March 31, 2025 • 42 mins
Jason Pine returns to recap a full day in the world of sport! Highlights for tonight include:
All Black Damian McKenzie on his decision to stay with NZR until 2029.
Lex Revell-Lewis on breaking the 400m record with historic sub 46-sec run.
Piney's power rankings!
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on Monday evening, March thirty won Happy birthday, Hashim Ambler.
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Speaker 3 (00:53):
Now here's some space mackenzie's flight. How appropriate, Damien mackenzie over?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
That might be enough for the Cheeks to win it
sixty one Test All Blacks playmaker Amien McKenzie has recommitted
to New Zealand Rugby through to the end of the
twenty twenty nine season. The man himself is standing by
to chat to us. Surely then, I'm keen to hear
your views on where he fits into the All Blacks
picture this year and next year and in World Cup year.
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Also tonight, we have a new national record holder in
the men's four hundred meters. The previous record has stood
since nineteen ninety eight, but yesterday lex revel Lewis became
the first key we to go under forty six seconds,
clocking forty five point eighty eight at a meet in Melbourne.
He's with us tonight to reflect on that and Monday
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night of course means Piney's Power rankings as we rate
the best, the worst and the in between from the
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Speaker 1 (02:06):
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Speaker 4 (02:16):
So.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Damien McKenzie has recommitted to New Zealand Rugby the Chiefs
and White cut All for a further four years through
until twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Did you kick over the top end of the end
door no One's home Forgentina Sports in the in Dome,
Damien McKenzie to dry love my bouts for the All
Blacks number ten.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Damien McKenzie is with us. Congratulations on the contract extension, Damien.
Was this an easy decision to make or did you
have to mull over some other opportunities as well? Overseas
before you signed on the dotted line again.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah, thanks, Matte. Here was a well in the it
was a bit of an easy decision to step around
and recommit to the Chiefs in New Zealand. Rugby obviously
no place like home, and I think she's still got
a lot more to keep to both clubs. But yeah,
I guess during the process it did take a while.
I obviously had experience at a time season for a
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brief period of time around twenty twenty two, so yeah,
it was, it was. It did took a lot of
going back and forth. But in the end, yeah, it
ended up actually been quite an easy decision to around
to the.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Fact that you've had that time in Japan. Make it
easier to stay because you've done that already and scratch
that itch. Or in fact, did you think, hey, I
quite liked it over there. I wonder whether I should
go back.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I really love my time in Japan. I was awesome
to I guess, experience a different style of rugby, different culture,
and Japan's a great place and it was lucky enough
to be a part of a really cool, cool club
over there in Suntory, And so they thought of going
back was definitely on my mind. I guess the opportunity
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in New Zealand was. I guess one that I thought
I couldn't give up, And obviously both clubs have done.
So we've given so much with the chiefs in the
All Blacks and I feel like it's a great opportune
in the next two years and want to be a
part of it New Zealand. So yeah, like that opportunity
to go back to Japan really excited me. But I
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think I feel like I've still a little bit more
together news generate leadership.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So now the All Black with the longest contract nobody
else is beyond twenty twenty nine. How keen were you
to go beyond twenty twenty seven with the potential of
a Lions tour in twenty twenty nine, for example, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
It's obviously great to sign a long term deal with
the New Zealand Rugby and I guess the foot of
potentially being a part of a Lion series in twenty
twenty nine would be extremely exciting, But I guess he's
a lot of water to go under the bridge before
then and slip. We've got a big season this year
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and then is obviously the Spahika Tour next year and
then leading into a World Cup in twenty seven. So,
I mean, you know, the fact I've signed for four
years doesn't exactly. I mean, I'm just going to get
handed the opportunity to play field back. I know it's
going to take a bit of work over the next
few years, and that starts with the Chiefs and love
what we've got Garnet at the Chiefs at the moment,
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and then hopefully be there and bigger things come beyond that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It just on the Chiefs. How big a priority is
is it for you? How much you are you motivated
to win a Super Rugby championship or championships plural with
the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah, extremely motivated. Obviously been the Chiefs for a long
time now and it was hit them ups and down
definitely throughout my time with the Chiefs, and I guess
in the last couple of years we've been really close,
but I haven't been quite been able to climb that
last turtle. So yeah, extremely motivated to bring a championship
to the region, a club that's getting so much to me.
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We've obviously got a great crew here, very proud province,
proud region. So I mean, the least we can do
is try and bring your championship homes. It's been a
long time since we've been able to do that. Twenty
thirty it was the last time and we were able
to win a championship. So that's extremely motivating for myself
to try and help the Chiefs bring a title to
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the region.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
You've started the last two games for the Chiefs at
first five, the wins over the Blues and Marana Pacifica
the first three of the season at fallback. I know
you get asked this question a lot, but are you
still equally comfortable in either role or is first five
still your preference?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, I feel like I'm equally confident in both position.
Obviously focusing more on playing a lot of first five
at the Chiefs. Obviously very few games played with Josh
Jakin playing ten. He's a great, great young player. And
I guess now I Sean Bean back that with us.
That's allowed me to jump back into their ten role,
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and I guess the way we sort of the stole
week players been able to switch in between the boat.
But I think for myself moving forward, been able to
really command a spot and play ten and really drive
a team around the park as something in a part
of my game I'm always trying to work on, and
particularly if James beneath, even with the ortlax, playing especially
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playing ten is just you know, working on my craft
around my game management getting the team around the park
for eighty minutes. So the more I can do that
at ten, I guess then I can sort of shift
to fifteen there in the game, which is also very
exciting with a bit more space.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Absolutely, do you is there any danger do you think
of if you do, I guess, become a bit more
structured at first five, become a game driver. I guess
in a more traditional sense of a first five that
you might lose that that's superpower of yours to just
make things happen and broken play or do you feel
the two can go hand in hand.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yeah, it's probably just you know, picking the right moments
when it's on, to have a going when it's not.
And I guess, you know, that's something I pride myself on.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but I mean that's all.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Part of rugby.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
If you're willing to take the risk, you know, sometimes
it pays off, sometimes it might not. But I guess
it's just been a bit more consistent and the decisions
I'm making, and particularly once you get to a test
arena that the opportunities are a lot fewer, so making
sure a bit more accurate when it comes to a
Test rugby. But I mean, the more experience I'm able
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to get a super rugby and out the trump from
Super the Test is a decent leap. But the more
experience I can get a teen and playing teen for
a team and leading the team around the park, I
mean hopefully that only puts me in good stead for
what's to come later in the fleet.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And the competition for the All Blacks number ten Jersey
pretty fierce, always has been, probably always will be. It
could get even fiercer next year of Ritchie Moonga decides
to come back. How do you how much do you
a relish that competition for places in the All Blacks
and in such a key position.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah, there's nothing quite better than the healthy competition you
have throughout a a super campaign or when you're in
the same team. And I guess for myself it's the
it's about taking care of your own performance and playing
consistently good rugby and something I always try and pude
myself on. Has been consistent every week, putting everything in,
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making sure I'm preparing well and you know, if I
can do that and hopefully play some decent rugby, then
you know, that's all you can ask for. So you know,
that's my mindset guard into every game each week. And
healthy competition is always great. I think it brings the
best out of players, brings the best out of myself. So,
like I said, we've got some pretty decent teams and
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they can't be and.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
You've got a sabbatical in this contract in twenty twenty eight.
I think you keen to take that up. And is
that likely to be in Japan?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah, well so we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
But you know, obviously the Japan's always a vibe watching
the potential sabbatical. You know, it's a great basic experience
before love my time there. So you know, once once that,
once that comes up, then it's you know, just about
seeing where I am, where I'm at, and now the next
sort of two years ago. But that's my sole focus
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at the moment.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Fantastic well top of the table clash on Friday night
against the Reds. I'm not sure that we expected that
when the season started, but big challenge for you when
the Reds come to town on Friday.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Absolutely, they are the great young side and they've been
playing some really good rugby and you know we've had
some fear battles over the past few years and you know,
back at home this weekend, it's going to be exciting. Obviously,
we've we've come off a buyer if we feel really
refreshed and ready to go, and you know, no better
way to do it than to play the top of
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the table clash with the Reds at one at the moment.
So you know, we know we've got to take your
business this weekend and it's not going to be easy whatsoever.
I've definitely set the benchmark this year. So I'm looking
forward to the game.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
All the best for that one. Congratulations on the contract extension, Damien,
Thanks for the chat this evening. Thanks mate, appreciate it,
No appreciate you joining us. That's Damien McKenzie on Sports
Talk with his new four year extension tucked into his
back pocket. You've heard from the man himself. Your chance
to react now, oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
in particular, really keen to know what you predict for
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Damien McKenzie in the Black jersey this year? Do you
think he is the front runner for the number ten
jersey looking over only seven rounds into Super Rugby? But
I think it's a big enough sample size for us
to kick this around, and even if it's not, we
can take last year as a comparison as well, where
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Damien McKenzie was one of only two players to play
all fourteen Test matches, in fact, one of three to
play all fourteen Test matches last year, and of the
three he started by far the most. Ten of the
fourteen Test matches he started last year at first five.
The other four he came off the bench in an
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impact role. The other two, incidentally were Antony Lennart Brown
and a suffer are more. Do you think that Damien
McKenzie will be handed the keys to the car at
the start of this all black season? We heard today
the Blues are going to get Bowden Barrett back in
the mix as they prepare to welcome the Hurricanes to
Eden Park this weekend. He's returning to full training this week,
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or is expected to after he's suffered a hand injury,
a hand injury against the Brumbies a couple of weeks back.
He's been missing for the last two matches, during which
the Blues have lost to the Chiefs narrowly and the
Crusaders comfortably. So you'd have to think that if Bowden
Barrett is anywhere close to fit, he'll come back into
the blue side starting side, potentially for the game against
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the Hurricanes at Eden Park this week, which is actually
shaping up as pivotal, isn't it. Where does Damien mackenzie feel. Look,
I've always been a bit of a Bowden Barrett fan
at ten, but I'm nowhere near blinded by his brilliance
that I can't see Damien McKenzie's value in a rugby
team as well. He's still just looking for that way
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to find great consistency in the ten jersey. We all
know that in broken play of the tens available, even
when you add Richie Morelonger back into the mix, Damien
mackenzie is the most dangerous from broken play. And you
might say, well, actually that is a better tool when
you've got a bit more a bit more space at
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the back when and even Damien McKenzie even said that
there you know that at fullback. He's got a bit
more room to work with in that way, perhaps his
talents are better utilized. But then you say, well, okay,
well if he can still find the space in the
tighter areas in close, he's got a lot more chance
to impact the game, doesn't he. He clearly wants to
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play ten. I don't mind him at ten or fifteen,
and in fact, in many ways in the All Blacks,
I quite like him in the twenty three jumper, so
he can come on and impact the game that way,
because it feels to me as though Will Jordan has
got the inside running for the fallback jersey this year.
It's been playing terrific rugby for the Crusaders, and it
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feels like a straight shootout at ten between Boden Barrett
and Damien McKenzie, and then the other one might provide
impact off the bench. I be king to know how
you'd cut and slice it a eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. And this is a gutsy call from Damien
McKenzie because when he signed his last deal, that was
just after it had been announced that Richie mcwonga was
going offshore after the Rugby World Cup and Boden Barrett
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was supposedly doing the same, and then Boden Barrett did
the U turn and re signed with New Zealand Rugby,
and Scott Robertson made it very clear that Richie Wonger
was a man he wanted in his stable and even
went so far as taking the CEO with him up
to Japan to try and convince Richie Warnger to come
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back early. I wonder what that did to Damien McKenzie's
mindset when he saw his national coach off chasing somebody
who wasn't eligible at that time to play for the
All Blacks. What it does do is give you an
indication of how much Razor rates Richie Wonger. So Damien
McKenzie and signing a four year deal knows that he
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is in a fight to hold on to the number
ten jersey and I absolutely applaud and loved the fact
that he's up for that fight. Keen to know where
you think this all sort of fits together. Who wears ten,
who wears fifteen? Who gets the impact playmaker role off
the bench this year and then next year when Richie
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Wonger is potentially in the conversation, let's just say for
argument Sakey does come back and is available for the
All Blacks in the middle of next year and then
on towards World Cup year, have a bit of aid
look into the crystal ball for US OH eight hundred
eighty ten eighty nine, two ninety two. If you would
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we're back with your calls up to this.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
He no need for the TMO. We've got the breakdown
on Sports Talk call OH eight h News Talks.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
B.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
News Talk and Sports Talk are seven twenty six. I
only got a short time to chat about this. I
want to talk to our new four hundred meter national
record holder shortly the four hundred meter record for New
Zealand athletes. This is the men's record has stood since
nineteen ninety eight. Yesterday it was broken, So want to
chat to the man who did that. If you've got
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some thoughts though on first Five's Damien McKenzie's place in
all of this, Bodhen Barrett's place in all of this,
Richie Wonger's place in all of this, and who else
is in this conversation as well. Damien McKenzie talked in
that interview about Josh Jacob, who played the first three
games at first five for the Chiefs and did a
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pretty serviceable job. In fact, the first four games Damien
McKenzie didn't play against the drewer. Sewan Stevenson was away
for the first three games and now he's back. He's
kind of slotted into that fullback role that he's been
very effective. And so it's Mackenzie into ten and Josh
Jacob has come off the bench in the last two.
But he's probably the next one, isn't he. If you
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look around and you look at first fives, our number
is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. By the way,
it never changes speed line. If you want to jump aboard,
you go down to the Crusaders and Taha Cameta. Raw
materials are definitely there, but still quite a bit of
work to do there Up in the blue. I mean
Harry Plumber is I guess a possibility, but he's signaled
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he's going offshore. Hasn't he after Super Rugby or is
it at the end of the year. Either way, he's
only a short term option. Brought him to the All
Blacks late last year, got a Test match. He played
just the one Test match from memory, Harry Plumber won
off the bench. He came on against I'm just trying
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to remember which Test match he played, Harry Plumber. He
came off the bench against Australia in Sydney, so that's
where he became an All Black. But really, once it's
you got, would you who else would you? Would you
be happy bringing into the All Blacks in twenty twenty
five if it wasn't, for example, Damien McKenzie or Bodhen Barrett.
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If I was Damien McKenzie, says Graham, I would have
taken the money after the way he was shown a
lack of faith by the coach and openly trying to
get Richie Wonger back. Piney, I'm stoked he signed again,
says mus But I'd have him as an impact player
off the bench.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I think in many ways that is. You look at
Damien McKenzie's skill set and it seems almost perfectly suited
to an impact role, doesn't it. It's almost his skill
set is almost tailor made for somebody to come on
when the opposition's a little bit tired, a few k's
on the clock and just weave his magic and from
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ten or fifteen, as the situation dictates. The keen to
hear your views on this.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Hello, Mark, Hey Fini. Yeah, when's Richie Mwanga due to
come back to New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
It hasn't been officially confirmed, but his Japanese contract is
up mid year next year, so if he was to
come back, he'd be back in time for the mid
year internationals next year, is my understanding.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Yeah, I mean I think Raiser has obviously got a
thing for him obviously, you know, being with the Crusaders
and so on. And I think I think he did
rise to the number one well in New Zealand, if
not in the world as far as number ten, but
it took him quite a while. And I think Damien,
you know, he's you've got to have that time at
the top test level to build that almost resilience in
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the role and develop the skills at the highest level,
and like you know when you were talking to like
Super Rugby, and then the next step up to test
is you know, quite a big jump, especially you know
with the competition and the rest of the world. And
I mean Damien is the future probably isn't he. I
Mean Boden's sort of you know, might habit two or
three years left, and you know, Richie and Wang are
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the same. But you know, he is the long term
future for the number ten as far as I can see,
and I think I mean the super Rugby this he
has been fantastic. But yeah, I think he is the future.
But as far as Boden goes, you know, I think
Boden was so good that he was able to be
swapped into that fullback position. And you know, you can
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sort of say, well, what would have happened if he'd
had that number ten jersey all along? But I mean
that's sort of you can't really say that because they
gave it to Richie Wanger, and I think it was
a testament to bear it that he was just so
good that he could also play fullback.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, you talk about Damien McKenzie being the future. It's
such an interesting point you make, Mark, because even though
he looks about eighteen, Damien McKenzie is twenty nine. Richie
Wonger is thirty. Yeah, he's twenty nine.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
No, I'm not surprised that you're surprised, because you know,
you don't sort of think of it of him as
a as a bloke nearing thirty. But here we are
and Boden Barrett's thirty three. So look it's different. Yeah,
and at some point, at some point over the next
over this World Cup cycle, in between now and twenty
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twenty seven, you'd have to think that Race is going
to have to start developing the next bloke or blokes plural,
because well, Boden and Barrett won't have another World Cup
in him. You know, if he gets to the next one,
which is a state at AMYB thirty six, that'll be
at firm. It's possible, I guess that one or both
of McKenzie or Warnga might have another one, but that's
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that's certainly, you know, a big question mark. They'll both
be what thirty three, thirty four, so we're talking thirty
seven when the next World Cup rolls around. So at
some point he's going to have to start developing another.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
One, Hi, Yeah, and I imagine someone will through. I mean,
you look at cam roy Gat. I mean he sort
of came out of nowhere, and you know he's sort
of sort of catapulted into that into that field, into
that position, and I think I think another ten have
come along, I mean new Zealand's just a breeding ground
for backs. We've have always had sort of so many
coming through, but it's going to be a real, yeah,
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real fight for that for that ten position. And obviously
whether I guess because they are so versatile, those guys
and they are all sort of impact players, then they
can be useful in the wider team. And I think
sometimes you play horses for courses against different teams, and
I think that's probably what we'll see is in the
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development of the All Blacks. I think we'll see different
teams coming up against different opposition. You know, where Damien
might play better against, say Argentina, and like maybe would
be better against South Africa or Australia, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, look I do, and that may well also factor
into the thinking. Mark, good chatty as always, mate, Thanks
for taking the time to call through. What was that
test up at Auckland where Boden Barrett came off the
bench and basically sparked as to victory England. Wasn't it
last year? We were in a little bit of trouble,
you might say, behind to England up in Auckland, and
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from memory it had been a slightly unhappy night for
Damien McKenzie. Boden Barrett came off the bench I remember
this and changed that game twenty four to seventeen. We
ended up winning it. What I did like last year
was that Raser said to Damien mackenzie, you're my number
ten for a decent chunk of time. And that check
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of time ended up being nine Test matches. Nine Tests,
both against England, the Test against fig two against Argentina,
two against South Africa over there and the first Test
against Australia in Sydney. The first time that Damien McKenzie
was taken out of that ten jump was the Test
against Australia in Wellington, and then he was put back
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for the Japan Test and he started against Ireland there
as well. Now Boden Barrett might have been injured that
week from memory, because he wasn't in the twenty three
against Ireland, but he was given a lot of opportunities
last year. Like I say, it, was the only player,
or one of the only three players to play in
all fourteen Test matches, and if Raser really thought that
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he was an impact player, he would have given him,
I'm sure more time and a twenty three jumper earlier
in the season. Who's your kicker, Piney. If Damien mackenzie
is not in the fifteen, well, I guess it's Boden Barrett.
I guess he's your kicker. If Boden Barrett's at ten,
then he should kicker. Watch out for Harry Godfrey, says
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Tip on one. He's only twenty two. Yeah, like what
I've seen from Harry Godfrey. Still very raw though, but
there are big raps on Reuben Love has been suggested
here as well. Yeah, Reuben Love could be a terrific ten,
but I really like him at fullback. I think he's
got he's got similar kind of X factor in some
ways to Damien McKenzie, and that he is able to
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create things out of nothing like that behind the back
pass see the other night, Just see that incredible. Mark Robinson,
CEO of New Zealand Rugby, reckons this will be a
flow on to other players who will be keen to
re sign.
Speaker 9 (25:34):
We'll just keep working on a case by case basis
through with other players and contracts now, but it is
a strong signal, given the possibilities slightly available to Damien
that he's remaining with.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Us and Mark Robinson went on to say that it's
justification validation about their rule that only local players can
be chosen for the All Blacks. He says signing Damien
McKenzie when there was high interest overseas reinforces their stance.
Speaker 9 (26:00):
We believe, feeling and squeally, that's the right thing for
the game in this country. The calendar we have coming
up players look at and are incredibly excited about. So
if you want to be part of those opportunities, something
you have to be playing your rugby head.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
And one of those opportunities is the Lions to here
in twenty twenty nine, and Mark Robinson again says that
is proving a carrot for players.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
We'll have more announcements coming in the future as it
relates to senior players and some of those will have
lines very much at the forefront of your thinking and
some whatnot. But it is a really positive anchor in
the calendar that allows us to have conversations about people
remaining in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
So a good piece of business for New Zealand Rugby today.
Signing Damien McKenzie until the back end of twenty twenty nine.
He is the furthest contracted player if you get Madraff.
Nobody is contracted beyond the end of twenty twenty nine.
Damien McKenzie is the only one in that category. And
just checking some of those who are signed to twenty
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twenty eight, Jordi Barrett, he's got the links to sabbatical
he's on now. Reuben Love and to Suffer are more
so they're the only four. Are more Love, Jeordie Bower
and Damien McKenzie who are signed beyond the next Rugby
World Cup twenty three away from eight newstalks, he'd be
Sports Talk. Kiwi lex revel Lewis has taken down the
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long standing national men's four hundred meter record, becoming the
first Kiwi to dip under forty six seconds for the distance.
He achieved the feat at an Athletics Victoria Meet in Melbourne,
clocking forty five point eight eight seconds. The previous record
has stood for twenty seven years forty six oh nine,
set by Cantabrian Sean Ferrell in nineteen ninety eight. Lex
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rebel Lewis is with us. Congratulations mate, you're the fastest
Kiwi man over four hundred meters. Ever, how satisfying is
it to claim this.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Record so It's such a big relief. I've been gunning
for this record this whole season, and I've been close
so many times, and to finally get it, you know,
it's just such a big such so much weight off
my shoulders. I couldn't ask for anything more.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, I've had a look back in six times. You've
got within three tenths of a second of the old
record of forty six oh nine. You've run a forty
six one oh and a forty six one one. You
must have felt like this was coming, did you?
Speaker 8 (28:16):
Yeah, it was really funny actually, like it's almost comically weird.
How about how close have been so many times? And
you know, it's just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
How did you feel after a forty six one oh
and a forty six one one? We're talking hundreds of
a second away from the record. I think you did
the forty six one o in Sydney, the forty six
one one in Wellington. Did you kind of feel like, actually,
I can't break this record?
Speaker 8 (28:43):
Oh my Yeah, I felt cursed, honestly, like I felt
like I felt like I could have You know, I
was thinking back on the racism, all these different things
I could have done to like you know, maybe run
that point one faster and like, you know, it's it.
It was just annoying, honestly, but yeah, I don't have
to worry about that anymore.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
So you don't. You are the owner of the record.
How long has is breaking the four hundred meter record
being a goal?
Speaker 8 (29:09):
So yeah, I've had my eyes on this since twenty nineteen,
which was my first second school titles. It's when I
started getting coached by my coach. And a funny thing
is actually is the current record holder is my coach's
ex so it's a it's kind of a I guess
it's personal, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Indeed, and you were in Melbourne for the Maury Plant
Gold Mate on Saturday night, but I understand that you
were bumped out of the field.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
What happened, well, I think so there was four bots
one ins coming down. I had a faster PB than
one of the bots Ons, but obviously I think they
must have came in that package Gill. And you know,
with the only being eight lanes available, there's a few
ausies that are better than me. So I guess I
just didn't make the cut. But I was definitely capable of,
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you know, running well with the field, as I proved
it the day after.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
So yes, when you found out you wouldn't be running
the Maury plants, what did you do then?
Speaker 8 (30:11):
I didn't have a plan B yet, so I was
just looking at all the meats that were available because
obviously I felt like I was in some good forms.
I really wanted to run, and you know, I saw
a meat. There was a Melbourn meet the day after,
so it's like I get a two for one to
watch the meat and run the next day.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
So what where would forty five eight eight have got
you on the maury plant field? Have you have you
checked that out?
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (30:37):
So I would have got me six, I believe behind
the three bucks one and including Dealypic Champ and then
the two and then two of the Australians.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
So worth your place in that field had they given
it to you? Do you know? Do you know during
a race when whether you're on target for low forty
six ers or even sub forty six do you do
you get a feeling as the race is going on
that you're on target?
Speaker 8 (31:03):
Yeah? You do? What every every one of my races
that I've run, I've always felt like I've been on pace,
you know, I've been on part and then I kind
of fade a little bit at the end and then
it all goes down down the drain. But this rat,
in particular, I knew that I was well ahead of target,
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but then coming into the home straight, there was just
this you know, intense headwind that was just you know,
it was it was just such a such a strong force,
and I didn't think I obviously went across the line.
I didn't think I had it just because of how strong.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
That wind was.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
So if we break the four hundred meters down into
let's say, four one hundred parts, is any of them
more important than the other three?
Speaker 8 (31:49):
In my opinion, the most important for me personally is
the third one hundred around the bend. It generally seems
to be where I normally drop a paste, drop the
pace a little bit. So it's kind of like I
have to actively think about, you know, working that bend
and making sure I build that momentum for the last
hundred because that's ultimately what's going to help me through
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the last hundred.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
And you mentioned before when you were when you were
so close with the you know, within one hundredth of
a second, and you were looking for places where there
might be improvements. Is that where you looked on the
you know, on the on the third one hundred meters
or were you also looking at your start for example?
Speaker 8 (32:27):
Ah? Yes, so I was looking at some of them.
I splits from my past four hundred meter runs, and
my first one hundred was way too fast and my
third one hundred was way too slow. So it's like
I was kind of trying to switch them around, make
my first one hundred a lot slow and my third
one a lot faster. So yeah, that's kind of that
was my game plan for Saturday or Sunday.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
And I see you've also lets run Pebe's in the
one hundred and two hundred this year. Are those distances
you'll also look to continue improving in? Or is is
the four hundred your your major focus?
Speaker 8 (33:01):
No? Yeah, the four hundred is definitely my major focus,
but I think the shortest prints are definitely very important
for the four hundred. You obviously need you need to
have a massive speed base under you to run fast
four hundreds. And I don't know if I will continue
to run many one hundreds in the future, but I
will definitely continue to run a lot more two hundreds.
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Because I'm really looking forward to, you know, maybe potentially
breaking the two hundred record one day.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
So outstanding. So you've got this record tucked away. What's
next for you? What does twenty twenty five look like
for you? In July?
Speaker 8 (33:35):
I think end of July I have the World's Uni Games,
so I'll be gunning for that one. But yeah, other
than that, hopefully the World Champs after that. If I
run a little faster, so we'll see.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah. Well, congratulations, lex, A long standing record has been broken.
It's now in your position. You are the fastest kei
we man over four hundred meters forty five point eighty eight,
breaking Sean Ferrell's record of forty six point zho nine
back in nineteen ninety eight. Congratulations and thanks for joining
us tonight on Sports Talk. That is revel lewis named
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to look out for in the months and years, a
hit perhaps sixteen away from eight. We'll take a break,
come back and rate the weekend. It is Piney's power
rankings for Monday night here on Sports Talk Esour reggis Yes, indeed,
it's that time of the night, that time of the week.
(34:30):
Heiney's power ranking is as we rate the best, the
worst and the in between. Bits from this morning weekend.
Let's go Christian Horner, going back on his words from
December after just two races for Liam Lawson.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Will assume that the potential, with Liam having only done
Anlemon Coorn Prize is he's only going to get better
and stronger. He's shown real mental resilience and toughness. The
engineers have enjoyed working with him through the running that
he's done this year. He's got a good work ethic
as well.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, I can't wait to see Liam tear it up
and the racing balls car this weekend in Japan and
beyond nine. Auckland FC back in the winner circle after
three straight drawers Destrava. It's a good foe to maker
at the towering head. Well, I don't need.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Many chances, but it is a familiar story.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
In the end, it's Auckland in the shadows of half time,
as they so often do. Open the scoring tonell one
over Brisbane seven points clear at the top now with
five games to play Sat the Reds. That's right, The
Reds top of Super Rugby are fifth winn and six
games in the middle.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
You put a cow head now to mcjci.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And the Reds m they're setting up a top of
the table clash with the Chiefs this Friday night. Seven.
The Hurricanes a statement on Friday night against the Waratahs
and Wellington touched down by walker Leah when he ballbout
to go in the Watson touch like Sullivan times in
the try try.
Speaker 10 (36:08):
Amazing awareness from Balent Sullivan as Isaiah Walkerley a where
they added another big sick to his knife, charged it
down and has it squirted out towards the left hand edge.
Balent Sullivan came charging and tied on the ball and
scored to try.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
The Hurricanes had fifteen fifty seven to twelve infect it
finished the Canes back into the top six after their
best performance of the season. Six six is Mark Chapman
with his highest One Day International score on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Is her fun that's come yet?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
It is?
Speaker 5 (36:37):
It's one hundred runs from Mark Chapman. It was a
short ball from Erfan Khan and Chapman who did a
few swings at it. Power is it down to the
ground for four runs and a well earned hundred.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Eventually one hundred and thirty two off one hundred and
eleven balls for Mark Chapman sitting up a seventy three
run win for the Black Apps over Pakistan and Napier five.
Lex revel lewis our new national four hundred meters record holder.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
I've been gunning for this record this whole season, and
I've been close so many times, and to finally get it,
you know, it's so much weight off my shoulders, so
I couldn't ask for anything more.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
The new mark forty five point eight to eight seconds.
First key we man ever to go under forty six
seconds for the four hundred meters. Sure Warner Kafriski are
Luca Herrington a big air world champion. After victory at
the finals in Switzerland, I'm so grateful for every mower
of this journey and yeah, to be.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Able to put it down tonight has been so special
in such in front of such a great crowd, and yeah,
so happy man.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Look at Harrington ends this season with five World Cup podiums,
X Games gold and silver medals and now a World
Championship title into the top three the Black Fern Sevens
yet another title for them all. Flicks the ball out
for City Barnaldo's carrying the war wounds of the weekend
over the eye.
Speaker 10 (37:59):
Here is milleric in and.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Away she comes before they drafted in at the typical searching,
daring run at Georgiamella.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Look at the.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Delight that one beating Australia twenty six nineteen in the
final and winning a third consecutive Hong Kong sevens, the
Warriors coming from behind to beat the Tigers and the
wheat last night. And what about this drive now to
a peaky down the edge.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Calasiva is away showing speed, coming across Buller's there can't
get to him, Calasiba thinks too. He kisses, points to
the sky and scores a relovedable try.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
For the Warriors.
Speaker 10 (38:39):
Why that's unbelievable?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
What about that three straight wins now for the Warriors
our year, our year. But then on number one, number one,
mighty Mowana pacifica a water shed wind over the Crusaders.
In Christ you.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Molana mag deficits a piritulate Marx for Tuo buggersbed for
the first time they beat the Crusaders.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
And in christ you're just well, did I miss anything out?
A Mawana too high? What's what's your take on on
Piney's power ranking? Can you just go through that again.
Where was Aukland f C. Just because they're low doesn't
mean they're no good at at the top of the table.
Auckland FC down at nine yet outside of the Super
(39:26):
Rugby playoff check Hurricanes from there is just anti Auckland stuff, now,
isn't it. You spent one weekend back in Wellington Piney
Auckland f C did Yeah, Look, maybe I need to reshut. No, No,
you've you've done it now, you've ruined it all. It's
too late. Now they're out there. We can't change them.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Now.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
The man's already gone from ten down to one. We
can't change it now. Look, if Auckland f C win
this coming weekend, I guarantee they'll be higher than nine.
How's that's That's a good, good guarantee. Who do they
play this weekend? They've got Western Sydney on Saturday at home.
You could have said any team I said I was
going to, I say they'll probably won. And now do
you think do you think Wina PACIFICA will beat the
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war Retars? Just while we're on the subject of teams
doing very well, I think they will and I actually
think the drawer will beat the Crusaders as well next week.
What well, because it's in Fiji. Oh, of course it's
up in FIGI. Yeah, no, I did know that, but
I thought, well, that would be I mean it would
be unprecedented, obviously because I've never lost the more oneer.
But imagine the Crusaders losing to Winner Pacifica and the
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Fijian drawer in consecutive weekends. It's scarily believable for me
as a Crusaders fan. So I hope it doesn't happen. Well,
the tab aren't totally against it. I have to say
the Crusader's our favor at one forty two the drawer
two seventy. That's certainly a lot shorter than Winer Pacifica
where they were. I think there were six dollars going
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into that game, weren't they, Yeah, something like that. I
looked at it and thought, there's no way this will
ever happen. So I'm not going to put money on
it enough. Yeah, because you put all your money on
sure things normally, that's what history would tell us. Yes,
as a party's power rankings for tonight, they're back again
next Monday. Six to eight News talks ed Beat coming
up and seven fifty seven and that is us on
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Sports Talk for this evening. Thank you for taking part
in the conversation, some some good text messages, through a
couple of good phone calls and some good discussion. DMAC
locked in for another four years, four more years, looking
forward to seeing those dancing feet for the Chiefs and
for the All Blacks. Huge thanks to Anny McDonald for
producing the show. And enjoy a couple of days off mate.
We will see you on Saturday for weekend sport. Lots
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happening at the moment as the seasons continued to collide rugby, rugby, league, cricket,
football and lots more. Besides, have an excellent Monday evening.
Marcus Lush is in to look after you from eight
o'clock onwards for the rest of March. The rest of March,
see you said day by fing
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Speaker 2 (01:00):
That might be enough for the Cheeks to win it
sixty one Test All Blacks playmaker Amien McKenzie has recommitted
to New Zealand Rugby through to the end of the
twenty twenty nine season. The man himself is standing by
to chat to us. Surely then, I'm keen to hear
your views on where he fits into the All Blacks
picture this year and next year and in World Cup year.
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Also tonight, we have a new national record holder in
the men's four hundred meters. The previous record has stood
since nineteen ninety eight, but yesterday lex revel Lewis became
the first key we to go under forty six seconds,
clocking forty five point eighty eight at a meet in Melbourne.
He's with us tonight to reflect on that and Monday
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night of course means Piney's Power rankings as we rate
the best, the worst and the in between from the
weekend's sporting action. Can to get you involved as always,
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Speaker 1 (02:06):
Call is your call on oh eight hundred and eighty
Sports Talk All on your home of sports news Talk zby.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
So.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Damien McKenzie has recommitted to New Zealand Rugby the Chiefs
and White cut All for a further four years through
until twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Did you kick over the top end of the end
door no One's home Forgentina Sports in the in Dome,
Damien McKenzie to dry love my bouts for the All
Blacks number ten.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Damien McKenzie is with us. Congratulations on the contract extension, Damien.
Was this an easy decision to make or did you
have to mull over some other opportunities as well? Overseas
before you signed on the dotted line again.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah, thanks, Matte. Here was a well in the it
was a bit of an easy decision to step around
and recommit to the Chiefs in New Zealand. Rugby obviously
no place like home, and I think she's still got
a lot more to keep to both clubs. But yeah,
I guess during the process it did take a while.
I obviously had experience at a time season for a
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brief period of time around twenty twenty two, so yeah,
it was, it was. It did took a lot of
going back and forth. But in the end, yeah, it
ended up actually been quite an easy decision to around
to the.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Fact that you've had that time in Japan. Make it
easier to stay because you've done that already and scratch
that itch. Or in fact, did you think, hey, I
quite liked it over there. I wonder whether I should
go back.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I really love my time in Japan. I was awesome
to I guess, experience a different style of rugby, different culture,
and Japan's a great place and it was lucky enough
to be a part of a really cool, cool club
over there in Suntory, And so they thought of going
back was definitely on my mind. I guess the opportunity
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in New Zealand was. I guess one that I thought
I couldn't give up, And obviously both clubs have done.
So we've given so much with the chiefs in the
All Blacks and I feel like it's a great opportune
in the next two years and want to be a
part of it New Zealand. So yeah, like that opportunity
to go back to Japan really excited me. But I
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think I feel like I've still a little bit more
together news generate leadership.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So now the All Black with the longest contract nobody
else is beyond twenty twenty nine. How keen were you
to go beyond twenty twenty seven with the potential of
a Lions tour in twenty twenty nine, for example, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
It's obviously great to sign a long term deal with
the New Zealand Rugby and I guess the foot of
potentially being a part of a Lion series in twenty
twenty nine would be extremely exciting, But I guess he's
a lot of water to go under the bridge before
then and slip. We've got a big season this year
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and then is obviously the Spahika Tour next year and
then leading into a World Cup in twenty seven. So,
I mean, you know, the fact I've signed for four
years doesn't exactly. I mean, I'm just going to get
handed the opportunity to play field back. I know it's
going to take a bit of work over the next
few years, and that starts with the Chiefs and love
what we've got Garnet at the Chiefs at the moment,
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and then hopefully be there and bigger things come beyond that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It just on the Chiefs. How big a priority is
is it for you? How much you are you motivated
to win a Super Rugby championship or championships plural with
the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah, extremely motivated. Obviously been the Chiefs for a long
time now and it was hit them ups and down
definitely throughout my time with the Chiefs, and I guess
in the last couple of years we've been really close,
but I haven't been quite been able to climb that
last turtle. So yeah, extremely motivated to bring a championship
to the region, a club that's getting so much to me.
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We've obviously got a great crew here, very proud province,
proud region. So I mean, the least we can do
is try and bring your championship homes. It's been a
long time since we've been able to do that. Twenty
thirty it was the last time and we were able
to win a championship. So that's extremely motivating for myself
to try and help the Chiefs bring a title to
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the region.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
You've started the last two games for the Chiefs at
first five, the wins over the Blues and Marana Pacifica
the first three of the season at fallback. I know
you get asked this question a lot, but are you
still equally comfortable in either role or is first five
still your preference?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, I feel like I'm equally confident in both position.
Obviously focusing more on playing a lot of first five
at the Chiefs. Obviously very few games played with Josh
Jakin playing ten. He's a great, great young player. And
I guess now I Sean Bean back that with us.
That's allowed me to jump back into their ten role,
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and I guess the way we sort of the stole
week players been able to switch in between the boat.
But I think for myself moving forward, been able to
really command a spot and play ten and really drive
a team around the park as something in a part
of my game I'm always trying to work on, and
particularly if James beneath, even with the ortlax, playing especially
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playing ten is just you know, working on my craft
around my game management getting the team around the park
for eighty minutes. So the more I can do that
at ten, I guess then I can sort of shift
to fifteen there in the game, which is also very
exciting with a bit more space.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Absolutely, do you is there any danger do you think
of if you do, I guess, become a bit more
structured at first five, become a game driver. I guess
in a more traditional sense of a first five that
you might lose that that's superpower of yours to just
make things happen and broken play or do you feel
the two can go hand in hand.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yeah, it's probably just you know, picking the right moments
when it's on, to have a going when it's not.
And I guess, you know, that's something I pride myself on.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but I mean that's all.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Part of rugby.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
If you're willing to take the risk, you know, sometimes
it pays off, sometimes it might not. But I guess
it's just been a bit more consistent and the decisions
I'm making, and particularly once you get to a test
arena that the opportunities are a lot fewer, so making
sure a bit more accurate when it comes to a
Test rugby. But I mean, the more experience I'm able
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to get a super rugby and out the trump from
Super the Test is a decent leap. But the more
experience I can get a teen and playing teen for
a team and leading the team around the park, I
mean hopefully that only puts me in good stead for
what's to come later in the fleet.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And the competition for the All Blacks number ten Jersey
pretty fierce, always has been, probably always will be. It
could get even fiercer next year of Ritchie Moonga decides
to come back. How do you how much do you
a relish that competition for places in the All Blacks
and in such a key position.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah, there's nothing quite better than the healthy competition you
have throughout a a super campaign or when you're in
the same team. And I guess for myself it's the
it's about taking care of your own performance and playing
consistently good rugby and something I always try and pude
myself on. Has been consistent every week, putting everything in,
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making sure I'm preparing well and you know, if I
can do that and hopefully play some decent rugby, then
you know, that's all you can ask for. So you know,
that's my mindset guard into every game each week. And
healthy competition is always great. I think it brings the
best out of players, brings the best out of myself. So,
like I said, we've got some pretty decent teams and
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they can't be and.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
You've got a sabbatical in this contract in twenty twenty eight.
I think you keen to take that up. And is
that likely to be in Japan?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah, well so we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
But you know, obviously the Japan's always a vibe watching
the potential sabbatical. You know, it's a great basic experience
before love my time there. So you know, once once that,
once that comes up, then it's you know, just about
seeing where I am, where I'm at, and now the next
sort of two years ago. But that's my sole focus
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at the moment.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Fantastic well top of the table clash on Friday night
against the Reds. I'm not sure that we expected that
when the season started, but big challenge for you when
the Reds come to town on Friday.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Absolutely, they are the great young side and they've been
playing some really good rugby and you know we've had
some fear battles over the past few years and you know,
back at home this weekend, it's going to be exciting. Obviously,
we've we've come off a buyer if we feel really
refreshed and ready to go, and you know, no better
way to do it than to play the top of
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the table clash with the Reds at one at the moment.
So you know, we know we've got to take your
business this weekend and it's not going to be easy whatsoever.
I've definitely set the benchmark this year. So I'm looking
forward to the game.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
All the best for that one. Congratulations on the contract extension, Damien,
Thanks for the chat this evening. Thanks mate, appreciate it,
No appreciate you joining us. That's Damien McKenzie on Sports
Talk with his new four year extension tucked into his
back pocket. You've heard from the man himself. Your chance
to react now, oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
in particular, really keen to know what you predict for
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Damien McKenzie in the Black jersey this year? Do you
think he is the front runner for the number ten
jersey looking over only seven rounds into Super Rugby? But
I think it's a big enough sample size for us
to kick this around, and even if it's not, we
can take last year as a comparison as well, where
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Damien McKenzie was one of only two players to play
all fourteen Test matches, in fact, one of three to
play all fourteen Test matches last year, and of the
three he started by far the most. Ten of the
fourteen Test matches he started last year at first five.
The other four he came off the bench in an
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impact role. The other two, incidentally were Antony Lennart Brown
and a suffer are more. Do you think that Damien
McKenzie will be handed the keys to the car at
the start of this all black season? We heard today
the Blues are going to get Bowden Barrett back in
the mix as they prepare to welcome the Hurricanes to
Eden Park this weekend. He's returning to full training this week,
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or is expected to after he's suffered a hand injury,
a hand injury against the Brumbies a couple of weeks back.
He's been missing for the last two matches, during which
the Blues have lost to the Chiefs narrowly and the
Crusaders comfortably. So you'd have to think that if Bowden
Barrett is anywhere close to fit, he'll come back into
the blue side starting side, potentially for the game against
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the Hurricanes at Eden Park this week, which is actually
shaping up as pivotal, isn't it. Where does Damien mackenzie feel. Look,
I've always been a bit of a Bowden Barrett fan
at ten, but I'm nowhere near blinded by his brilliance
that I can't see Damien McKenzie's value in a rugby
team as well. He's still just looking for that way
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to find great consistency in the ten jersey. We all
know that in broken play of the tens available, even
when you add Richie Morelonger back into the mix, Damien
mackenzie is the most dangerous from broken play. And you
might say, well, actually that is a better tool when
you've got a bit more a bit more space at
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the back when and even Damien McKenzie even said that
there you know that at fullback. He's got a bit
more room to work with in that way, perhaps his
talents are better utilized. But then you say, well, okay,
well if he can still find the space in the
tighter areas in close, he's got a lot more chance
to impact the game, doesn't he. He clearly wants to
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play ten. I don't mind him at ten or fifteen,
and in fact, in many ways in the All Blacks,
I quite like him in the twenty three jumper, so
he can come on and impact the game that way,
because it feels to me as though Will Jordan has
got the inside running for the fallback jersey this year.
It's been playing terrific rugby for the Crusaders, and it
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feels like a straight shootout at ten between Boden Barrett
and Damien McKenzie, and then the other one might provide
impact off the bench. I be king to know how
you'd cut and slice it a eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. And this is a gutsy call from Damien
McKenzie because when he signed his last deal, that was
just after it had been announced that Richie mcwonga was
going offshore after the Rugby World Cup and Boden Barrett
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was supposedly doing the same, and then Boden Barrett did
the U turn and re signed with New Zealand Rugby,
and Scott Robertson made it very clear that Richie Wonger
was a man he wanted in his stable and even
went so far as taking the CEO with him up
to Japan to try and convince Richie Warnger to come
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back early. I wonder what that did to Damien McKenzie's
mindset when he saw his national coach off chasing somebody
who wasn't eligible at that time to play for the
All Blacks. What it does do is give you an
indication of how much Razor rates Richie Wonger. So Damien
McKenzie and signing a four year deal knows that he
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is in a fight to hold on to the number
ten jersey and I absolutely applaud and loved the fact
that he's up for that fight. Keen to know where
you think this all sort of fits together. Who wears ten,
who wears fifteen? Who gets the impact playmaker role off
the bench this year and then next year when Richie
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Wonger is potentially in the conversation, let's just say for
argument Sakey does come back and is available for the
All Blacks in the middle of next year and then
on towards World Cup year, have a bit of aid
look into the crystal ball for US OH eight hundred
eighty ten eighty nine, two ninety two. If you would
prefer to correspond by text seven twenty three. On Sports Talk,
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we're back with your calls up to this.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
He no need for the TMO. We've got the breakdown
on Sports Talk call OH eight h News Talks.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
B.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
News Talk and Sports Talk are seven twenty six. I
only got a short time to chat about this. I
want to talk to our new four hundred meter national
record holder shortly the four hundred meter record for New
Zealand athletes. This is the men's record has stood since
nineteen ninety eight. Yesterday it was broken, So want to
chat to the man who did that. If you've got
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some thoughts though on first Five's Damien McKenzie's place in
all of this, Bodhen Barrett's place in all of this,
Richie Wonger's place in all of this, and who else
is in this conversation as well. Damien McKenzie talked in
that interview about Josh Jacob, who played the first three
games at first five for the Chiefs and did a
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pretty serviceable job. In fact, the first four games Damien
McKenzie didn't play against the drewer. Sewan Stevenson was away
for the first three games and now he's back. He's
kind of slotted into that fullback role that he's been
very effective. And so it's Mackenzie into ten and Josh
Jacob has come off the bench in the last two.
But he's probably the next one, isn't he. If you
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look around and you look at first fives, our number
is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. By the way,
it never changes speed line. If you want to jump aboard,
you go down to the Crusaders and Taha Cameta. Raw
materials are definitely there, but still quite a bit of
work to do there Up in the blue. I mean
Harry Plumber is I guess a possibility, but he's signaled
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he's going offshore. Hasn't he after Super Rugby or is
it at the end of the year. Either way, he's
only a short term option. Brought him to the All
Blacks late last year, got a Test match. He played
just the one Test match from memory, Harry Plumber won
off the bench. He came on against I'm just trying
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to remember which Test match he played, Harry Plumber. He
came off the bench against Australia in Sydney, so that's
where he became an All Black. But really, once it's
you got, would you who else would you? Would you
be happy bringing into the All Blacks in twenty twenty
five if it wasn't, for example, Damien McKenzie or Bodhen Barrett.
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If I was Damien McKenzie, says Graham, I would have
taken the money after the way he was shown a
lack of faith by the coach and openly trying to
get Richie Wonger back. Piney, I'm stoked he signed again,
says mus But I'd have him as an impact player
off the bench.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I think in many ways that is. You look at
Damien McKenzie's skill set and it seems almost perfectly suited
to an impact role, doesn't it. It's almost his skill
set is almost tailor made for somebody to come on
when the opposition's a little bit tired, a few k's
on the clock and just weave his magic and from
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ten or fifteen, as the situation dictates. The keen to
hear your views on this.
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Hello, Mark, Hey Fini. Yeah, when's Richie Mwanga due to
come back to New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
It hasn't been officially confirmed, but his Japanese contract is
up mid year next year, so if he was to
come back, he'd be back in time for the mid
year internationals next year, is my understanding.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Yeah, I mean I think Raiser has obviously got a
thing for him obviously, you know, being with the Crusaders
and so on. And I think I think he did
rise to the number one well in New Zealand, if
not in the world as far as number ten, but
it took him quite a while. And I think Damien,
you know, he's you've got to have that time at
the top test level to build that almost resilience in
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the role and develop the skills at the highest level,
and like you know when you were talking to like
Super Rugby, and then the next step up to test
is you know, quite a big jump, especially you know
with the competition and the rest of the world. And
I mean Damien is the future probably isn't he. I
Mean Boden's sort of you know, might habit two or
three years left, and you know, Richie and Wang are
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the same. But you know, he is the long term
future for the number ten as far as I can see,
and I think I mean the super Rugby this he
has been fantastic. But yeah, I think he is the future.
But as far as Boden goes, you know, I think
Boden was so good that he was able to be
swapped into that fullback position. And you know, you can
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sort of say, well, what would have happened if he'd
had that number ten jersey all along? But I mean
that's sort of you can't really say that because they
gave it to Richie Wanger, and I think it was
a testament to bear it that he was just so
good that he could also play fullback.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, you talk about Damien McKenzie being the future. It's
such an interesting point you make, Mark, because even though
he looks about eighteen, Damien McKenzie is twenty nine. Richie
Wonger is thirty. Yeah, he's twenty nine.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
No, I'm not surprised that you're surprised, because you know,
you don't sort of think of it of him as
a as a bloke nearing thirty. But here we are
and Boden Barrett's thirty three. So look it's different. Yeah,
and at some point, at some point over the next
over this World Cup cycle, in between now and twenty
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twenty seven, you'd have to think that Race is going
to have to start developing the next bloke or blokes plural,
because well, Boden and Barrett won't have another World Cup
in him. You know, if he gets to the next one,
which is a state at AMYB thirty six, that'll be
at firm. It's possible, I guess that one or both
of McKenzie or Warnga might have another one, but that's
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that's certainly, you know, a big question mark. They'll both
be what thirty three, thirty four, so we're talking thirty
seven when the next World Cup rolls around. So at
some point he's going to have to start developing another.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
One, Hi, Yeah, and I imagine someone will through. I mean,
you look at cam roy Gat. I mean he sort
of came out of nowhere, and you know he's sort
of sort of catapulted into that into that field, into
that position, and I think I think another ten have
come along, I mean new Zealand's just a breeding ground
for backs. We've have always had sort of so many
coming through, but it's going to be a real, yeah,
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real fight for that for that ten position. And obviously
whether I guess because they are so versatile, those guys
and they are all sort of impact players, then they
can be useful in the wider team. And I think
sometimes you play horses for courses against different teams, and
I think that's probably what we'll see is in the
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development of the All Blacks. I think we'll see different
teams coming up against different opposition. You know, where Damien
might play better against, say Argentina, and like maybe would
be better against South Africa or Australia, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, look I do, and that may well also factor
into the thinking. Mark, good chatty as always, mate, Thanks
for taking the time to call through. What was that
test up at Auckland where Boden Barrett came off the
bench and basically sparked as to victory England. Wasn't it
last year? We were in a little bit of trouble,
you might say, behind to England up in Auckland, and
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from memory it had been a slightly unhappy night for
Damien McKenzie. Boden Barrett came off the bench I remember
this and changed that game twenty four to seventeen. We
ended up winning it. What I did like last year
was that Raser said to Damien mackenzie, you're my number
ten for a decent chunk of time. And that check
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of time ended up being nine Test matches. Nine Tests,
both against England, the Test against fig two against Argentina,
two against South Africa over there and the first Test
against Australia in Sydney. The first time that Damien McKenzie
was taken out of that ten jump was the Test
against Australia in Wellington, and then he was put back
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for the Japan Test and he started against Ireland there
as well. Now Boden Barrett might have been injured that
week from memory, because he wasn't in the twenty three
against Ireland, but he was given a lot of opportunities
last year. Like I say, it, was the only player,
or one of the only three players to play in
all fourteen Test matches, and if Raser really thought that
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he was an impact player, he would have given him,
I'm sure more time and a twenty three jumper earlier
in the season. Who's your kicker, Piney. If Damien mackenzie
is not in the fifteen, well, I guess it's Boden Barrett.
I guess he's your kicker. If Boden Barrett's at ten,
then he should kicker. Watch out for Harry Godfrey, says
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Tip on one. He's only twenty two. Yeah, like what
I've seen from Harry Godfrey. Still very raw though, but
there are big raps on Reuben Love has been suggested
here as well. Yeah, Reuben Love could be a terrific ten,
but I really like him at fullback. I think he's
got he's got similar kind of X factor in some
ways to Damien McKenzie, and that he is able to
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create things out of nothing like that behind the back
pass see the other night, Just see that incredible. Mark Robinson,
CEO of New Zealand Rugby, reckons this will be a
flow on to other players who will be keen to
re sign.
Speaker 9 (25:34):
We'll just keep working on a case by case basis
through with other players and contracts now, but it is
a strong signal, given the possibilities slightly available to Damien
that he's remaining with.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Us and Mark Robinson went on to say that it's
justification validation about their rule that only local players can
be chosen for the All Blacks. He says signing Damien
McKenzie when there was high interest overseas reinforces their stance.
Speaker 9 (26:00):
We believe, feeling and squeally, that's the right thing for
the game in this country. The calendar we have coming
up players look at and are incredibly excited about. So
if you want to be part of those opportunities, something
you have to be playing your rugby head.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
And one of those opportunities is the Lions to here
in twenty twenty nine, and Mark Robinson again says that
is proving a carrot for players.
Speaker 9 (26:18):
We'll have more announcements coming in the future as it
relates to senior players and some of those will have
lines very much at the forefront of your thinking and
some whatnot. But it is a really positive anchor in
the calendar that allows us to have conversations about people
remaining in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
So a good piece of business for New Zealand Rugby today.
Signing Damien McKenzie until the back end of twenty twenty nine.
He is the furthest contracted player if you get Madraff.
Nobody is contracted beyond the end of twenty twenty nine.
Damien McKenzie is the only one in that category. And
just checking some of those who are signed to twenty
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twenty eight, Jordi Barrett, he's got the links to sabbatical
he's on now. Reuben Love and to Suffer are more
so they're the only four. Are more Love, Jeordie Bower
and Damien McKenzie who are signed beyond the next Rugby
World Cup twenty three away from eight newstalks, he'd be
Sports Talk. Kiwi lex revel Lewis has taken down the
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long standing national men's four hundred meter record, becoming the
first Kiwi to dip under forty six seconds for the distance.
He achieved the feat at an Athletics Victoria Meet in Melbourne,
clocking forty five point eight eight seconds. The previous record
has stood for twenty seven years forty six oh nine,
set by Cantabrian Sean Ferrell in nineteen ninety eight. Lex
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rebel Lewis is with us. Congratulations mate, you're the fastest
Kiwi man over four hundred meters. Ever, how satisfying is
it to claim this.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Record so It's such a big relief. I've been gunning
for this record this whole season, and I've been close
so many times, and to finally get it, you know,
it's just such a big such so much weight off
my shoulders. I couldn't ask for anything more.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, I've had a look back in six times. You've
got within three tenths of a second of the old
record of forty six oh nine. You've run a forty
six one oh and a forty six one one. You
must have felt like this was coming, did you?
Speaker 8 (28:16):
Yeah, it was really funny actually, like it's almost comically weird.
How about how close have been so many times? And
you know, it's just I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
How did you feel after a forty six one oh
and a forty six one one? We're talking hundreds of
a second away from the record. I think you did
the forty six one o in Sydney, the forty six
one one in Wellington. Did you kind of feel like, actually,
I can't break this record?
Speaker 8 (28:43):
Oh my Yeah, I felt cursed, honestly, like I felt
like I felt like I could have You know, I
was thinking back on the racism, all these different things
I could have done to like you know, maybe run
that point one faster and like, you know, it's it.
It was just annoying, honestly, but yeah, I don't have
to worry about that anymore.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
So you don't. You are the owner of the record.
How long has is breaking the four hundred meter record
being a goal?
Speaker 8 (29:09):
So yeah, I've had my eyes on this since twenty nineteen,
which was my first second school titles. It's when I
started getting coached by my coach. And a funny thing
is actually is the current record holder is my coach's
ex so it's a it's kind of a I guess
it's personal, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Indeed, and you were in Melbourne for the Maury Plant
Gold Mate on Saturday night, but I understand that you
were bumped out of the field.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
What happened, well, I think so there was four bots
one ins coming down. I had a faster PB than
one of the bots Ons, but obviously I think they
must have came in that package Gill. And you know,
with the only being eight lanes available, there's a few
ausies that are better than me. So I guess I
just didn't make the cut. But I was definitely capable of,
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you know, running well with the field, as I proved
it the day after.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
So yes, when you found out you wouldn't be running
the Maury plants, what did you do then?
Speaker 8 (30:11):
I didn't have a plan B yet, so I was
just looking at all the meats that were available because
obviously I felt like I was in some good forms.
I really wanted to run, and you know, I saw
a meat. There was a Melbourn meet the day after,
so it's like I get a two for one to
watch the meat and run the next day.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
So what where would forty five eight eight have got
you on the maury plant field? Have you have you
checked that out?
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (30:37):
So I would have got me six, I believe behind
the three bucks one and including Dealypic Champ and then
the two and then two of the Australians.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
So worth your place in that field had they given
it to you? Do you know? Do you know during
a race when whether you're on target for low forty
six ers or even sub forty six do you do
you get a feeling as the race is going on
that you're on target?
Speaker 8 (31:03):
Yeah? You do? What every every one of my races
that I've run, I've always felt like I've been on pace,
you know, I've been on part and then I kind
of fade a little bit at the end and then
it all goes down down the drain. But this rat,
in particular, I knew that I was well ahead of target,
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but then coming into the home straight, there was just
this you know, intense headwind that was just you know,
it was it was just such a such a strong force,
and I didn't think I obviously went across the line.
I didn't think I had it just because of how strong.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
That wind was.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
So if we break the four hundred meters down into
let's say, four one hundred parts, is any of them
more important than the other three?
Speaker 8 (31:49):
In my opinion, the most important for me personally is
the third one hundred around the bend. It generally seems
to be where I normally drop a paste, drop the
pace a little bit. So it's kind of like I
have to actively think about, you know, working that bend
and making sure I build that momentum for the last
hundred because that's ultimately what's going to help me through
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the last hundred.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
And you mentioned before when you were when you were
so close with the you know, within one hundredth of
a second, and you were looking for places where there
might be improvements. Is that where you looked on the
you know, on the on the third one hundred meters
or were you also looking at your start for example?
Speaker 8 (32:27):
Ah? Yes, so I was looking at some of them.
I splits from my past four hundred meter runs, and
my first one hundred was way too fast and my
third one hundred was way too slow. So it's like
I was kind of trying to switch them around, make
my first one hundred a lot slow and my third
one a lot faster. So yeah, that's kind of that
was my game plan for Saturday or Sunday.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
And I see you've also lets run Pebe's in the
one hundred and two hundred this year. Are those distances
you'll also look to continue improving in? Or is is
the four hundred your your major focus?
Speaker 8 (33:01):
No? Yeah, the four hundred is definitely my major focus,
but I think the shortest prints are definitely very important
for the four hundred. You obviously need you need to
have a massive speed base under you to run fast
four hundreds. And I don't know if I will continue
to run many one hundreds in the future, but I
will definitely continue to run a lot more two hundreds.
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Because I'm really looking forward to, you know, maybe potentially
breaking the two hundred record one day.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
So outstanding. So you've got this record tucked away. What's
next for you? What does twenty twenty five look like
for you? In July?
Speaker 8 (33:35):
I think end of July I have the World's Uni Games,
so I'll be gunning for that one. But yeah, other
than that, hopefully the World Champs after that. If I
run a little faster, so we'll see.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah. Well, congratulations, lex, A long standing record has been broken.
It's now in your position. You are the fastest kei
we man over four hundred meters forty five point eighty eight,
breaking Sean Ferrell's record of forty six point zho nine
back in nineteen ninety eight. Congratulations and thanks for joining
us tonight on Sports Talk. That is revel lewis named
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to look out for in the months and years, a
hit perhaps sixteen away from eight. We'll take a break,
come back and rate the weekend. It is Piney's power
rankings for Monday night here on Sports Talk Esour reggis Yes, indeed,
it's that time of the night, that time of the week.
(34:30):
Heiney's power ranking is as we rate the best, the
worst and the in between. Bits from this morning weekend.
Let's go Christian Horner, going back on his words from
December after just two races for Liam Lawson.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Will assume that the potential, with Liam having only done
Anlemon Coorn Prize is he's only going to get better
and stronger. He's shown real mental resilience and toughness. The
engineers have enjoyed working with him through the running that
he's done this year. He's got a good work ethic
as well.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, I can't wait to see Liam tear it up
and the racing balls car this weekend in Japan and
beyond nine. Auckland FC back in the winner circle after
three straight drawers Destrava. It's a good foe to maker
at the towering head. Well, I don't need.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Many chances, but it is a familiar story.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
In the end, it's Auckland in the shadows of half time,
as they so often do. Open the scoring tonell one
over Brisbane seven points clear at the top now with
five games to play Sat the Reds. That's right, The
Reds top of Super Rugby are fifth winn and six
games in the middle.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
You put a cow head now to mcjci.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And the Reds m they're setting up a top of
the table clash with the Chiefs this Friday night. Seven.
The Hurricanes a statement on Friday night against the Waratahs
and Wellington touched down by walker Leah when he ballbout
to go in the Watson touch like Sullivan times in
the try try.
Speaker 10 (36:08):
Amazing awareness from Balent Sullivan as Isaiah Walkerley a where
they added another big sick to his knife, charged it
down and has it squirted out towards the left hand edge.
Balent Sullivan came charging and tied on the ball and
scored to try.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
The Hurricanes had fifteen fifty seven to twelve infect it
finished the Canes back into the top six after their
best performance of the season. Six six is Mark Chapman
with his highest One Day International score on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Is her fun that's come yet?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
It is?
Speaker 5 (36:37):
It's one hundred runs from Mark Chapman. It was a
short ball from Erfan Khan and Chapman who did a
few swings at it. Power is it down to the
ground for four runs and a well earned hundred.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Eventually one hundred and thirty two off one hundred and
eleven balls for Mark Chapman sitting up a seventy three
run win for the Black Apps over Pakistan and Napier five.
Lex revel lewis our new national four hundred meters record holder.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
I've been gunning for this record this whole season, and
I've been close so many times, and to finally get it,
you know, it's so much weight off my shoulders, so
I couldn't ask for anything more.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
The new mark forty five point eight to eight seconds.
First key we man ever to go under forty six
seconds for the four hundred meters. Sure Warner Kafriski are
Luca Herrington a big air world champion. After victory at
the finals in Switzerland, I'm so grateful for every mower
of this journey and yeah, to be.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Able to put it down tonight has been so special
in such in front of such a great crowd, and yeah,
so happy man.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Look at Harrington ends this season with five World Cup podiums,
X Games gold and silver medals and now a World
Championship title into the top three the Black Fern Sevens
yet another title for them all. Flicks the ball out
for City Barnaldo's carrying the war wounds of the weekend
over the eye.
Speaker 10 (37:59):
Here is milleric in and.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Away she comes before they drafted in at the typical searching,
daring run at Georgiamella.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Look at the.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Delight that one beating Australia twenty six nineteen in the
final and winning a third consecutive Hong Kong sevens, the
Warriors coming from behind to beat the Tigers and the
wheat last night. And what about this drive now to
a peaky down the edge.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Calasiva is away showing speed, coming across Buller's there can't
get to him, Calasiba thinks too. He kisses, points to
the sky and scores a relovedable try.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
For the Warriors.
Speaker 10 (38:39):
Why that's unbelievable?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
What about that three straight wins now for the Warriors
our year, our year. But then on number one, number one,
mighty Mowana pacifica a water shed wind over the Crusaders.
In Christ you.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Molana mag deficits a piritulate Marx for Tuo buggersbed for
the first time they beat the Crusaders.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
And in christ you're just well, did I miss anything out?
A Mawana too high? What's what's your take on on
Piney's power ranking? Can you just go through that again.
Where was Aukland f C. Just because they're low doesn't
mean they're no good at at the top of the table.
Auckland FC down at nine yet outside of the Super
(39:26):
Rugby playoff check Hurricanes from there is just anti Auckland stuff, now,
isn't it. You spent one weekend back in Wellington Piney
Auckland f C did Yeah, Look, maybe I need to reshut. No, No,
you've you've done it now, you've ruined it all. It's
too late. Now they're out there. We can't change them.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Now.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
The man's already gone from ten down to one. We
can't change it now. Look, if Auckland f C win
this coming weekend, I guarantee they'll be higher than nine.
How's that's That's a good, good guarantee. Who do they
play this weekend? They've got Western Sydney on Saturday at home.
You could have said any team I said I was
going to, I say they'll probably won. And now do
you think do you think Wina PACIFICA will beat the
(40:10):
war Retars? Just while we're on the subject of teams
doing very well, I think they will and I actually
think the drawer will beat the Crusaders as well next week.
What well, because it's in Fiji. Oh, of course it's
up in FIGI. Yeah, no, I did know that, but
I thought, well, that would be I mean it would
be unprecedented, obviously because I've never lost the more oneer.
But imagine the Crusaders losing to Winner Pacifica and the
(40:32):
Fijian drawer in consecutive weekends. It's scarily believable for me
as a Crusaders fan. So I hope it doesn't happen. Well,
the tab aren't totally against it. I have to say
the Crusader's our favor at one forty two the drawer
two seventy. That's certainly a lot shorter than Winer Pacifica
where they were. I think there were six dollars going
(40:52):
into that game, weren't they, Yeah, something like that. I
looked at it and thought, there's no way this will
ever happen. So I'm not going to put money on
it enough. Yeah, because you put all your money on
sure things normally, that's what history would tell us. Yes,
as a party's power rankings for tonight, they're back again
next Monday. Six to eight News talks ed Beat coming
up and seven fifty seven and that is us on
(41:14):
Sports Talk for this evening. Thank you for taking part
in the conversation, some some good text messages, through a
couple of good phone calls and some good discussion. DMAC
locked in for another four years, four more years, looking
forward to seeing those dancing feet for the Chiefs and
for the All Blacks. Huge thanks to Anny McDonald for
producing the show. And enjoy a couple of days off mate.
We will see you on Saturday for weekend sport. Lots
(41:39):
happening at the moment as the seasons continued to collide rugby, rugby, league, cricket,
football and lots more. Besides, have an excellent Monday evening.
Marcus Lush is in to look after you from eight
o'clock onwards for the rest of March. The rest of March,
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