August 8, 2024 • 8 mins
Kiwi jumper Hamish Kerr joined D'Arcy Waldegrave post his tense qualifying effort at the Paris Olympics.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wilder
Grave from News Talk Zed.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be let's talk a little bit games on the program,
and we're speaking now to Hamish Curve, high jumper extraordinary,
who I think last a few years of his life
when he nearly jumped himself out of the high jump
at the Olympic Games. Hamish, you scared me stupid last night.
What about yourself? I mean the look on your face
(00:31):
after you finally cleared what was it? Two twenty? Said
at all? But they were scary?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, Oh look, I mean I definitely made that harder
than it they just went, that's for sure. But yeah,
I think it's a funny thing about qualifying, right, It's
just it's just a different ballgame. Like you know, we
go out there all the time and compete until until you.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Know, one person's left standing.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
That twelve guys left standing is just a different mentality,
and I think that it just goes to show that,
especially at the Olympics, you know, anything can happen. So yeah,
look I was I was actually just crapping myself and
I was just so glad that I had my coach
there and he was able to tell.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Me still lie on the things that I'm really good at.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And we got across the line, and yeah, I'd like
to apologize to Effer at home, because I've apologized to
a few people already, but I think there's a lot
of people out there who probably where we had had
a few stressful moments over that one. A few.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I watched it on replay and I thought, don't do
this to yourself, Dabs, this is no good. Hey, tell
us Samus, what the coach said to you? What was
his message, his words to try and calm your farm.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It was just around like going back to what we
trust and what we've been really really like stripped on
working on this year.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I think that's the amazing thing is you know, I.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Was probably I was in a very situation Well, I
was actually in a very similar situation last year and Budapest,
when I also didn't make it through to the final
on my third attempt day, I sort of felt a
little bit directionless and felt like I tried had to
try really hard to clear the height and Budapest I didn't,
whereas here, you know, it was just a different mindset
and it was actually just around slowing down and just
(02:03):
really just making sure today I was trying to achieve
the technique that I really wanted to achieve.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I was sort of hurrying into my first.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Two jumps and that it's quite sort of a scary
prospects not feeling like you need to do more to
clear the jump, actually needing to do the left clear
to clear the jump. And so I was really happy
that he was there to just guide me through that,
and then ultimately I was able to trust just calming
down a little bit and just taking it really easy
and I got the good result.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So frustrated, mate, knowing what you're doing wrong, but being
unable in the first two jumps to actually rain that in. Again,
that's some mental gymnastics for your Hamish.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, it's like, I mean, that's the toughest jump for
my career so far, like hands down, and I think
that I am just so so proud.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I mean, afterwards, I.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Called MYOS coach and he's like, look, mate, like I'm
actually really happy that you had that corfine because you're
ready now, you know, to get a third a temp
like that to back up against the wall and then
to just absolutely nail a two twenty sevens top the poll.
You know, Pat's two very very different pictures in terms
of us. But also it just shows that the kind
of the bandwidth live of mental mental skills is very
(03:12):
much there and very much ready to be drawn upon
on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Impossible to train for the situation you described with so
many men ready to jump. It's not something you can
put in practice out in the backyard. You actually have
to be there. So the way athletes cope with news
stresses at the moment, that's what the Olympic Games is
all about, surely.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
And I think you know, like we've we've seen with
like a number of performances from from various sports that
you know, the Olympics just brings out different things and
people and you know, everyone's here to play, everyone's here
to put the best foot them on the line and
best forward I suppose. So yeah, it's just trying to
ride with that and also just try and bring mind
(03:58):
as well.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
So what happens between now in finals time? What is
your process there? Have you got something set in stone
that you're not going to wriggle from We've any superstitions
before this happens.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I'm going to be taking it very easy today, that's
for sure. I was hoping for a few less jumps yesterday,
so my body is a little bit tuckered.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
But yeah, it's just around.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Wristner recovery now and then, and then once once I
get out there on Saturday, my body will know what
to do.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
And I'll be all ready to go.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Is the the other athletes involved in this? How much
focus do you have on them when it's very much
an individual pursuit. But you must be aware of the
jumpers around you and how they've dealt with it. Is
that something you consider or not?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
No, not really. I mean I was aware of what
was going on in qualifying. I think you know, I
wasn't the only jumper who struggled. There was you know,
the two eleven champions both had the moments. One of
them didn't even clear to two two seven but still
made the qualifying. There was a there was a couple
of upsets, but they always there, always is. So yeah,
I think I think the thing is the qualifying like
(05:01):
that is that everything just starts again on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
So you know, with a p who have had.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Shaky qualifyings like me or really good ones, you know,
it doesn't actually count for anything now and it's all
about Saturday.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well, I mean you look at like the Italian Tamberry
and the kata jumper Bashim and what happened with them
through that they still got through. So you have to
have the ability to break the revision mirrors off because
it just doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Now, does it. No.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
No, And that's the thing with something that high jumpers.
You know, there's so much technique involved, in so much
rhythm that's involved that you know someone can jump what
looks like not very well and then sure enough to
two days later come out and just absolutely smash the fields.
So yeah, it's it's not something to be complacent about,
and it's something that we're just working on what we
(05:51):
need to do to achieve and hopefully we can get
the good result.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I heard you name is Ker earlier on on the
piece talking about how your success in the Diamond League
has mean that you hadn't had to take plane, B, C,
D or anything. You're still on the line, you're on.
Is that a us that at all after what happened
last night?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
No, No, it hasn't.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I mean, and that's the cool thing is, you know,
these these challenging situations that we've got challenged with last night,
we're probably probably slightly more challenging than shure they're going
to be, and probably you know, a third teen to
two twenty wasn't quite on the Bingo card. But I
think that the kind of tenacity and the trust and
the process and the and the real good, kind of
(06:32):
good relationship I've got with my coach and with my
own body now is what we've been really working towards.
And so yeah, sure it didn't feel like the final
challenge that we were trying to really achieve. It did
feel like something that you know, we were ready to
tackle hit on. And so I think that's what I'm
really proud of is yeah, this, this, this, Probably I
(06:52):
wouldn't have cleared that height if I hadn't done all
the amazing work I've done in the lead up, and
so yeah, I can really cred it that to what
got me across the line?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Is it worth thinking about what you might be capable
of height wise? Not metal? You've got a target there?
Do you go through that or not?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Uh? Yeah, oh, used to know.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I mean, we don't talk about it as a team,
but I think at the same time, you know, the
clearances like they do were really good.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
They're two twenty seven. I just sailed over and I
felt like I still had a lot left in the tanks.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So yeah, I think I think that if I can
put it all together, then you know, I could be
doing PB. I could be going into the high thirties.
But at the same time, I think that you know,
we showed not just maybe all the high jumps showed
yesterday that I think it's going to be a bettle
of nerves as well. So yeah, I think that if
I can do anything in the mid thirties, then the.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
We're complete good namous kur will let you get back
to doing nothing shortly. Just one last thing that watching
the TV from the back in my living room. Wow,
how's the energy in that stadium? It must be extraordinary
being in there.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
What a place. Yeah, I mean I think I was
actually probably a little bit overwhelmed to begin with. It
was just something else, Like, you know, we compete in
decently sized stadiums, We dine in the league all the time,
but that is just something else. I mean, you know,
to have seventy seven thousand people with a qualifying sessions,
you know, often often you have good sessions in the
afternoon in the finals. But you know to have it
(08:15):
also in this Quie Fine. It's just absolutely I heard. Yeah,
it was awesome, but also it was superspicial because my
girlfriend and all my siblings were there in the crowd
as well. So yeah, I actually did make the mistake
of looking over at them after my second kit, and
that's at two twenty, and I think none of them
looked at that Stokes. My girlfriend kind of had a
hit in their hands and my sister was trying to
console her. But thankfully I was able to get across
(08:36):
the line for them as well.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I love the family connection. I love your smile when
you got all over, and love the fat you're smiling
now you're real start mate, looking forward to the action
Sunday morning. You see on time in the high jump,
Ham and s.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Thanks for yours, Thanks sach Mate. Thanks for more from
Sports Talk.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Listen live to News Talks it'd be from seven pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wilder
Grave from News Talk Zed.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be let's talk a little bit games on the program,
and we're speaking now to Hamish Curve, high jumper extraordinary,
who I think last a few years of his life
when he nearly jumped himself out of the high jump
at the Olympic Games. Hamish, you scared me stupid last night.
What about yourself? I mean the look on your face
(00:31):
after you finally cleared what was it? Two twenty? Said
at all? But they were scary?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, Oh look, I mean I definitely made that harder
than it they just went, that's for sure. But yeah,
I think it's a funny thing about qualifying, right, It's
just it's just a different ballgame. Like you know, we
go out there all the time and compete until until you.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Know, one person's left standing.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
That twelve guys left standing is just a different mentality,
and I think that it just goes to show that,
especially at the Olympics, you know, anything can happen. So yeah,
look I was I was actually just crapping myself and
I was just so glad that I had my coach
there and he was able to tell.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Me still lie on the things that I'm really good at.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And we got across the line, and yeah, I'd like
to apologize to Effer at home, because I've apologized to
a few people already, but I think there's a lot
of people out there who probably where we had had
a few stressful moments over that one. A few.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I watched it on replay and I thought, don't do
this to yourself, Dabs, this is no good. Hey, tell
us Samus, what the coach said to you? What was
his message, his words to try and calm your farm.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It was just around like going back to what we
trust and what we've been really really like stripped on
working on this year.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I think that's the amazing thing is you know, I.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Was probably I was in a very situation Well, I
was actually in a very similar situation last year and Budapest,
when I also didn't make it through to the final
on my third attempt day, I sort of felt a
little bit directionless and felt like I tried had to
try really hard to clear the height and Budapest I didn't,
whereas here, you know, it was just a different mindset
and it was actually just around slowing down and just
(02:03):
really just making sure today I was trying to achieve
the technique that I really wanted to achieve.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I was sort of hurrying into my first.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Two jumps and that it's quite sort of a scary
prospects not feeling like you need to do more to
clear the jump, actually needing to do the left clear
to clear the jump. And so I was really happy
that he was there to just guide me through that,
and then ultimately I was able to trust just calming
down a little bit and just taking it really easy
and I got the good result.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So frustrated, mate, knowing what you're doing wrong, but being
unable in the first two jumps to actually rain that in. Again,
that's some mental gymnastics for your Hamish.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, it's like, I mean, that's the toughest jump for
my career so far, like hands down, and I think
that I am just so so proud.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I mean, afterwards, I.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Called MYOS coach and he's like, look, mate, like I'm
actually really happy that you had that corfine because you're
ready now, you know, to get a third a temp
like that to back up against the wall and then
to just absolutely nail a two twenty sevens top the poll.
You know, Pat's two very very different pictures in terms
of us. But also it just shows that the kind
of the bandwidth live of mental mental skills is very
(03:12):
much there and very much ready to be drawn upon
on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Impossible to train for the situation you described with so
many men ready to jump. It's not something you can
put in practice out in the backyard. You actually have
to be there. So the way athletes cope with news
stresses at the moment, that's what the Olympic Games is
all about, surely.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
And I think you know, like we've we've seen with
like a number of performances from from various sports that
you know, the Olympics just brings out different things and
people and you know, everyone's here to play, everyone's here
to put the best foot them on the line and
best forward I suppose. So yeah, it's just trying to
ride with that and also just try and bring mind
(03:58):
as well.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
So what happens between now in finals time? What is
your process there? Have you got something set in stone
that you're not going to wriggle from We've any superstitions
before this happens.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I'm going to be taking it very easy today, that's
for sure. I was hoping for a few less jumps yesterday,
so my body is a little bit tuckered.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
But yeah, it's just around.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Wristner recovery now and then, and then once once I
get out there on Saturday, my body will know what
to do.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
And I'll be all ready to go.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Is the the other athletes involved in this? How much
focus do you have on them when it's very much
an individual pursuit. But you must be aware of the
jumpers around you and how they've dealt with it. Is
that something you consider or not?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
No, not really. I mean I was aware of what
was going on in qualifying. I think you know, I
wasn't the only jumper who struggled. There was you know,
the two eleven champions both had the moments. One of
them didn't even clear to two two seven but still
made the qualifying. There was a there was a couple
of upsets, but they always there, always is. So yeah,
I think I think the thing is the qualifying like
(05:01):
that is that everything just starts again on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
So you know, with a p who have had.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Shaky qualifyings like me or really good ones, you know,
it doesn't actually count for anything now and it's all
about Saturday.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well, I mean you look at like the Italian Tamberry
and the kata jumper Bashim and what happened with them
through that they still got through. So you have to
have the ability to break the revision mirrors off because
it just doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Now, does it. No.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
No, And that's the thing with something that high jumpers.
You know, there's so much technique involved, in so much
rhythm that's involved that you know someone can jump what
looks like not very well and then sure enough to
two days later come out and just absolutely smash the fields.
So yeah, it's it's not something to be complacent about,
and it's something that we're just working on what we
(05:51):
need to do to achieve and hopefully we can get
the good result.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I heard you name is Ker earlier on on the
piece talking about how your success in the Diamond League
has mean that you hadn't had to take plane, B, C,
D or anything. You're still on the line, you're on.
Is that a us that at all after what happened
last night?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
No, No, it hasn't.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I mean, and that's the cool thing is, you know,
these these challenging situations that we've got challenged with last night,
we're probably probably slightly more challenging than shure they're going
to be, and probably you know, a third teen to
two twenty wasn't quite on the Bingo card. But I
think that the kind of tenacity and the trust and
the process and the and the real good, kind of
(06:32):
good relationship I've got with my coach and with my
own body now is what we've been really working towards.
And so yeah, sure it didn't feel like the final
challenge that we were trying to really achieve. It did
feel like something that you know, we were ready to
tackle hit on. And so I think that's what I'm
really proud of is yeah, this, this, this, Probably I
(06:52):
wouldn't have cleared that height if I hadn't done all
the amazing work I've done in the lead up, and
so yeah, I can really cred it that to what
got me across the line?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Is it worth thinking about what you might be capable
of height wise? Not metal? You've got a target there?
Do you go through that or not?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Uh? Yeah, oh, used to know.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I mean, we don't talk about it as a team,
but I think at the same time, you know, the
clearances like they do were really good.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
They're two twenty seven. I just sailed over and I
felt like I still had a lot left in the tanks.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So yeah, I think I think that if I can
put it all together, then you know, I could be
doing PB. I could be going into the high thirties.
But at the same time, I think that you know,
we showed not just maybe all the high jumps showed
yesterday that I think it's going to be a bettle
of nerves as well. So yeah, I think that if
I can do anything in the mid thirties, then the.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
We're complete good namous kur will let you get back
to doing nothing shortly. Just one last thing that watching
the TV from the back in my living room. Wow,
how's the energy in that stadium? It must be extraordinary
being in there.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
What a place. Yeah, I mean I think I was
actually probably a little bit overwhelmed to begin with. It
was just something else, Like, you know, we compete in
decently sized stadiums, We dine in the league all the time,
but that is just something else. I mean, you know,
to have seventy seven thousand people with a qualifying sessions,
you know, often often you have good sessions in the
afternoon in the finals. But you know to have it
(08:15):
also in this Quie Fine. It's just absolutely I heard. Yeah,
it was awesome, but also it was superspicial because my
girlfriend and all my siblings were there in the crowd
as well. So yeah, I actually did make the mistake
of looking over at them after my second kit, and
that's at two twenty, and I think none of them
looked at that Stokes. My girlfriend kind of had a
hit in their hands and my sister was trying to
console her. But thankfully I was able to get across
(08:36):
the line for them as well.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I love the family connection. I love your smile when
you got all over, and love the fat you're smiling
now you're real start mate, looking forward to the action
Sunday morning. You see on time in the high jump,
Ham and s.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Thanks for yours, Thanks sach Mate. Thanks for more from
Sports Talk.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Listen live to News Talks it'd be from seven pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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