May 22, 2025 • 14 mins
Cautious optimism from Indy 500 veteran Scott Dixon as he prepares to try and add a second Borg Warner trophy to his cabinet.
The 2008 champion's qualified fourth fastest for what will be his 23rd appearance in the race that's part of motorsport's annual Triple Crown - alongside the Monaco Grand Prix and 24 Hours of Le Mans.
Dixon joined D'Arcy Waldegrave to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildegrave
from news Talk z'd be.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Time to talk Indy Car and were joined by six
times IndyCar champion Scott Dixon. He's also one at the
Brickyard back in two thousand and eight. He's looking down
the barrel of his twenty third Indy five hundred. It's
a lot of race car miles and he joins us. Now, Scott,
(00:34):
welcome to the program. I suppose it'd be like sliding
back into an old pair of comfortable shoes.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It I wouldn't say that it's never comfortable, you know.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
I think that's you know, what keeps it so fresh,
as that it's forever changing, right, and the target's always different.
So this year definitely some you know, some you know changes,
I think where there will be a lot cooler than
what we've seen in the past. Tie degradation seems to
be up, you know, just because the weight of the
hybrid and you know, failures a little bit up as well.
I think that we've seen in the first few races
(01:04):
this year. So you know, it's never never the same,
and the competition.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Always changes as well.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
You know, we're a lot in a lot better place
this year, so looking forward to you know, having a
real good cracket at this this this Sunday.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So it looks like the number nine car rolled out
of the truck, as they say, in pretty good neck.
What can you tell us about the way the vehicle
has been handling with the changes we've had to make, Scott.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah, I think race stuff has been probably the more favorable.
You know, qualifying was definitely a nice surprise this year.
I think last year was kind of a good reset
for us. You know, none of us, with all five
cars made it to the Fast twelve. You know, that
was definitely pretty frustrating considering I think the last you know,
four or five years, one of us and the team
had kind of been fighting for the poll and had
(01:49):
captured the pole many of those times as well. So
you know, it was a good wake up call, you know, refocused,
especially kind of the advanced engineering group and you know,
everybody that's involved in that process. And you know, Alex
and I made it to the Fast Sex you know,
second row. You know we're starting forth, He's starting you know,
I think Keffin starting thirteenth probably, you know, we would
(02:10):
have loved to have been fighting for the pole, but definitely,
you know, on seventeen spots already better than it was
last year. So that's that's definitely a nice surprise. So yeah,
Carspied has been great. I think the long runs have
been really good. But you never really know, I think,
and once you know, until you get into the thick
of it in the race and see how your speed really.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Is huge amount of joy around the pits for Robert Schwartzman,
his family and his team as well. Of course he's
a rookie and he's got pole position.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
How good. Yeah, it was. It was cool.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You know, it's a it's a new team with Prema
obviously they've got a storied history, but you know, mostly
in Europe, and you know, Robert himself being a rookie
out of the gate, you know, is fantastic to see.
And you know a lot of actually Excanassi people there,
you know, Ryan Briscoe and X teammate of mine has
actually been helping Schwartzman quite a bit there as well.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
So really happy for that group.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
It was definitely a bit of a show, I think
on Saturday qualifying because when we all watched the run,
we're like, wow, that was really fast, you know, considering
that he wasn't even flat in any of the corners
and the car just had amazing speed, and that would
be true, you know once we got to the fast
twelve and then to the fast six. You know, I
don't think he did a single lap that was that
was flat and still had you know, crazy speed, whereas
(03:26):
you know, for us, I think we would have crumbled
a but have we been in that situation. So you know,
kudos to them, and it's really really really cool to
see and a great storyline, especially going into the race.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Okay, so where does that extra speed come from?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
It's yeah, even car, but we study a lot of
that stuff, you know, whether it's a lot of photos
and all that kind of stuff just to see car
build and you know things that they're maybe doing different
and yeah, nothing surprising. But the surprising part was that
car was definitely fast race running. You know, they've been
struggling a little bit more, but you know, if you've
got you know, good pace out of the car, that's
definitely half your battle. I think going into the five hundred.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
One of the usual suspects to come O Sato front
row of the grid, it's picked up and when there
are a couple of times what is it about Takuma,
Sato and ndy five hundred.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
He loves that place, yeah for sure, and you know,
you would say the rest of his teammates have been
struggling a little bit. You know, Sato, who he had
as a teammate, was it last year of the year before,
you know, as his motto goes, Noah technical chance and
that definitely, you know, you know plays.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Out at that place. For sure. He was the quickest Honda.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
You know, I think that was a bit of a
shock to us. You know, just even even in you know,
the fast Sex, they weren't very trimmed, so you know,
they weren't aggressive on on you know, trimming that car
out and going for straight line speed and you know
they were they were definitely fast. We were pretty close
to them, I think within a few tents a mile hour.
But you know, he did definitely did a fantastic job
(04:58):
and studying what is the middle of the front row,
So yeah, he'll be tough.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
To be watching qualifying. Scott is a fantastic perce where
a camera sits in the cockpit with you blows me
away how much work you have to do actually in
the cockpit there are so many buttons to push and
switches to switch, and the whole time you've got to
stop yourself driving into a wall at nearly four hundred
(05:22):
kilometers an hour. It's phenomenal to what it's crazy stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, it's definitely a it's definitely a fine art. You know,
It's it's tricky. You know, you've you've got the weightchecker,
you've got the you know, the wayjacker, that kind of
you know compacts now on the streets too, that you
have to trigger and then make sure you don't forget
about it because you know you're you're more than likely
go straight ahead, which we've seen some cars crash earlier
in the month because of that.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You know. The addition of the hybrid is you know.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Put up the workload of regionning and deploying in certain
spots and you know, whether you trickle or or you know,
do it every lap. And then you've got you know
your typical stuff of just you know, moving car balance
and roll bars and all that kind of you know,
you know, just trying to get it right for each
corner to you know, the problem at India it kind
of looks like therefore just corners that look the same,
but they're very different. And then when you get the
(06:12):
complexities which we had, especially on Saturday with the wind,
you know, guts of thirty five or forty five miles
an hour, especially in turn two, that's gone up your backside.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You know, it.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Definitely changes or grabs your attention, I should say, so, Yeah,
it's it's it may look easy from TV, doesn't know
justice and you know this year fact that you're doing
over you know, almost four hundred kilometers per hour as well.
You know the downside of that is the crash, and
the crash is a pretty big man.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, Scott, you really don't want to focus on that.
And on the subject of Rex, couple of kiwis didn't
have the best of times Turns one, turns two, both
McLoughlin and Armstrong with some big skids and of course
the best thing about that is they walked away eight Okay,
the cars didn't a lot of work to do between
(06:59):
the smash time and when they start again. That's huge
energy and effort from the team.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yeah, definitely not what you want to see for any competitor.
Obviously with with Marcus, you know, he's under kind of
the Ganassi Engineering umbrella. You know, he's at my shank,
but we have a partnership with them, you know. And
then McLaughlin's one was was kind of ill timed, you know.
I think being the morning of qualifying, you know, definitely
makes it quite frustrating for you know, for that next
(07:29):
day of the Fast twelve. And you know, the real
big downside is that, you know, the kind of the
fit and you know, preparation for these cars that we
really only run at the five hundred, you know, it
is kind of months in the build, you know, so
if you jump to a backup car, and we saw that,
you know from both those guys where you know, Marcus,
(07:50):
you know, really struggled to qualify I think the next
few days just because the cars aren't.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Prepped the same and mclachland.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
You know, I'm sure Penske have got some some great
backups in their scenario, but still it's not the car
that you know, you really want to race. So they've
got a week to kind of work on it at least,
you know, four or five.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Days to kind of get it prepped as much.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
But it's never the same, so you know, they'll be
fast and you know, hoping for big things for fellow
kiwis and hopefully we can all flow the flag.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So it's got your reference how different the car is
when it comes to the brickyard. So can you identify
or point out a couple of the tweaks or adjustments
that have to be made to get the best automobile
for this race.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, it's not big tweaks. You know, you're never really
looking for four or five big things. It's it's hundreds
of small details. You know, body fit is a big one,
you know, to the materials that you use to even
you know, maybe the covering on the car. You know,
the paint or you know those surfaces so you know,
you know the skids under the car, the underwing, how
that's prepped. You know that there's just so many fine
(08:53):
details that you find, kind of little things and you know,
making it just a much better looking car, even to
the naked eye. When you see that car in real
life compared to say a road course car or one
that you may use at short track ovals, you know,
they do look a little bit different.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
They just you know, they look pristine.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
So yeah, gone are the days of you know the
you know, the four or five big things where it's
just hundred hundreds of small details.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Now it's been a long time in the seat Scott,
a couple of decades. Now. Things changed in those last
twenty odd years.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
You know, I think the times have changed, especially since
you know, kind of the mid two thousands. You know,
I think at the early two thousands.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
You still had a new car each year.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
You know, the endplates were open to, the floors were
open to, you know, wheel flips, all those kinds of things.
You could actually you know, as a team really go
to the wind tunnel manufacture those things, and you had
windows that you kind of work in, whereas now they're
all supplied by you know, one manufacturer, which is Delara,
and they.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
All have to be those parts.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
You know, how you fit those or you know that
can be you know a lot of details just going
into into that kind of stuff. So that's where it's
become much smaller things. Whereas you know, an endplate might
have saved you, you know, three or four pounds of
drag back in the day, you know you'd have to
do I don't even know twenty things now to try
(10:17):
and even find the amount of you know, you know,
less drags. So yeah, it's just because everybody has the
same thing. You're just trying to, you know, make it
a little bit better than any other team.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
As you're talking about before, with the amount of work
you've got to do in the cockpit, with the various settings,
functions and the like, how accurate, how precise do you
have to be in making those decisions to make sure
you get the best out of the car. Like is
there much wiggle room in race or in qualifying?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah, kind of all it kind of adds up. The
race can be flipped on its head pretty pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I think when you kind of get the lap one
sixty to ones, well yeah, kind of like lap one's sixty.
If you get a caution around there, then it typically
splits the field. You know, you might have one that's
going to go into fuel safe mode and then you know,
the rest of the field kind of pets and tries
to go, you know, or one pits, then the others
stay out and they try to go flat out do
(11:13):
a pit stop towards the end because you can only
really run. You know, maybe I don't even know this year,
to be honest, maybe about thirty four laps on the
tank of fuel.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
You know, if you're going.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Flat out, it's maybe twenty nine to thirty, you know,
so it's it's really that one sixty to sixty five
where if there's a caution, it can really split the
field and then that changes, you know, the whole race outcome.
The addition this year of you know, the hybrid, that
could really change you know, the outcome of the race.
You know with the last lap or two, you know,
just depending on you know, if you're the leader, you
go for the lead and you know.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
You use all your energy.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
You know, you might be a bit of a sitting
duck if you did it kind of going into turn one.
You know, the cars behind have got a bit of
time to reg in and really have a good crack
at you kind of coming you know into three or
off of you know, turn four, going to the to
the finish line. So you know, there'll be a lot
of things that you kind of have to cover this year,
and or it could be a you know, a long
green flag sit where you know you've been going green
(12:08):
for fifty laps and the field's a little more spread out,
so you just got to be on your toes man,
that's the biggest thing and ready for change.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
One last thing, Scott Dixon Then, as always, thanks very
much for sharing some time with us and the listeners.
Let's talk about the controversy of the week, the attenuated
situation with Team Penske. It's only a tiny adjustment, but
it's still illegal and they've been absolutely slacked for that.
(12:34):
Were you surprised to see this?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, it's not. You know, I think the.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
You know, the hard part is the legitimacy of the sport,
right you know, it's it's already magnified because you know,
Roger Penske owns the Indy five hundred of the circuit.
You know, he owns a team that races competitively in
the IndyCar Series, which he already owns and owns the
engine supplayer that makes the engines for you know, GM.
(13:03):
So it's a tricky situation for them anyway, and they
have to be squeaky clean, and you know, unfortunately it
didn't play out that way. And you know, I think
off the back side of what happened last year with
you know, their overtake penalties and you know, doing something
kind of blatantly illegal there as well, so it's not
(13:23):
a good look, you know, and it's frustrating for the
sport just in general, and frustrating for team owners and
everybody that's involved, you know, and you know, you can
see some of the reaction that's come from it, you know,
with some of the penalties that they've been handed and
you know, plus I think today where they fired you know,
three of you know, Penske employees. So yeah, it's just
it kind of unfortunately, you're probably talking more about that
(13:46):
than you know, a rookie Schwartzman getting the poll for
the biggest race in the world. So you know, hopefully
they can they can clean it up, and you know,
unfortunately they're just going to be under the magnified big
time now and then.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
On that we'll wind it up, We'll let it go.
Scott Dixon out a Chipkin Nassi Racing running the number
nine p NC bank US six times a champion, he's
picked up Indie back in two thousand and eight, and Scott,
we're wishing you all the very best for Monday, New Zealand.
Time get in there and drive it like you pinched it.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Thanks very much, appreciate it and hopefully Q will be
Drinking that Milk.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Time to talk Indy Car and were joined by six
times IndyCar champion Scott Dixon. He's also one at the
Brickyard back in two thousand and eight. He's looking down
the barrel of his twenty third Indy five hundred. It's
a lot of race car miles and he joins us. Now, Scott,
(00:34):
welcome to the program. I suppose it'd be like sliding
back into an old pair of comfortable shoes.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It I wouldn't say that it's never comfortable, you know.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
I think that's you know, what keeps it so fresh,
as that it's forever changing, right, and the target's always different.
So this year definitely some you know, some you know changes,
I think where there will be a lot cooler than
what we've seen in the past. Tie degradation seems to
be up, you know, just because the weight of the
hybrid and you know, failures a little bit up as well.
I think that we've seen in the first few races
(01:04):
this year. So you know, it's never never the same,
and the competition.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Always changes as well.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
You know, we're a lot in a lot better place
this year, so looking forward to you know, having a
real good cracket at this this this Sunday.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So it looks like the number nine car rolled out
of the truck, as they say, in pretty good neck.
What can you tell us about the way the vehicle
has been handling with the changes we've had to make, Scott.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah, I think race stuff has been probably the more favorable.
You know, qualifying was definitely a nice surprise this year.
I think last year was kind of a good reset
for us. You know, none of us, with all five
cars made it to the Fast twelve. You know, that
was definitely pretty frustrating considering I think the last you know,
four or five years, one of us and the team
had kind of been fighting for the poll and had
(01:49):
captured the pole many of those times as well. So
you know, it was a good wake up call, you know, refocused,
especially kind of the advanced engineering group and you know,
everybody that's involved in that process. And you know, Alex
and I made it to the Fast Sex you know,
second row. You know we're starting forth, He's starting you know,
I think Keffin starting thirteenth probably, you know, we would
(02:10):
have loved to have been fighting for the pole, but definitely,
you know, on seventeen spots already better than it was
last year. So that's that's definitely a nice surprise. So yeah,
Carspied has been great. I think the long runs have
been really good. But you never really know, I think,
and once you know, until you get into the thick
of it in the race and see how your speed really.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Is huge amount of joy around the pits for Robert Schwartzman,
his family and his team as well. Of course he's
a rookie and he's got pole position.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
How good. Yeah, it was. It was cool.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You know, it's a it's a new team with Prema
obviously they've got a storied history, but you know, mostly
in Europe, and you know, Robert himself being a rookie
out of the gate, you know, is fantastic to see.
And you know a lot of actually Excanassi people there,
you know, Ryan Briscoe and X teammate of mine has
actually been helping Schwartzman quite a bit there as well.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
So really happy for that group.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
It was definitely a bit of a show, I think
on Saturday qualifying because when we all watched the run,
we're like, wow, that was really fast, you know, considering
that he wasn't even flat in any of the corners
and the car just had amazing speed, and that would
be true, you know once we got to the fast
twelve and then to the fast six. You know, I
don't think he did a single lap that was that
was flat and still had you know, crazy speed, whereas
(03:26):
you know, for us, I think we would have crumbled
a but have we been in that situation. So you know,
kudos to them, and it's really really really cool to
see and a great storyline, especially going into the race.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Okay, so where does that extra speed come from?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
It's yeah, even car, but we study a lot of
that stuff, you know, whether it's a lot of photos
and all that kind of stuff just to see car
build and you know things that they're maybe doing different
and yeah, nothing surprising. But the surprising part was that
car was definitely fast race running. You know, they've been
struggling a little bit more, but you know, if you've
got you know, good pace out of the car, that's
definitely half your battle. I think going into the five hundred.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
One of the usual suspects to come O Sato front
row of the grid, it's picked up and when there
are a couple of times what is it about Takuma,
Sato and ndy five hundred.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
He loves that place, yeah for sure, and you know,
you would say the rest of his teammates have been
struggling a little bit. You know, Sato, who he had
as a teammate, was it last year of the year before,
you know, as his motto goes, Noah technical chance and
that definitely, you know, you know plays.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Out at that place. For sure. He was the quickest Honda.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
You know, I think that was a bit of a
shock to us. You know, just even even in you know,
the fast Sex, they weren't very trimmed, so you know,
they weren't aggressive on on you know, trimming that car
out and going for straight line speed and you know
they were they were definitely fast. We were pretty close
to them, I think within a few tents a mile hour.
But you know, he did definitely did a fantastic job
(04:58):
and studying what is the middle of the front row,
So yeah, he'll be tough.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
To be watching qualifying. Scott is a fantastic perce where
a camera sits in the cockpit with you blows me
away how much work you have to do actually in
the cockpit there are so many buttons to push and
switches to switch, and the whole time you've got to
stop yourself driving into a wall at nearly four hundred
(05:22):
kilometers an hour. It's phenomenal to what it's crazy stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, it's definitely a it's definitely a fine art. You know,
It's it's tricky. You know, you've you've got the weightchecker,
you've got the you know, the wayjacker, that kind of
you know compacts now on the streets too, that you
have to trigger and then make sure you don't forget
about it because you know you're you're more than likely
go straight ahead, which we've seen some cars crash earlier
in the month because of that.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You know. The addition of the hybrid is you know.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Put up the workload of regionning and deploying in certain
spots and you know, whether you trickle or or you know,
do it every lap. And then you've got you know
your typical stuff of just you know, moving car balance
and roll bars and all that kind of you know,
you know, just trying to get it right for each
corner to you know, the problem at India it kind
of looks like therefore just corners that look the same,
but they're very different. And then when you get the
(06:12):
complexities which we had, especially on Saturday with the wind,
you know, guts of thirty five or forty five miles
an hour, especially in turn two, that's gone up your backside.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You know, it.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Definitely changes or grabs your attention, I should say, so, Yeah,
it's it's it may look easy from TV, doesn't know
justice and you know this year fact that you're doing
over you know, almost four hundred kilometers per hour as well.
You know the downside of that is the crash, and
the crash is a pretty big man.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, Scott, you really don't want to focus on that.
And on the subject of Rex, couple of kiwis didn't
have the best of times Turns one, turns two, both
McLoughlin and Armstrong with some big skids and of course
the best thing about that is they walked away eight Okay,
the cars didn't a lot of work to do between
(06:59):
the smash time and when they start again. That's huge
energy and effort from the team.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yeah, definitely not what you want to see for any competitor.
Obviously with with Marcus, you know, he's under kind of
the Ganassi Engineering umbrella. You know, he's at my shank,
but we have a partnership with them, you know. And
then McLaughlin's one was was kind of ill timed, you know.
I think being the morning of qualifying, you know, definitely
makes it quite frustrating for you know, for that next
(07:29):
day of the Fast twelve. And you know, the real
big downside is that, you know, the kind of the
fit and you know, preparation for these cars that we
really only run at the five hundred, you know, it
is kind of months in the build, you know, so
if you jump to a backup car, and we saw that,
you know from both those guys where you know, Marcus,
(07:50):
you know, really struggled to qualify I think the next
few days just because the cars aren't.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Prepped the same and mclachland.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
You know, I'm sure Penske have got some some great
backups in their scenario, but still it's not the car
that you know, you really want to race. So they've
got a week to kind of work on it at least,
you know, four or five.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Days to kind of get it prepped as much.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
But it's never the same, so you know, they'll be
fast and you know, hoping for big things for fellow
kiwis and hopefully we can all flow the flag.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So it's got your reference how different the car is
when it comes to the brickyard. So can you identify
or point out a couple of the tweaks or adjustments
that have to be made to get the best automobile
for this race.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, it's not big tweaks. You know, you're never really
looking for four or five big things. It's it's hundreds
of small details. You know, body fit is a big one,
you know, to the materials that you use to even
you know, maybe the covering on the car. You know,
the paint or you know those surfaces so you know,
you know the skids under the car, the underwing, how
that's prepped. You know that there's just so many fine
(08:53):
details that you find, kind of little things and you know,
making it just a much better looking car, even to
the naked eye. When you see that car in real
life compared to say a road course car or one
that you may use at short track ovals, you know,
they do look a little bit different.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
They just you know, they look pristine.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
So yeah, gone are the days of you know the
you know, the four or five big things where it's
just hundred hundreds of small details.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Now it's been a long time in the seat Scott,
a couple of decades. Now. Things changed in those last
twenty odd years.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
You know, I think the times have changed, especially since
you know, kind of the mid two thousands. You know,
I think at the early two thousands.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
You still had a new car each year.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
You know, the endplates were open to, the floors were
open to, you know, wheel flips, all those kinds of things.
You could actually you know, as a team really go
to the wind tunnel manufacture those things, and you had
windows that you kind of work in, whereas now they're
all supplied by you know, one manufacturer, which is Delara,
and they.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
All have to be those parts.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
You know, how you fit those or you know that
can be you know a lot of details just going
into into that kind of stuff. So that's where it's
become much smaller things. Whereas you know, an endplate might
have saved you, you know, three or four pounds of
drag back in the day, you know you'd have to
do I don't even know twenty things now to try
(10:17):
and even find the amount of you know, you know,
less drags. So yeah, it's just because everybody has the
same thing. You're just trying to, you know, make it
a little bit better than any other team.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
As you're talking about before, with the amount of work
you've got to do in the cockpit, with the various settings,
functions and the like, how accurate, how precise do you
have to be in making those decisions to make sure
you get the best out of the car. Like is
there much wiggle room in race or in qualifying?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah, kind of all it kind of adds up. The
race can be flipped on its head pretty pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I think when you kind of get the lap one
sixty to ones, well yeah, kind of like lap one's sixty.
If you get a caution around there, then it typically
splits the field. You know, you might have one that's
going to go into fuel safe mode and then you know,
the rest of the field kind of pets and tries
to go, you know, or one pits, then the others
stay out and they try to go flat out do
(11:13):
a pit stop towards the end because you can only
really run. You know, maybe I don't even know this year,
to be honest, maybe about thirty four laps on the
tank of fuel.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
You know, if you're going.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Flat out, it's maybe twenty nine to thirty, you know,
so it's it's really that one sixty to sixty five
where if there's a caution, it can really split the
field and then that changes, you know, the whole race outcome.
The addition this year of you know, the hybrid, that
could really change you know, the outcome of the race.
You know with the last lap or two, you know,
just depending on you know, if you're the leader, you
go for the lead and you know.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
You use all your energy.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
You know, you might be a bit of a sitting
duck if you did it kind of going into turn one.
You know, the cars behind have got a bit of
time to reg in and really have a good crack
at you kind of coming you know into three or
off of you know, turn four, going to the to
the finish line. So you know, there'll be a lot
of things that you kind of have to cover this year,
and or it could be a you know, a long
green flag sit where you know you've been going green
(12:08):
for fifty laps and the field's a little more spread out,
so you just got to be on your toes man,
that's the biggest thing and ready for change.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
One last thing, Scott Dixon Then, as always, thanks very
much for sharing some time with us and the listeners.
Let's talk about the controversy of the week, the attenuated
situation with Team Penske. It's only a tiny adjustment, but
it's still illegal and they've been absolutely slacked for that.
(12:34):
Were you surprised to see this?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, it's not. You know, I think the.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
You know, the hard part is the legitimacy of the sport,
right you know, it's it's already magnified because you know,
Roger Penske owns the Indy five hundred of the circuit.
You know, he owns a team that races competitively in
the IndyCar Series, which he already owns and owns the
engine supplayer that makes the engines for you know, GM.
(13:03):
So it's a tricky situation for them anyway, and they
have to be squeaky clean, and you know, unfortunately it
didn't play out that way. And you know, I think
off the back side of what happened last year with
you know, their overtake penalties and you know, doing something
kind of blatantly illegal there as well, so it's not
(13:23):
a good look, you know, and it's frustrating for the
sport just in general, and frustrating for team owners and
everybody that's involved, you know, and you know, you can
see some of the reaction that's come from it, you know,
with some of the penalties that they've been handed and
you know, plus I think today where they fired you know,
three of you know, Penske employees. So yeah, it's just
it kind of unfortunately, you're probably talking more about that
(13:46):
than you know, a rookie Schwartzman getting the poll for
the biggest race in the world. So you know, hopefully
they can they can clean it up, and you know,
unfortunately they're just going to be under the magnified big
time now and then.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
On that we'll wind it up, We'll let it go.
Scott Dixon out a Chipkin Nassi Racing running the number
nine p NC bank US six times a champion, he's
picked up Indie back in two thousand and eight, and Scott,
we're wishing you all the very best for Monday, New Zealand.
Time get in there and drive it like you pinched it.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Thanks very much, appreciate it and hopefully Q will be
Drinking that Milk.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
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