September 17, 2024 • 7 mins
The Black Caps are well aware any subcontinent success will be key if they want to return to cricket's World Test Championship final.
The New Zealand side are set to start their first of two tests with Sri Lanka tomorrow - before heading to India for a three-match series.
Assistant coach Luke Ronchi joined D'Arcy to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildergrave
from News Talk ZB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
News Talk c B, Talking cricket now black Caps in Action.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well we hope. So anyway, first test of two up
against Sri Lanka over drink. We're joined by the assistant
coach Luke a Ronky Luke.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Welcome to the program. Let's cut to the chaste. Please
tell me the forecast is good.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Yes, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It is.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
It's a lot better obviously than what it was and
against the AFRIGHA and so it's it's I think everyone's
really excited for the fact of getting some some test
cricket under underway.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Look, I don't want to dwell on that Washedouse Test
because it was a disaster, But from a mental standpoint,
how was that for you and the players? Five days
of not really knowing, five days of out and out boredom,
five days of frustration. That's probably quite a difficult few
days to go through.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Yeah, it is because again, like everyone like you do
all the prep, you're already and mentally like right on
this day is when we're going to start sort of
a big test block for us, and the guys were excited,
but then you could sort of also tell early on
with the way the ground was looking in the weather
about it's like it was going to be quite a
difficult little period. And then it just kept raining like
it was. The unfortunate thing is would have some sunny days,
(01:19):
but it would rain overnight. And then obviously the last
few days there was actually no change because it rain
during the day anyway. But the guys were just like
they just I guess each each evening almost sort of
like mentally prep thinking that right tomorrow we could be on.
Let's just see what happens. And then obviously that would
all change. But the guys that they did really well
to sort of make sure that they were up and
(01:39):
ready to go if needs be. But you can see
like just the changing our like in our moods once
we got to Sri Lanka where you're outside a little
bit more and you're sort of the weather's different, you're
ready for it for something a different challenge, and then
the guys are sort of raring to go. The trainings
have been great, and again the guys are all excited
for tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
What's looking like as far as the deck, You're not
going to tell me. The team you never do. I'm
almost going to give up asking, but give us an
idea about what we've got out there in the middle.
Stop laughing at Luke that.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
It's good that you've worked it out.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Come on a twenty year.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I'll try all sorts of ways of do I'm going
to work. Tell us about the det what's it going
to do, Luke?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Traditionally here it is it's a spinning surface. The fast
bowlers don't that it have massive workloads at this place.
But again it gets hot and so the spinners have
a big role to play in the in the match
and making sure that the runs are hard to score
for any batters. And I guess it's it's it can
be just that atricious type of cricket where you know
you could be out there for a long time in
the heat and understanding your roles with the ball fast bowlers.
(02:40):
It's it's short, sharp, sort of impactful little spells, and
then the spinners get into a into a mode of
just hitting a spot and asking question of batters for
for a long long periods of time. So it can
be a little bit more old school sort of Test cricket.
But I love that sort of Test cricket. I think
that sort of it's where you see different skill sets
come out and and different tactical things happen. You're going
to work out over five days how to make the
(03:02):
most of their conditions and sort of get your side
in a pointing in the right direction to try and
get a result that you're after.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You've got plenty of tweakers in the team, some of
them have all round roles, so I suppose that determines
the selection of the spinners that don't bat so well.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Is it down to maybe.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Just one that might get the nod you're going to
maybe attack full noise with all of.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Your saying it with a few little slow just oh,
but we are in a position, like you said, we're
lucky enough with we do have some more round like
spin options as well. So we've got all these different
options up our sleeve, and that it is making sure
that the combinations and what we're after and it works,
I guess against the opposition that you're planning against as well.
(03:46):
So I mean, as you know, those are all the
questions and thoughts that go through Steady and Tim's mind
and the conversations with senior players and what they sort
of look in the wicket and also we're lucky enough
to have rung at a hairs with us at the
moment for these tests as well, so using his knowledge
of the surface and the ground and picking his brakes
obviously took a lot of tests. Wik its hairsts like right,
(04:06):
got enough understanding of what's about and we just sort
of pick accordingly. Really hopefully.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Luke Ronkey, what do you know about Sri Lanka and
their form?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Well, obviously they've just been in England. They had a
good Test win to finish off the series over there,
so they'll be coming in full of confidence and buzzing
after winning over there at the Eyeball sets. It's going
to be a fantastic series. It's again it's it's big
for both teams with World Test Championship points going and
it's exciting. We're in their conditions. They know this ground
(04:35):
well and it's I think that's the best part of
it as everyone's coming into this with full confidence and
excited for a challenge from both teams.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Play me, picking the turn is going to be the
difficult thing and more time spent on the deck the better.
But with the weather you've had, I'm presuming not a
great deal of time outside in those conditions, maybe an
insight have you preped this from a batting perspective.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
We've been quite lucky with the facilities at home. We
had three camps leading into to coming over this way,
and we're like the peeps looking after all. The wickets
were awesome in terms of making them turn and balance
and a bit slow, and different surfaces to prep the
guys as much as we could. So then it's like
just challenging guys in different ways and trying to come
(05:24):
up with different plans to just to combat what we
might face here. So then it's like you sort of
you go from extremes and training, so then you get
into a game and hopefully everyone's trusting the work they've
done and it's it's just like they go into a
zone and that they have their plan A and they
adapt from there. So again it's it's seeing what the
surface does and and and changing if you if you
(05:46):
need to, if not, you just stick to your guns
and hopefully the guys have done all the work. We've
had some good trainings here for last two days. We've
got one more today and it's just realized it's just
honing in those your processes that you want to go
through before a match, and trusting the work you've done.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You say a good training, Tell me what that means
when you walk away, what do you remember and go
Actually that worked? I mean the difference between good and
bad is there is he matching it? Luke?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Well, it depends for each person, because I mean some
guys they might hit for for fifteen minutes and be
happy as and then they trust others. They still trust
what they do, but they need they want to bat
for forty five minutes and then they have extras after that.
So it's each person is is their own individual. They
try to get what they can out of a training
session and again they obviously as part of what everyone
wants to face our spinners, they want to face the
(06:33):
net Bowl as we have that the local spinners that
they've got high quality spinners that come to trainings and
help us out as well. So there's this the little
things that I guess just it makes guys in their
minds feel a lot more comfortable and happy with the
work and the prep they've done leading into a Test match.
So again, each person is so different. So it's as
long as each person is happy with how they've prepped,
then I'm happy as Larry.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Haven't you got a restay because of a presidential election?
How does that work for you? Guys?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Well, it's yeah, well it's going to be something no
one's No one was around when that lasts, what happened,
that's for sure. So yeah, it's on day three. I
think we play Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, have Saturday off, can
play Sunday Monday. So yeah, it's it's something different. But
again it's I guess it's it's there's nothing you can
do about it. Just get into it and you understand
(07:18):
that that day it might be the perfect time for
the rest. We might have been in the field for
two days and we need to have a little bit
of a restock and a sit down and things. But
again we might be batting and going around our business.
So it's going to be interesting. I don't think, well,
no one actually knows what's going to happen or how
it's going to work. So we'll just see you hear.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It from the biggest names in sports and men. Have
your say on eight eighty Sports Talk or more on
your home of sports and news Talks.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It be got that.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
For more from sports talk, listen live to News Talks
it Be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildergrave
from News Talk ZB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
News Talk c B, Talking cricket now black Caps in Action.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well we hope. So anyway, first test of two up
against Sri Lanka over drink. We're joined by the assistant
coach Luke a Ronky Luke.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Welcome to the program. Let's cut to the chaste. Please
tell me the forecast is good.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Yes, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It is.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
It's a lot better obviously than what it was and
against the AFRIGHA and so it's it's I think everyone's
really excited for the fact of getting some some test
cricket under underway.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Look, I don't want to dwell on that Washedouse Test
because it was a disaster, But from a mental standpoint,
how was that for you and the players? Five days
of not really knowing, five days of out and out boredom,
five days of frustration. That's probably quite a difficult few
days to go through.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Yeah, it is because again, like everyone like you do
all the prep, you're already and mentally like right on
this day is when we're going to start sort of
a big test block for us, and the guys were excited,
but then you could sort of also tell early on
with the way the ground was looking in the weather
about it's like it was going to be quite a
difficult little period. And then it just kept raining like
it was. The unfortunate thing is would have some sunny days,
(01:19):
but it would rain overnight. And then obviously the last
few days there was actually no change because it rain
during the day anyway. But the guys were just like
they just I guess each each evening almost sort of
like mentally prep thinking that right tomorrow we could be on.
Let's just see what happens. And then obviously that would
all change. But the guys that they did really well
to sort of make sure that they were up and
(01:39):
ready to go if needs be. But you can see
like just the changing our like in our moods once
we got to Sri Lanka where you're outside a little
bit more and you're sort of the weather's different, you're
ready for it for something a different challenge, and then
the guys are sort of raring to go. The trainings
have been great, and again the guys are all excited
for tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
What's looking like as far as the deck, You're not
going to tell me. The team you never do. I'm
almost going to give up asking, but give us an
idea about what we've got out there in the middle.
Stop laughing at Luke that.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
It's good that you've worked it out.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Come on a twenty year.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I'll try all sorts of ways of do I'm going
to work. Tell us about the det what's it going
to do, Luke?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Traditionally here it is it's a spinning surface. The fast
bowlers don't that it have massive workloads at this place.
But again it gets hot and so the spinners have
a big role to play in the in the match
and making sure that the runs are hard to score
for any batters. And I guess it's it's it can
be just that atricious type of cricket where you know
you could be out there for a long time in
the heat and understanding your roles with the ball fast bowlers.
(02:40):
It's it's short, sharp, sort of impactful little spells, and
then the spinners get into a into a mode of
just hitting a spot and asking question of batters for
for a long long periods of time. So it can
be a little bit more old school sort of Test cricket.
But I love that sort of Test cricket. I think
that sort of it's where you see different skill sets
come out and and different tactical things happen. You're going
to work out over five days how to make the
(03:02):
most of their conditions and sort of get your side
in a pointing in the right direction to try and
get a result that you're after.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You've got plenty of tweakers in the team, some of
them have all round roles, so I suppose that determines
the selection of the spinners that don't bat so well.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Is it down to maybe.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Just one that might get the nod you're going to
maybe attack full noise with all of.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Your saying it with a few little slow just oh,
but we are in a position, like you said, we're
lucky enough with we do have some more round like
spin options as well. So we've got all these different
options up our sleeve, and that it is making sure
that the combinations and what we're after and it works,
I guess against the opposition that you're planning against as well.
(03:46):
So I mean, as you know, those are all the
questions and thoughts that go through Steady and Tim's mind
and the conversations with senior players and what they sort
of look in the wicket and also we're lucky enough
to have rung at a hairs with us at the
moment for these tests as well, so using his knowledge
of the surface and the ground and picking his brakes
obviously took a lot of tests. Wik its hairsts like right,
(04:06):
got enough understanding of what's about and we just sort
of pick accordingly. Really hopefully.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Luke Ronkey, what do you know about Sri Lanka and
their form?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Well, obviously they've just been in England. They had a
good Test win to finish off the series over there,
so they'll be coming in full of confidence and buzzing
after winning over there at the Eyeball sets. It's going
to be a fantastic series. It's again it's it's big
for both teams with World Test Championship points going and
it's exciting. We're in their conditions. They know this ground
(04:35):
well and it's I think that's the best part of
it as everyone's coming into this with full confidence and
excited for a challenge from both teams.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Play me, picking the turn is going to be the
difficult thing and more time spent on the deck the better.
But with the weather you've had, I'm presuming not a
great deal of time outside in those conditions, maybe an
insight have you preped this from a batting perspective.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
We've been quite lucky with the facilities at home. We
had three camps leading into to coming over this way,
and we're like the peeps looking after all. The wickets
were awesome in terms of making them turn and balance
and a bit slow, and different surfaces to prep the
guys as much as we could. So then it's like
just challenging guys in different ways and trying to come
(05:24):
up with different plans to just to combat what we
might face here. So then it's like you sort of
you go from extremes and training, so then you get
into a game and hopefully everyone's trusting the work they've
done and it's it's just like they go into a
zone and that they have their plan A and they
adapt from there. So again it's it's seeing what the
surface does and and and changing if you if you
(05:46):
need to, if not, you just stick to your guns
and hopefully the guys have done all the work. We've
had some good trainings here for last two days. We've
got one more today and it's just realized it's just
honing in those your processes that you want to go
through before a match, and trusting the work you've done.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You say a good training, Tell me what that means
when you walk away, what do you remember and go
Actually that worked? I mean the difference between good and
bad is there is he matching it? Luke?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Well, it depends for each person, because I mean some
guys they might hit for for fifteen minutes and be
happy as and then they trust others. They still trust
what they do, but they need they want to bat
for forty five minutes and then they have extras after that.
So it's each person is is their own individual. They
try to get what they can out of a training
session and again they obviously as part of what everyone
wants to face our spinners, they want to face the
(06:33):
net Bowl as we have that the local spinners that
they've got high quality spinners that come to trainings and
help us out as well. So there's this the little
things that I guess just it makes guys in their
minds feel a lot more comfortable and happy with the
work and the prep they've done leading into a Test match.
So again, each person is so different. So it's as
long as each person is happy with how they've prepped,
then I'm happy as Larry.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Haven't you got a restay because of a presidential election?
How does that work for you? Guys?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Well, it's yeah, well it's going to be something no
one's No one was around when that lasts, what happened,
that's for sure. So yeah, it's on day three. I
think we play Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, have Saturday off, can
play Sunday Monday. So yeah, it's it's something different. But
again it's I guess it's it's there's nothing you can
do about it. Just get into it and you understand
(07:18):
that that day it might be the perfect time for
the rest. We might have been in the field for
two days and we need to have a little bit
of a restock and a sit down and things. But
again we might be batting and going around our business.
So it's going to be interesting. I don't think, well,
no one actually knows what's going to happen or how
it's going to work. So we'll just see you hear.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It from the biggest names in sports and men. Have
your say on eight eighty Sports Talk or more on
your home of sports and news Talks.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It be got that.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
For more from sports talk, listen live to News Talks
it Be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio
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