
I said, as I said, I've just got to be
a bit better at saying no. And you know, it's
it's just a product of what it is. Like I'm
a I'm a father and a husband first, and I'm
a golf for second. And you know, it's uh, as
I said, they're good problems to have as well, and
I just got to find a nice balance with it.
And you know, if I do have to chat to someone,
I think probably someone in my family's got some pretty
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good experience of how to deal with that kind of
stuff as well, So I can lean on Dad a
little bit there, and yeah, so I'm sure I'll figure
it out going forward.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Family pressure, of course, Ryan is always very present. It's
not just you, it's your wife and your kids, your
direct family. So now knowing what your plan is over
the next two to three years, that must be a
huge source of calm for your entire family.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yeah, it's certainly for my wife more than anyone. It's
it's it's probably causing here a few problems about around
figuring out schooling and what we're going to do with
that kind of stuff. But we can we can make
those decisions with certainty now, as I said, and it's
you know, to have some security out here now for
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for three years. You know, we know we're going to
be based over here, We're going to look at buying
a house in America or all of that stuff that
goes with it. And yeah, there's there's still some tough
decisions to make. But you know a month ago, well,
you know, six weeks ago where you know, I always
kind of know we're on the FedEx Cup and you're going, well,
are we going to be living in the UK? Are
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we're going to be living in America? Are we going
to be back in New Zealand? Like what's going to
happen next year? So it's a whole lot better knowing
you know, the certainty around the golf and that I've
got a job for a while, and you know, that
makes it a whole lot easier to make those decisions,
and you know, can kind of can make an actual
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plan for the next two or three years, which we
certainly couldn't as of six weeks ago. So it's been
huge for the family in that regard. We start becoming
a bit acclimatized to America, getting used to it. You know,
it was it was tough last year traveling around all
over the place and having a basis year has been great.
And you know, kids love Florida. It's warm, they get
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to go for a swim every day when we're home.
It's you know, we've got some friends there. Now it's
you know, I wouldn't say it's starting to feel like home,
but you know, it's it's starting to feel a little
less like a foreign country at least.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Nothing like a home away from home. Mate, let's talk
about Marcus Wheelhouse. So here's your coach. He's turned up
a week before your first PG victory, and he did
it again a week before your last PG victory. So
plainly he's been instrumental in your rise and rise in
what you're doing out there on the track.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Yeah, it's some I think Wheely came up.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Obviously.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I've seen Weely at home a lot, and I haven't
been home this year since February. And you know, Marc
has stopped traveling a couple of years ago through COVID,
and we decided this year that you know, he was
up for traveling a bit more. And it's it's obviously worked.
You know, he came up in Dallas the week before
Myrtle Beach with probably a much more positive attitude about
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where my golf game was than where.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Where I thought it was.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
You know, I kind of felt like it was close,
but I was getting frustrated with it, with with things
a bit too much, and you know, we worked on
a couple of things. It was definitely a couple of
things to tweak and get right. But you know, Wheely
Weely came in and we found it really quickly earlier
in the week. And you know, I was pretty tough
on myself that week of Dallas and was a bit
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but frustrated at my golf game, and you know, he's like, mate,
we're there, we're there, just be patient, it's going to come.
And I didn't quite think it was going to come
straight away, but it did. And then it came up
from Memorial and that was a really solid week. I
you know, I had I was two shots away, you know,
from a top end that week, and you know, it
felt like I played really solid. And then you know,
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obviously we did some we carried on that good work
we've done a few weeks earlier, and then you know,
last week happened and I played really good. It hit
some amazing shots down the stretch and pretty decent one
in the playoffs as well. So it was, Yeah, it's
it's it's been it's been good having him up and
he's coming up for Scottish in the Open, so I
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certainly hope it works the same way again.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
You've played what you've described as the best golf shot
of your career that's set up your victory last week.
It was an astonishing shot. I looked to that and
also the chip to win as well a couple of
weeks earlier, and wonder how much of your internal confidence
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has bubbled to the top which allows you to make
decisions like that and play shots like that. It's a
huge amount of bravery behind that, Ryan.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah, I mean I think the one on Sunday, the
three what over the water, There was definitely some bravery
in that, and you know, I feel like I'm something
at good. I could see the shot pretty easy. It
makes it easy to pull the trigger on that shot.
I'd say the Chippin, you know, in terms of hardness
of shot wasn't wasn't a tricky shot. But obviously to
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Chippin under the circumstances is pretty incredible. But you know
that that one on eighteen three over over water from
two hundred and whatever meters it was to to sex foot,
it's going to be pretty hard to beat for me
going forward. You know, there's there's no luck involved in
that one. That's you know, that's just getting up and
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sucking it up and hitting a really good shot and
to do it under that that pressure, and you know,
in the end it was obviously to win the tournament
that it was, yeah, as pretty sweet and one I
certainly won't forget.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I'd say you could have drained that part and one
as well, but maybe that thought went through your head
and you were nice and careful because you did have
two shots to win.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
One hundred percent. You know, it's just don't do anything silly.
I didn't want to hit it. I obviously didn't want
to give myself any work coming back. I probably gave
myself six inches more than I really wanted to with
that part I had to market.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
But you know, I definitely wasn't worried about the next one.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
But yeah, look it was just get it down there,
don't do anything silly, and you know, don't get like
a high side lip out and have three foot coming back,
because then you look really silly.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I don't want to put the mircros on you, But
are you aware that you've got the third best major
cut making streak at the moment behind Chefle and Choffley, Like,
you've gone nine consecutive cuts now through majors.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Did you know that I knew made a lot in
a row.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
I think in twenty three and twenty four I made
all the major cuts in a row, which was pretty sweet,
and made the PGA. So yeah, it's a pretty good
streak to have. I'd like to have finished a bit
higher and a couple of the ones I've played, but yeah,
got there. I like hard golf, and this week's going
to be about as hard as it gets. Hopefully you
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haven't put the commentators curse on me there or anything,
and I missed the cut this week. But look, yeah,
just go out and see what happens. My prep's going
to be relatively limited after last week, just trying to
recover and get to Thursday will ce energy again. But
obviously I'm playing well as well, so I kind of
got nothing to lose this week. Go out and give
it a crack and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
You better make the cut, bro, I couldn't carry that
for the rest of my career, knowing that I've cursed you.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Ryan.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Just finishing up, You've noticeably lost weight. You're looking very
very trim out there on the track. Took us through that.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, look, this year's I had a big push at
the end of last year, to be honest, you know,
with a hip and drew last year, and I was
really struggling golf swing wise, and it affected me a
lot more than I thought it was. It wasn't really painful,
it was just I couldn't move it properly, and I
basically got told, you need to sort yourself out or
you're staring down the bowl of surgery.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
So it's obviously a bit of you to make a
change when you've got a.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Gun point into your head like that, And yeah, look,
I've tried my best to carry it on this year.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
It's hard to keep up with the gym stuff.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
During during tournament weeks, especially when you played a bunch
in a role when you know, after a week late
last week, I've I wouldn't want to think about going
to the gym this week. Could just kind of chill out.
But you know, trying to do things a little bit better,
it's kind of hard in America.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
I do like my food they do.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
They generally do the fatty, sugary, good kind of foods
pretty well over here.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
So yeah, there's been there.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
There's been a couple of week moments, but you know,
for the most part, I'm trying to do a little
bit better. And obviously it's it's helped out on the
golf course this year massively.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Awon take much more of your time. But tweety years
since Michael Campbell did what Michael Campbell did at Pinehurst
in the US Open, it's kind of a nice parallel
moving into this twenty year anniversary.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Yeah, look, obviously would love to replicate Cambo. It's I
remember vividly watching that event twenty years ago, and I
certainly love to do the same thing as what he did.
You know, I think it felt like the whole of
New Zealand stopped on that Monday morning, And yeah, if
I could do the same this year, it'd be great.
But there's also one hundred and fifty other guys in
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the field that are pretty damn good at golf trying
to do the same thing. So yeah, I'll be trying hard,
and yeah, I also be trying not to get beaten
up by Oakmont this week. It is probably the hardest
golf course I've ever played, and I've only played nine
holes so far, so looking forward to seeing what the
back nine shows up tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
So have you talked to him?
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I got a message from Cambo after Canada, and he's
doing well from what I understand, and you know, playing
a bit of senior golf again, which is great to see.
You know, he retired relatively early there and I think
he was, you know, having some golf swing troubles and
it's great to see him back playing and enjoying golf again.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
And you know, I'd love to catch up with him
with some stage down line.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
That's he's He's helped me out a little bit of
my career, give me some some short game lessons and
a bit of been lucky enough to sit down and
have a chat with him a few times about how
we dealt with some pressure and stuff like that. So yeah,
I'd love to sit down and share a glass of
red wine with him and have a bit of a yarn.
He's he's great like that.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
We get the riffs call.
Speaker 9 (19:43):
You make a call on.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Sports Talking on your home of Sports Talks.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Seven twenty five. Jeff Latch is going to join us
Nancy cel Via Indied Golf talking about the Fox effected.
I'd like your thoughts to eighty.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
How much is Ryan.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Fox's success over the last few years more important in
the last few weeks driven you back to your golf
clubs again. Has it had a palpable effect and you're
engagement in the game. We'll find out after we talk
to Jeff Fletch coming up next, it's seven twenty six.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
You hear it from the biggest names and sports men.
Have your say on eighty Sports Talk or more on
your home of Sports News Talks.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
It be seven twenty nine Sports Talking out on News Talks.
It'd be Ryan Fox joining us for a year and
before top bloke, no change, not one bet or there's
just lost a few pounds, but that's because the doctor
held the gun to his head. Are We're going to
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be joined shortly by Jeff Flatt's CEO of in Z
Golf around the effect. But I've got call sung out,
take them, get out of Bruce, Darcy.
Speaker 10 (21:12):
Here you going. I just had to say the day
that the box he won the the Canadian Golf even
the brother he's a book player, so he was rained
off and order. I'm a bit light on work at
the prison. So so anyhow we should have up for
a game of golf and that was fun. But you
got to say, you know, it's his attitude. He's so
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bloody refreshing to the game of golf.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
He gets it.
Speaker 10 (21:35):
Yeah, like chooses club and away he goes, and yeah,
fantastic fast. Good for the game and.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
To him, because it's a key with you that represents
as out there. I don't think is any ears or
grace is about what he does or who he is.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
He just gets hold of his.
Speaker 10 (21:52):
Business exactly exactly Darcy, and you know it's good for
the game of golf. He's got. He deserves a messive following.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
He's got for it all.
Speaker 11 (22:04):
Ye, that's a key.
Speaker 10 (22:07):
We've been cock, you've been. Fox is now very rue, refreshing, fantastic.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, yeah, Bruce, thanks very much for calling through. I
think a lot of people can buy into that. Didn't
you get up and go and play golf? After you
did that on Monday?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Off to the golf course? Eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
How influential has Ryan Fox been? Not necessarily for you
in taking the game of golf up, but with your family,
with your children, the inspiration behind what they want to do,
because they need heroes and this guy is a hero
and he's very down to worth, He's very us and
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I think that drives a lot of people to the game.
We're joined now by Jeff Latch He's the CEO of
golf end Z. We talk about Ryan Fox and what
he's done. Welcome to the program, Jeff, are always.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Good to have you on.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
So how influential has has Ryan Fox being for his
own golf?
Speaker 12 (23:08):
The impact that Foxy has on the game of golf
in New Zealand is immense and it's overwhelmingly positive. And
I think probably the key thing that we see is
we see the impact that it has on kids picking
a golf club up and wanting to have a hit.
And if you look at our junior membership number over
the last twelve months, they're extraordinary. They've grown by over
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twenty five percent year on year, and so that's a
massive increase and our research shows that major drivers of
that are the performance of people like Foxy and Lydia
on the global stage. These are the people that inspire
kids to pick up a golf club and have a hit.
We can't overemphasize how important it is and what a
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boon it's been to New Zealand golf.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I think of the case of Lydia, especially Ryan, they
understand that and they contribute to that willingly and knowingly.
They like the fact they're bringing kids into the game.
They like the fact that people look up to them
and they're not shining.
Speaker 12 (24:06):
For Look, they're both terrific Kiwis, they're just terrific individuals
and they're really keen and conscious about wanting to give
back to the game of golf. And therefore, I mean,
look at the work that Ryan's done over the last
few days. I mean, we know he's trying to prepare
for the US Open. But how many interviews has he
done over the last three to four days. I mean,
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he's just been remarkable all at the same time while
he's trying to get.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Ready to play in one of the four majors.
Speaker 12 (24:32):
Yeah, I think Ryan and Lydia both are just amazing
examples of people that really care passionately about the sport,
want to give back and want to encourage other people
to take up the game that they love.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
So your stats back that up.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You've actually done research that says, yes, I'm following this
guy and this is why I've picked clubs up me.
Speaker 12 (24:52):
How accurate is there, Well, it's as accurate, I think
as any research can be, because there's always a range
of factors behind people starting to play the game of
golf or indeed any other sport. Family are really important,
Friends are really important also. I think with kids, it's
a lot of it is about inspiration from seeing people
on the global stage do well. I mean, look at
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the interviews that Ryan's done.
Speaker 11 (25:15):
I love the one that was on.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Here the other night.
Speaker 12 (25:18):
Were actually at the kids playing.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
In the bunker.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
I mean it was just awesome.
Speaker 12 (25:22):
We're how often do you see that and how good
is that for the game of golf, to show that
it's actually something that embraces everyone. It's for families, it's
not just for the players. It's things like that that
actually help out as well. They're really valuable.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I've been pestering Ryan Fox for I don't know how long.
He's not changed. He's always been available. He loves a
good yarn, and you mentioned before the key he's a
quintessential Kiwi on the world stage. I've seen no adjustment
and I don't think anything's going to change. You might
pick up a hatful of ages, makes no difference Ryan Fox.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
It's Ryan Fox.
Speaker 12 (25:57):
Yeah, And I think that's why he's so loved in
New Zealand and he has such fantastic support in New Zealand.
But equally he's got a terrific computation internationally within golf
circles as well. Like everyone likes Ryan and you see
it when he's wandering down the fairways. He's there, he's
having a yarn. He's actually he gets on well with
virtually everyone. He's a great guy. I mean, I can't
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think of a better ambassador for our sport. He's just
a quintessential down to earth Kiwi guy doing really well
on the world stage, immensely talented, but incredibly humble and
modest with it. He's a great guy.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
He's been very helpful. How much have you been behind
using his name, his brand and what he's achieved so
far to push New Zealand golf? Are you active in
that space?
Speaker 12 (26:45):
Jeff, No, We don't use anyone's brand without their approval,
right and so, and I think all players, Ryan included
Lydia et cetera quite rightly or really conscious of making
sure that their names are only used in the right way.
And so we haven't actively gone out and used Ryan's
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name or Lydias nor any of our other terrific golfers
at the moment, because I think that's the other part
of the story. I mean, we're all quite rightly celebrating
Ryan's achievements at the moment, and lydia is a few
months ago which were extraordinary as well.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
But it's not just two people.
Speaker 12 (27:22):
Now we've got Steve Elka on the Champions Tour, You've
got Dan Hillier, We've got Ben Campbell, Kazuma for Jonas
us now on the LPGA Tour as well.
Speaker 11 (27:33):
So we've got two players.
Speaker 12 (27:35):
We've got all these players that are actually coming through
at the moment that are doing well on the world
stage in golf, and that's wonderful. I mean, the sport
is in really good health. It's terrific.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
The right call is your call on eight hundred eighty
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Speaker 2 (27:56):
It's Jeff Lat's, the CEO of n Z Golf, talking
about the co the Fox Effect. Eight hundred and eighty
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How influential has Fox been with your golf, your kid's golf,
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your family's golf. What makes them so appealing?
Speaker 11 (28:24):
Now?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I know what makes them so appealing, but I want
you to tell me what makes them so appealing? Quite
a few texts coming in about the appeal of Grant Fox,
Ryan Fox and that and that.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Was a mistake.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
I think you could probably say that Ryan's now eclipsing
is old man on the.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Global sporting stage. I just found out. Oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty lines are open. This is News
Talk ZB. What makes them so relatable?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Seven forty Sports Talk on News Talk ZBB.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Why is he so relatable?
Speaker 5 (29:07):
What is it with Ryan Fox?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
We all know, I know some divoice that change your attitude?
Does it make you feel like you can go there
and swing our club? What you after that approach? The
final playoff whole No, because it was freak show stuff.
But what happens when you dedicate yourself to it?
Speaker 10 (29:24):
A Peter.
Speaker 9 (29:27):
Dead right, Darcy and hey what if brilliant going to do?
But Ryan is just yeah, as you say, is a
very humble man. And you know from the family with
Grant obviously the All Black and his grandfather played played
for News on a cricket team. But one scenario a
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lot do you just put forward to you? Twenty twenty
eight Los Angeles Olympics, both introduce appears tournament thirty six
holes male female? Can you imagine Ryan and Lidia together?
You not Scottie and Lilly?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
That that's the best prediction. I love that, Peter. I
want that to happen. The absolutely awesome it would, and
we'll see how Ryan progresses. I think the big thing,
big takeaway from me out of that chat is that
the comfortable place he finds himself in outside of golf
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and what that's going to do for his headspace over
the next few years. He talked of how comfortable his.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Wife is now. I know where the kids are going
to go to school.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I've got a house, I've got a base, And anyone
knows you're a partnership, husband, wife, whatever. If the other
side of the partnership isn't working and they're distressed or whatever,
you're not going to be able to play yourself properly
in your role. So the happy family life enormously important.
It's great to hear that everyone's just settled in and
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that's the best thing I'm presuming of it out about
what's happening.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
In the last few weeks.
Speaker 9 (31:10):
Absolutely, for what Ryan has done over the last five weeks. Yes,
and you're dead right. You know the sea has children
running onto the course. You know when he wins it,
you know it's beautiful to see him. You know, it's
the same you know for a Scottis Shepherd for example,
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this little boy coming on there, but the two year
exemption he now has on the tour guarantees start and
all of the majors. No magnificent, but hey, how good
is it? We have Ryan and Lydia representings it on there,
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as your man previously said, Steve Alca out there hear
you're on the European Tour.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, no, awesome, It's all looking pretty good for endless
evenings and mornings watching golf on the TV. Peter thanks
for him much for engaging. Mars writes, Fox is an
absolute champion where he literally is now and he has
been for the last couple of major events, well big
PGA events here anyway. He also goes on to ask
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I don't have a Towerbee account, but what's he paying
for a top five finish? It means to be worth
a lazy fifty now bet responsibly, but I'm told that
he's paying seventeen bucks for a top five finish.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Okay. Another text says Fox eat what an.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Awesome example of a great New Zealander, not in a
typical athlete, enormously attractive as far as what embodies are,
cool key, we down to earth.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Nothing artificial, just a good bugger. Love him.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Going back to saying it because he's not changed since
I've been pestering him, zero difference. He's climbed up the
world rankings, he made himself a whole pile of money,
but he's still the guy who wants to rock and
have a bit of a yarn, which is just terrific.
He doesn't publicly put himself above anyone. He doesn't climb
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up his own backside. He doesn't think he's bigger or better.
He just loves playing golf.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
And he's good at it, and that is just tremendous. Neck,
writes Darcy.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I don't want to get political on a sports shoe,
okay sports show. I note you're meaning there, But at
a time we're a celebrating rude success and all that
it means for the game. The Aukland councilor trying to
steal the most popular golf course in the country. They
took a pool golf course for apparently stormwatered attention. It
was gone turning a thousand years a year literally of
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nowhere to go.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
It must be stopped.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
What's happening over at Chamberlain Park. They wanted to bite
off half of that place as well. I think I
lie of that was Northwest Motorway traffic because if you've
got an errand drive straight through the window of a car,
which is not idea on the motorway. Yeah, that Neck,
we could do a whole night's talk on the amount
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of land that's been chewed up by golf courses in
Auckland and the value it has and who it's owned by.
The de could go all night, so we're not going
to do that. We're going to talk about a cricket instead.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
It's coming up tonight.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
The World Test Championship is up and running. It's at
nine point thirty the South Africans take on Australia and
coming up next we'll talk to a good old maid
of mine from way back.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
When John Norman.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
World Test Championship. The final is on not so far
away to the first ball being bold and we're going
to old friend of the show's back in the radio
sport days is out of Talk Sport. It's a cricket
tragic and he's there. His name is John Norman. John welcome,
great to talk again.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Set the scene. What's ahead of us.
Speaker 11 (35:04):
Well, it's always good to speak to you, Darcy, so
thanks for getting us on. I'll tell you what I
don't know. If you've ever hosted a party, you know
you've you've got all the drinks in, you've got you know,
if you've put all the valuables to one side, hidden
them away. You've got your music system set up. You know,
you've got rid of the cap for the night, someone's
looking after the cat, the kids aren't around, and then
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everything's set. The guests are just about to arrive, and
as they arrive, you open the front door and then
you just say, right, I'll leave you to it, and
off you go. And you're essentially host a party that
you're not even invited to yourself. That's kind of how
it feels out here. I was at Lord's on Monday,
and you know what it's like around these ICC events,
all these big world events. You know, there's so much
(35:50):
work that goes into the planning, you know, fixing all
the advertising stuff correctly, getting all the branding up there,
making sure all the press stuff is in place. Everybody's
getting really stressed at the start of a tournament, all
the accreditation stuff, all the drinks are getting carted into
the state. But of course England on playing, so it's
a really weird vibe. So much is happening, so much anticipation,
(36:14):
but at the end of the day, England, I'm invited.
And to be honest with you, outside those famous walls
at Lord's, there's not a lot of people that are interested, unless,
of course you're of Australian or South African persuasion.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
How many Australians have they managed to drag out of
Earl's Court to turn up? And I suppose the South
Africans are all there as well, aren't they? They are
going to be people there's they been buying with it
tickets being sold or well.
Speaker 11 (36:40):
That's why I just cannot work out. And I won't
know until they get there later on today in a
couple of hours time. So my big boss at Talk Sport,
he's an Aussie. He's actually taking his kids out of school.
He is so excited. In fact, there's a WhatsApp message
for me which I haven't actually read yet from him
this morning. He cannot wait. And he asked me to
(37:00):
sort his tickets out for him through you know, normal
channels who wasn't on a favor. And when I tried
to get him these ticket it was actually really difficult.
They didn't sell them in one go. They sold them
in like you know stages, it seems, but every time
it was very difficult. I got them. In the end
it wasn't a problem. I'm still in my boss's good books.
But I want to know how many people have actually
(37:21):
are actually going. Have they opened all the all the
ground or you know what they do? Sometimes I see
it at in Wellington for an ODI, they you know,
one stand will be heavily populated and then there'll be
three stands with nobody in it. Is that how it's
going to be at Lord's today. And the thing that
kind of makes me feel that it won't be that
(37:41):
well populated is of course that there have been World
Test Championships played in this country. But this is the
only country where the World Test Championship final has been played.
And at no point have those games between Australia and
India and New Zealand and India have they been heavily
populated with supporters. The first one was a bit of
an outlier because it was played at the what is
(38:02):
another utility Bowl. I was there last night for the
T twenty. Actually it's impossible to get to that ground
and of course it was terrible weather, but I don't
seem to remember a huge crowd for Australia India. Let's
find out. It'd be great if it was a packed
house as South Africans and Australians. But you know, the
(38:23):
pound isn't as strong as it used to be. Those
Aussies don't come like they used to be. The tax
deal isn't quite as sweet as it used to be.
The used to go back to Australia after two years
with all the tacks that they didn't have to spend here.
Those rules I think have gone. So I don't know.
I don't know if it's call is quite as populated
with Aussies and safa's as it used to be. So
we'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Well, you can't control that. You can't control the weather.
Tell me it's going to be good. It's spring now,
pretty pretty much summer. Is it going to come to
a party?
Speaker 11 (38:54):
John, Well, actually it does look like it's going to
be okay. Looking out, Oh my god. And now it
doesn't feel very spring like. It feels more like October.
But you know, it always happens, doesn't it. You play
all the county cricket in this country in April and May,
and somehow these days that seems to be the hottest
(39:15):
months of the year. Soon as the international season kicks
in Dune, the first it just starts raining. That is
exactly what's happening again here. But they do have that
reserve day, don't they. The problem for you guys, of course,
is there's nothing worse than following a Test match overseas
when the rain is coming in and out, and that
just gives you the quandary at two am, do I
(39:37):
risk it? Do I fall asleep for an hour and
then wake up and then see if it's not raining
or not. It's much better for you just know it's
wipeout and you can just go to sleep, or I
think it's going to be okay and you can watch
it throughout the night.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
For the DMO, we've got the breakdown on Sports Talks.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Disagree John, Normally there is something worse than that. It's
called getting beaten by the English the World Cup final
on a boundary count back. That is the worst thing
ever in cricket. I'll stand by that. However, I am
looking forward to catching up with John in a couple
of weeks time at AKA Finance. Midico says the underarm
delivery was fairly rank as well, granted very very rank.
(40:25):
Surprise you can remember that. There you go video A
looking forward to catching out with John for a beer
organizing this interview. He's like, yeah, he lives about two
mile away from We're going to be staying over in London.
But he said the exchange rates awful right now, so
he's going to buy the first couple because it's so
expensive to buy beer in London.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Great, just what I need to hear.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
So an hour and a half before that match gets underway.
Nothing about you, but I'll be sitting back from an
easy chair. It's not really an easy chair, it's an
old destroyed couch. I'm being perfectly honest. Don't own cats.
If you like furniture, tell you right now and watching
that should be good.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Thanks very much for our list in of an evening.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
More text to read to you around Fox. The difference
between Grant and Ryan Fox is that all of New
Zealand loves Ryan, but Canterbury hated Grant even when he
was playing for the All Blacks. You were feral down there, guys.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
It's true like I was part of that.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
I was part of the great unwashed of the Canterbury
sports fans that were just cruel, cruel to everybody. He
didn't wear red and black in their spare time. If
you've grown up down there and you've lived there, you
know exactly what I'm talking about. If you live in there,
net you know exactly what I'm talking about. You can't
(41:54):
shake it either. I've been living here wat since Easter
of two thousand. I had my eye surgically put back
an again. I still support reading black mate. I've got
a family up here, my career is based up here.
There's something wrong with me I even get into that.
(42:14):
I've told the story before, but I'll tell it quickly
now because I can't help myself. Adam Proorg is running
everybody out back in the day playing for the black Caps.
He turned up, walked out Lancaster Park to bat for
the black Caps.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
The whole bank stood up and went yes, no, wait, sorry,
and then just burst into laughter. She's just seen the
look on his face. Yep, feral, You're right and proud
of it.
Speaker 11 (42:42):
An S.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Miller Such thanks from Redcing, Thanks for engaging. I'm Darcy Watergrave.
Catch you tomorrow here on Sports Talk.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
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