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an actual in season game, will be at the MCG
in October of twenty twenty six, and there'll be more
matches played at the venue over the seasons that followed.
How big is this for the sport of American football
in this part of the world. GM of American Football
New Zealand Russell McConkey is with us shortly on. This
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In a coup for fans of the NFL in this
part of the world that's American football, Melbourne will host
up to three regular season games from next year. The
Herald Sun reporting the La Rams and Philadelphia Eagles, which
are the two franchises with Australian marketing rights, are set
to face off in October twenty twenty six. The Rams
won the Super Bowl in twenty twenty two, and the
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Philadelphia Eagles, of course, are in the fifty ninth edition,
which is a week today again the Kansas City Chiefs.
Australian superstar Jordan Malata is a key player for the Eagles.
He would be a massive drawcard now. The NFL's twenty
twenty four schedule featured matches in London, three of them
one in Brazil won in Germany. As the NFL continues
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to take the game to all parts of the world.
Next season, they'll be a game at Real Madrid's iconic
Santiago Bernabout Stadium in Spain for the first time. The
NFL has been expanding its international presence in recent years.
In fact, owners of all of the teams voted in
December twenty twenty three to authorize the league to host
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eight games internationally each season. So NFL to Melbourne. What
does this mean, Let's bring in GM of American Football
New Zealand Russell mcconachie Russell. The NFL is coming down under.
How big is this news?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Well, yeah, it's great. They're bringing games down. They've actually
been here in Australian New them for the last couple
of years, working in intermediate and junior secondary schools, so
they're preparing the ground, getting their fan base worked up.
It's been an amazing story.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I guess, coming down and running camps and things like
that and getting the word out as one thing, but
actually bringing NFL regular season games here as an entirely
different matter. What do the NFL see in terms of
the Australian market or any of the markets that they
take the games too?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Well? The obvious one is are there players that are
capable of being in the NFL. I mean, it's a
well documented thing that the Australian rules kickers have made
a difference to the school the universities there in the
way in which they play. We also have the largest
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population of Polynesia and Australia and New Zealand, and yeah,
big men are there. So there's that aspect of it,
and there's also growing the fan base worldwide. They already
are in Europe, they have been there for quite some time,
so this is just an extension, not just it's an
extension of that.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I guess they could just sit there in the United States,
couldn't they, Russell. I mean, it's a massive game over there.
Let's not try to get away from that. It's huge
over there. They could just sit there and enjoy sort
of lapping it up on their own shores. What do
you think there is this ambition to spread the NFL
message internationally.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I think it's to do with growth of the game,
growth of the fan base. I mean, football has been
I guess part of the news around the concussion issues
that are plague in contact sport, and I think they're
seeing a little bit of a hat on their player
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base at the NFL. I don't think they see that
because there's just so, as you say, so many numbers.
But again, if the need to grow your fan base
is still important worldwide, you know here in New Zealand,
American football is the first fourth post consumed sport television
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rights and just viewership, so they want to capitalize on that.
They want to bring the experience closer to their fans.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
How suitable will the MCGB as an American football venue?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Well, that's interesting. I think it'll be okay. I mean
one of the things that that they want is a
fan experience. The MCG is an oval, there'll be a
bit of ground. I guess it'll be like Eden Park. Yes,
the capacity will be greater and they'll be looking to
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fill that up. Obviously, the promoters will want that filled up.
They'll be Will there be flights from New Zealand? Charter
flights from New Zealand taking fans across might be?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You have to imagine there would be. I god, imagine
there be a few people who you mix with Russell
who would be kind to hop a board and get
across to Melbourne for a slice of the action. The
fourth most consumed sport here in New Zealand. Did you say, yeah,
what's interesting?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Is that being driven by a younger demographic.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I don't have the deal. I don't believe. So I
looked at the demo demographics some time ago, and it's
not the it's the I want to say, it's the
twenty to thirty five year twenty five to thirty five
year olds that are big. I mean every time I
talk to somebody, though, they tell me what their team
is and then then admit that they're a football tragic.
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So you know, Jason, what's your team?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well, my son's a big Minnesota Vikings fan, so almost
by default I'm on board the Vikings. I only asked
about the young people really through my own experience as
Russell my son and all of his friends are mad
keen on the NFL. So I just wondered whether it's
something to do with playing Madden for example, playing Fantasy NFL,
all of that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Well, yes it is, but it's also now the accessibility
of the non contact version of the game. The barriers
to entry in New Zealand and Australia is a lot
of times of the equipment, fields and officials, but the
flag football version, which is non contact, smaller sides, smaller fields,
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shorter game hugely populate. It's growing the sport massively worldwide
and the NFL are helping to drive that by getting
in at the junior levels and preparing the players with
the awareness of the junior levels.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Tell us about the growth of flag football here, how
that's driving your overall numbers, the growth on the health
of NFL early here in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Well, in twenty eighteen there are around seven hundred registered players.
Now there's at least double that. We've doubled those numbers,
but that's not all of the stories. There's probably around
five or six thousand players the school based, community based
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just in competitions and tournaments and deliveries and schools. So
if you take our national championships for flag football, we
don't run one for tackle because there aren't enough teams
and we'd have to play for weeks. Tackle is Running
a tournament for tackle would be difficult, but for flag
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in twenty twenty we had ten teams at our nationals
in one division. Last year we had forty one teams
and four divisions. This year we're going to have any
more even more. So, Yeah, we're struggling with the right
kind of problem. Cool growth.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Absolutely absolutely, Have you got a Super Bowl pick for
us before we go.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Kansas?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It has to be You almost said it reluctantly, Russell,
I think most Neutrals would like the Eagles to win,
wouldn't they.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, yeah, but you know I was, I was, who
was I watching the Gronk the other night on an interview.
For the last two years he's picked the other side,
not the Okay, see, in this year he's just saying, well,
it's got to be. It just has to be. So
I'm going with the Gronk all right.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Well, a week from now we'll know. But we've got
ANYFL close to home to look forward to, hopefully from
the back end of next year. Russell, It's an exciting
time for the sport here. Thanks for joining us for
a bit of a chat.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Thank you, Jason, appreciate having a bit of time to
promote the sport.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Good to have you on, Russell. Thanks indeed, GM of
American Football New Zealand. Russell mcconachie, you've heard from Russell.
Can you get your thoughts on a couple of things there,
NFL and Melbourne. First of all, just across the ditch
just a short hop. Are you in a eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty would singing an NFL game not
a not an exhibition game? But a proper regular season
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NFL game be piquing your interest. I can tell you
there's already a bit of excitement in my house. My
son is a massive NFL fan, so he's keen to go.
What about it your place? And does what Russell McConochie
said there about NFL being so widely consumed here resonate
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with you. The fourth most consumed sport in New Zealand,
he said, there came as a surprise to me at
to check, but yes, and it also came as a
surprise that it was being driven by twenty five to
thirty five year olds. I thought it would be younger
because American sports, not just NFL, but the NBA, Major
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League Baseball, ice hockey, all of those American sports are
huge with teenagers. Their social media is full of it.
And I have to say those sports do a great
job of promoting through social media and also through fantasy.
You know, you get to you get to pick your
team and you know you're not Fantasy is got a
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Super Rugby Fantasy coming soon. And in gaming, Madam, I
think was the NFL one I mentioned to Russell there.
I know my son, he's seventeen. I know my son
would not sit down to watch an All Blacks test,
but he'll watch game after game of the NFL, or
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a show called Red Zone where they've got a bunch
of games on the screen at the same time and
a bloke they're doing the commentary or the narration, and
they just go to the one which is most exciting
when points points are about to be scored. In the
red Zone. You can see I'm a little bit of
an outsider. The terminology might be not quite right. I
am a bit older, but my son just absolutely love it,
loves it and the NBA. So what's your experience of
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the penetration of American sport into our sporting landscape? Our
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Russell just said, then
we've all got an NFL team? Is that true? It's funny.
I think, you know, I move in football circles and
it used to be said like everyone's got a Premier
league team, and I think that was probably true for
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a while. And now I guess our sites can go
wider and people aren't just you know, that's all we
used to get over here was big League soccer for
an hour on a Sunday. That was the only only
football or soccer as we called it back then that
we got the chance to see. But now it's you know,
far and wide. I'm just very very keen to hear
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if it's something that has grabbed you. I know a
lot of people find it difficult to watch because there
are so many stoppages, and that's been but of a
theme on text already, no excitement at all. It's just
stop and start. But on that which all black would
make it in the NFL, Yeah, there's go'll be a
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few who'd make it. In a kicking sense. That's an
odd job, isn't it. You just come on to kick,
and they make millions of dollars. The best ones I
don't even have to go into, you know, they never
have to. They're probably never touched by another person, but
they they make millions of dollars just by kicking. Can I, Paul?
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Can I?
Speaker 6 (14:40):
How you going good?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Paul?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Are you an NFL fan?
Speaker 7 (14:45):
I'm not.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
But there's a guy at work who's ride in that
five zone. He works for me, and he's asked for
half day on Monday.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Ah, yes, super Bowl, super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
And my daughter's just gone to live in the US
and she's living in Oregon and her first taste of
American popball was the Seahawks against the Vikings, and she
loved the experience, picked out ground.
Speaker 8 (15:15):
The works.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
She's probably spent a bit too much time in the club,
but she really enjoyed it. I think she was in
the bleachers and it was freezing cold, but she loved
every moment. And I was on the phone tour the
other day and she said, Oh, I've gotta go at
three o'clock.
Speaker 9 (15:34):
We're about.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Love it, love it. Yeah, it's it is a I
had the opportunity there was last year year before lust
to go to a game in Washington, and Yeah, the
game day experience, as is the case with a lot
of American in fact, all the American sports ball is terrific.
You know, when there's a stoppage in an NFL game,
and there are lots of them there for the commercials
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on TV, but in game there's always something happening on
the big screen, whether it's a competition or they're introducing
a former player, or something's happening all the time. You
don't it takes three or four hours, but it doesn't
seem like it drags at all.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Yeah, no with you. One of your comments, you said,
your son, yeah, I couldn't get out of bes for
an all Blacks game. But I think you know my
daughter's a same but she's loving the football.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Great stuff, Paul, yep, Well did you did you grant
your did you grant your worker the half day?
Speaker 6 (16:28):
I said to him, you don't need to put it
on this annual aid. Just take a bak because you
work hard.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
You're a good man. Paul, You're a good man. That's
the way employers should be good on your mate. I
appreciate you, thanks for the call. Are eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty? Do you think we could ever see
games at Eden Park?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Well?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I guess so. What they say read eight They take
eight internationally a year, so they want bang for their
buck when they take a game to places. And presumably
the reason they're looking at the MCG is capacity. What
does that hold for ninety thousand? They would expect to
fill that. I know when Liverpool came the English football
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team a few years back, they filled the MCG, no problem,
ninety thousand. In fact, for some of the Liverpool players
it was the biggest crowd they'd ever played in front of.
Because Premier League grounds aren't that big. Some of the
big European ones are. But I remember reading afterwards that
for a lot of the Liverpool players, they'd never played
in front of ninety thousand people before Mike's idgarf my
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forty nine ers were playing well, they might, they might.
There's been a huge change, says Peter, in New Zealand
society in the past twenty years. Many people under sixty
now look to the USA for everything, including entertainment, sport, politics,
and American English is now the language of choice for
the under sixties. As a boomer, our parents looked to
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England for everything, and we rebelled against that and asserted
our New Zealandish. So it's sad to see that we're
the only generation to want to be Kiwi's. Interesting point
you make, their Peter. I'm not sure that just because
we like amera sports and television shows and music means
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we're not proud to be Kiwi's. But I definitely take
the point that you're making. Kevin says Piney. I'm a
rugby addict boomer, but I'm all in on the NFL
Melbourne here I come, by the way, go the Chiefs. Yeah,
Chiefs Eagles. A week today in Super Bowl OH eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty, Robert says, what is your says?
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What is your LFL team? That could be a typo? Robert?
Is it that could be a TYPEO? My l EFL
team unless it's a league I've never heard of? Do
you mean my NFL team? I said to rustle it.
I'm a I'm a Minnesota Vikings fan. Really by default
that's my son's team. And I just jumped on board that.
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Brad makes a good point. Of all the grounds in
the world, the MCG would be the worst to watch INFL.
It's a capacity money grab. Yeah, Brad, you make a
very interesting point that I've heard a few times today
with regard to this, that NFL is played on rectangular
fields and they're quite narrow. The mcg's a big oval.
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Even when you play rugby there, you're miles away. It's
a bit like it's by like Aden Park, isn't it
sky Stadium. I don't have a lot of rectangular grounds here,
but I guess if you're going too rectangular grounds, your
limiting capacity. All the big ones on both sides of
the Tasman really are oval so I'm almost certain that's
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the reason why they've chosen the MCGS because of its capacity,
and Melbourne or those involved in tourism Melbourne, whatever their
tourism armor is called, of no doubt approach the NFL
when they've seen that games are being taken to the
likes of London and Madrid, Germany other places and said, hey,
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we've got a big stadium here, ninety come on down, hey, Conrad,
just a bit of dances.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
If I remember about ten years ago, I think it
was you maybe said the AFL are having a couple
of games of the Capstone, and is this going to
be a game changer? And I'm trying to get at
the novelty factor of things. They kind of worked the
first couple of years, and then there's a kind of
I mean maybe because it's so then obvious people then
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will then compere with say the NRL, which is an
awesome product, and say, well, maybe it's you know, the
novelty wears off.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, it's a good point, Conrad. I think I do
remember saying something along those lines. I remember when a
couple of AFL games came here that kind of stopped
fairly quick. Smart didn't. They had a couple of games
came and then decided it wasn't it wasn't worth it,
and that's all kind of fizzled out, Hasn't it so reversed?
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Because we've tried to get cracked and runty off the
ground at UFA and the ib everything, and they're still
struggling after thirty ideas of coming money into that. So
what's wrong with the Americans struggling to get down under
in their native art? I mean, I just think the
I mean baseball they.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Tried as well.
Speaker 8 (21:12):
I think in Australia and New Zealand, who really get
that going? Yeah, and just about a generational thing. I
remember the first of all, I am, I'm all in
on New Zealand sports, and I'm all in nine QI
and I'm forty seven, so I'm not still i am
under sixties. But I just want to say this, there's
a generational thing. I mean, when I was a teenager
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in the nineties, Dungeons and Dragons was the whole rage,
and there was bars we can speak doing Dungeons and
Dragons and you might say to be a game changer,
and yeah, and remember the Yeah, I mean, I know
that's not sport. But I'm just going about fair that's all, okay,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, no, I got on your current. No, you make
a good point. And and maybe that will be it.
It'll be a novelty occasion. Uh And and they'll come
for a few years and that might be it, and
then they might decide to go somewhere else. And there's
any number of places I'm sure who would would take them.
Of Asian markets, I've got no doubt there'll be a
game in Saudi Arabia at some point. So yeah, so
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maybe it is just a you know, one two, three
year thing and then it's done. And then obviously rules
was interesting. There were two or three games here from memory,
and they talked about it being a long term thing
and how it would be ongoing and you know, maybe
one day would have a New Zealand team and the
you know in the AFL won't happen. I don't think,
and I don't think the aim here is to ever,
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of course not we're not going to have a team
in the NFL, but maybe it just exposes you know,
kids to something different. And you know, NFL is massive
in the US, much bigger than any of the other
sports in terms of viewer numbers. When you stack up
the most viewed sporting events in the United States through history,
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some crazy number of them are Super Bowl games. Just astonishing,
eye watering numbers. That's why you pay so much for
a commercial as the Christyurich Stadium Rectangular asks Mars. Yes
it is, but only holds thirty thousand, So again, capacity
probably going to be the issue there. Seven thirty on
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the Dot, let's take a break. We're going to stay
in the States because this massive basketball story broke yesterday
regarding a trade between two superstars of the game. It
was such a surprise that most people thought that there'd
been a mistake, that the person who was breaking this
story had been hacked on their social media, but no,
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it was real. More on this in a moment when
we head stateside on Sports.
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Speaker 2 (23:53):
Sa'd be seven thirty three from Leon in Melbourne. Hey, Pineers,
you know I'm all over this. I'm a subscriber of
the Herald Sun Daily here and the breaking story was
splashed all over the front page yesterday. It seemed almost
inevitable when the news came out last year. The NFL
is setting up a base on the Gold Coast as
a pathway for prospective players if anything legalized. Gambling on
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sports in America is one of the biggest factors driving
the expansion of the NFL, and its reach is now
seemingly unstoppable. How's this for a stat. Forty eight of
the fifty highest rating TV programs in America last year
were prime time NFL games, with the recent AFC and
NFC championship games pulling in over fifty million viewers for
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each game. Now those are the games, obviously, the winners
of which go to the Super Bowl. Its paul is huge,
says Leon, and viewers around the world now can't seem
to get enough of the product. Can't wait for next
October here in Melbourne. Thanks Leon. Always good to hear
from you, mate. Twenty six to eight, one of the
biggest basketball stories in recent memory broke yesterday in one
of the most extraordinary trades in NBA history. Twenty five
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year old Dallas Mavericks franchise cornerstone Luka Doncic has been
traded to the Los Angeles Lakers, who in turn, have
traded ten times NBA All Star thirty one year old
center Anthony Davis back to the Mavericks. It would be
fair to say the scent shock waves through the NBA
and much further afield. Let's get you some insight on this.
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Trevor Lane, as host of Lakers Nation, the number one
Lakers news and rumor site on the planet eight hundred
and forty three thousand followers and also the NBA Front
Office show, he joins us. Now, Trevor, is this the
biggest NBA trade of all time?
Speaker 4 (25:41):
I think it's up there.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
I mean, we'd have to be going back to the
seventies when Kareem abdul Jabar got traded to the Lakers
as well, back way back then, I think to find
something that was at least as shocking as this trade was.
No one saw this coming to the point where when
the report came out, no one believed it. Everyone thought
it was fake, that someone had been hacked. But no,
actually it is real. It happened. And I mean this
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sets off which should be a really eventful NBA trade deadline.
And here we go, Luca to La.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Why would the Dallas Mavericks have given up Luka Doncic.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
So from what my understanding is that they didn't want
to give a super max contract to Luca this coming summer.
They were concerned about his conditioning and they feared that
if they didn't want to give him the super max
contract that they were eligible to give him, that he
might ask out. There were already teams lining up to
potentially sign him in twenty twenty six in free agency,
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and they worried that it would be a contentious break
up this coming summer and they would be put in
a spot where they wouldn't be able to recoup the
kind of assets they.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Wanted on the trade front. They just wouldn't have leverage.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
So they in their minds, they're getting ahead of it
and getting this done now and getting the.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Player that they really wanted in Anthony Davis.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
How have Dallas Mavericks fans reacted to this?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Not well? They have not reacted well. They have been
they have not been happy. I've yet to.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
Find a Mavericks fan, and I'm sure they're out there,
but I've yet to see a Mavericks fan that is
happy about the trade. A lot of MAVs fans very
upset and they are I mean protesting outside of the
American Airlines Arena and all kinds of things all over
social media about Nico Harrison, the MAVs general manager. They
are not happy with this, with this move that sends
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Luca to La So the.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Likeers, I've gained Luka Doncic, I've lost Anthony Davis, a
team time All Star. A total sum win for the Likes, though,
isn't it?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
It is?
Speaker 7 (27:40):
It may be a setback this year because now the
problem is their roster is horribly unbalanced. They don't have
any centers aside from Jackson Hayes on their rosters, so
there are still moves to be made. So there's things
that have to happen still for this to be a
total win for this current season, and they've gotten till
the Thursday trade de Mine to make those things happen.
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But over the long haul, yes, a massive win for
the Lakers. They had a future of uncertainty with an
aging Anthony Davis Lebron James getting ready to write off
into the sunset at some point in the near future,
and then the question was going to be who is
the next star for the Lakers. Now they have that
question answered, they can move forward with certainty that their
superstar for the next decade they hope is going to
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be Luka Doncic.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
This concept of tribes is a bit foreign to us
down here in New Zealand, Treva. How much would h V,
Luka Doncic and Anthony Davis have known about this?
Speaker 7 (28:34):
Well, in most cases these players are informed of that
their name is in trade talks.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
They have some kind of knowledge.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Particularly for star level players, Teams tend to pay them
that courtesy, that respect to say, hey, just say you know,
we're having these conversations, this is what's going on, this
is what could happen, so it doesn't catch them by surprise.
But in this case, the teams were so concerned about secrecy.
They didn't want the word getting out there about it.
They didn't want a lot of rumors and things starting
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about this this situation. They really kept it towards just
the general manager from each team ownership.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
That was about all who knew about the trade.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
And so all the reportings suggest Anthony Davis, Luca and
Lebron James indeed as well, they were all blindsided by
it and surprised just last night when the trade went down.
But that's not typical. Typically players there at least giving a.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Little bit of a heads up.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
Oftentimes we even see a player their agent will will
cooperate with the team to help them figure out where
the next landing spot will be.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
But this one was one that was kept very, very quiet.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Lebron James will welcome Luka Doncic to the like as
he loses Anthony Davis. How do you assass his mindset
over this? Will he be happy with what's plight.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
At he Well, the word was that he was very
surprised that it went down.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
The reporting is that he will not allow himself to
be traded.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
He has a no trade clause, so he will not
drop that in order to be traded by the Thursday
trade deadline. So he prefers to remain as a Los
Angeles Laker. He has the ability to make sure that
is the CA and that's what he will do. He
has praised Luca for years now, years and years and years.
He has called himself a fan of Luca's game, so
I believe that he does want to play with Luca.
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That said, he will He'll miss Anthony Davis, who has
been his running made here his partner in crime for
the last five six seasons here with the Lakers, so
I know if they'd catch him by surprise and there'll
be some shock, there'll be some adjustment. But again, he
is a longtime fan of Luka Doncic, so I think
the opportunity to do that will ultimately smooth things over
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any kind of uncomfortable situations or awkwardness with Lebron and.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Anthony Davis is a good ply letas don't forget that.
But how long will he have to bring a championship
to Dallas?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (30:51):
Anthony Davis is phenomenal, one of the best defensive players
in the NBA. He has been incredible this He hit
a forty point and twenty rebound plus game in his
final performance for the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
He is fantastic. The problem is he's going to be.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
Third, turning thirty two in March, teaming up with Kyrie Irving,
who is also over thirty.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
So we're realistically talking about probably a.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
Three year window, maybe four year window for this MAVs team.
They also have an older Klay Thompson on the team,
but Anthony Davis will get to play power forward a
lot more. The MAVs have much more center depth than
the Lakers have and that's something that Anthony Davis has
talked about wanting to do, to be able to play
power forward instead of center, So the MAVs will give
him the opportunity to do just that. This is a
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good MAVs team that is really well balanced now with
Anthony Davis in the makes, and they should be a
great defensive team with the addition of Anthony Davis as
well as Max Christi, who is really coming into his
own for the Lakers, and now he's sent out in
this trade. So the MAVs window probably about three years
maybe four, which really, I mean that's a lifetime in
the NBA, so they still will get a good run
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with this.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yere all right? Just to finish trivia, does this kind
of prove that, apart from the likes of Lebron who's
got the no trade clause, that no one is untradeable?
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Really?
Speaker 7 (32:05):
I mean it really like the NBA, there's just so
many crazy things that have happened over the years that
no one would ever predict, I mean this being the craziest,
but still yeah, I mean, this was such a shock
that anything now moving forward, where people would normally say.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Well, that'll never happen. This is going to be the
example that people point to you and say.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
Well, but know what, But we always said this kind
of thing, Luca being traded would never happen, and yet
it did. You just never know in the NBA, and
it's part of what we love about this league.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
There's always surprises around every corner.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
We greatly appreciate your insight and your expertise. Treva. Thanks
so much for joining us across New Zealand tonight.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Hey, no problem. Thank you so much for having.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Me now, thanks for joining us, Treva. Treva laying there
host of like his nation's, he said, such a busy
twenty four hours. I hit a lot of a lot
of my basketball friends and a lot of my colleagues
here at news talks. He'd be sport actually were all
over the shees today And that was as Triva just said. Then,
that was the initial fault, that somebody had been hacked,
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that somebody's social media account had been hacked, Because this
seemed so fanciful, so unlikely, particularly from the Dallas Mavericks
point of view. They've given up a twenty five year
old Luka Doncich. Even if you don't follow NBA I'm
sure you've heard the name. He was likely to be
their cornerstone for the next ten years. Instead, he's now
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likely to be the LA Lakers cornerstone for the next decade.
Across he goes Anthony Davis, who, as Treva just said
it is a very very very good player, goes to Dallas,
but he's thirty one, so his window is much shorter,
and again, as Trevors said, good to get some analysis
from him, three or four week years probably for Anthony Davis,
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Kyrie Irving who's at the Mavericks and the others to
bring an NBA title to Dallas. Meantime, Luka Doncich is
across at the Lakers, teaming up with Lebron James and others,
and as likely to be the man you see on
posters and that yellow singlet, that famous yellow singlet for
a long long time to come. Look throw could you
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could Zealand? I knew you wanted to.
Speaker 10 (34:21):
Yeah, if I could throw a New Zealand view in
there to sort of give the context of its imagine.
We're in the year two thousand and six, right, and
the All Blacks have the ability to trade Dan Carter,
and they trade Dan Carter in the year two thousand
and six for George Gregan. That's that's the level of
trade that Dallas has pulled off there. They've got a
good player in return, but they have absolutely mortgaged their
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future on it.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
That's a very good comparison. So Dan Carter off the
back of the Lions to a hair so good against
a guy who, yeah, is good, but a lot older.
It's a good comparison. That's a very good way of
us grasping it. Andy, I knew that you were here
for a reason. Thank you, Andrew. It's a quarter to
eight when come back. By his Power rankings, Ladies, our
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rankings Monday night can only mean one thing. Well, it
means a few things, but it also means Piney's Power
Rankings as we rate the best, the worst and the
in between. Bits from the Sporting Weekend, The hapless, hopeless,
helpless Welsh rugby team, the cross kick and Gayton's waiting
(35:30):
for it.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
He's only been on a match of seconds and France have.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Another try the vision of woman and Tomac. It is
becoming a demonstration. Forty three nil. Wales lost that one
to France thirteen straight defeats. Their last win was it
the twenty twenty three Rugby World Cup. Nine Israel Adisonya
a surprise defeat to Frenchman Narsadene Imeovov. In his return
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to the octagon, he wins the biggest bat of his life.
Speaker 9 (36:04):
He topples the former champion one shot.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
To kill a legend.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
That was unbelievable. Eight the women's ashes, A demolition job
from Australia are stop taken.
Speaker 11 (36:19):
The moment arrives for Australia and Alana King a maiden five.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
At the MCJSE.
Speaker 11 (36:27):
You'll be on the on a board Australia comprehensive from
start to finish.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Come twenty seven the Breakers I had a win.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Seven point deficent for the Snake Moody with a massive
three big one mooney off lights at the King and
the New Zealand Bikers return to the winner's list.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, but too little, too late. Unfortunately they will finish
this season though at home against Ellawara on Wednesday night.
Speaker 11 (36:58):
Six.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Auklan FC another one, another late goal to Breece is
crossing is always quality. I came, didn't get It's the
Lague Knights again and this time it's lovely A Shunner
with his firsday League means goal and I can go
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to one ahead and one at two one top of
the A League by five points five our Super Smash Champions,
the Blazers has been.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
A superb defense and it's going to be a title
winning defense as well. And merely Kerk gets the last touch.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Of the game, hugs all rounds. They rushing from all
corners and they are back to Bagtree Livens Super Smash Champions.
What a team they are. And the Stags backs off
and hits it for four and wins the tournament. Easy
the ways you're offside.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Nice shot from a nice young fire does the.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Trink for the Stags. They've been the four team, They've
been the best team four. New Zealand cyclist Alie Wallaston.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Rider in the purple jersey, goes but here comes Ali Wallaston,
he comes Ali Willison in the new colors of f
DJ Suez.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Nobody's going to come close, Nobody's going to be able
to challenge.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
And is Ali Wallerston who wins.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
The Cat Eleven's Great Ocean Road Race.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
What a start is being for the New Zealand rider
and a new team of f.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
DJ sewez Ellie Walliston sprinting clear of a powerful field
to clinch her first Oil Tour title at the cadel
Evans road Race near Melbourne. Three three is total on
a teenager, Sam Ruth, the youngest man to win a
national senior track and field title at the Potts Classic,
and Hastings.
Speaker 9 (38:45):
Junia crowns onto the shoulder A holy signal. Here comes
Sam Ruth, running thirteen in time at the age of fourteen.
The crowd rises to their feet.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
What awaiting here today? Hastings?
Speaker 9 (38:59):
He got somewhere.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
He takes the national title.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Samru take that bow.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Incredible seven minutes fifty six point one eight seconds in
the three thousand meters world best for his age group.
Remember the name Sam Ruth. Two, We know the name.
Zoey Sadowski Senate wins in consecutive weekends for our winter
Olympic champion. A World Cup victory this morning in the
slope style and Aspen.
Speaker 9 (39:24):
Absolutely whopper on the backside, double cork ten eighty at
the bottom.
Speaker 11 (39:30):
Now this will be interesting.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Eighty seven point eight. Yeah, Sadowski Senate overhauling Kokomo Mourace
with a score of eighty seven point eight in her
final run to win gold, but she's not number one.
That goes to Chris Wood. He just keeps on counting
up the goals.
Speaker 9 (39:50):
Hell and this.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Service Chris Wood who gets it charging forward now for
Forest still.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Go w.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Their mistake.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
It's a hat trick for him this afternoon, and not
to good Forest half five.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
They end up getting seven seventeen for Chris Wood. Incredible.
Did you take two thousand and six? Dan Carter deserved
a place in the power rankings tonight?
Speaker 10 (40:24):
Well no not there's well, well outside of the time frame, Pinery,
we only do it on the weekend. Anyway, Before we
move on, I want to mention Wales because they actually
have a fan that, before the Six Nations started, agreed
to run a mile for every point they lose by
in a game. So bear credit to him. Yes, sort
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of dumping this on you last minute here, Piney, but
he's he actually set out for a forty three mile
run this morning, so you play to him goodness for
the churation of the Six Nations. So I hope it's
for charity, because otherwise more reason for the welshrugby team
to be last. If they're doing that to their fans,
they're poor fans.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Well, he'll be foot at the end of the Six Nations.
He'll be fighting fast from marathon after every Welsh game.
At this rate, that is a very gutsy thing to do.
Are those are Pinty's power rankings? They're back again next
Monday night six to eight, three and a half to eight.
Mussas Pinet, why don't you do that every time the
Hurricanes lose? And I'll do it for the Chiefs. Name
your charity. I don't mind it, actually, mus especially last year,
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took ages for the Hurricanes to lose. Last year. The
lost of the Rumbies by eight that's manageable, to the
Blues by four points. That's manageable four k. They lost
to the Chiefs, as you'll know, in the semi final
by eleven points. Leging going out the day after the
Hurricanes lose in the semi final, heven to run eleven k.
I'll take it under advisement, muzz I. Haven't a really
got a lot of time it starts. When does it start?
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Next week? I might give that a go. Thanks for
listening in, Thanks to any McDonald for producing Marcus lash
Is on your radio after eight o'clock. I'm back on
weekend Sport on Saturday. Looking forward to that. Have an
excellent week, See US SAT.
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