May 26, 2025 • 42 mins
Jason Pine returns to recap a full day in the world of sport! Highlights for tonight include:
Former A-League referee Matthew Breeze dissects Auckland FC's weekend loss.
Motorsport journo Eric Thompson on Liam Lawson's success in Monaco.
Piney's power rankings!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildergrave
from News Talks. Edbkat a good evening, Welcome in some
Monday night sports talk on News Talks. Heb for May
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twenty six, Happy birthday to one of our greatest ever cracketors,
Glenn Turner. I'm Jason Pineshow producer Andy McDonald. We're here
until eight talking sport with you. Was that ball out
on Saturday night or not?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Did Gizumo Mice cross onto the head of Logan Rogerson
go out of play before it bent back into the
field of play, landed on Logan Rogerson's head and he
nodded it into the back of the net. Disallowed. Opinion
very much divided. Auckland FC coach Steve Coricker absolutely the
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adamant the ball didn't go out, Others equally adamant that
it did. There's no absolutely unequivocal way of knowing. But
it's certainly been a talking point in the last forty
eight hours or so. Former A League and FIFA referee
Matthew Breese this with us shortly with his view, I'd
like yours as well. Do you have a view like
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I say? It seems that as many people who think
that it stayed in think that it went out. Certainly
the talking point which we can kick around tonight. Also,
Liam Lawson has finished eighth that the Monaco Grand pre
to pick up his first points of the F one season.
By contrast or rather suboptimal Indianapolis five hundred for the
three kiwis, Scott McLaughlin didn't even get to the start line,
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crashing in the warm up lap. Scott Dixon had trouble,
as did Marcus Armstrong, although he was probably the best
of them. He came through the field and stayed relatively
out of trouble. But twenty first the best of the
three kiwis Eric Thompson. Going attach to us about out
Liam Lawson and in the five hundred tonight and Monday night,
of course, means we do Piney's Power rankings rating the
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good stuff, the bad stuff and everything in between from
the sporting weekend. But a live sport to keep a
eye on tonight. A and Z Premiership Netball steal the
mystics in Dunedin fourth the second sender pass at seven thirty.
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Speaker 1 (02:42):
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Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
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Speaker 2 (02:52):
A moment of major controversy in the A League Football
semi final second leg between Auckland FC and Melbourne Victory
on Saturday night at go Media, duncan a double fisted
Punch's gonna keep that in Rogerson hands got their hand.
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The logan Rogerson and those from the crowd the don't
check it. But that ball had gone behind a fantacy
before it gives you my mind was able to get
across him, or had been behind that's the suggestion.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Now it's king has clipped the wings of Mount Smart.
The first moment that we need to check is whether
or not because your MoMA keeps the ball, and that
from this angle looks okay. We can see the line
underneath the ball. The Retoy's chest going up on the
big screen. Now the question is even though there is
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a touch on the line, does it then.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Go out when it's in the air. That is what
has been adjudged. So mayas kept it in, but it
has drifted behind before coming back in. Gold will not stand. Yeah,
it didn't stand. Logan Rogerson looked to him for Auckland
f C. That would have leveled the tie up at
two all, but the gold is allowed. Be Gauzuma mis
cross are judged to have gone out of play before
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before curling back in to the field of play and
onto the head of Logan Rogerson. Matthew Brees was an
A League referee for the first six seasons of the
competition's existence. He was the first match official to control
one hundred A League games and was a two time
A League Referee of the Year. He was also a
FIFA referee, controlling many international matches Confederations and Asian Cups,
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Club World Cups and Age Group World Cups, and still
a very keen observer of the game of football. He
joins us, Now, Matthew, with your referees' eyes, let's start
with that. Did you think the ball had gone out.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Well, mate.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
It's very hard to tell because obviously I was looking
at a video clip that wasn't directly in line with
the goal line posted on Twitter. It's kind of small,
but I found it interesting that Stevie Crocker in his
post match press conference was pretty upset and he seemed
adamant that the ball hadn't crossed the line. A lot
of the commentary on x and social media was saying
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that it had clearly across the line, and I had
a bit of a look at it and frame by
frame and as you follow the ball, mate, I don't
think it's that clear that the whole of the ball
went over the whole of the line, So mister Crocker
might have a have an argument.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
There was the assistant referee in good position. You can
see him and the clip that you're referencing. He seems
to be right alongside the corner flag, albeit on the
other side. Does the ar in good position.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Was in perfect position. I had a look at that
as well. He's directly in line with the goal line.
You can see he was in a fully concentrated state,
totally concentrating on the situation, and in his opinion, the
ball went over the goal line, and that's why the
flag went up. I thought the flag went up a
little bit late. I think in that situation, if you're
clear that it goes over the line, it might be
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a good idea to get it up nice and early,
and that way you're kind of not ruling out a goal.
Referee might blow his whistle before the header even goes in.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Is there then, in the delay of the flag going up,
you know, some room for more doubt to festa? Is
it perhaps possible that he's not one hundred percent sure
that it's gone out, given the fact he didn't put
it his flag up straight away.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Look, I don't know what the instructions were. Maybe pre
match the referee kind of said, you know, make sure
you're certain, wait and see what happens, that sort of stuff.
But I think when you do delay your decision a
little bit like that, you do give the players, the crowd,
the media, people following at home, a little bit of
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room to doubt. We always say, if you certain, get
the flag up nice and early, or blow the whistle
nice and quickly, and it gives the impression of certainty
and it gives everyone clarity about your decision.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So we've got VAR now, of course, and so in
terms of the process that was followed there, it seemed
to be, you know, play went on pretty quickly afterwards.
It wasn't a long long delay for VAR to have
a look. Was the correct process followed in your view
by Var?
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Look, as far as I'm aware, it was followed. Obviously
I retired before VAR come into it, so I'm not
totally across all of the minutia of how it's done.
But I think the test is was it a clear
and obvious error? Obviously there were no or I haven't
seen any vision or any footage of camera angle directly
on the goal line, so if they were working from
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a kind of a camera towards the center of the field,
it would be probably difficult to say that it was
a clear and obvious error. So I think, you know,
unless we're going to have cameras on every sideline and
every goal line like we see in Europe and the
big competitions over there, you're still going to have to
rely upon humans to make decisions.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Are you a fan of VAR?
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Don't start me on.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
VAR, mate.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Look, I think it's got a place, I think it's necessary.
I think there was so much controversy and disquiet about
referees decisions prior to VAR. I think the game demand
a bit and once you start with VR you kind
of can't turn back. And now it's just a matter
of getting it right, managing you know, the decisions that
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come from VAR. I think it's here to stay. Obviously,
it can be done better, there's room for improvements. It
can be done a little bit quicker, but it's still
at the end of the day, you're relying upon human error,
humans to help the referee in the VR.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Booth, and in this case, as you quite rightly pointed
out before, you're relying on camera angles and you know
VAR doesn't have the camera angles that would unequivocally say
whether that ball wasn't or route. Then they have to say, look,
no obvious era has been made here, we stick with
the on field decision. The huge emotion wrapped around this though, man,
as you know, I mean, having been in the middle
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of Grand finals and really you know, passionate football matches,
How is a referee do you manage those emotions from
the other participants.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Well, you've just got to stay detached. You're there to
do a job. You know, I can see that the
assistant referee and the referee appeared to be totally concentrating
on task at hand. You know, it's funny. You can
be out in the middle. You can have fifty or
seventy thousand people screaming and baying for your blood. You
don't really hear them because if you're focused and you're
really locked into what you've got to do, you don't
hear the outside noise. And that's kind of how you
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do it. You just really concentrate and you don't really
hear it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And you might have be able to answer this in
terms of process, But would you expect that John Moss,
the head of a league referees, would be in touch
with Auckland FC to clarify the ruling or would he
wait for you know, communication in the other direction? What
do you think might have happened in the time since Yeah, look,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Maybe Stevie Curreker picked up the phone and called him
and demanded Tamansas. Maybe John just kind of said, you
know what, I've just let it kind of blow over.
But obviously, you know, Auckland have had a great season.
They've been a real draw card and a real addition
to the league and it was, you know, in some
ways unfortunate that they went out of the tie in
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the manner that they did. To be honest, I don't
think Steve Kurriker would be looking for an explanation. The
time is gone. He's probably on holidays by now.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, probably right. Actually, just one one, just going back
to it. I watched, I've watched it like you have
a lot of times on the angles that are available
both in the official television broadcast and a couple of
ones on x as well. I do note that when
the ball leaves Gija Ma MAI's foot, Jack Duncan, who's
in goal for Melbourne Victory, just momentarily watches the flight
of the ball and stops as if to say, okay,
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that's gone out. I'm going to the risk of the blast.
We're all we're going to have a goal kick here.
Do you take notice of the players and situations like.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
That, We actually do so quite often, especially when you've
got to throw in and you're not really sure which
way it's going. It might come off a couple of
feet very quickly. Sometimes you watch the reactions of the players,
little subtle body language which player goes to pick up
the ball first, which one you know, calls for it.
Sometimes they call for it because they know that the
throwing is going against them, So we do look at
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body language like that. In that situation, maybe the goalkeepers
just you know, watching the ball go up and I'm
not sure whether we actually stopped because he thought it
went out, But of course you know, he would have
had the net in his way. He would have had
the goalpost in his way as well, so I'm not
sure you can take too much from that, but yes,
we one hundred percent look at body language of the players.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
All right, man, I will appreciate you taking the time
for a chat. Like I say, we'll never know, but
thanks for wrapping some context around this discussion for us
from a referees point of view. Matthew Breese, former top
level referee at a league level and FEEFA level two
time a leg Referee of the Year, what do you reckon, oh,
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eight hundred and eighty ten eighty did you at first
law and at second look? And if you like me,
at four hundred and twenty second look, I think the
ball was out or not. There's obviously no way of
knowing for sure. We will know and opinion is anything
but unanimous on this. But if you've seen it, what
did you see? I guess you see in many ways
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what you want to see. I've watched this far too
many times, far too many times, and my view is
from the angles i've seen. I think it's gone out
and curled back in. But I wouldn't put my house
on it. There's no way I put my house on it.
We'll never know for sure. Unless there's a camera above
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the ball looking down and seeing whether it's gone all
the way behind or not, We'll never know. But let
me know if you've got a view. Look, I've got
no skin in this game. It doesn't matter at all
to me, and of course it doesn't change the result.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, just before we
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go to the lines. Steve Coricker postmatch was unequivocal, absolutely
adamant that the ball hadn't gone out, or at least
he thought that there should have been further examination. The
var can only look at what he can look at.
He can't manufacture views, and like I said to Matthew Brees,
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if there's no absolute reason to overturn the onfield decision,
they have to stick with the onfield decision now. Steve
Coricker spoke with our own Ryan Bridge this morning alongside
CEO Nick Becker, and I wondered whether the forty eight
hours had you know, had perhaps changed his view, if
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he'd managed to step back from it a second and
have a look at it, because he was very emotional
on Saturday night. Here's Ryan Bridge with Steve Coricker and
Nick Becker, the CEO of the club this morning.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Have you forgive and the match officials?
Speaker 8 (14:07):
Yet? No, that's going to haunt me for quite a while,
I think so. I, like Nick said, you know, it's
been an incredible season. To win the premiership, premiership in
the in the first year is amazing, but it got
one game too short for us, you know, I think
it was just disappointing the way it ended. I think
for me, you know, the performance the crowd amazing, but yes,
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it's still going to haunt me for quite a while.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Do you have you done anything about it? Can you
do anything about it?
Speaker 8 (14:35):
We've asked the question to the to referees officials. We're
still waiting to hear back from them. We normally have
fifteen minutes to have a chat with them after the game,
but they shot off pretty quickly. I think so didn't
get that opportunity.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
They left.
Speaker 9 (14:49):
They left.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Yeah, I've never seen a ref run out of a
stadium so quickly. No, it's it's really disappointed, but there's
nothing you can do about it. You know, it is
it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
It is.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
It is football. You know, we've we did feel like
there's no need for the lines to put his flag up,
and we've been seeing a number of videos we've been
sent showing that the ball didn't go out. Has led
to a bit of frustration, but you know, overall, as
we reflect on the season and over the next couple
of days, that's going to get easy to deal with.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
All Right.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
There's Nick Becker and Steve Carrika. I think they're you know,
being a bit more pragmatic about it. Look, I haven't
seen the videos that Nick Becker referenced there, or I mean,
why would I. I've been sent a couple that have
been basically posted on social media. Fan videos. They are,
you know, videos that fans have taken from a fairly
handy position, and one in particular is you know, seems
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to show that it's gone out. But again, you know,
Matthew Brees saw the same video. The referee I just
spoke to got in touch with me on X and said, hey,
I'm not sure frame by frame it which is why
I got him on the show. Look, it's impossible to
tell Derek you were there, what was your Did you
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get a decent view?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I saw the whole thing. The ball went over. It
was a clear goal, let me tell you this, though
I can't be one hundred percent certain. From my angle,
I was sort of in line with the ref so
he wouldn't have known. But the var, of course, the
culture of var means that referees don't like making decisions anymore,
and he'd probably happy to put all the blame on
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his lines and say, well he's done it nothing to
do with me. But look, I saw that. It looked
to me like it was in, but I'm not one
hundred percent certain it was in. Now, I think, if
you want to think what I think the linesmen saw,
I think the linesmen thought it was out, but he
wasn't one hundred percent certain it was out. And in
that case he should have kept his flag down and
just let the game go on.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
But that's what they told to do. Dear, if that's
what they're told to do for off sides, right, you've
seen that they if they're not sure for an off side,
they keep their flag down, they let play go on
and if a goal scored on sorry, then they put
their flag up and you can always come back and
check it. See, this is a different situation, and that
you know. The VAAR cameras are set up for off sides,
they're not set up for a situation like this.
Speaker 8 (17:07):
Now.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
If you look at the linesmen a safe for example,
for fraguments sake, he was on the other side behind
May and he could see the probeller of the ball
going up and out. Well, that would have been a
different situation, but he wasn't. He was on the far
side and he would have been coming back into that position,
so it wasn't even on the right side of the
of the line to be looking at it. He just
quickly put it up on the guests and he's just
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going to to be fair to a lot of rassh
You hope when they have a decision they stick with
it and you get the referee who's been brought up
unlike Matthew Brees has been brought up on a culture
of le vaidea with it. I don't want any controversy,
and that's what you get with the rest. Now you
get referees that don't want them want to make a
decision because quite frankly, they've lost all confidence and really
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they wonder why players have no expect for them. They
gather around them, they use that var sign, go upstairs,
We're not listening to anything. You've got to say, go upstairs,
We're not going to You're not the final word. This
is how it's going in football now. Look, even if
that was on the only real problem I have about game,
and to be fair, I didn't think Auckland passed the
ball anywhere there as well as they had to up
for most of the season. And looked that early goal
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by that French Machader I think his name is. I mean,
that was just a hit and hope it ended up
hitting Pinacare on the knee and just I saw that
as soon as it happened. I but oh, I know
we had trouble here and it just went completely in
another direction with a spin on it and Paulson had
no chance whatsoever. And up to that point I think
Auckland went really pushing it, but they were just cruising
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through to the final whistle basically for me. And then
of course the Uruguayan got the goal to make it
too nell and then after that and this was about
an hour. That was about an hour of the game
going on here. But he didn't have a problem, Jason,
and this will have a big problem with the referee.
That Machada, that French guy. He did nothing but antagonized
people all night. He fouled a number of people, which
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led the Pulson running out of his goal mouth at
one stage. And then after they got those goals, every
time he got himself on the ball, he would throw
himself to the ground and he wouldn't get up no
matter what the referee did to him. And I'm pretty
sure he's on a yellow card. He just wouldn't get
up to the point where he got into an argument
with Saki at one stage over the far side where
he was off the field the game was about to continue.
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He rolls back on the field and once again the
referee stops the game. And of course Auckland could never
get that momentum playing in against the Port, which is
what they normally do when they score latent games. They
couldn't get that momentum because this guy was rolling around
the ground. Now, wonder he can't get a gig in Francis. Guy,
he's nothing more than his grace. But this is what
the Auckland fans and the Auckland players have got to
work out. That sort of play is celebrated quite a
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bit in the A League. It has been for a
long time. There's a player at Adelaide called sas AESAs
I think his name is. He does that all the time.
His team gets the head after about one or two
minutes of the game, he spends the rest of the
time getting on in possession of the ball and then
thrown him south to the ground getting a free kick
and then he won't get off the ground and this machade.
That's all he did the entire time. Once he got
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that lucky goal and that was the first goal, an
own goal that they scored against him in four meetings
victory against Auckland, he just kept throwing him off the around. Now,
the referee at that time should have taken control of
the situation. We even saw that Arazi, who was already
on a yellow card to a couple of ridiculous tackles
another couple of diving wasting time, and this is with
half an hour left of the game. And that's what
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drives me crazy. And I was up at the crowd
and people were getting very, very upset. But this is
something that Alton has got to work out. That there
are certain players in the A League And if you
were listening not to you look to your commentary, not
to your commentary, but if you listen to the A
LEA commentators, the normal guys that you normally get on
through the other channels, they celebrate that sort of behavior.
Oh look at him, he's wasting time. This is professionalism.
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This is how they play these big games. This is
how you disrupt the other team's rhythm. It drives me
insane and these sorts of guys from me are a
disgrace to the game. He should be kicked out of
the game. And unfortunately it's a bit of a problem
in the A League. But if people think they want
to look at this game and look at that situation
with the goal scored for Auckland, and they think that
var is going to somehow be the be all and
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all and it's going to sort things out, you're wasting
your time. Has another problem in the game, which was
brought and preimarily to stop everything happening and getting everything wrong,
and then they said no, no, they aren't just going
to stop the bad ones. But they don't do that.
Var is the biggest problem in the game as well,
and we saw that on the game here. They have
a chance to intercept, they can overturn the official, but
they didn't do it. But look, at the end of
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the day, as my comments are basically as an Auckland
supporter who was so desperately disappointed that in front of
a big crowd which was waiting to erupt at any time,
we just couldn't get the job done. But it's very
difficult because I've seen so many victories from Alton the season,
and apart from that four and I lost to Western United,
They've won so many games in front of me at
Mount Smart Stadium. It's been the club has brought so
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much joy to me this year that I'll definitely be
by the season pick up for next year. I won't
be leaving any longer. But I just just disappointment, Jason,
that's all.
Speaker 9 (21:55):
It is.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Really good on you, Derek passionate words from you as
always love it and you're right. I mean that's what
sport is. You're supposed to be passionate about it. You are.
Thanks for you cool mate. Oh eight one hundred and
eighty ten eight. Michael says. When they showed the side
on TV replay of the goal, the ball went over
behind the near post out of play before curling to
the far post. It was the linesman flagged. It's sorry,
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but it was out, says Michael. Tom says, Piney, you
need to move on. People make mistakes, that's all. If
you leave it to the referee to influence the results,
you have not played well enough. Look at aston Villa.
They just lost over one hundred million pounds for an
obvious referee's mistake and their manager said that mistakes are made.
You can watch it one hundred times. The call's been made.
It hurts, but that is sport, Tom, the last bit
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of that's absolutely bang on. That is sport. That is sport.
Oval ball fans says this one don't realize the whole
ball has to go over the entire line. Watching the replays,
Mike kicked it before the line and it followed the
line for the first few meters. It's impossible for it
to then bend out and then in terrible call goal
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all day. Thanks David, I appreciate it because as there
are financial loss, asks Noel with the VAR decision to
any one. If not, then trust your onfield referees, right
or wrong. It's just a game. Yes. VAR was brought
in at the risk of going down this rabbit hole.
VAR was brought in to eliminate the howler, the decision
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that everybody could see but the referee somehow got wrong.
And there was a very famous incident which sent France
to a World Cup at the expense of Ireland because
there was the most blatant handball by tierryon Ree that
everybody saw except for the referee. Handball goal was scored,
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France won, the game went to the World Cup. Ireland didn't.
That was how high stakes it was. VAR was brought
in with the express intension of eliminating that sort of howler. Unfortunately,
what's happened is that VAR has become this tall to
examine in forensic detail every single decision that has made
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that leads to a goal, and so any joy of
a goal being scored has been eliminated because you celebrate,
and then you think to yourself, hang on, is VA
are going to rule this out because a guy's got
a fingernail off side. I preferred the old way when
decisions were made on the field, and we sucked it
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up and realized that sometimes people make mistakes. Referees are human.
What THEI has done is dehumanize the game. Text here
seems like such a hard rule to roll on. It's
in the air. Maybe they need to play inside a
perspect's box to eliminate any risk that would be taking
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it to another level, wouldn't it? Twenty nine away from eight.
We'll take some more calls, Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty nine on text back after this?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
The great call is your call on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty sports. Do call on your home of
sports used to.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Twenty six to eight. Chris has hang on that Texas
onto something. Let's play football in the box like squash
would be very entertaining.
Speaker 9 (25:15):
Take Glenn, Hey, Jason, were you commentating on the on
the TV the other night? I was, oh, yeah, that
was good. I didn't realize you'd done the TV commentary
as well. Good word, thanks, Yeah, I just thought that yeah,
(25:38):
it's I mean, Auckland FC has got a lot of
people interested in football now, which was good. Yeah, because
I normally just watched the league, you know, the league
and a bit of the bit of the rugby. But yeah,
it's been good for Auckland doing so so well.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, it certainly opened opened the game up to a
lot more people. Glenn, You're not the only one who's
jumped on board.
Speaker 9 (25:59):
Mate on the bandwagon. Oh no, I was just I
just wanted to mention the I'm pretty sure in the
in the Premier League in England they have like better
technology like they have like a if the ball goes
like that, they can actually look down and from a
(26:21):
from a camera or some sort of senses that are
on the lines and they can actually see if the
balls cross the line or not.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, they can. It's yeah, goal line technology, Glen. It exists.
All Premier League stadiums are fitted with the cameras and
the technology to do just that, Mate. Yes, and that's
why that's why goal line technology actually works very well.
It's like in tennis, you know with a hawkeye where
you can you can see is the ball in or
out and it's it's it's black and white, and so
(26:50):
that's why goal line technology works so well. Yeah, unfortunately
the resources in the A League aren't quite at the
premier league level.
Speaker 9 (26:57):
Yeah, okay, right, yeah, I just wanted to mention that.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Oh, good on you, Glenn. I'm glad you have mate,
and it's it's a very good point you make. Had
that technology been there at media on Saturday, we'd know
one way or another, we would know unequivocally. News Talk's
here being Sports Talk seven thirty six.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
No need for the TMO. We've got the breakdown on
sports Talk Calight News Talks.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Liam Lawson eighth at the Monaco Grand Prix this morning,
picking up his first points of the F one season.
Speaker 10 (27:31):
So hat ja second on seven Lawson eight. What a
great day has been for those three drivers.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Certainly has Motorsport commentator and correspondent Eric Thompson is with
us et How significant is this for Liam? How much
confidence will this give him picking up his first points
of the season.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Partly, this is exactly what he needed. He's had you
and I touched on this before. He's had the only
word I can think I was a pretty thought start
to the season. He's been comprehensileusly beaten by his teammates,
and you know, he's had a bit of bad luck,
had strategy calls, but everything everything came together at Monaco.
(28:11):
He was super fast in practice. He got to Q
three for the first time. You know that everything aligned
at the start around Monaco, stayed out of trouble. Great
race and the team had a brilliant strategy for him
and hadja You know, there's been some of the other
drivers sort of winging and moaning a bit about you know,
(28:32):
he held us up a bit in the drawer or
if any other team had thought of that strategy, any
other team and that entire good would have executed it,
but I don't think they would have honestly finally executed
as well as the racing balls did.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Tell us about that again, tell us about that strategy
because Monico being being a race track that's hard to
pass on, they've introduced two compulsory pit stops. Is that right?
And how did Racing Bulls use that strategy to their
advantage this morning?
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Well, right at the very start, you know they would
have talked about they said, look, had you out qualified you?
So you know we're going to make sure had you
gets a good result and Lawson, you know, be a
good team player, would have gone okay, guys. So what
happened is had You was in front and Lawson was
driving probably ninety six percent ninety seven percent rather than
(29:22):
one hundred percent, he wasn't racing, racing to catch his teammates,
and the racing balls were gone, okay, let how'd you
get ahead of you so that he can come into
a pit stop? As you right you said, first time
mandatory to stop, get the tires on and still come
out ahead of Lawson, which he did. So it means
Hadja couldn't be you know the phrase undercut overcut in
(29:46):
the pets so loud had you to come out, and
then then they raced along again and Laws and State
behind Aga, and then for the second pit stop, similar thing.
He just lifted off. You're talking tenths of a second.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
You know.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
It's not like that infamous Bathurst David and Fabian Coulthard
was driving at about two kilometers an hour down connod St.
It wasn't as obvious as that, but some of the
other drivers knew and as you rightly said, Piney, you
can't pass around one to go so it's not as
if he could suddenly be monstered, but he was just
that few tenths slower, which again allowed had you to
(30:19):
get a second pit stop, come out ahead of Lawsons,
then the two of them just race to the finish.
So from a team perspective, both cars got manufacturer's points
and they are the most important points because that's where
the money comes from.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Indeed, you know, so smart team racing from Liam Lawson.
I did see though that he wasn't entirely excited about
his group position. Could he have qualified higher.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
If sinans, pots and pans, you know, the whole thing,
he could have I mean, he was certainly fast, very
very fast, but you're looking at hundreds of the second
around a whole lap, and I think some people think,
you know, like when you blink, that's about just under
a second when you're Island blinks, so you're looking at
it almost a tenth of that. So and around the
(31:07):
whole circuit like that, that's the margin. So if Lawson
had a super clean lap, yeah, he could have been
fourth or fifth. I mean, he wouldn't have been on pole,
but yeah, maybe two or three spots higher. But the
best thing for him and the team, and for Lawson
and his family and close mates and friends and his
(31:30):
personal team around him. Getting points, getting to Q three,
that should be the launch pad for him or the springboard,
whatever allegory you want to use for him to do
really well. This weekend it's the last of the triple header,
and if he can get into the points again the
weekend coming up, now he could be on for a
really good run for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Outstanding here, So that's a grand pro. Now number nine
is just say in Spain this coming weekend, is he
just starting to get the hang of this et?
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Yeah, I think so, Monico. Is he's always liked to Monaco.
In fact, I think he's just moved there so as
you do, of course, Yeah, yeah, you and I might
might be able to afford the walk around the place.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
We'll visit, we'll visit one day.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
This is I won't be able to afford a couple
of cope and so you know, he's moved there, so
that's a good thing. So, but he likes the place.
It's a really tricky place, Monica. You know, you saw,
you know, a couple of accidents and qualifying and practice
and during the race so to manage that car around there.
(32:38):
I think he is finally getting the hang of it.
And I think he's just not over trying anymore, like
we've all done it in the past. You know, things
don't go the right way, so you try too hard,
then you make more mistakes. I think if you just
dial back a bit, and I think, what's really good.
Although he wanted to race, and he wasn't racingas racing,
but he dialed back a little bit like one or
(32:59):
two percent, and look at the result by not over trying,
brought the car home one.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Piece, picked up points.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
So you know, maybe that's.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
A really good thing.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Just while I've got you across the Atlantic Ocean. The
ND five hundred was on at the Brickyard, very wet,
very challenging, and for the key with contingent, not a
day they'll remember with any fine. The Scott mcgloughlin crashed
out in the warm up lap. Scott Dixon had mechanical
as you see, was twenty third. Marcus Armstrong the best
of the three of them in twenty first. Just a
(33:30):
bad day for the kiwis at the brickyard.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Et Oh, maybe a really bad day at the office
for three of them, you'd normally have three Kewis in
that field, one of them would have been in the
top ten. And Dixon was so fast in the two
weeks running up to that for him to get a
break dup fire. I mean that was then at him
and mcglocklam putting it into the wall, and I think
it's the first time since about the seventies somebody's put
(33:54):
it in the wall during practice. And you know, and
the accidents left, right and center. You know Schwartzman, the
guy put the car on pole, pulled into the pits
and takes out four of his pit crew. Yeah, you know,
it was just one of the weirdest thing. But I
was talking to Scott Dixon before the race and before
(34:14):
the race weekend and he was saying, the hybrid engines
that they're using the season, and especially they're doing well
over three hundred klimeters an hour around that place, is
that there's a lot of weight out in the rear
of the car. And he was saying, I think he's
quote with something like it acts like a pendulum at
the back of the car. In the past. He was saying,
(34:35):
if it started to slide or step out, you know,
you could catch it and you maybe get a bit
of a twitch and a drift, but you'd be okay.
But he was saying, because there's all this weight hanging
out the back of the car, once it goes, it
just goes. And if you look at the accident, some
of the monster accidents and practice in the run up
and in qualifying to that race, and during the race,
(34:57):
I reckon there's something in that the hybrid engine and
how that extra weight is mounted out the back of
the car could be catching a few of these drivers out,
all right.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Sean Mengezberg, And I see fourteenth at the latest NASCAR
race and Charlotte, that's the second best finish of the season.
He was sixth at the Circuit of the America's back
in early March. How's the goods going in NASCAR?
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Ovals have been his bugbear show. We say road courses.
We all know if he doesn't get punted off, he'll
be there and thereabouts on road courses. But if you
look back at the qualifying for the All Star Race,
he qualified on pole on an oval, So you just
know he's getting the hang of the ovals and some
of all the old stages that have been around for
(35:40):
years and some of the retired NASCAR drivers and said
with shame, the only way you can be fast on
ovals is to spend time on ovals. There's no magic thing,
you know. You can't get a coach to give you
the right thing on ovals. It's just miles after miles
after miles. And if you think about it, he got
one thousand kilometers at the Cocola six hundred. This is
(36:01):
the longest NASCAR race on an oval. And okay, a
little bit of damage to the under neat to the
car when you had to take to the infield, but
other than that, out of trouble. And in fourteenth I
reckon he's well on his way to getting his head
around the ogles. And they're just something weird.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
You know.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
The Americans grow up on ovles. No nobody else in
the rest of the world does.
Speaker 9 (36:21):
Well. It's weird.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yep, good to know he's get on the hang of it.
At always love chatting motorsport with you. Thanks for your
time this evening, mate, we'll catch up again soon.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
You're always a pleasure pony anytime, mate.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Good on you mate. That's Eric Thompson, our motorsport correspondent.
Here on News Talks. He's seven forty five when we
come back. Piney's Power Rankings for the weekend, Our rankings,
Favorite time of the week. Piney's Power Rankings rating the good,
the bad and the in between. Bits from the Sporting Weekend.
(36:54):
The dy five hundred disastrous for the key week contingent
after a challenging wet day at the brickyard. Everybody got
a Crashclaughlin.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
The one thing you don't want it to is to
have your race ended before it's even begun.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
It is, Yeah, just heartbreaking. Scott McLaughlan crashing out on
the warm up lamp. Scott Dixon twenty third after mechanical
issues and Marcus Armstrong the best of the New Zealanders
in twenty first nine Liverpool, they finally get to lift
the Premier League trophy title.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Number twenty tall off the search to Reds are back.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
On their perch.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Eight eight of Sunderland with a dramatic return to the
Premier League.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
The Black Chuts the top talks at Weindley and they
returned to the Premier League after eight two years away.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Their congratulations Sunderland fans, your team with a two to
one win over Sheffield United in the Premier League playoff.
Soon the Warriors. The streak finally comes to an end and.
Speaker 11 (38:00):
The Raiders of Dunnets they're Canda Auckland and they busted
the Warriors home record in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Five sixteen ten to the Raider's just a blift, just
a blip. Don't worry still our year six Auckland FC
no have crushed the party. Auckland FC's remarkable record breaking
first season. No not have a grand finale, just like that.
(38:27):
The dream debut season is over. But you have to
hand it to Auckland FC. What a maiden season it
was five staying with the A League. Melbourne victory fans
are at five. They joined us at Tyler Street Sport
on Saturday, a couple of them.
Speaker 12 (38:42):
I actually booked my flights after I'd tipped a few
beers in and I'm going to Queenstown on Monday. But
I realized the fight home in Melbourne's not till Sunday nights.
If we make the Grand Final, we have to change
you for you do have.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
To change your flight bookings. Demi and fears great to
meet you on Saturday. You've got a Grand Final to
get to sure the Chiefs.
Speaker 11 (39:00):
There's just too many tries on my sheet to go
through and name them all, but thirty.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
One millar at halftime, eighty five to seven at full time.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Not a typo eighty five seven too many tries for
Graham Minty Mead's commentary sheet. They are your super Rugby favorites.
The Chiefs free Liam Lawson at the Monico Grand Prix
this morning.
Speaker 10 (39:20):
So Hatja six on seven Lawson eight. What a great
day has been for those three drivers.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Certainly has much needed points for Liam Lawson. Finally underway
in twenty twenty five, Thomas Hamish kerr Our Olympic gold
medal winning high jumper, soaring above the field again.
Speaker 10 (39:39):
Bar at two twenty five birth to ten Pamish curl
the kiwi oh beautiful, yeah, lovely smooth loss and jump
from Kurler.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Gold at the Diamond League meet in Morocco. That man,
mark my words, will jump two meters forty at some
stage in the not too distant future on the incomparable.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Hush Quick seven tries the greatest ever do it Great records.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Now the Black Fern's leading all time at tri scorer.
You know you are amazing when you lose count I
don't even know how many change the score seven seven seven,
you know, I don't know. There's got so many tries
you lose counts. I guess I I guess I could
(40:31):
have put her at number seven, but they would have
been way too low.
Speaker 11 (40:33):
Yeah, well, Piney, I'm gonna have to have a worthy
about how rankings work. You meant to put football teams
that win stuff ahead of football teams that lose, so
especially you man Liverpool at nine.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
I know, but they won the Premier League a month ago.
All they did was lifted I get it, I get it.
And Malcolm's head, what do you mean finally Piney? What
I mean was finally get to lift it because they
won it, like I say, with a month to spare,
but they don't hand it out till the end.
Speaker 11 (41:03):
Well, then, without wanting to go into what about is in?
What about Sunderland who only just got promoted to the
Premier League this weekend?
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Do you think they're a bit low? I think they're
a bit low as well either way. I mean, look,
I understand, I understand what you're saying. I just I
feel like, you know, you need to have a local
focus in Piney's Power rankings. That's why god Auckland FC
and the Warriors, both of who lost their matches, higher
up the rankings than Sunderland and Liverpool.
Speaker 11 (41:32):
Well we can workshop this for the Pioneer, but.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Better Okay, look I'm to take it. Look, all feedback
is a gift. All feedback is a gifting.
Speaker 11 (41:42):
You went slightly into touch.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
All right, okay, but they are not available to rule
on Piney's Power rankings, but they will return next Monday night.
And as we approached three minutes to eight, that is
us on Sports Talk for tonight. Thank you so much
for tuning in. Tim Rocksborough is in the chair after
eight o'clock for Marcus Lush to take you through the
(42:05):
rest of this Monday evening. Huge thanks also to Annie
McDonald for producing the show both today and across the
weekend as well. Enjoy a couple of days off, mate.
We will see you or you'll hear from us on
Weekend Sport this coming Saturday from midday through until three
final weekend of Super Rugby Round Robin, and then we'll
have our Top six focus on rugby across the weekend. Hey,
(42:28):
enjoy the rest of your week and We'll chat you
on Sunday. Bye now.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
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(00:29):
twenty six, Happy birthday to one of our greatest ever cracketors,
Glenn Turner. I'm Jason Pineshow producer Andy McDonald. We're here
until eight talking sport with you. Was that ball out
on Saturday night or not?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Did Gizumo Mice cross onto the head of Logan Rogerson
go out of play before it bent back into the
field of play, landed on Logan Rogerson's head and he
nodded it into the back of the net. Disallowed. Opinion
very much divided. Auckland FC coach Steve Coricker absolutely the
(01:06):
adamant the ball didn't go out, Others equally adamant that
it did. There's no absolutely unequivocal way of knowing. But
it's certainly been a talking point in the last forty
eight hours or so. Former A League and FIFA referee
Matthew Breese this with us shortly with his view, I'd
like yours as well. Do you have a view like
(01:29):
I say? It seems that as many people who think
that it stayed in think that it went out. Certainly
the talking point which we can kick around tonight. Also,
Liam Lawson has finished eighth that the Monaco Grand pre
to pick up his first points of the F one season.
By contrast or rather suboptimal Indianapolis five hundred for the
three kiwis, Scott McLaughlin didn't even get to the start line,
(01:52):
crashing in the warm up lap. Scott Dixon had trouble,
as did Marcus Armstrong, although he was probably the best
of them. He came through the field and stayed relatively
out of trouble. But twenty first the best of the
three kiwis Eric Thompson. Going attach to us about out
Liam Lawson and in the five hundred tonight and Monday night,
of course, means we do Piney's Power rankings rating the
(02:13):
good stuff, the bad stuff and everything in between from
the sporting weekend. But a live sport to keep a
eye on tonight. A and Z Premiership Netball steal the
mystics in Dunedin fourth the second sender pass at seven thirty.
Going to keep an eye on that for you as well.
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Speaker 1 (02:42):
You hear it from the biggest names and sports man.
Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
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Speaker 2 (02:52):
A moment of major controversy in the A League Football
semi final second leg between Auckland FC and Melbourne Victory
on Saturday night at go Media, duncan a double fisted
Punch's gonna keep that in Rogerson hands got their hand.
(03:15):
The logan Rogerson and those from the crowd the don't
check it. But that ball had gone behind a fantacy
before it gives you my mind was able to get
across him, or had been behind that's the suggestion.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Now it's king has clipped the wings of Mount Smart.
The first moment that we need to check is whether
or not because your MoMA keeps the ball, and that
from this angle looks okay. We can see the line
underneath the ball. The Retoy's chest going up on the
big screen. Now the question is even though there is
(03:50):
a touch on the line, does it then.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Go out when it's in the air. That is what
has been adjudged. So mayas kept it in, but it
has drifted behind before coming back in. Gold will not stand. Yeah,
it didn't stand. Logan Rogerson looked to him for Auckland
f C. That would have leveled the tie up at
two all, but the gold is allowed. Be Gauzuma mis
cross are judged to have gone out of play before
(04:15):
before curling back in to the field of play and
onto the head of Logan Rogerson. Matthew Brees was an
A League referee for the first six seasons of the
competition's existence. He was the first match official to control
one hundred A League games and was a two time
A League Referee of the Year. He was also a
FIFA referee, controlling many international matches Confederations and Asian Cups,
(04:40):
Club World Cups and Age Group World Cups, and still
a very keen observer of the game of football. He
joins us, Now, Matthew, with your referees' eyes, let's start
with that. Did you think the ball had gone out.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Well, mate.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
It's very hard to tell because obviously I was looking
at a video clip that wasn't directly in line with
the goal line posted on Twitter. It's kind of small,
but I found it interesting that Stevie Crocker in his
post match press conference was pretty upset and he seemed
adamant that the ball hadn't crossed the line. A lot
of the commentary on x and social media was saying
(05:18):
that it had clearly across the line, and I had
a bit of a look at it and frame by
frame and as you follow the ball, mate, I don't
think it's that clear that the whole of the ball
went over the whole of the line, So mister Crocker
might have a have an argument.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
There was the assistant referee in good position. You can
see him and the clip that you're referencing. He seems
to be right alongside the corner flag, albeit on the
other side. Does the ar in good position.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Was in perfect position. I had a look at that
as well. He's directly in line with the goal line.
You can see he was in a fully concentrated state,
totally concentrating on the situation, and in his opinion, the
ball went over the goal line, and that's why the
flag went up. I thought the flag went up a
little bit late. I think in that situation, if you're
clear that it goes over the line, it might be
(06:08):
a good idea to get it up nice and early,
and that way you're kind of not ruling out a goal.
Referee might blow his whistle before the header even goes in.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Is there then, in the delay of the flag going up,
you know, some room for more doubt to festa? Is
it perhaps possible that he's not one hundred percent sure
that it's gone out, given the fact he didn't put
it his flag up straight away.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Look, I don't know what the instructions were. Maybe pre
match the referee kind of said, you know, make sure
you're certain, wait and see what happens, that sort of stuff.
But I think when you do delay your decision a
little bit like that, you do give the players, the crowd,
the media, people following at home, a little bit of
(06:54):
room to doubt. We always say, if you certain, get
the flag up nice and early, or blow the whistle
nice and quickly, and it gives the impression of certainty
and it gives everyone clarity about your decision.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So we've got VAR now, of course, and so in
terms of the process that was followed there, it seemed
to be, you know, play went on pretty quickly afterwards.
It wasn't a long long delay for VAR to have
a look. Was the correct process followed in your view
by Var?
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Look, as far as I'm aware, it was followed. Obviously
I retired before VAR come into it, so I'm not
totally across all of the minutia of how it's done.
But I think the test is was it a clear
and obvious error? Obviously there were no or I haven't
seen any vision or any footage of camera angle directly
on the goal line, so if they were working from
(07:46):
a kind of a camera towards the center of the field,
it would be probably difficult to say that it was
a clear and obvious error. So I think, you know,
unless we're going to have cameras on every sideline and
every goal line like we see in Europe and the
big competitions over there, you're still going to have to
rely upon humans to make decisions.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Are you a fan of VAR?
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Don't start me on.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
VAR, mate.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Look, I think it's got a place, I think it's necessary.
I think there was so much controversy and disquiet about
referees decisions prior to VAR. I think the game demand
a bit and once you start with VR you kind
of can't turn back. And now it's just a matter
of getting it right, managing you know, the decisions that
(08:34):
come from VAR. I think it's here to stay. Obviously,
it can be done better, there's room for improvements. It
can be done a little bit quicker, but it's still
at the end of the day, you're relying upon human error,
humans to help the referee in the VR.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Booth, and in this case, as you quite rightly pointed
out before, you're relying on camera angles and you know
VAR doesn't have the camera angles that would unequivocally say
whether that ball wasn't or route. Then they have to say, look,
no obvious era has been made here, we stick with
the on field decision. The huge emotion wrapped around this though, man,
as you know, I mean, having been in the middle
(09:07):
of Grand finals and really you know, passionate football matches,
How is a referee do you manage those emotions from
the other participants.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Well, you've just got to stay detached. You're there to
do a job. You know, I can see that the
assistant referee and the referee appeared to be totally concentrating
on task at hand. You know, it's funny. You can
be out in the middle. You can have fifty or
seventy thousand people screaming and baying for your blood. You
don't really hear them because if you're focused and you're
really locked into what you've got to do, you don't
hear the outside noise. And that's kind of how you
(09:42):
do it. You just really concentrate and you don't really
hear it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And you might have be able to answer this in
terms of process, But would you expect that John Moss,
the head of a league referees, would be in touch
with Auckland FC to clarify the ruling or would he
wait for you know, communication in the other direction? What
do you think might have happened in the time since Yeah, look,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Maybe Stevie Curreker picked up the phone and called him
and demanded Tamansas. Maybe John just kind of said, you
know what, I've just let it kind of blow over.
But obviously, you know, Auckland have had a great season.
They've been a real draw card and a real addition
to the league and it was, you know, in some
ways unfortunate that they went out of the tie in
(10:24):
the manner that they did. To be honest, I don't
think Steve Kurriker would be looking for an explanation. The
time is gone. He's probably on holidays by now.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, probably right. Actually, just one one, just going back
to it. I watched, I've watched it like you have
a lot of times on the angles that are available
both in the official television broadcast and a couple of
ones on x as well. I do note that when
the ball leaves Gija Ma MAI's foot, Jack Duncan, who's
in goal for Melbourne Victory, just momentarily watches the flight
of the ball and stops as if to say, okay,
(10:52):
that's gone out. I'm going to the risk of the blast.
We're all we're going to have a goal kick here.
Do you take notice of the players and situations like.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
That, We actually do so quite often, especially when you've
got to throw in and you're not really sure which
way it's going. It might come off a couple of
feet very quickly. Sometimes you watch the reactions of the players,
little subtle body language which player goes to pick up
the ball first, which one you know, calls for it.
Sometimes they call for it because they know that the
throwing is going against them, So we do look at
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body language like that. In that situation, maybe the goalkeepers
just you know, watching the ball go up and I'm
not sure whether we actually stopped because he thought it
went out, But of course you know, he would have
had the net in his way. He would have had
the goalpost in his way as well, so I'm not
sure you can take too much from that, but yes,
we one hundred percent look at body language of the players.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
All right, man, I will appreciate you taking the time
for a chat. Like I say, we'll never know, but
thanks for wrapping some context around this discussion for us
from a referees point of view. Matthew Breese, former top
level referee at a league level and FEEFA level two
time a leg Referee of the Year, what do you reckon, oh,
(12:03):
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty did you at first
law and at second look? And if you like me,
at four hundred and twenty second look, I think the
ball was out or not. There's obviously no way of
knowing for sure. We will know and opinion is anything
but unanimous on this. But if you've seen it, what
did you see? I guess you see in many ways
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what you want to see. I've watched this far too
many times, far too many times, and my view is
from the angles i've seen. I think it's gone out
and curled back in. But I wouldn't put my house
on it. There's no way I put my house on it.
We'll never know for sure. Unless there's a camera above
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the ball looking down and seeing whether it's gone all
the way behind or not, We'll never know. But let
me know if you've got a view. Look, I've got
no skin in this game. It doesn't matter at all
to me, and of course it doesn't change the result.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, just before we
(13:09):
go to the lines. Steve Coricker postmatch was unequivocal, absolutely
adamant that the ball hadn't gone out, or at least
he thought that there should have been further examination. The
var can only look at what he can look at.
He can't manufacture views, and like I said to Matthew Brees,
(13:33):
if there's no absolute reason to overturn the onfield decision,
they have to stick with the onfield decision now. Steve
Coricker spoke with our own Ryan Bridge this morning alongside
CEO Nick Becker, and I wondered whether the forty eight
hours had you know, had perhaps changed his view, if
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he'd managed to step back from it a second and
have a look at it, because he was very emotional
on Saturday night. Here's Ryan Bridge with Steve Coricker and
Nick Becker, the CEO of the club this morning.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
Have you forgive and the match officials?
Speaker 8 (14:07):
Yet? No, that's going to haunt me for quite a while,
I think so. I, like Nick said, you know, it's
been an incredible season. To win the premiership, premiership in
the in the first year is amazing, but it got
one game too short for us, you know, I think
it was just disappointing the way it ended. I think
for me, you know, the performance the crowd amazing, but yes,
(14:30):
it's still going to haunt me for quite a while.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Do you have you done anything about it? Can you
do anything about it?
Speaker 8 (14:35):
We've asked the question to the to referees officials. We're
still waiting to hear back from them. We normally have
fifteen minutes to have a chat with them after the game,
but they shot off pretty quickly. I think so didn't
get that opportunity.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
They left.
Speaker 9 (14:49):
They left.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Yeah, I've never seen a ref run out of a
stadium so quickly. No, it's it's really disappointed, but there's
nothing you can do about it. You know, it is
it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
It is.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
It is football. You know, we've we did feel like
there's no need for the lines to put his flag up,
and we've been seeing a number of videos we've been
sent showing that the ball didn't go out. Has led
to a bit of frustration, but you know, overall, as
we reflect on the season and over the next couple
of days, that's going to get easy to deal with.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
All Right.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
There's Nick Becker and Steve Carrika. I think they're you know,
being a bit more pragmatic about it. Look, I haven't
seen the videos that Nick Becker referenced there, or I mean,
why would I. I've been sent a couple that have
been basically posted on social media. Fan videos. They are,
you know, videos that fans have taken from a fairly
handy position, and one in particular is you know, seems
(15:40):
to show that it's gone out. But again, you know,
Matthew Brees saw the same video. The referee I just
spoke to got in touch with me on X and said, hey,
I'm not sure frame by frame it which is why
I got him on the show. Look, it's impossible to
tell Derek you were there, what was your Did you
(16:01):
get a decent view?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
I saw the whole thing. The ball went over. It
was a clear goal, let me tell you this, though
I can't be one hundred percent certain. From my angle,
I was sort of in line with the ref so
he wouldn't have known. But the var, of course, the
culture of var means that referees don't like making decisions anymore,
and he'd probably happy to put all the blame on
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his lines and say, well he's done it nothing to
do with me. But look, I saw that. It looked
to me like it was in, but I'm not one
hundred percent certain it was in. Now, I think, if
you want to think what I think the linesmen saw,
I think the linesmen thought it was out, but he
wasn't one hundred percent certain it was out. And in
that case he should have kept his flag down and
just let the game go on.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
But that's what they told to do. Dear, if that's
what they're told to do for off sides, right, you've
seen that they if they're not sure for an off side,
they keep their flag down, they let play go on
and if a goal scored on sorry, then they put
their flag up and you can always come back and
check it. See, this is a different situation, and that
you know. The VAAR cameras are set up for off sides,
they're not set up for a situation like this.
Speaker 8 (17:07):
Now.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
If you look at the linesmen a safe for example,
for fraguments sake, he was on the other side behind
May and he could see the probeller of the ball
going up and out. Well, that would have been a
different situation, but he wasn't. He was on the far
side and he would have been coming back into that position,
so it wasn't even on the right side of the
of the line to be looking at it. He just
quickly put it up on the guests and he's just
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going to to be fair to a lot of rassh
You hope when they have a decision they stick with
it and you get the referee who's been brought up
unlike Matthew Brees has been brought up on a culture
of le vaidea with it. I don't want any controversy,
and that's what you get with the rest. Now you
get referees that don't want them want to make a
decision because quite frankly, they've lost all confidence and really
(17:52):
they wonder why players have no expect for them. They
gather around them, they use that var sign, go upstairs,
We're not listening to anything. You've got to say, go upstairs,
We're not going to You're not the final word. This
is how it's going in football now. Look, even if
that was on the only real problem I have about game,
and to be fair, I didn't think Auckland passed the
ball anywhere there as well as they had to up
for most of the season. And looked that early goal
(18:12):
by that French Machader I think his name is. I mean,
that was just a hit and hope it ended up
hitting Pinacare on the knee and just I saw that
as soon as it happened. I but oh, I know
we had trouble here and it just went completely in
another direction with a spin on it and Paulson had
no chance whatsoever. And up to that point I think
Auckland went really pushing it, but they were just cruising
(18:32):
through to the final whistle basically for me. And then
of course the Uruguayan got the goal to make it
too nell and then after that and this was about
an hour. That was about an hour of the game
going on here. But he didn't have a problem, Jason,
and this will have a big problem with the referee.
That Machada, that French guy. He did nothing but antagonized
people all night. He fouled a number of people, which
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led the Pulson running out of his goal mouth at
one stage. And then after they got those goals, every
time he got himself on the ball, he would throw
himself to the ground and he wouldn't get up no
matter what the referee did to him. And I'm pretty
sure he's on a yellow card. He just wouldn't get
up to the point where he got into an argument
with Saki at one stage over the far side where
he was off the field the game was about to continue.
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He rolls back on the field and once again the
referee stops the game. And of course Auckland could never
get that momentum playing in against the Port, which is
what they normally do when they score latent games. They
couldn't get that momentum because this guy was rolling around
the ground. Now, wonder he can't get a gig in Francis. Guy,
he's nothing more than his grace. But this is what
the Auckland fans and the Auckland players have got to
work out. That sort of play is celebrated quite a
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bit in the A League. It has been for a
long time. There's a player at Adelaide called sas AESAs
I think his name is. He does that all the time.
His team gets the head after about one or two
minutes of the game, he spends the rest of the
time getting on in possession of the ball and then
thrown him south to the ground getting a free kick
and then he won't get off the ground and this machade.
That's all he did the entire time. Once he got
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that lucky goal and that was the first goal, an
own goal that they scored against him in four meetings
victory against Auckland, he just kept throwing him off the around. Now,
the referee at that time should have taken control of
the situation. We even saw that Arazi, who was already
on a yellow card to a couple of ridiculous tackles
another couple of diving wasting time, and this is with
half an hour left of the game. And that's what
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drives me crazy. And I was up at the crowd
and people were getting very, very upset. But this is
something that Alton has got to work out. That there
are certain players in the A League And if you
were listening not to you look to your commentary, not
to your commentary, but if you listen to the A
LEA commentators, the normal guys that you normally get on
through the other channels, they celebrate that sort of behavior.
Oh look at him, he's wasting time. This is professionalism.
(20:41):
This is how they play these big games. This is
how you disrupt the other team's rhythm. It drives me
insane and these sorts of guys from me are a
disgrace to the game. He should be kicked out of
the game. And unfortunately it's a bit of a problem
in the A League. But if people think they want
to look at this game and look at that situation
with the goal scored for Auckland, and they think that
var is going to somehow be the be all and
(21:03):
all and it's going to sort things out, you're wasting
your time. Has another problem in the game, which was
brought and preimarily to stop everything happening and getting everything wrong,
and then they said no, no, they aren't just going
to stop the bad ones. But they don't do that.
Var is the biggest problem in the game as well,
and we saw that on the game here. They have
a chance to intercept, they can overturn the official, but
they didn't do it. But look, at the end of
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the day, as my comments are basically as an Auckland
supporter who was so desperately disappointed that in front of
a big crowd which was waiting to erupt at any time,
we just couldn't get the job done. But it's very
difficult because I've seen so many victories from Alton the season,
and apart from that four and I lost to Western United,
They've won so many games in front of me at
Mount Smart Stadium. It's been the club has brought so
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much joy to me this year that I'll definitely be
by the season pick up for next year. I won't
be leaving any longer. But I just just disappointment, Jason,
that's all.
Speaker 9 (21:55):
It is.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Really good on you, Derek passionate words from you as
always love it and you're right. I mean that's what
sport is. You're supposed to be passionate about it. You are.
Thanks for you cool mate. Oh eight one hundred and
eighty ten eight. Michael says. When they showed the side
on TV replay of the goal, the ball went over
behind the near post out of play before curling to
the far post. It was the linesman flagged. It's sorry,
(22:16):
but it was out, says Michael. Tom says, Piney, you
need to move on. People make mistakes, that's all. If
you leave it to the referee to influence the results,
you have not played well enough. Look at aston Villa.
They just lost over one hundred million pounds for an
obvious referee's mistake and their manager said that mistakes are made.
You can watch it one hundred times. The call's been made.
It hurts, but that is sport, Tom, the last bit
(22:37):
of that's absolutely bang on. That is sport. That is sport.
Oval ball fans says this one don't realize the whole
ball has to go over the entire line. Watching the replays,
Mike kicked it before the line and it followed the
line for the first few meters. It's impossible for it
to then bend out and then in terrible call goal
(23:00):
all day. Thanks David, I appreciate it because as there
are financial loss, asks Noel with the VAR decision to
any one. If not, then trust your onfield referees, right
or wrong. It's just a game. Yes. VAR was brought
in at the risk of going down this rabbit hole.
VAR was brought in to eliminate the howler, the decision
(23:24):
that everybody could see but the referee somehow got wrong.
And there was a very famous incident which sent France
to a World Cup at the expense of Ireland because
there was the most blatant handball by tierryon Ree that
everybody saw except for the referee. Handball goal was scored,
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France won, the game went to the World Cup. Ireland didn't.
That was how high stakes it was. VAR was brought
in with the express intension of eliminating that sort of howler. Unfortunately,
what's happened is that VAR has become this tall to
examine in forensic detail every single decision that has made
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that leads to a goal, and so any joy of
a goal being scored has been eliminated because you celebrate,
and then you think to yourself, hang on, is VA
are going to rule this out because a guy's got
a fingernail off side. I preferred the old way when
decisions were made on the field, and we sucked it
(24:29):
up and realized that sometimes people make mistakes. Referees are human.
What THEI has done is dehumanize the game. Text here
seems like such a hard rule to roll on. It's
in the air. Maybe they need to play inside a
perspect's box to eliminate any risk that would be taking
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it to another level, wouldn't it? Twenty nine away from eight.
We'll take some more calls, Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty nine on text back after this?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
The great call is your call on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty sports. Do call on your home of
sports used to.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Twenty six to eight. Chris has hang on that Texas
onto something. Let's play football in the box like squash
would be very entertaining.
Speaker 9 (25:15):
Take Glenn, Hey, Jason, were you commentating on the on
the TV the other night? I was, oh, yeah, that
was good. I didn't realize you'd done the TV commentary
as well. Good word, thanks, Yeah, I just thought that yeah,
(25:38):
it's I mean, Auckland FC has got a lot of
people interested in football now, which was good. Yeah, because
I normally just watched the league, you know, the league
and a bit of the bit of the rugby. But yeah,
it's been good for Auckland doing so so well.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, it certainly opened opened the game up to a
lot more people. Glenn, You're not the only one who's
jumped on board.
Speaker 9 (25:59):
Mate on the bandwagon. Oh no, I was just I
just wanted to mention the I'm pretty sure in the
in the Premier League in England they have like better
technology like they have like a if the ball goes
like that, they can actually look down and from a
(26:21):
from a camera or some sort of senses that are
on the lines and they can actually see if the
balls cross the line or not.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, they can. It's yeah, goal line technology, Glen. It exists.
All Premier League stadiums are fitted with the cameras and
the technology to do just that, Mate. Yes, and that's
why that's why goal line technology actually works very well.
It's like in tennis, you know with a hawkeye where
you can you can see is the ball in or
out and it's it's it's black and white, and so
(26:50):
that's why goal line technology works so well. Yeah, unfortunately
the resources in the A League aren't quite at the
premier league level.
Speaker 9 (26:57):
Yeah, okay, right, yeah, I just wanted to mention that.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Oh, good on you, Glenn. I'm glad you have mate,
and it's it's a very good point you make. Had
that technology been there at media on Saturday, we'd know
one way or another, we would know unequivocally. News Talk's
here being Sports Talk seven thirty six.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
No need for the TMO. We've got the breakdown on
sports Talk Calight News Talks.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Liam Lawson eighth at the Monaco Grand Prix this morning,
picking up his first points of the F one season.
Speaker 10 (27:31):
So hat ja second on seven Lawson eight. What a
great day has been for those three drivers.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Certainly has Motorsport commentator and correspondent Eric Thompson is with
us et How significant is this for Liam? How much
confidence will this give him picking up his first points
of the season.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Partly, this is exactly what he needed. He's had you
and I touched on this before. He's had the only
word I can think I was a pretty thought start
to the season. He's been comprehensileusly beaten by his teammates,
and you know, he's had a bit of bad luck,
had strategy calls, but everything everything came together at Monaco.
(28:11):
He was super fast in practice. He got to Q
three for the first time. You know that everything aligned
at the start around Monaco, stayed out of trouble. Great
race and the team had a brilliant strategy for him
and hadja You know, there's been some of the other
drivers sort of winging and moaning a bit about you know,
(28:32):
he held us up a bit in the drawer or
if any other team had thought of that strategy, any
other team and that entire good would have executed it,
but I don't think they would have honestly finally executed
as well as the racing balls did.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Tell us about that again, tell us about that strategy
because Monico being being a race track that's hard to
pass on, they've introduced two compulsory pit stops. Is that right?
And how did Racing Bulls use that strategy to their
advantage this morning?
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Well, right at the very start, you know they would
have talked about they said, look, had you out qualified you?
So you know we're going to make sure had you
gets a good result and Lawson, you know, be a
good team player, would have gone okay, guys. So what
happened is had You was in front and Lawson was
driving probably ninety six percent ninety seven percent rather than
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one hundred percent, he wasn't racing, racing to catch his teammates,
and the racing balls were gone, okay, let how'd you
get ahead of you so that he can come into
a pit stop? As you right you said, first time
mandatory to stop, get the tires on and still come
out ahead of Lawson, which he did. So it means
Hadja couldn't be you know the phrase undercut overcut in
(29:46):
the pets so loud had you to come out, and
then then they raced along again and Laws and State
behind Aga, and then for the second pit stop, similar thing.
He just lifted off. You're talking tenths of a second.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
You know.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
It's not like that infamous Bathurst David and Fabian Coulthard
was driving at about two kilometers an hour down connod St.
It wasn't as obvious as that, but some of the
other drivers knew and as you rightly said, Piney, you
can't pass around one to go so it's not as
if he could suddenly be monstered, but he was just
that few tenths slower, which again allowed had you to
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get a second pit stop, come out ahead of Lawsons,
then the two of them just race to the finish.
So from a team perspective, both cars got manufacturer's points
and they are the most important points because that's where
the money comes from.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Indeed, you know, so smart team racing from Liam Lawson.
I did see though that he wasn't entirely excited about
his group position. Could he have qualified higher.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
If sinans, pots and pans, you know, the whole thing,
he could have I mean, he was certainly fast, very
very fast, but you're looking at hundreds of the second
around a whole lap, and I think some people think,
you know, like when you blink, that's about just under
a second when you're Island blinks, so you're looking at
it almost a tenth of that. So and around the
(31:07):
whole circuit like that, that's the margin. So if Lawson
had a super clean lap, yeah, he could have been
fourth or fifth. I mean, he wouldn't have been on pole,
but yeah, maybe two or three spots higher. But the
best thing for him and the team, and for Lawson
and his family and close mates and friends and his
(31:30):
personal team around him. Getting points, getting to Q three,
that should be the launch pad for him or the springboard,
whatever allegory you want to use for him to do
really well. This weekend it's the last of the triple header,
and if he can get into the points again the
weekend coming up, now he could be on for a
really good run for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Outstanding here, So that's a grand pro. Now number nine
is just say in Spain this coming weekend, is he
just starting to get the hang of this et?
Speaker 6 (32:03):
Yeah, I think so, Monico. Is he's always liked to Monaco.
In fact, I think he's just moved there so as
you do, of course, Yeah, yeah, you and I might
might be able to afford the walk around the place.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
We'll visit, we'll visit one day.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
This is I won't be able to afford a couple
of cope and so you know, he's moved there, so
that's a good thing. So, but he likes the place.
It's a really tricky place, Monica. You know, you saw,
you know, a couple of accidents and qualifying and practice
and during the race so to manage that car around there.
(32:38):
I think he is finally getting the hang of it.
And I think he's just not over trying anymore, like
we've all done it in the past. You know, things
don't go the right way, so you try too hard,
then you make more mistakes. I think if you just
dial back a bit, and I think, what's really good.
Although he wanted to race, and he wasn't racingas racing,
but he dialed back a little bit like one or
(32:59):
two percent, and look at the result by not over trying,
brought the car home one.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Piece, picked up points.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
So you know, maybe that's.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
A really good thing.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Just while I've got you across the Atlantic Ocean. The
ND five hundred was on at the Brickyard, very wet,
very challenging, and for the key with contingent, not a
day they'll remember with any fine. The Scott mcgloughlin crashed
out in the warm up lap. Scott Dixon had mechanical
as you see, was twenty third. Marcus Armstrong the best
of the three of them in twenty first. Just a
(33:30):
bad day for the kiwis at the brickyard.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Et Oh, maybe a really bad day at the office
for three of them, you'd normally have three Kewis in
that field, one of them would have been in the
top ten. And Dixon was so fast in the two
weeks running up to that for him to get a
break dup fire. I mean that was then at him
and mcglocklam putting it into the wall, and I think
it's the first time since about the seventies somebody's put
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it in the wall during practice. And you know, and
the accidents left, right and center. You know Schwartzman, the
guy put the car on pole, pulled into the pits
and takes out four of his pit crew. Yeah, you know,
it was just one of the weirdest thing. But I
was talking to Scott Dixon before the race and before
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the race weekend and he was saying, the hybrid engines
that they're using the season, and especially they're doing well
over three hundred klimeters an hour around that place, is
that there's a lot of weight out in the rear
of the car. And he was saying, I think he's
quote with something like it acts like a pendulum at
the back of the car. In the past. He was saying,
(34:35):
if it started to slide or step out, you know,
you could catch it and you maybe get a bit
of a twitch and a drift, but you'd be okay.
But he was saying, because there's all this weight hanging
out the back of the car, once it goes, it
just goes. And if you look at the accident, some
of the monster accidents and practice in the run up
and in qualifying to that race, and during the race,
(34:57):
I reckon there's something in that the hybrid engine and
how that extra weight is mounted out the back of
the car could be catching a few of these drivers out,
all right.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Sean Mengezberg, And I see fourteenth at the latest NASCAR
race and Charlotte, that's the second best finish of the season.
He was sixth at the Circuit of the America's back
in early March. How's the goods going in NASCAR?
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Ovals have been his bugbear show. We say road courses.
We all know if he doesn't get punted off, he'll
be there and thereabouts on road courses. But if you
look back at the qualifying for the All Star Race,
he qualified on pole on an oval, So you just
know he's getting the hang of the ovals and some
of all the old stages that have been around for
(35:40):
years and some of the retired NASCAR drivers and said
with shame, the only way you can be fast on
ovals is to spend time on ovals. There's no magic thing,
you know. You can't get a coach to give you
the right thing on ovals. It's just miles after miles
after miles. And if you think about it, he got
one thousand kilometers at the Cocola six hundred. This is
(36:01):
the longest NASCAR race on an oval. And okay, a
little bit of damage to the under neat to the
car when you had to take to the infield, but
other than that, out of trouble. And in fourteenth I
reckon he's well on his way to getting his head
around the ogles. And they're just something weird.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
You know.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
The Americans grow up on ovles. No nobody else in
the rest of the world does.
Speaker 9 (36:21):
Well. It's weird.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yep, good to know he's get on the hang of it.
At always love chatting motorsport with you. Thanks for your
time this evening, mate, we'll catch up again soon.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
You're always a pleasure pony anytime, mate.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Good on you mate. That's Eric Thompson, our motorsport correspondent.
Here on News Talks. He's seven forty five when we
come back. Piney's Power Rankings for the weekend, Our rankings,
Favorite time of the week. Piney's Power Rankings rating the good,
the bad and the in between. Bits from the Sporting Weekend.
(36:54):
The dy five hundred disastrous for the key week contingent
after a challenging wet day at the brickyard. Everybody got
a Crashclaughlin.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
The one thing you don't want it to is to
have your race ended before it's even begun.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
It is, Yeah, just heartbreaking. Scott McLaughlan crashing out on
the warm up lamp. Scott Dixon twenty third after mechanical
issues and Marcus Armstrong the best of the New Zealanders
in twenty first nine Liverpool, they finally get to lift
the Premier League trophy title.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Number twenty tall off the search to Reds are back.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
On their perch.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Eight eight of Sunderland with a dramatic return to the
Premier League.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
The Black Chuts the top talks at Weindley and they
returned to the Premier League after eight two years away.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Their congratulations Sunderland fans, your team with a two to
one win over Sheffield United in the Premier League playoff.
Soon the Warriors. The streak finally comes to an end and.
Speaker 11 (38:00):
The Raiders of Dunnets they're Canda Auckland and they busted
the Warriors home record in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Five sixteen ten to the Raider's just a blift, just
a blip. Don't worry still our year six Auckland FC
no have crushed the party. Auckland FC's remarkable record breaking
first season. No not have a grand finale, just like that.
(38:27):
The dream debut season is over. But you have to
hand it to Auckland FC. What a maiden season it
was five staying with the A League. Melbourne victory fans
are at five. They joined us at Tyler Street Sport
on Saturday, a couple of them.
Speaker 12 (38:42):
I actually booked my flights after I'd tipped a few
beers in and I'm going to Queenstown on Monday. But
I realized the fight home in Melbourne's not till Sunday nights.
If we make the Grand Final, we have to change
you for you do have.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
To change your flight bookings. Demi and fears great to
meet you on Saturday. You've got a Grand Final to
get to sure the Chiefs.
Speaker 11 (39:00):
There's just too many tries on my sheet to go
through and name them all, but thirty.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
One millar at halftime, eighty five to seven at full time.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Not a typo eighty five seven too many tries for
Graham Minty Mead's commentary sheet. They are your super Rugby favorites.
The Chiefs free Liam Lawson at the Monico Grand Prix
this morning.
Speaker 10 (39:20):
So Hatja six on seven Lawson eight. What a great
day has been for those three drivers.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Certainly has much needed points for Liam Lawson. Finally underway
in twenty twenty five, Thomas Hamish kerr Our Olympic gold
medal winning high jumper, soaring above the field again.
Speaker 10 (39:39):
Bar at two twenty five birth to ten Pamish curl
the kiwi oh beautiful, yeah, lovely smooth loss and jump
from Kurler.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Gold at the Diamond League meet in Morocco. That man,
mark my words, will jump two meters forty at some
stage in the not too distant future on the incomparable.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Hush Quick seven tries the greatest ever do it Great records.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Now the Black Fern's leading all time at tri scorer.
You know you are amazing when you lose count I
don't even know how many change the score seven seven seven,
you know, I don't know. There's got so many tries
you lose counts. I guess I I guess I could
(40:31):
have put her at number seven, but they would have
been way too low.
Speaker 11 (40:33):
Yeah, well, Piney, I'm gonna have to have a worthy
about how rankings work. You meant to put football teams
that win stuff ahead of football teams that lose, so
especially you man Liverpool at nine.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
I know, but they won the Premier League a month ago.
All they did was lifted I get it, I get it.
And Malcolm's head, what do you mean finally Piney? What
I mean was finally get to lift it because they
won it, like I say, with a month to spare,
but they don't hand it out till the end.
Speaker 11 (41:03):
Well, then, without wanting to go into what about is in?
What about Sunderland who only just got promoted to the
Premier League this weekend?
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Do you think they're a bit low? I think they're
a bit low as well either way. I mean, look,
I understand, I understand what you're saying. I just I
feel like, you know, you need to have a local
focus in Piney's Power rankings. That's why god Auckland FC
and the Warriors, both of who lost their matches, higher
up the rankings than Sunderland and Liverpool.
Speaker 11 (41:32):
Well we can workshop this for the Pioneer, but.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Better Okay, look I'm to take it. Look, all feedback
is a gift. All feedback is a gifting.
Speaker 11 (41:42):
You went slightly into touch.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
All right, okay, but they are not available to rule
on Piney's Power rankings, but they will return next Monday night.
And as we approached three minutes to eight, that is
us on Sports Talk for tonight. Thank you so much
for tuning in. Tim Rocksborough is in the chair after
eight o'clock for Marcus Lush to take you through the
(42:05):
rest of this Monday evening. Huge thanks also to Annie
McDonald for producing the show both today and across the
weekend as well. Enjoy a couple of days off, mate.
We will see you or you'll hear from us on
Weekend Sport this coming Saturday from midday through until three
final weekend of Super Rugby Round Robin, and then we'll
have our Top six focus on rugby across the weekend. Hey,
(42:28):
enjoy the rest of your week and We'll chat you
on Sunday. Bye now.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
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