June 27, 2025 • 42 mins
D'Arcy Waldegrave returned to wrap another day of sports news! Highlights for tonight include:
Pita Alatini - Former All Black on the future of Moana Pasifika
Ish Sodhi - On chasing his dream for a central contract
Avan Lee - Hurricanes CEO on their fundraising efforts for Mereana Pearce
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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with the Hurricanes Super rugby team CEO mister Evan Lee.
Hurricanes are looking for donations. They've got an auction running
on trade Me. One of their widest squad players partners
has been diagnosed with a very rare, very aggressive cancer.
We will talk to Avonlea about the Hurricanes' involvement, what
(01:18):
they have to do, and how you can bid to
alleviate the stress and the pressure on this wonderful young couple.
Before that, East Sody joins us a Black Caps Tea
twenty spin it super nice bloke. Love talking with e
Shit Sody. He's been selected for the South African Zimbabwe
T twenty series. The oddity here is he it doesn't
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have a central contract, right, he missed out a couple
of months or a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
How long ago was that?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Andrew Duffas a while ago anyway, so he missed out,
but he still got packed. And in fact, there's a
couple of players who didn't want central contracts have also
been picked for this side, but each is an odd
one because he wanted a contract, he didn't get one,
but they still wanted him to play. So East joins
us to discuss that and we're going to kick things
(02:07):
off shortly with a better Alatini form. All Black of
course a massive advocate for Pacific rugby looking at the
future of Moana PACIFICA with the financial situation primarily not
about the details and not getting into the weeds around
what happened financially, because that is still rather messy and
(02:29):
I'm sure financial mind are the larger than ours will
climb on into that if you want to have a
we look at that. You can read Gregor Paul's piece
and he's on Herald dot co dot nz. He has
a good dig around, good financial journalist and background and
mister Gregor Paul, Peter and I want to discuss the
effect that's going to have on the wider Pacifica community
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in the pathways that Mwana Pacifica was starting to provide.
What kind of a body blow is this and we'd
like your thoughts on that as well. It's been a
slow burn, but it's got there. People are turning up,
people are watching. UB's got some backing the field goods
out there and it might grind to a halt before
(03:13):
twenty twenty six. So we'll talk about that with Peter Alertini,
but likely normally do because I'm a creature of habit.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
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which is great. The awareness around soldierp has grown exponentially
over the last seasons.
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the black Caps. The brutal middle order ball slayer is in.
Devin Conway is out. But it's not a direct swap.
It's not a direct They're different players, Okay either way.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
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seen at the moment is trying to finish off often innings,
and I guess I'm just going to try and get
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Speaker 2 (04:53):
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Speaker 8 (05:30):
One thing I know is it's going to be close here.
It's always very close and this year in general it's
been extremely close, so I expect it to be even
more so this weekend, just because it's a short lat
and it's been that kind of season.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
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Speaker 1 (05:45):
Sport today.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Right, Let's move on now to talk it's not a
great story is that we've had a couple of pretty
horrid stories this week in the wonderful wide world of sport.
This is all around Mwana PACIFICA and the dire financial
straits they reportedly have found themselves in. So if it
were to collapse, well, and we'll see I'm talking about
(06:09):
that now with from All Black and All Round GC.
He's a huge advocate of Pacific Rugby. Peter Alertini, welcome
to the program.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Good evening, good even he does or is the pleasure
my man?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Great to be chatting again, But maybe not under the
best of circumstances, with the possibility that Mowana Pacifica, after
causing up a big ruckust this year and what they've done,
might not be around next to you through the financial
difficulties that they are experiencing. What kind of a body
blow is that to Pacifica rugby players and fans here
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in Auckland City.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Oh this is huge as we saw the momentum or moon,
but I should say that was carried this year through
taller AND's awesome coaching group and then obviously led by
Ardi and the crew. The way the people that had
really attached and kind of followed the group this year
had come a long way. You know, it'd come a
long way from from the early beginning to where it is.
(07:07):
And I suppose the team this year really visions what
everyone was wanting as Pasilica people wanting to follow as such.
So it will be a huge blow for not only
like the teams South, but also for pathways for young
buzzifaker kids coming through and grassroots. As we know, the
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percentage is a huge amongst all grades and all levels
and rugby, whether it's grassroots up to the top and
super rugby for players to have this opportunity, but it is,
it is really, it's definitely a tough time at the
moment to really see them going through this knowing that,
especially the success that they've had this year.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You look at the blow as well to tongue and
rugby to someone on rugby and how that affects them
because basically, as you see, they're a pathway helps channel
the best talent. I know that the All Blacks, they're
allowed to capital them and the team and maybe a
few of them might get penched and neck to go
somewhere else. That'd so be it. But when you look
at the Islands and what they have gained out of
(08:09):
this so far, this is again, this is a poke
in the eye, isn't it. Oh?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
For sure, look look at young Miracle Felung, you right,
the boy that was based in someone who's come through
and now is a unbelievable form this year, and and
what a great story of that is. But for guys
like himself and these many more back in the islands
that should moan to not go through, then you know,
pathways for those guys and back of the islands, like
you mentioned, does disappear. And and and it is like,
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you know, we're trying to grow not the participation but
around the competitiveness around our Pacific island nations in these competitions.
But if we haven't got the super rugby team to
to really have these kids playing at a top level competitively,
we can weak out. Then it is a huge blow
for for the island ass of of the Pacific. So
(08:59):
you know, look, it's it's it's definitely you know, hidden
fear people hard. And I know that you know some
of the young players coming up who really enjoyed this
year and what was presented. I suppose throughout the competition,
as you know you sent, some people are feeling up
tied and then waiting for what the actual movements are
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going forward.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
It was a slow burned fan wise, and I think
most of us were quite shocked. I'm sure you were too,
Peter Alertini. When suddenly they started filling up North Harbor
Stadium for Moana Pasivika. I mean no one predicted that,
but slowly but surely people brought it. People climbed on
board and suddenly that and as you mentioned before, there
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was a movement, there was momentum in that to stop that. Now.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Ouch, It's look, I was there, like i've I've been
in and out of the group, just going to support
and to see it from what it was last year.
I remember going to the game and Mount Smart there
was more people in the Bloomin hospitality area then there
was outside watching it stadium. But to see it and
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then and funny enough to go all the way to
North Harbor to get that movement. But everyone had brought
in and I really do you know, you know the
fact that the coaching group that they had this year,
Orlando joining in was already with Tom Commentary and Tana Polias,
and that they really did really capture I suppose what
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was required. And then you know, everyone knows the art
effect that he had coming in, but also how much
of a level that he lifted for everyone else that
was in the camp. You know, guys players like Pale
GREENI and all these kids that just absolutely two poor.
There was a number eight. You know, there was just
so much I suppose so many good things. I suppose
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that they're our Busfiker people were wanting to see, especially
in Super Rugby and for most most of them beating
you know, for the team to have the record they
had and beating all the Super franchise by the Chiefs
of Seek. But having those great ones created that momentum
and movement and then you know, like you said, it
had to be at north Shore Stadium, but even the
South Africans brought into it having those brand warnings for
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the boys. So everything was going accordingly as such, and
it would again like you mentioned, it would be a
huge blow if it disappears next year.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, if it does. Like I don't know the financial
details because by the looks of it, it's a little
on the murky side. There are people maybe in possessions
that they shouldn't possibly being with conflicts of interest. I
don't know how that evolves. We do know that World
Rugby are taking some money away, Jersey sponsors have gone.
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How far do you think ends are or anybody need
to climb into actually rescue this. Is it throwing money
after bad any Is there a point in doing this?
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Is it needed? Should the funding be there?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, Look, it's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
And you know, like.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
And that's always been the battle form wine up being
based here and in New Zealand and and you know, yes,
the players there's a lot of players from here that
do go through. But it's a tough one for me
to answer in that space because I don't know whether
it is in the Rugby's responsibility. I feel there's you
know with World Rugby because it is a good thing,
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you know, like you know, where where do they stand
and kind of helping these this franchise out And and
it's always i think I've spoken about it in different shows.
It's it's really needed a huge contributor from outside of
this and and and that's it's always going to be
the problem in trying to create something within here and
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within these Zealand as well, because it's limited, as we
know in it's limited, and what you see around in
the products of rugby, you know, without NPC and in
different revenues that are coming through. It is a struggle
here within our little country soul in terms of answer
to to really we do need outside back it to
really come through and bank on this. For one, I
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can because as we've seen with the momentum, and also
you know with A players such as as Noney, I'm
up here coming in like the excitement is still still
building it to the as, yes, they've lost the team,
but I'm pretty sure they have a plan around that,
and so it'll be, it'll be it will be detrimental
to to the to the pusificer people not having this
team this year.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, I think the Noney is going to be quite
something else to watch. We all remember what he is
capable of. Look I from what I can gather, Peter,
and thanks so much for joining us. If there is
a responsibility four or two Pacific rugby, it's got to
be World rugby New Zealand rugby. They're not rich, they
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haven't got at all. I know they do well out
of PACIFICA players of course, but they come to New Zealand,
they get trained, they go through the system so they
can peck them. But maybe world rugby they've got a
look to how many PACIFICA players are playing over in
club competitions and its Garrison, France and England and Wales.
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They're a source of enormous entertainment and some fantastically talented players.
They're good for the global game, mate.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Absolutely and it's always been our l plea and it's
you know, I think it's especially with this organization, with
they've proven how far they've come, they've proven this year,
they've got the people in the council work that they
could go through. It will be something really for Ward
Rugby to really bank on because, like you said, these
players all across the world, buzzfigure players that are fulfilling
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into not only clubs with them, but even in countries
in the Northern Hemisphere. So it will be a good
kind of you know to really look at it from
from a world right be point of view, to really
bank on this team because I feel like it's the
start of something that will just grow and be and
be seng of for our game global.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Forget the riffs call, you make the call on sports
Talk on your home of Sports News talks.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Be and that's happened al teeny talking about the effect
that has been the effect that Mwana Pacifiker has had
on the South Pacific community here in Auckland, why it
needs to stick around, why it needs to stay. But
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at text in saying Darcy was in charge of their finances,
I don't know and we're going to find that out.
That is all under investigation. It sounds pretty shonky, doesn't it.
Money funneled from the government agency through a agency designed
(15:47):
to help with specific health who then of course own
Mawana and then some of that gets moved through to
help them and we don't know what the exact details are,
but it will be looked at, it will be under
the microscope as it should be. But aside that, the
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bigger thing for me, and this is what don't want
to hear from you. I don't need a forensic accountant
ring me up telling me what's going on, because no
one knows and tells me what effect will the loss
And for all intense purposes, most people are writing this
team off. This ain't ain't gonna happen. What I feel
the loss of this have on the Pacific rugby community
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here in Auckland, that's one thread. You may be part
of that. You may be part of the late uprising
of fans that had actually turned up and started watching
this team. It was a slow start. Fascinatingly, they actually
managed to get some traction North Harbor of all places,
(16:53):
Adi Savilla, I'm sure I helped as well with what
he brought to the party. But they're finally getting traction,
and as you've just heard Peter saying, that is a
pathway there. There's a place that young pacificer can look
to and go, hey, this may be my entry and
I might be able to get toward All Black Rugby.
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Ideally it goes to Tongulin or Samo and Rugby, but
it's open for all. What kind of effect is this
going to have on you as a fan base, knowing
it's not going to be there? What effect does this
have on your friends and Fano who are playing he
might want to get there? And the other question who's
responsible for this mess? Like who should actually be climbing
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in and bailing them out.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Injured?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I have skin in the game and they're putting money
in and they've run out of sponsors Jersey sponsors in
the like right difficult? Who needs to come in and
clean this up? It'd be really nice if there was
a multi billionaire investor out there actually came in and
wrote them a fat check so they could carry on
doing what they're doing. Right, that's fantasy stuff. You said,
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a ruby, you've got no money. We know this, well,
little money they've got. Not quite sure they know what
they're doing with it. World rugby have to do something.
This is a world rugby issue. This is not just
Super rugby. For years and years the Pacific Islands have
been ignored, yet their players have been cherry picked for
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the Northern Hemisphere and they've been providing some of the
best rugby talent we see in some of the most
stimulating rugby content we watch. To me, it's all on
World rugby. So how does this affecting you as far
as a fan base is concerned? And who needs to
come and clean this up? Eight hundred and eighty ten
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talking with Ish Sody and the Hurricanes Super Rugby CEO Avonlea.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
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Speaker 9 (19:33):
Hi Darsy a great discussion. It's just that there is
a tongue and rugby union as well the way and
the sum on one.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And one and one yep so and is working because
I believe it's based over there, and I think they've
got much more buying as far as sponsorship is concerned
from what I've been told though a little difficult to
combine Thongla and Samoa find a home ground where they
are and get the buying from everybody. So I think
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there's a there's a wee jallabar there but carry on.
Speaker 9 (20:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, just my if the case for the
team when it first started up was it twenty twenty two?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Sorry sag.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
When the team started then the business case I think
possibly what could have helped us is more of a
the Tonga and Samoa kind of and put what's their
role here? Because I don't well, I agree that new
inside Are if you should should not should not help
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to a huge extent because it's essentially it's an island team.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
They are involved in Super Rugby ins Are. This is
one of their babies, so they can't just say welcome
and then let them run a drift. They have a
partial responsibility, don't they.
Speaker 10 (20:51):
They do.
Speaker 9 (20:51):
Yeah, But the real thing is Will Rugby that when
toler like they were, hear that plat tooking them or
some are plant tooking them, they must make a lot
of money out of there. So that's a key point
of my call is just to say a bit of
transparency around where that money is going.
Speaker 11 (21:05):
They take them.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, what they do to us with the all blacks
over there, well, welcome, we'd love to have you there.
There's eighty five thousand people here that have paid way
too much money to what you pay. Can I have some? No,
they do, can't have any.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
Well, yes, that's where I agree that World Rugby should
step in. But I just think there should be a
bit of transparency from the Islands too, Will Rugby, and
then I think it might be more of a cooperative thing.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Okay, well, thank you Conrad. And it does open up
for discussion. I think that's really important. How big some
are Executive producer Andy Duff, Because you're just saying, what,
there's a million on people on feejee, so they've got
some population behind them as far as being able to
sell this property as a sponsorship concern. But there's like
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we one hundred thousand people on Tongne two hundred thousand,
and some are that this is tiny, three hundred thousand
split between two items. I don've got no idea how
far they are becomes very difficult that a basic and
Aukland makes sense. And I think that Gazelle and Rugby
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have lots of skin in the game of Super Rugby Pacific,
so they do have responsibility, but how much and ultimately
who needs to actually stand above it all and help
It's world rugby. They keep stealing these players, they do
something guys. Good day, Deborah.
Speaker 12 (22:35):
Oh hi there, Darcy. You might find that I disagree
with you. Darcy. What are you going to do about that?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Well, I haven't heard you say anything yet, Deborah.
Speaker 12 (22:43):
Well, I think they've had a good run for three years.
I also, I'm not very keen on the words that
I hear from a very familiar ex rugby player. I
think he's sam On, but he's got Japanese in him.
I think he's one of the coaches of one of
the teams. I don't like the way they go on
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and refer to their culture the whole time.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
But that's part of it.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's a team of pacifica.
Speaker 12 (23:15):
But I don't I don't think you know where European
New Zealanders and in New Zealand. Well, let me finish
the European New Zealand rugby all black players. They don't
go on about their culture where European, where European where Europeans.
Just let them play. And I feel that if if
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they can't afford the money, sadly, you know, New Zealand
is actually not in a great financial position.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
There is New Zealand. Neither's New Zealand rugby union, but
world rugby is and they I believe have a responsibility
to look after Ireland rugby because they steal wear players
and Ireland rugby is possibly the best product there is.
And you're right, I do disagree with you. I take
ambridge you saying this is a moana pacificer team and
unlike the staid white people which I am one of
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in this country, even though our family's BENI since eighteen fifty,
they celebrate their culture and their people and that's an
enormous part of how the island community works. It is
important to them so for you to sit on the
outside and say you don't like it, it's a case,
well I don't think they care, Deborah. They're doing it
for them. They're not doing it to make you happy.
(24:37):
Gave you plenty of time to come back, but you
didn't find it pretty hard to stomach that call.
Speaker 11 (24:44):
Well there you go.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
That's the way it goes, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Say, I celebrate the Pacific Island, Celebrate the Mardi community,
celebrate what they do around family, and it is more
on not Pasifka. They're very proud of their culture, they're
very proud of what they bring to New Zealand and
what their communities mean. Why not reflect that in the rugby.
Well they have to behave like everybody else. Gee, that's said.
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It's twenty five minutes to eight. Coming up next to
the program, We're gonna talk a wee bit of cricket.
We're gonna talk cricket with Is Sodi. He's not one
of the twenty contracted New Zealand players, but he's going
to go and play in a try series anyway, along
with a couple other crew who turned contracts down. He's
(25:32):
just wasn't offered one, but he's going anyway, he's in
the team, first squad named by their new coach going away.
What seventh of July I want to say for we
try series twenty Try series in Zimbabwe and South Africa,
he joins, us.
Speaker 11 (26:02):
I think guy left him somewhere.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Are no longer go?
Speaker 11 (26:06):
You know want you're away now.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
From these things where seventy eight sports care on news talks,
their b.
Speaker 11 (26:16):
Talks.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I'm cricket on the program now. Yeah, like Summersman so
far away. The winter solstice has been though, so it's
getting more and more summary with every passing day. Give
me that, give me something, please, let's talk cricket. He
Sody joins the program at now the team for the
(26:37):
Try series that he twenty try series over in Africa
has been named.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
He is in it. Good evening ish, good evening, dars.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
How are you mate?
Speaker 9 (26:45):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
You're going to tour and you'll get the t twenty side.
It's the that's the first side that Rob Walt is named.
And of course you're not on the central contracted list,
but you're still engaged. So before we talk about the tour,
when you actually sit yeah, no.
Speaker 10 (27:00):
Is that you know, it's a big changing landscape at
the moment, and obviously missing out on the contract list
this year by quite a narrow margin I think was
pretty pretty tough to take. But I guess, you know,
the cool thing is there's still an avenue and opportunity
for me to play some TEA twenty creuit for New Zealand,
and obviously with Rob Wolter coming in.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Fresh set of eyes, something.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
New, hopefully it's something that can set me off and
I can play a bit more consistently this year and
you know, eventually get that contract back. But at the moment,
I think it's just about taking every opportunity I can.
It's nice to be able to be named in their
first side, that Rob's named.
Speaker 11 (27:32):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It shows some faith in what you're doing. And as
we know, look South African, but he spent a lot
of time over here coaching through Central and Otago and
New Zealand days, so he knows what people can do.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Yet, Yeah, totally. You know, Rob spent a lot of
time in New Zealand.
Speaker 10 (27:46):
I think the first time I met him he was coaching,
might have been Otarget first and then we went to
CD and I could have that wrong, but you know,
he's played against some of his teams.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
A lot, always got on really well with them off
the park.
Speaker 10 (27:58):
All my interactions have been positive. So I've only dealt
with him once in a coaching capacity in the camp,
you know, a week or so ago, but he was
very encouraging of where I was at, and you know
it keeps on encouraging me to keep developing my skills.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
So you know, it could still be an asset to
the New Zealand side for some time to come.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
You've still got the passion that is the key thing.
So as far as skills are concerned, as I hate
saying this each but as as bowlers in the spin
department get older and more mature, they become better. Is
that your trajectory? Do you think?
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (28:31):
You know, I think like I often think. You know,
I'm thirty two years old. You often think when a
cricket is getting old.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
You know he sort of look at that thirty six
or thirty eight sort of mark.
Speaker 10 (28:40):
But you know, at the moment, I think, with the
way the game's gone and how SNC's played a big part,
you know, thirty two still feels really young. And like
I know, if Warning was still here and I was
like talking to him about being old man, like Matte,
you're in your prime? You fine, you know, Like so
I sort of have that voice in my head to
you know, continue to keep looking to improve. And you know,
I've played one sort of role for New Zealand and
(29:00):
ten twenties for a long time, and that's been after
the power play and through the middle.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
But I think, you know, at the moment, I'd love
to be able to.
Speaker 10 (29:07):
Provide a little bit more support for you know, us
spin bowlers like Mitch and Braces and that and that
power play as well.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
So I'm definitely going to have to figure out some
new ways to be able to do that. But that's
certainly keeping me younger. And like you say, the passions there, man,
I'm hungry is ever.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Well, it wasn't like, you know, super mature saying more mature.
You're you're advancing, You're growing into your role. Please don't
take this as a slap in the face.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Mate, I like a bit of pay mate.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Okay, Fine, you said you're going to be helping out
the bunch. So you've got the Santa Claus Mitchell Sander
who's the skipper, and then as you mentioned, there's there's
quite a few tweakers floating around. So as far as
what role you think you're going to play and how
prominent you're going to be, is that just at the
time what Rob's seeing where you think you are sitting.
Speaker 10 (29:55):
There's no guarantees, right, Oh, exactly right, man, there's no
guarantees ever. And you know it's it's international sports, a
fickle thing, and you know, like you say, every opportunity
you get is a really positive one. But I suppose
for me and my own growth is you know, I've
had twelve great, great years playing you know, lots of
Creta from New Zealand, playing.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Lots of created in northern districts in Canterbury.
Speaker 10 (30:16):
I've had a chance to go all over the world
and playing some different leagues, so it's been awesome. But
you know, I've only ever done one role and that's
been effectively from that seventh over onwards. So you know,
I could carry on doing that and like you say,
you know, or like I've sort of said, I've had
a good, good chance and a good chunk of my
life doing that. But look, I'd love to be able
(30:36):
to challenge myself and say why can't you bowl over
in the power play, but you know, if you are
going to do that, you might have to do it
slightly differently to how you bowl in the middle. So
working those things out and you know, that sort of
problem solving is something I find really exciting at the.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Moment and I've implemented into my training and then.
Speaker 10 (30:51):
It's just trying to marry up with you know, what
Rob sees in terms of the team going forward and
how I can fit into that.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Twelve years it's been that long. No wonder I thought
you were old, mate, I'm telling you, I'm serious.
Speaker 10 (31:04):
Everyone everyone thinks I'm thirty seven, and you know, Chryst Almighty,
I've got all these grays coming through.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
At the moment. I'm like, I'm thirty two. Man, I'm
still supposed to be in my prime and stuff is
moving forward but far out.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, you are in your prime. It be known you're
thirty two years old. You've got so much more to offer.
What happens over in Africa as far as conditions are
concerned likely to be suitable for what you do.
Speaker 10 (31:29):
I mean, I've had two tourists him Babwe before and
I found the wickets were really dry. But it's not
like an Asian sort of dry where they sort of
grip and turn a lot. It's kind of more as
fast the compar it to any it'd be like u A,
you know, almost like sort of desert style, kind of low,
little bit skiddy, you know wickets.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
So yeah, hopefully by by the time the tri.
Speaker 10 (31:53):
Series sort of keeps eventuating, the wickets start to wear,
Hopefully there's a bit of assistance there in terms of
sideways movement.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
But you know, hopefully it's something to use in terms
of the low bounce because layers.
Speaker 10 (32:04):
You know in New Zealand's like not really too much on.
So when you do get some dry conditions, it's often
often a nice place to be able to showcase your skills.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
I don't think you want to be pushy around this,
but plainly the T twenty World Cup is right in
your cross here, so this is a perfect opportunity. Like
you're obviously been told by Rob Walter that he sees
you in his plans. So based on what you deliver
either there really sets you up for inclusion of the
home series and of course the T twenty World Cup.
(32:32):
Or is that looking too far ahead each.
Speaker 10 (32:35):
Oh, look, it might be looking a little bit too
far ahead of the moment, you know, like I'm trying
to take things in my stride. I've been actually like
nursing a bit of a hip injury of the last
two or three months as well, so you know, that's
kind of been the big focus is to get rehab
in place, get right for this, you know, in terms
of selection for.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
The Zimbabwe too, which I've managed to do, which is
really exciting.
Speaker 10 (32:53):
And then and yeah, like you know, there's always that
ticket of world tournaments around the corner. I'm been fortunate
to play numerous TEA twenty World Cups now and I
love playing those T twenty World Cups. It's probably the
one of the best tournaments that I've been involved. And
certainly the last T twenty World Cup in America and
the Caribbean, I ended up playing only one game towards
the back end of it, so I wasn't able to
(33:15):
get out of the park, and you know, I potentially
felt like my role of only being able to offer
those middle overs as opposed to the power play maybe
played against me and I couldn't could kind of break
into the side. And so I've definitely got that motivation
to be like, well, you know, whatever it takes for
me to be able to play the role I can
for the team and be versatile and give us more
(33:35):
options moving forward, and hopefully that means that, you know,
in the long run there is an inclusion that T
twenty World Cup, not just to be in the squad,
but to play play a bit of a role.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
One last thing, it's always very pleasurable talking to you.
Long may you play for our New Zealand so I
can keep getting you on the airwaves. Tell us about
Bevan Jacobs. He's the debutante here. Is he a man
to fear from the opposition's point of view?
Speaker 10 (33:58):
Yeah, Look, he's a really special player. I think the
thing about think about Bevan Jacobs is like he's one
of those guys at bats in the middle order and
you can had the ball, you know, for six from
ball one, and like I think, you know upon and
I think over the years we you know, around the
world there's probably two or three guys that do really.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Well in the league.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
You sort of think of guys like Current Pollard and
Tim David especially sort of standout. And I know it's
you know, we're talking about a guy who's quite young
and he's coming into his own.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
But I really do firmly believe that he could play
to the level of those guys.
Speaker 10 (34:30):
And you know, he's recently had some exposure playing in
the IPL for the Mumbai Indians and you know, a
guy that hasn't even played for New Zealand, but to
be recognized with a big franchise like that, you can,
you know, probably probably really understand that he does have
a skill set that you could set him aside and
be a will you know, will beating star. And it's
really nice to see a guy like that come through
and you know, be someone that we can use in
(34:53):
the New Zealand side.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Gee, another one, Finn Allen after what he's been doing
over in the States. You know what Tim Sichet can
do with the ball as well. Glenn Phillips as a monster.
Now we can add Bevan Jacobs to it. This is
like all the fun of the circus and fun of
the nets, mate.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yeah, no, it's really good. Like he's quite tough to
bolt to as well.
Speaker 10 (35:13):
Like I've been able to go out there and play
again against him a few times and so it's always
quite quite challenging to bolt to him.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Darcy, And from now on and he said he will
be thirty two. He is never going to age. I'm
very sorry about that. East. This is coming from someone
who's nearly at level fifty six. I feel your pain.
Coming up next on the program that we are going
to talk to Evan Lee, Hurricanes super rugby team, Chief
executive officer. Hurricanes have set up a trade me auction
(35:42):
with a lot of awesome, awesome content to pick up
the wider squad players. Partner's been diagnosed with a rare
and very aggressive cancer. The Hurricanes want to purchain and help.
I want you to help too. Find out the details
of Avonlea. Up next here on news Talks B seven
(36:08):
fifty one, we're talking now with Evan Lee, chief executive
officer of the Hurricane. So they're doing a fundraiser. They've
got an auction running. To give us the details and
why are we joined now by Avan? Fill the details
in for us, mate.
Speaker 10 (36:26):
Yeah, mate.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
We've got Nui Middleways in a wider training group and
his partner, Midiana Ps is twenty years old and just
been diagnosed for very rare form of ovarian cancer which
affects one in ten million women and it's very aggressive.
So she's been told she's got a couple of months
to live and there are options with expensive medication or
(36:50):
travel to the US, and they're not sure which way
it's going to go yet they're taking advice. So yeah,
I just thought, how can the Hurricanes help. Nui's a
lovely guy and Midiana they're a lovely couple. So how
can we use our platform to support them? Because if
you're fifty or sixty getting cancer, you're absolutely devastated, you know,
(37:12):
happening to a twenty year.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Old, it's just horrendous.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
So yeah, we just wanted to weigh in.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
Behind it, and I've called some very humble and loyal
Hurricanes players who've donated amazing items.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
It's just heart wrenching. I had a describe likely twenty
years old, my daughter's twenty five years it's so close
and it at you it was one in ten million chance.
I wow. So as far as this this is an auction,
how's it being run? How do people get involved in?
What kind of booty can they pack up? Because look
(37:50):
it's about fundraising, but also for the pool room too.
There's some probably expect quite valuable items. There have them?
Speaker 7 (37:58):
Yes, there are, I mean you know, we're trying to
raise as much as we can for them, and we've
started trading me auction. What can obviously look on trade me.
There's some fantastic items. We've got test match jerseys worn
by Tyl Lomax and Brad Shields. We've got an All
Blacks jersey from Dane Cole's. Possibly the biggest item is
(38:24):
the twenty four person corporate box for the All Blacks
South Africa Test in September in Wellington, donated by Sky Stadium,
so you know that's going to fetch a big number
in itself. And we've got some other cool things like
and have lunch with the All Blacks or some of
the All Blacks out the Hurricanes, some signed jerseys, golf
(38:44):
with Jordi Barrett and Christian Cullen, you know. So it's
really cool, it's quite unique. We don't normally do this
kind of thing, but I think when you see something
like this you really just want help and sort of
everybody's swung behind my mad idea and you know, donated
gifts and items and just helped out with the marketing
(39:07):
and every other thing. So yeah, it feels really good,
but it's a very sad situation that we are trying
to play a little part and helping.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
It says a lot about the respect and the adoha
that the team in the district have for Nui and Madiana,
doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
It does?
Speaker 7 (39:25):
Yeah, I mean enough from the sort of originate from
the Wai Catau and you know this friends and Fanno
up there that are kind of blown away by what
we're trying to do. But you know, to be perfectly honest,
it's actually really simple thing. We've made a few phone
calls and got a few auction items and just want
to sort of do our berth really so you know
(39:45):
we've got a platform to do it, so why not Evan.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
People want to engage trade me? What's the title? How
do they find this option?
Speaker 7 (39:53):
If you search Hurricanes trade me, you'll you'll get to it.
And there's also a give a Little page for Midiana pis.
But we've got details on our website too, so if
you can't find either of those, thanks, just jump on
our website.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Thanks Avan, thanks for joining us. And if you do
want to contribute, you want to have a look at
the auction on trade me or jump on to the
give a Little page. Just go to Hurricanes dot co
dot in Z and there you'll find the links to
the trading auction, to the give a Little page as well.
(40:30):
You know, you think having a bad day and the
world's up against you and something like this happens, and wow,
it's hard for it and twenty years old. This it's
aggressive form of a varying cancer one in ten million women.
(40:52):
Apparently that treatment she needs cost an average of sixty
to seventy thousand dollars for every four doses. I think
it's fantastic. At the Hurricanes, the members the players are
all standing up to say we want to help a
(41:13):
corporate box or two Hurricanes legends at the All Blacks
South Africa Test on September the thirteenth, twenty four people,
you can offer something for that in the auction. Test
match worn jersey donated by a Trell Lomax in this
thirty ninth Test, a Test match warn jersey by Brad
Shields and an All Black jerseys signed by Dane Coles
around a goal for Jordi Barrett Christian Cullen. Five fully
(41:36):
signed Marvel jerseys from each of the New Zealand based
h Elsea Very Pacific teams. Lunch with three of the Aracans,
all Blacks and Wellington Hurricanes Heritage Jersey. There's a lot
up for grabs that this trade meet auction and it's
all for a wonderful cause. Get in there, have a look,
have a bid. We'll jump to Mediana's give a little
(41:59):
page and see if you can help out. I said
from us here tonight News Talks there, Thanks very much
for listening, Thanks for texting. I won't say thanks for
all the calls because one of them was as dice
as they come, but that's all right as people for
you any duff, Thanks for reducing for the very last time.
(42:20):
Love your work mate and Darcy auto Grave. I'm gone.
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Coming up on this evening show, we're going to finish
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with the Hurricanes Super rugby team CEO mister Evan Lee.
Hurricanes are looking for donations. They've got an auction running
on trade Me. One of their widest squad players partners
has been diagnosed with a very rare, very aggressive cancer.
We will talk to Avonlea about the Hurricanes' involvement, what
(01:18):
they have to do, and how you can bid to
alleviate the stress and the pressure on this wonderful young couple.
Before that, East Sody joins us a Black Caps Tea
twenty spin it super nice bloke. Love talking with e
Shit Sody. He's been selected for the South African Zimbabwe
T twenty series. The oddity here is he it doesn't
(01:41):
have a central contract, right, he missed out a couple
of months or a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
How long ago was that?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Andrew Duffas a while ago anyway, so he missed out,
but he still got packed. And in fact, there's a
couple of players who didn't want central contracts have also
been picked for this side, but each is an odd
one because he wanted a contract, he didn't get one,
but they still wanted him to play. So East joins
us to discuss that and we're going to kick things
(02:07):
off shortly with a better Alatini form. All Black of
course a massive advocate for Pacific rugby looking at the
future of Moana PACIFICA with the financial situation primarily not
about the details and not getting into the weeds around
what happened financially, because that is still rather messy and
(02:29):
I'm sure financial mind are the larger than ours will
climb on into that if you want to have a
we look at that. You can read Gregor Paul's piece
and he's on Herald dot co dot nz. He has
a good dig around, good financial journalist and background and
mister Gregor Paul, Peter and I want to discuss the
effect that's going to have on the wider Pacifica community
(02:51):
in the pathways that Mwana Pacifica was starting to provide.
What kind of a body blow is this and we'd
like your thoughts on that as well. It's been a
slow burn, but it's got there. People are turning up,
people are watching. UB's got some backing the field goods
out there and it might grind to a halt before
(03:13):
twenty twenty six. So we'll talk about that with Peter Alertini,
but likely normally do because I'm a creature of habit.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Let's do this sport today and.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
In sport today. Israeli design the Broken Nature, the Last
Style Bender, the Scary af Cage Fighter is now a
member of the UFC Hall of Fame. He reflects on
what the middleweight title fight between himself and fellow Hall
of Famer Kelvin Gastam meant to him.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
This was one of the most important moments, not just
in my career, but in my life, and it showed
me what the human animal is capable of. I was
willing to but if I died that night, what a
glorious death.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Oh the human animal. I love the description. We all
are animals. And they said, hey, so why not roll
a few Hollywood A listers into the mix of so
GP Sir Russell Coots isn't targeting them, but he's not
coming about the likes of Reynolds and Halfaway and Jackman's
contribution to the global sailing juggernaut because it is.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
We haven't really targeted that celebrity investment. But it definitely
creates a buzz and awareness around the property, which is
which is great. The awareness around soldierp has grown exponentially
over the last seasons.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Bevan Jacobs is then you kill on the block for
the black Caps. The brutal middle order ball slayer is in.
Devin Conway is out. But it's not a direct swap.
It's not a direct They're different players, Okay either way.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
I think for me, maybe that that skill set what's
seen at the moment is trying to finish off often innings,
and I guess I'm just going to try and get
better at that step by step and hopefully that's.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
What gets me in to say, actually talk to a
sody about what this bloke provides as well, for he's
been playing over the IPL before even representing yourselves. Pretty impressive,
st I had ten thousand motorsport cuts to play to
you all involved Formula one, but I thought that would
(05:14):
be a bad idea, so we're just going to run
with one. Liam Lawson Racing bulls KIWI Pilot knows that
this weekend's Grand Prix in Austria will be closer than
close Jack mcclose, winner of last year's close competition.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
One thing I know is it's going to be close here.
It's always very close and this year in general it's
been extremely close, so I expect it to be even
more so this weekend, just because it's a short lat
and it's been that kind of season.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
And that's close.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Sport today.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Right, Let's move on now to talk it's not a
great story is that we've had a couple of pretty
horrid stories this week in the wonderful wide world of sport.
This is all around Mwana PACIFICA and the dire financial
straits they reportedly have found themselves in. So if it
were to collapse, well, and we'll see I'm talking about
(06:09):
that now with from All Black and All Round GC.
He's a huge advocate of Pacific Rugby. Peter Alertini, welcome
to the program.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Good evening, good even he does or is the pleasure
my man?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Great to be chatting again, But maybe not under the
best of circumstances, with the possibility that Mowana Pacifica, after
causing up a big ruckust this year and what they've done,
might not be around next to you through the financial
difficulties that they are experiencing. What kind of a body
blow is that to Pacifica rugby players and fans here
(06:43):
in Auckland City.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Oh this is huge as we saw the momentum or moon,
but I should say that was carried this year through
taller AND's awesome coaching group and then obviously led by
Ardi and the crew. The way the people that had
really attached and kind of followed the group this year
had come a long way. You know, it'd come a
long way from from the early beginning to where it is.
(07:07):
And I suppose the team this year really visions what
everyone was wanting as Pasilica people wanting to follow as such.
So it will be a huge blow for not only
like the teams South, but also for pathways for young
buzzifaker kids coming through and grassroots. As we know, the
(07:28):
percentage is a huge amongst all grades and all levels
and rugby, whether it's grassroots up to the top and
super rugby for players to have this opportunity, but it is,
it is really, it's definitely a tough time at the
moment to really see them going through this knowing that,
especially the success that they've had this year.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You look at the blow as well to tongue and
rugby to someone on rugby and how that affects them
because basically, as you see, they're a pathway helps channel
the best talent. I know that the All Blacks, they're
allowed to capital them and the team and maybe a
few of them might get penched and neck to go
somewhere else. That'd so be it. But when you look
at the Islands and what they have gained out of
(08:09):
this so far, this is again, this is a poke
in the eye, isn't it. Oh?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
For sure, look look at young Miracle Felung, you right,
the boy that was based in someone who's come through
and now is a unbelievable form this year, and and
what a great story of that is. But for guys
like himself and these many more back in the islands
that should moan to not go through, then you know,
pathways for those guys and back of the islands, like
you mentioned, does disappear. And and and it is like,
(08:37):
you know, we're trying to grow not the participation but
around the competitiveness around our Pacific island nations in these competitions.
But if we haven't got the super rugby team to
to really have these kids playing at a top level competitively,
we can weak out. Then it is a huge blow
for for the island ass of of the Pacific. So
(08:59):
you know, look, it's it's it's definitely you know, hidden
fear people hard. And I know that you know some
of the young players coming up who really enjoyed this
year and what was presented. I suppose throughout the competition,
as you know you sent, some people are feeling up
tied and then waiting for what the actual movements are
(09:19):
going forward.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
It was a slow burned fan wise, and I think
most of us were quite shocked. I'm sure you were too,
Peter Alertini. When suddenly they started filling up North Harbor
Stadium for Moana Pasivika. I mean no one predicted that,
but slowly but surely people brought it. People climbed on
board and suddenly that and as you mentioned before, there
(09:42):
was a movement, there was momentum in that to stop that. Now.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Ouch, It's look, I was there, like i've I've been
in and out of the group, just going to support
and to see it from what it was last year.
I remember going to the game and Mount Smart there
was more people in the Bloomin hospitality area then there
was outside watching it stadium. But to see it and
(10:08):
then and funny enough to go all the way to
North Harbor to get that movement. But everyone had brought
in and I really do you know, you know the
fact that the coaching group that they had this year,
Orlando joining in was already with Tom Commentary and Tana Polias,
and that they really did really capture I suppose what
(10:29):
was required. And then you know, everyone knows the art
effect that he had coming in, but also how much
of a level that he lifted for everyone else that
was in the camp. You know, guys players like Pale
GREENI and all these kids that just absolutely two poor.
There was a number eight. You know, there was just
so much I suppose so many good things. I suppose
(10:51):
that they're our Busfiker people were wanting to see, especially
in Super Rugby and for most most of them beating
you know, for the team to have the record they
had and beating all the Super franchise by the Chiefs
of Seek. But having those great ones created that momentum
and movement and then you know, like you said, it
had to be at north Shore Stadium, but even the
South Africans brought into it having those brand warnings for
(11:13):
the boys. So everything was going accordingly as such, and
it would again like you mentioned, it would be a
huge blow if it disappears next year.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, if it does. Like I don't know the financial
details because by the looks of it, it's a little
on the murky side. There are people maybe in possessions
that they shouldn't possibly being with conflicts of interest. I
don't know how that evolves. We do know that World
Rugby are taking some money away, Jersey sponsors have gone.
(11:42):
How far do you think ends are or anybody need
to climb into actually rescue this. Is it throwing money
after bad any Is there a point in doing this?
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Is it needed? Should the funding be there?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, Look, it's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
And you know, like.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
And that's always been the battle form wine up being
based here and in New Zealand and and you know, yes,
the players there's a lot of players from here that
do go through. But it's a tough one for me
to answer in that space because I don't know whether
it is in the Rugby's responsibility. I feel there's you
know with World Rugby because it is a good thing,
(12:22):
you know, like you know, where where do they stand
and kind of helping these this franchise out And and
it's always i think I've spoken about it in different shows.
It's it's really needed a huge contributor from outside of
this and and and that's it's always going to be
the problem in trying to create something within here and
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within these Zealand as well, because it's limited, as we
know in it's limited, and what you see around in
the products of rugby, you know, without NPC and in
different revenues that are coming through. It is a struggle
here within our little country soul in terms of answer
to to really we do need outside back it to
really come through and bank on this. For one, I
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can because as we've seen with the momentum, and also
you know with A players such as as Noney, I'm
up here coming in like the excitement is still still
building it to the as, yes, they've lost the team,
but I'm pretty sure they have a plan around that,
and so it'll be, it'll be it will be detrimental
to to the to the pusificer people not having this
team this year.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, I think the Noney is going to be quite
something else to watch. We all remember what he is
capable of. Look I from what I can gather, Peter,
and thanks so much for joining us. If there is
a responsibility four or two Pacific rugby, it's got to
be World rugby New Zealand rugby. They're not rich, they
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haven't got at all. I know they do well out
of PACIFICA players of course, but they come to New Zealand,
they get trained, they go through the system so they
can peck them. But maybe world rugby they've got a
look to how many PACIFICA players are playing over in
club competitions and its Garrison, France and England and Wales.
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They're a source of enormous entertainment and some fantastically talented players.
They're good for the global game, mate.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Absolutely and it's always been our l plea and it's
you know, I think it's especially with this organization, with
they've proven how far they've come, they've proven this year,
they've got the people in the council work that they
could go through. It will be something really for Ward
Rugby to really bank on because, like you said, these
players all across the world, buzzfigure players that are fulfilling
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into not only clubs with them, but even in countries
in the Northern Hemisphere. So it will be a good
kind of you know to really look at it from
from a world right be point of view, to really
bank on this team because I feel like it's the
start of something that will just grow and be and
be seng of for our game global.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Forget the riffs call, you make the call on sports
Talk on your home of Sports News talks.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Be and that's happened al teeny talking about the effect
that has been the effect that Mwana Pacifiker has had
on the South Pacific community here in Auckland, why it
needs to stick around, why it needs to stay. But
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at text in saying Darcy was in charge of their finances,
I don't know and we're going to find that out.
That is all under investigation. It sounds pretty shonky, doesn't it.
Money funneled from the government agency through a agency designed
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to help with specific health who then of course own
Mawana and then some of that gets moved through to
help them and we don't know what the exact details are,
but it will be looked at, it will be under
the microscope as it should be. But aside that, the
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bigger thing for me, and this is what don't want
to hear from you. I don't need a forensic accountant
ring me up telling me what's going on, because no
one knows and tells me what effect will the loss
And for all intense purposes, most people are writing this
team off. This ain't ain't gonna happen. What I feel
the loss of this have on the Pacific rugby community
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here in Auckland, that's one thread. You may be part
of that. You may be part of the late uprising
of fans that had actually turned up and started watching
this team. It was a slow start. Fascinatingly, they actually
managed to get some traction North Harbor of all places,
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Adi Savilla, I'm sure I helped as well with what
he brought to the party. But they're finally getting traction,
and as you've just heard Peter saying, that is a
pathway there. There's a place that young pacificer can look
to and go, hey, this may be my entry and
I might be able to get toward All Black Rugby.
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Ideally it goes to Tongulin or Samo and Rugby, but
it's open for all. What kind of effect is this
going to have on you as a fan base, knowing
it's not going to be there? What effect does this
have on your friends and Fano who are playing he
might want to get there? And the other question who's
responsible for this mess? Like who should actually be climbing
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in and bailing them out.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Injured?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I have skin in the game and they're putting money
in and they've run out of sponsors Jersey sponsors in
the like right difficult? Who needs to come in and
clean this up? It'd be really nice if there was
a multi billionaire investor out there actually came in and
wrote them a fat check so they could carry on
doing what they're doing. Right, that's fantasy stuff. You said,
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a ruby, you've got no money. We know this, well,
little money they've got. Not quite sure they know what
they're doing with it. World rugby have to do something.
This is a world rugby issue. This is not just
Super rugby. For years and years the Pacific Islands have
been ignored, yet their players have been cherry picked for
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the Northern Hemisphere and they've been providing some of the
best rugby talent we see in some of the most
stimulating rugby content we watch. To me, it's all on
World rugby. So how does this affecting you as far
as a fan base is concerned? And who needs to
come and clean this up? Eight hundred and eighty ten
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text in nineteen ninet two. That's a ZBZB standard tex
charge that does apply your calls. Coming up next also
talking with Ish Sody and the Hurricanes Super Rugby CEO Avonlea.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah you hear it from the biggest names and sports
and men. Have your sale eighty Sports Talk more on
your home of Sports News Talk zip.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
B News Talks there B Dylan's more on Sports Talk,
there's editet A Conrad.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
Hi Darsy a great discussion. It's just that there is
a tongue and rugby union as well the way and
the sum on one.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And one and one yep so and is working because
I believe it's based over there, and I think they've
got much more buying as far as sponsorship is concerned
from what I've been told though a little difficult to
combine Thongla and Samoa find a home ground where they
are and get the buying from everybody. So I think
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there's a there's a wee jallabar there but carry on.
Speaker 9 (20:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, just my if the case for the
team when it first started up was it twenty twenty two?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Sorry sag.
Speaker 9 (20:15):
When the team started then the business case I think
possibly what could have helped us is more of a
the Tonga and Samoa kind of and put what's their
role here? Because I don't well, I agree that new
inside Are if you should should not should not help
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to a huge extent because it's essentially it's an island team.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
They are involved in Super Rugby ins Are. This is
one of their babies, so they can't just say welcome
and then let them run a drift. They have a
partial responsibility, don't they.
Speaker 10 (20:51):
They do.
Speaker 9 (20:51):
Yeah, But the real thing is Will Rugby that when
toler like they were, hear that plat tooking them or
some are plant tooking them, they must make a lot
of money out of there. So that's a key point
of my call is just to say a bit of
transparency around where that money is going.
Speaker 11 (21:05):
They take them.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, what they do to us with the all blacks
over there, well, welcome, we'd love to have you there.
There's eighty five thousand people here that have paid way
too much money to what you pay. Can I have some? No,
they do, can't have any.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
Well, yes, that's where I agree that World Rugby should
step in. But I just think there should be a
bit of transparency from the Islands too, Will Rugby, and
then I think it might be more of a cooperative thing.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Okay, well, thank you Conrad. And it does open up
for discussion. I think that's really important. How big some
are Executive producer Andy Duff, Because you're just saying, what,
there's a million on people on feejee, so they've got
some population behind them as far as being able to
sell this property as a sponsorship concern. But there's like
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we one hundred thousand people on Tongne two hundred thousand,
and some are that this is tiny, three hundred thousand
split between two items. I don've got no idea how
far they are becomes very difficult that a basic and
Aukland makes sense. And I think that Gazelle and Rugby
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have lots of skin in the game of Super Rugby Pacific,
so they do have responsibility, but how much and ultimately
who needs to actually stand above it all and help
It's world rugby. They keep stealing these players, they do
something guys. Good day, Deborah.
Speaker 12 (22:35):
Oh hi there, Darcy. You might find that I disagree
with you. Darcy. What are you going to do about that?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Well, I haven't heard you say anything yet, Deborah.
Speaker 12 (22:43):
Well, I think they've had a good run for three years.
I also, I'm not very keen on the words that
I hear from a very familiar ex rugby player. I
think he's sam On, but he's got Japanese in him.
I think he's one of the coaches of one of
the teams. I don't like the way they go on
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and refer to their culture the whole time.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
But that's part of it.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
It's a team of pacifica.
Speaker 12 (23:15):
But I don't I don't think you know where European
New Zealanders and in New Zealand. Well, let me finish
the European New Zealand rugby all black players. They don't
go on about their culture where European, where European where Europeans.
Just let them play. And I feel that if if
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they can't afford the money, sadly, you know, New Zealand
is actually not in a great financial position.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
There is New Zealand. Neither's New Zealand rugby union, but
world rugby is and they I believe have a responsibility
to look after Ireland rugby because they steal wear players
and Ireland rugby is possibly the best product there is.
And you're right, I do disagree with you. I take
ambridge you saying this is a moana pacificer team and
unlike the staid white people which I am one of
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in this country, even though our family's BENI since eighteen fifty,
they celebrate their culture and their people and that's an
enormous part of how the island community works. It is
important to them so for you to sit on the
outside and say you don't like it, it's a case,
well I don't think they care, Deborah. They're doing it
for them. They're not doing it to make you happy.
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Gave you plenty of time to come back, but you
didn't find it pretty hard to stomach that call.
Speaker 11 (24:44):
Well there you go.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
That's the way it goes, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Say, I celebrate the Pacific Island, Celebrate the Mardi community,
celebrate what they do around family, and it is more
on not Pasifka. They're very proud of their culture, they're
very proud of what they bring to New Zealand and
what their communities mean. Why not reflect that in the rugby.
Well they have to behave like everybody else. Gee, that's said.
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It's twenty five minutes to eight. Coming up next to
the program, We're gonna talk a wee bit of cricket.
We're gonna talk cricket with Is Sodi. He's not one
of the twenty contracted New Zealand players, but he's going
to go and play in a try series anyway, along
with a couple other crew who turned contracts down. He's
(25:32):
just wasn't offered one, but he's going anyway, he's in
the team, first squad named by their new coach going away.
What seventh of July I want to say for we
try series twenty Try series in Zimbabwe and South Africa,
he joins, us.
Speaker 11 (26:02):
I think guy left him somewhere.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Are no longer go?
Speaker 11 (26:06):
You know want you're away now.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
From these things where seventy eight sports care on news talks,
their b.
Speaker 11 (26:16):
Talks.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I'm cricket on the program now. Yeah, like Summersman so
far away. The winter solstice has been though, so it's
getting more and more summary with every passing day. Give
me that, give me something, please, let's talk cricket. He
Sody joins the program at now the team for the
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Try series that he twenty try series over in Africa
has been named.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
He is in it. Good evening ish, good evening, dars.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
How are you mate?
Speaker 9 (26:45):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
You're going to tour and you'll get the t twenty side.
It's the that's the first side that Rob Walt is named.
And of course you're not on the central contracted list,
but you're still engaged. So before we talk about the tour,
when you actually sit yeah, no.
Speaker 10 (27:00):
Is that you know, it's a big changing landscape at
the moment, and obviously missing out on the contract list
this year by quite a narrow margin I think was
pretty pretty tough to take. But I guess, you know,
the cool thing is there's still an avenue and opportunity
for me to play some TEA twenty creuit for New Zealand,
and obviously with Rob Wolter coming in.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Fresh set of eyes, something.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
New, hopefully it's something that can set me off and
I can play a bit more consistently this year and
you know, eventually get that contract back. But at the moment,
I think it's just about taking every opportunity I can.
It's nice to be able to be named in their
first side, that Rob's named.
Speaker 11 (27:32):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It shows some faith in what you're doing. And as
we know, look South African, but he spent a lot
of time over here coaching through Central and Otago and
New Zealand days, so he knows what people can do.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Yet, Yeah, totally. You know, Rob spent a lot of
time in New Zealand.
Speaker 10 (27:46):
I think the first time I met him he was coaching,
might have been Otarget first and then we went to
CD and I could have that wrong, but you know,
he's played against some of his teams.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
A lot, always got on really well with them off
the park.
Speaker 10 (27:58):
All my interactions have been positive. So I've only dealt
with him once in a coaching capacity in the camp,
you know, a week or so ago, but he was
very encouraging of where I was at, and you know
it keeps on encouraging me to keep developing my skills.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
So you know, it could still be an asset to
the New Zealand side for some time to come.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
You've still got the passion that is the key thing.
So as far as skills are concerned, as I hate
saying this each but as as bowlers in the spin
department get older and more mature, they become better. Is
that your trajectory? Do you think?
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (28:31):
You know, I think like I often think. You know,
I'm thirty two years old. You often think when a
cricket is getting old.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
You know he sort of look at that thirty six
or thirty eight sort of mark.
Speaker 10 (28:40):
But you know, at the moment, I think, with the
way the game's gone and how SNC's played a big part,
you know, thirty two still feels really young. And like
I know, if Warning was still here and I was
like talking to him about being old man, like Matte,
you're in your prime? You fine, you know, Like so
I sort of have that voice in my head to
you know, continue to keep looking to improve. And you know,
I've played one sort of role for New Zealand and
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ten twenties for a long time, and that's been after
the power play and through the middle.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
But I think, you know, at the moment, I'd love
to be able to.
Speaker 10 (29:07):
Provide a little bit more support for you know, us
spin bowlers like Mitch and Braces and that and that
power play as well.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
So I'm definitely going to have to figure out some
new ways to be able to do that. But that's
certainly keeping me younger. And like you say, the passions there, man,
I'm hungry is ever.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Well, it wasn't like, you know, super mature saying more mature.
You're you're advancing, You're growing into your role. Please don't
take this as a slap in the face.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Mate, I like a bit of pay mate.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Okay, Fine, you said you're going to be helping out
the bunch. So you've got the Santa Claus Mitchell Sander
who's the skipper, and then as you mentioned, there's there's
quite a few tweakers floating around. So as far as
what role you think you're going to play and how
prominent you're going to be, is that just at the
time what Rob's seeing where you think you are sitting.
Speaker 10 (29:55):
There's no guarantees, right, Oh, exactly right, man, there's no
guarantees ever. And you know it's it's international sports, a
fickle thing, and you know, like you say, every opportunity
you get is a really positive one. But I suppose
for me and my own growth is you know, I've
had twelve great, great years playing you know, lots of
Creta from New Zealand, playing.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Lots of created in northern districts in Canterbury.
Speaker 10 (30:16):
I've had a chance to go all over the world
and playing some different leagues, so it's been awesome. But
you know, I've only ever done one role and that's
been effectively from that seventh over onwards. So you know,
I could carry on doing that and like you say,
you know, or like I've sort of said, I've had
a good, good chance and a good chunk of my
life doing that. But look, I'd love to be able
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to challenge myself and say why can't you bowl over
in the power play, but you know, if you are
going to do that, you might have to do it
slightly differently to how you bowl in the middle. So
working those things out and you know, that sort of
problem solving is something I find really exciting at the.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Moment and I've implemented into my training and then.
Speaker 10 (30:51):
It's just trying to marry up with you know, what
Rob sees in terms of the team going forward and
how I can fit into that.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Twelve years it's been that long. No wonder I thought
you were old, mate, I'm telling you, I'm serious.
Speaker 10 (31:04):
Everyone everyone thinks I'm thirty seven, and you know, Chryst Almighty,
I've got all these grays coming through.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
At the moment. I'm like, I'm thirty two. Man, I'm
still supposed to be in my prime and stuff is
moving forward but far out.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, you are in your prime. It be known you're
thirty two years old. You've got so much more to offer.
What happens over in Africa as far as conditions are
concerned likely to be suitable for what you do.
Speaker 10 (31:29):
I mean, I've had two tourists him Babwe before and
I found the wickets were really dry. But it's not
like an Asian sort of dry where they sort of
grip and turn a lot. It's kind of more as
fast the compar it to any it'd be like u A,
you know, almost like sort of desert style, kind of low,
little bit skiddy, you know wickets.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
So yeah, hopefully by by the time the tri.
Speaker 10 (31:53):
Series sort of keeps eventuating, the wickets start to wear,
Hopefully there's a bit of assistance there in terms of
sideways movement.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
But you know, hopefully it's something to use in terms
of the low bounce because layers.
Speaker 10 (32:04):
You know in New Zealand's like not really too much on.
So when you do get some dry conditions, it's often
often a nice place to be able to showcase your skills.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
I don't think you want to be pushy around this,
but plainly the T twenty World Cup is right in
your cross here, so this is a perfect opportunity. Like
you're obviously been told by Rob Walter that he sees
you in his plans. So based on what you deliver
either there really sets you up for inclusion of the
home series and of course the T twenty World Cup.
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Or is that looking too far ahead each.
Speaker 10 (32:35):
Oh, look, it might be looking a little bit too
far ahead of the moment, you know, like I'm trying
to take things in my stride. I've been actually like
nursing a bit of a hip injury of the last
two or three months as well, so you know, that's
kind of been the big focus is to get rehab
in place, get right for this, you know, in terms
of selection for.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
The Zimbabwe too, which I've managed to do, which is
really exciting.
Speaker 10 (32:53):
And then and yeah, like you know, there's always that
ticket of world tournaments around the corner. I'm been fortunate
to play numerous TEA twenty World Cups now and I
love playing those T twenty World Cups. It's probably the
one of the best tournaments that I've been involved. And
certainly the last T twenty World Cup in America and
the Caribbean, I ended up playing only one game towards
the back end of it, so I wasn't able to
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get out of the park, and you know, I potentially
felt like my role of only being able to offer
those middle overs as opposed to the power play maybe
played against me and I couldn't could kind of break
into the side. And so I've definitely got that motivation
to be like, well, you know, whatever it takes for
me to be able to play the role I can
for the team and be versatile and give us more
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options moving forward, and hopefully that means that, you know,
in the long run there is an inclusion that T
twenty World Cup, not just to be in the squad,
but to play play a bit of a role.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
One last thing, it's always very pleasurable talking to you.
Long may you play for our New Zealand so I
can keep getting you on the airwaves. Tell us about
Bevan Jacobs. He's the debutante here. Is he a man
to fear from the opposition's point of view?
Speaker 10 (33:58):
Yeah, Look, he's a really special player. I think the
thing about think about Bevan Jacobs is like he's one
of those guys at bats in the middle order and
you can had the ball, you know, for six from
ball one, and like I think, you know upon and
I think over the years we you know, around the
world there's probably two or three guys that do really.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Well in the league.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
You sort of think of guys like Current Pollard and
Tim David especially sort of standout. And I know it's
you know, we're talking about a guy who's quite young
and he's coming into his own.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
But I really do firmly believe that he could play
to the level of those guys.
Speaker 10 (34:30):
And you know, he's recently had some exposure playing in
the IPL for the Mumbai Indians and you know, a
guy that hasn't even played for New Zealand, but to
be recognized with a big franchise like that, you can,
you know, probably probably really understand that he does have
a skill set that you could set him aside and
be a will you know, will beating star. And it's
really nice to see a guy like that come through
and you know, be someone that we can use in
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the New Zealand side.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Gee, another one, Finn Allen after what he's been doing
over in the States. You know what Tim Sichet can
do with the ball as well. Glenn Phillips as a monster.
Now we can add Bevan Jacobs to it. This is
like all the fun of the circus and fun of
the nets, mate.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Yeah, no, it's really good. Like he's quite tough to
bolt to as well.
Speaker 10 (35:13):
Like I've been able to go out there and play
again against him a few times and so it's always
quite quite challenging to bolt to him.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Darcy, And from now on and he said he will
be thirty two. He is never going to age. I'm
very sorry about that. East. This is coming from someone
who's nearly at level fifty six. I feel your pain.
Coming up next on the program that we are going
to talk to Evan Lee, Hurricanes super rugby team, Chief
executive officer. Hurricanes have set up a trade me auction
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with a lot of awesome, awesome content to pick up
the wider squad players. Partner's been diagnosed with a rare
and very aggressive cancer. The Hurricanes want to purchain and help.
I want you to help too. Find out the details
of Avonlea. Up next here on news Talks B seven
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fifty one, we're talking now with Evan Lee, chief executive
officer of the Hurricane. So they're doing a fundraiser. They've
got an auction running. To give us the details and
why are we joined now by Avan? Fill the details
in for us, mate.
Speaker 10 (36:26):
Yeah, mate.
Speaker 7 (36:27):
We've got Nui Middleways in a wider training group and
his partner, Midiana Ps is twenty years old and just
been diagnosed for very rare form of ovarian cancer which
affects one in ten million women and it's very aggressive.
So she's been told she's got a couple of months
to live and there are options with expensive medication or
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travel to the US, and they're not sure which way
it's going to go yet they're taking advice. So yeah,
I just thought, how can the Hurricanes help. Nui's a
lovely guy and Midiana they're a lovely couple. So how
can we use our platform to support them? Because if
you're fifty or sixty getting cancer, you're absolutely devastated, you know,
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happening to a twenty year.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Old, it's just horrendous.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
So yeah, we just wanted to weigh in.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
Behind it, and I've called some very humble and loyal
Hurricanes players who've donated amazing items.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
It's just heart wrenching. I had a describe likely twenty
years old, my daughter's twenty five years it's so close
and it at you it was one in ten million chance.
I wow. So as far as this this is an auction,
how's it being run? How do people get involved in?
What kind of booty can they pack up? Because look
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it's about fundraising, but also for the pool room too.
There's some probably expect quite valuable items. There have them?
Speaker 7 (37:58):
Yes, there are, I mean you know, we're trying to
raise as much as we can for them, and we've
started trading me auction. What can obviously look on trade me.
There's some fantastic items. We've got test match jerseys worn
by Tyl Lomax and Brad Shields. We've got an All
Blacks jersey from Dane Cole's. Possibly the biggest item is
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the twenty four person corporate box for the All Blacks
South Africa Test in September in Wellington, donated by Sky Stadium,
so you know that's going to fetch a big number
in itself. And we've got some other cool things like
and have lunch with the All Blacks or some of
the All Blacks out the Hurricanes, some signed jerseys, golf
(38:44):
with Jordi Barrett and Christian Cullen, you know. So it's
really cool, it's quite unique. We don't normally do this
kind of thing, but I think when you see something
like this you really just want help and sort of
everybody's swung behind my mad idea and you know, donated
gifts and items and just helped out with the marketing
(39:07):
and every other thing. So yeah, it feels really good,
but it's a very sad situation that we are trying
to play a little part and helping.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
It says a lot about the respect and the adoha
that the team in the district have for Nui and Madiana,
doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
It does?
Speaker 7 (39:25):
Yeah, I mean enough from the sort of originate from
the Wai Catau and you know this friends and Fanno
up there that are kind of blown away by what
we're trying to do. But you know, to be perfectly honest,
it's actually really simple thing. We've made a few phone
calls and got a few auction items and just want
to sort of do our berth really so you know
(39:45):
we've got a platform to do it, so why not Evan.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
People want to engage trade me? What's the title? How
do they find this option?
Speaker 7 (39:53):
If you search Hurricanes trade me, you'll you'll get to it.
And there's also a give a Little page for Midiana pis.
But we've got details on our website too, so if
you can't find either of those, thanks, just jump on
our website.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Thanks Avan, thanks for joining us. And if you do
want to contribute, you want to have a look at
the auction on trade me or jump on to the
give a Little page. Just go to Hurricanes dot co
dot in Z and there you'll find the links to
the trading auction, to the give a Little page as well.
(40:30):
You know, you think having a bad day and the
world's up against you and something like this happens, and wow,
it's hard for it and twenty years old. This it's
aggressive form of a varying cancer one in ten million women.
(40:52):
Apparently that treatment she needs cost an average of sixty
to seventy thousand dollars for every four doses. I think
it's fantastic. At the Hurricanes, the members the players are
all standing up to say we want to help a
(41:13):
corporate box or two Hurricanes legends at the All Blacks
South Africa Test on September the thirteenth, twenty four people,
you can offer something for that in the auction. Test
match worn jersey donated by a Trell Lomax in this
thirty ninth Test, a Test match warn jersey by Brad
Shields and an All Black jerseys signed by Dane Coles
around a goal for Jordi Barrett Christian Cullen. Five fully
(41:36):
signed Marvel jerseys from each of the New Zealand based
h Elsea Very Pacific teams. Lunch with three of the Aracans,
all Blacks and Wellington Hurricanes Heritage Jersey. There's a lot
up for grabs that this trade meet auction and it's
all for a wonderful cause. Get in there, have a look,
have a bid. We'll jump to Mediana's give a little
(41:59):
page and see if you can help out. I said
from us here tonight News Talks there, Thanks very much
for listening, Thanks for texting. I won't say thanks for
all the calls because one of them was as dice
as they come, but that's all right as people for
you any duff, Thanks for reducing for the very last time.
(42:20):
Love your work mate and Darcy auto Grave. I'm gone.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
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