July 17, 2024 • 8 mins
New Zealand Cricket has announced all the international fixtures for the upcoming summer.
We already knew about the Black Caps' three tests against England - after those happen, the boys have white ball matches against Sri Lanka and a tri-series in Pakistan.
Black Caps head coach Gary Stead spoke to Elliott about the upcoming season, and whether he's any closer to selecting our new captain for the shorter forms of the game.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Waldergrave
from Newstalk SEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Forget the refs.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Call, you make a call on eighty eighty Sports Talk
on your home of Sport News Talk SAB Talks B. Well,
the international shoed deal for the summer is we already
knew about the three tests against England to start the
summer Hagley Overland, christ Church at the end of November,
then onto the Basin Reserve and Sedon Park. The rest
of the summer filled in for the black Caps. They
(00:35):
have Sri Lanka in T twenties and one days either
side of the New Year. Then they're off to Pakistan
for a try series and then the Champions Trophy and
then they come back in mid March and play some
more T twenties and ODII zre. The White fans also
welcoming Austraandia and Sri Lanka over the course of the summer.
(00:56):
Gary Stead to spoke with him earlier today is New
Zealand Cricket launched the Summer of Cricket and began by
asking him about about the prospect of having the home
summer Lockton.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I think there's three fantastic teams that are coming over here.
Obviously England to kick off the Test series as a
big one. We had a fantastic series with them last
time that they were over so getting to play three
Tests as always was magic as well, from I think
from a purest point of view. Then Sri Lanka and Pakistan,
who come here as well in between the ICC Champions Trophy,
(01:30):
are two very, very competent teams and I think it's
nice to play that sort of the style that they play.
Sri Lanka are an exciting team. They have a few
Malinger like type bowlers in their lineup, so that seems
to becoming the norm. I think a little bit more
when you play against teams like Sri Lanka.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I've got a bit of cricket to come before then.
But how much have you been watching England West Indy
series and taking a note there? Obviously no James Anderson
coming down he's retired, but a few new players on
the scene for them.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah. Atkinson obviously come onto the scene and bob beautifully
in that Test match. He's obviously got some pace. We've
seen him in the white ball series. It's just in
the past, so I think he'll be a handful over here.
But look, I mean low all teams they you through
stages of transition in England have gone through that. I
think with BroadOn Ansen now and I guess with us
(02:17):
Wagner left last year and there's been a few changes
over the last few years and what our team looks like.
So you can think back to the winning the World
Test Championship and we've now lost the likes of Ross
Taylor and Colinder grond Home, Neil Wagner, so Trent Bolts.
It certainly looks a bit different for all teams.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
It does three od eyes before the World Cup, sorry,
before the champions Trophy then some in Pakistan is that
a big enough warm up for the champions Trophy?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Well, I think I think we're coming off some game
while we are coming off games with Sri Lanka before
then as well, so there'll be three ody eyes there. Look,
I mean the good the advantage of being in Pakistan
is a climatization playing on their wickets and we're playing
Pakistan and South Africa who are two very very competent
sides as well, so I think in terms of readiness
(03:04):
and competition then then that's as good as what we
could ask for.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Is that just how will cricket goes. You sort of
want to the next thing, and you move on from
one thing to the next, and you don't have a
lot of time to prepare or conditionalize for various things.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I think over the last three or four years, what
I've seen is that's happened more and more. You gather
a team three or four days before the first game
wherever you are in the world, and you go on
and you play your best you can. And I think
the franchise leagues around the world have only added to
that more so I think it's become the norm now
and I think will be the norm in the future.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Frustrate you as a coach that you know, the franchise
leagues are not the pinnacle necessarily, but the financial pinnacle
of the game, and now international cricket has to sort
of play a little catch up or squeeze in when
they can. Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I think international cricket for me, was still the thing
that people aspire to and I hope that continues to
be the case in New Zealand because I think that's very,
very important. And whilst a number of guys haven't taken
contracts for us. Don't lose sight that they are still
very committed to New Zealand and want to play for
New Zealand. It's just these opportunities do pop.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Up from time to time. And I kin Williamson obviously said,
you said he's taking this contract overseas and not taking
a New Zealand contract, and so he'll be available for
the entirety of the home summer. But there's just thats
of the African League that he won't be that he'll
be wayful.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, I think one of the things with Cain that
him and I are talking about is his longevity in
the game. And I'm sure New Zealand fans want to
seekin Williamson play for as long as they can. So
my hope is that we can plan things well with
Cain that we could have him playing for another three
or so years and right through to another World Cup potentially,
And that's what I'll certainly be aiming to do with him,
(04:42):
and then we work backwards from there and say, well,
what's this look like in his schedule in the future,
And like I think, if Caine plays nineteen out of
twenty five games, it's still a good result for New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
How much more of Lucky Ferguson, for example, might we
see in New Zealand Jersy though, well.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Luck he's still again shown He's made it very clear
to me he still wants to play for New Zealand. Again,
He's got an opportunity in a different league to Caine
and the UAE League and he's taken that up. And
I think it's certainly recognizing that players are at different
stages of their career, and there's no doubt Cain Lucky
are at the back end of their careers. So it
(05:20):
comes down to I think them making the decisions that
best suit their family of where they're at right now
in their careers.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I'm sure you've reviewed the T twenty World Cup. What's
that told you?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It's frustrating and I think, yeah, you walk away from
it feeling a bit lost and empty. Really, I think
there were a number of contributing factors. Way we didn't
get perhaps the games under our belt that we wanted
to at the start, and sort of just having the
players really ready in firing for that first game. So
(05:54):
I think we all have to look at ourselves around
that and what that looks like. But certainly things were
changed and flipped on our head from what we were
expecting in the past with ICC events. That's causing I
think some of the frustration. Afghanistan played very good cricket
against US, and certainly we weren't underestimating them and to
(06:15):
see them go right through to the semi final wasn't
a huge surprise to me. And then we've got beaten
by an outstanding innings from Rutherford against West Indies, and
I mean, if you win that, it could have been
a very different tournament and looked very different. So I
think we've got to be careful. We don't Yeah, we
don't blow it up completely, but obviously it was a
disappointment and frustrating.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
You mentioned the ICC. Were you expecting war warm up
games or is this feedback being sent to the ic C.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, Look, we knew that our players were going to
be there when our original games were scheduled and asked
for later ones, which was denied. In the past, you've
never been able to put staff on a field to play,
yet Australia seemed to be able to do that. The
other sort of frustrations that irked me it was only
at the twenty twenty three World Cup that we weren't
(07:02):
allowed to have a staff member even run drinks for us.
So the other sort of angs that did happen and
worked against us at that tournament.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
How committed to you to still be in the coaching
all three formats goaring?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Look, I mean that's always up for discussion. I've been
with the team for a long time and I certainly
love working with this group of players. I think the
thing that's important to me as we keep trying to
get better every day and as long as we're seeing
that from the players, and I'd be certainly motivated to
keep working with them.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You've got a White Bull captain to a points. How
far down the track are you with those conversations with
who you want to appoint or who you're talking to.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, look, I think we've still got a couple of
options to keep considering. We don't have a White Bull
series until November, and then that's plunked between a very
very busy test series as well, so in preparation potentially
for an England series. So that's part of our thinking.
But I can say I think the decision we get to,
(07:56):
will it be about the long term future of certainly
ODI cricket, and we'd want that captain to go through
and captain right through to the od I worked.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Up for us, say White Bull captain. Could you split
that again down to ODIs and ten twenty.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Absolutely it could be and you could go Test and
ODII captain together as well. So I think there's different
options to look at it, and I think the way
the changing landscape of the world is at the moment
then that those sort of conversations aren't out the realms
of possibility.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It was an exciting day when that should you get
to release look forward to the home Starmer. Thanks Gary,
Thanks Elliott Cheiz. Gary Seed's with me a bit earlier
on today at the season launch for New Zealand Cricket.
For more from Sports Talk, listen live to News Talks.
It'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Waldergrave
from Newstalk SEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Forget the refs.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Call, you make a call on eighty eighty Sports Talk
on your home of Sport News Talk SAB Talks B. Well,
the international shoed deal for the summer is we already
knew about the three tests against England to start the
summer Hagley Overland, christ Church at the end of November,
then onto the Basin Reserve and Sedon Park. The rest
of the summer filled in for the black Caps. They
(00:35):
have Sri Lanka in T twenties and one days either
side of the New Year. Then they're off to Pakistan
for a try series and then the Champions Trophy and
then they come back in mid March and play some
more T twenties and ODII zre. The White fans also
welcoming Austraandia and Sri Lanka over the course of the summer.
(00:56):
Gary Stead to spoke with him earlier today is New
Zealand Cricket launched the Summer of Cricket and began by
asking him about about the prospect of having the home
summer Lockton.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I think there's three fantastic teams that are coming over here.
Obviously England to kick off the Test series as a
big one. We had a fantastic series with them last
time that they were over so getting to play three
Tests as always was magic as well, from I think
from a purest point of view. Then Sri Lanka and Pakistan,
who come here as well in between the ICC Champions Trophy,
(01:30):
are two very, very competent teams and I think it's
nice to play that sort of the style that they play.
Sri Lanka are an exciting team. They have a few
Malinger like type bowlers in their lineup, so that seems
to becoming the norm. I think a little bit more
when you play against teams like Sri Lanka.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I've got a bit of cricket to come before then.
But how much have you been watching England West Indy
series and taking a note there? Obviously no James Anderson
coming down he's retired, but a few new players on
the scene for them.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah. Atkinson obviously come onto the scene and bob beautifully
in that Test match. He's obviously got some pace. We've
seen him in the white ball series. It's just in
the past, so I think he'll be a handful over here.
But look, I mean low all teams they you through
stages of transition in England have gone through that. I
think with BroadOn Ansen now and I guess with us
(02:17):
Wagner left last year and there's been a few changes
over the last few years and what our team looks like.
So you can think back to the winning the World
Test Championship and we've now lost the likes of Ross
Taylor and Colinder grond Home, Neil Wagner, so Trent Bolts.
It certainly looks a bit different for all teams.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
It does three od eyes before the World Cup, sorry,
before the champions Trophy then some in Pakistan is that
a big enough warm up for the champions Trophy?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Well, I think I think we're coming off some game
while we are coming off games with Sri Lanka before
then as well, so there'll be three ody eyes there. Look,
I mean the good the advantage of being in Pakistan
is a climatization playing on their wickets and we're playing
Pakistan and South Africa who are two very very competent
sides as well, so I think in terms of readiness
(03:04):
and competition then then that's as good as what we
could ask for.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Is that just how will cricket goes. You sort of
want to the next thing, and you move on from
one thing to the next, and you don't have a
lot of time to prepare or conditionalize for various things.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I think over the last three or four years, what
I've seen is that's happened more and more. You gather
a team three or four days before the first game
wherever you are in the world, and you go on
and you play your best you can. And I think
the franchise leagues around the world have only added to
that more so I think it's become the norm now
and I think will be the norm in the future.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Frustrate you as a coach that you know, the franchise
leagues are not the pinnacle necessarily, but the financial pinnacle
of the game, and now international cricket has to sort
of play a little catch up or squeeze in when
they can. Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I think international cricket for me, was still the thing
that people aspire to and I hope that continues to
be the case in New Zealand because I think that's very,
very important. And whilst a number of guys haven't taken
contracts for us. Don't lose sight that they are still
very committed to New Zealand and want to play for
New Zealand. It's just these opportunities do pop.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Up from time to time. And I kin Williamson obviously said,
you said he's taking this contract overseas and not taking
a New Zealand contract, and so he'll be available for
the entirety of the home summer. But there's just thats
of the African League that he won't be that he'll
be wayful.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, I think one of the things with Cain that
him and I are talking about is his longevity in
the game. And I'm sure New Zealand fans want to
seekin Williamson play for as long as they can. So
my hope is that we can plan things well with
Cain that we could have him playing for another three
or so years and right through to another World Cup potentially,
And that's what I'll certainly be aiming to do with him,
(04:42):
and then we work backwards from there and say, well,
what's this look like in his schedule in the future,
And like I think, if Caine plays nineteen out of
twenty five games, it's still a good result for New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
How much more of Lucky Ferguson, for example, might we
see in New Zealand Jersy though, well.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Luck he's still again shown He's made it very clear
to me he still wants to play for New Zealand. Again,
He's got an opportunity in a different league to Caine
and the UAE League and he's taken that up. And
I think it's certainly recognizing that players are at different
stages of their career, and there's no doubt Cain Lucky
are at the back end of their careers. So it
(05:20):
comes down to I think them making the decisions that
best suit their family of where they're at right now
in their careers.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I'm sure you've reviewed the T twenty World Cup. What's
that told you?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It's frustrating and I think, yeah, you walk away from
it feeling a bit lost and empty. Really, I think
there were a number of contributing factors. Way we didn't
get perhaps the games under our belt that we wanted
to at the start, and sort of just having the
players really ready in firing for that first game. So
(05:54):
I think we all have to look at ourselves around
that and what that looks like. But certainly things were
changed and flipped on our head from what we were
expecting in the past with ICC events. That's causing I
think some of the frustration. Afghanistan played very good cricket
against US, and certainly we weren't underestimating them and to
(06:15):
see them go right through to the semi final wasn't
a huge surprise to me. And then we've got beaten
by an outstanding innings from Rutherford against West Indies, and
I mean, if you win that, it could have been
a very different tournament and looked very different. So I
think we've got to be careful. We don't Yeah, we
don't blow it up completely, but obviously it was a
disappointment and frustrating.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
You mentioned the ICC. Were you expecting war warm up
games or is this feedback being sent to the ic C.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, Look, we knew that our players were going to
be there when our original games were scheduled and asked
for later ones, which was denied. In the past, you've
never been able to put staff on a field to play,
yet Australia seemed to be able to do that. The
other sort of frustrations that irked me it was only
at the twenty twenty three World Cup that we weren't
(07:02):
allowed to have a staff member even run drinks for us.
So the other sort of angs that did happen and
worked against us at that tournament.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
How committed to you to still be in the coaching
all three formats goaring?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Look, I mean that's always up for discussion. I've been
with the team for a long time and I certainly
love working with this group of players. I think the
thing that's important to me as we keep trying to
get better every day and as long as we're seeing
that from the players, and I'd be certainly motivated to
keep working with them.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You've got a White Bull captain to a points. How
far down the track are you with those conversations with
who you want to appoint or who you're talking to.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, look, I think we've still got a couple of
options to keep considering. We don't have a White Bull
series until November, and then that's plunked between a very
very busy test series as well, so in preparation potentially
for an England series. So that's part of our thinking.
But I can say I think the decision we get to,
(07:56):
will it be about the long term future of certainly
ODI cricket, and we'd want that captain to go through
and captain right through to the od I worked.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Up for us, say White Bull captain. Could you split
that again down to ODIs and ten twenty.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Absolutely it could be and you could go Test and
ODII captain together as well. So I think there's different
options to look at it, and I think the way
the changing landscape of the world is at the moment
then that those sort of conversations aren't out the realms
of possibility.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It was an exciting day when that should you get
to release look forward to the home Starmer. Thanks Gary,
Thanks Elliott Cheiz. Gary Seed's with me a bit earlier
on today at the season launch for New Zealand Cricket.
For more from Sports Talk, listen live to News Talks.
It'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
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