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July 18, 2024 • 35 mins

Matt Heath joins Manaia Stewart to discuss recovering from Gary Stead, AFL poos and Hemorrhoids (15:14).

Then the fellas rip into some searing analysis of the upcoming All Blacks game in San Diego (17:08).

Finally, they dissect a fan theory about 'Top Gun Maverick' that may explain the last four years of our lives (32:16).

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Life in the Export Beer Garden Studio and brought to
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is the Agenda Podcast for Friday, the nineteenth of July.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
The Agenda Podcast, the home of Sporting Nonsense and clap Trap,
brought to you by Next Sport a Vulture.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Morning mat Heth, how's your week been? About thirty odd
podcasts for you this?

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeh?

Speaker 4 (00:21):
Actually I did one. I was still recording the podcast
at midnight last night. I did the Mandate podcast. Oh yes,
did you go out there? I went out there, great
great people.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Boy the studio because I went out into their podcast
the other week. He was doing a studios just like
in a garage. But yes it's in the garage, but
set up well. It looks great on the on the YouTube.
They had a great two hour chat. But you know,
they have your a breakfast host.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
You start, you know, five am, and then you're still
doing a podcast at ten am. I don't know if
I don't know if I delivered the best material air
in my life.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
But it was a good time. And you would you
say that the quality of their studio is better than ours?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Because I was saying that I still was saying you
should see the a SEC studio. Yeah, they've got they've
got a round situation like round couches. It's actually actually
I was gonna have a word to acc head g
Lane about a round couch situation. It's actually perfect with
the table in the middle so you're facing each other. Yeah, yeah,
rather than what we're sitting on here is like a
couple of the shittest couches ever to be thrown out

(01:17):
into the street from the front of a student flat
when someone moves south because they no point in taking
it anywhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
And then a publicly listed company comes along picks them up.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah, and then I've got and I'm having to hold
my headphone it's connection so I can hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Come on, No lumbar support on these couches.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Absolutely, Also it forces you into a position that makes
you look like a like a fifteen chin piece of shit.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Not you me know, I no, no, me too. Though. Also,
every time a video comes out from these podcasts, my
missus will just send it to men like you've got
to sort your posture up.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Something has to change. The came I saw a picture
of me and Laura mcgulta. She took a picture of
me and me and her put it on social media
at the rugby last week. Oh yeah, yeah, and I'm
going to put that on my mirror because because it's
got to be my before.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
She took the before photo that she took a great before.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
I mean, she looks amazing obviously, so you know you're
standing beside Yeah, something pretty good. Not to objectify her,
but she's a beautiful, strong, powerful woman.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
We don't do that.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
We don't do that at the a sec beautiful woman,
but just a sack of shit that needs to do
something about himself.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
I know, and I know the one sweeping change that
I could make to my lifestyle that would have the
biggest impact that I'm not willing to make it, and
that's alcohol. Stop having fifteen beers on a Friday night before.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Every plan I put together, and a plan together with
my girlfriend, I'm like, wow, let's be realistic.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Yeah, I am going to keep drinking heavily.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
So the other thing I'll do is I'll be like, oh, yeah,
I'm going to do fucking keto or like you know,
I'm going to cut out carbs or high fat, high protein,
blah blah blah blah blah you'll do almost everything except
for just be like, hey, why don't you just take
a month off.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
I had an absolute keto blowout where I was ordering
these packaged meals because I was like zero, you know,
chackaged meals, but I just I didn't realize that the
site had all different kinds of things, and I was like, wow,
you can eat that, where you can eat that, where
you can eat it. And I went on those for
a month and I was just putting on so much weight.
And then I looked back and go, oh, I've been
ordering just the meals. Yeah, And I was like the

(03:25):
reason why I was wowed that they were healthy was
because they weren't. I was just pounding TV dinners and
thinking it was going to make me better.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
This seems like I'm dropping a three thousand calorie bomb
on myself, but it's off the healthy website, so I
can't be. I had a flatmate like that. Everyone was getting,
you know, pretty heavily into the gym, and let's be honest,
the steroids as well. But they were also on the
protein powder and so he got swept up in that
as well. He was hitting the protein powder milkshakes pretty hard.
It'll Cartman, you up pretty nicely. Yeah, it wasn't working

(03:54):
out at all, and so yeah, it just really really
blew out.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
It really works out for my seven ten year old son,
just pounding protein powder and he just seems to get
jacked really quickly.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
But their just gets fat. Yeah that's right. Well, because
he's out there, you know, moving around. I ever think
about how much a seventeen year old moves constantly and
a day to day, whereas I am almost entirely like stationary.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, that's a very good point.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
If it can be avoided, I will be standing like sitting.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Especially with me, yelling for my kids to go downstairs
or upstairs to get stuff for me.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, you know, can you get that for me? That's right?
Can you do that? I'm at the age where if
I walk up stairs and I forget something and I
asked my missus to bring it up the stairs for
me and she doesn't, that's a heated argument because I
will not be going down the stairs again to come
back up.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
And you were like me, You live in a townhouse situation,
so there's a lot of steerage.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
There's a lot of stairs. Yeah, yeah, I know, And
I swear they add an extra step. The other day,
speaking of getting old, I old maned it down the stairs.
I slipped out, the missed the stairs, and I went
flying and I landed on my back and slid the
whole way down the staircase. And the mark from my
shoes on the wall was about where my head was. Man,
that's when you want CCTV footage. Yeah, because it looks

(05:08):
like you've done a full cartoon fall. Yeah, with her
feet go right up. It was a rude awakening and
I was like.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
It's a Jpeshi and home alone kind of situation.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
But I was looking back at the stairs. My missus
comes to the top of the staircase. She's like, what
the fuck has happened? Turns the thing on black Schoemer
eye level halfway down the staircase. Look, one day you're
going to come and I'll be unresponsive at bottom of
the staircase. Here, it's about how it's going to go.
I was looking for a Friday we should check in

(05:37):
on how our week went with a little bit of
a thing I like to do in my personal life. Yeah,
pits and peaks. What were the pits and peaks of
your week? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:45):
I'll go first the pit was and it always is.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Thursday morning after Origin, you wake up and have to
come back into work again. You're like, oh my god,
I felt like I'd been shot Thursday morning because Origin
never finishes till about now. It's insane midnight twelve thirty. Yeah.
And then on top of that, you're also like, you know,
probably having won too many beers for a Wednesday night. Yeah,
You've then also got two full days to get through.

(06:10):
It's a it's a real week ruin. And I've gotta
be honest with you. I actually was intending to sleep
through it and watch it in the morning. And then
chris Keytspy is like, oh, should I come around to
yours to watch the Origin?

Speaker 4 (06:20):
I was like, you would have missed if you hadn't
watched that live, you would have missed live.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Cam Murray being sent off for the beach one of
the great things. I've got a take on that though.
That's there was a home invasion. He was on the beach.
The fight came into his house, you know, a bunch
of big dudes piling through the front door. He's just
sitting there and his slipper slippers with us, with us
dressing down and his pipe. Yeah, on the bench, they piling.
What's he supposed to do?

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, does the stand your ground rule bluffs of bench players?
Just like he was in an open carry state home
only Olokuatu was on the bench in a suit. He
wasn't even playing. I think he was eating a peer
when the fight come crashing over the sideline. What's he
supposed to do? Because he only saw you know, there
was only like one or two blue jerseys there. He's like, fun,
I'm gonna have to get busy here. So downs your

(07:03):
ground rules should have should have applied there? Yeah, because
I think in the States you would have been within
your rights to shoot them all in the head. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
But if you end up in the dugout and the
wrong wrong team's dug out in a basketball game in Texas,
I mean in a baseball game in Texas, you're gonna
get shot. You can be shot legally, and no one,
no one, no one asked a question, won't even go
to court.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
You're right, he was within his rights to pull a
baseball bet out and just start clubbing duds. But yeah,
so that was your that was your my pet, but
my peak. Yeah, And I don't know if you saw
the video came out quite late last night. I went
to the New Zealand cricket launch Oh yeah yet, and
I met Gary Stead and we had you know, media availability,
which is always hilarious because we the a SEC get

(07:44):
put in with the actual journalists. Yeah right, and you're
standing there, you feel like you're sticking out like dogs balls.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Like, and they're like, they don't think you deserve to
be dead?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
No, yeah, absolutely, And so a hard hitting ernest journalist
was about was asking Gary Stid some questions and the
media guy goes, hey, after you talk to him, to
Tom and I are over here, and I was like,
I genuinely just want to ask you about my wrong
and how to fix it. And he was just like,
oh really, I've got some drills and he like it.
Immediately switched on that coach brain. You were one hundred
percent wrong in I think I bowl a stock wrong in. Yeah.

(08:14):
I've always only bowled stock wrong and I've only ever
had one person peck it. Oh, two people picked it.
One was either James or Hamish Marshal, I don't know which.
But when we played in the Dulux trailers a week week,
yeah that's right. Yeah, because I bowled my first ball
to him and he clubbed it for six, and then
he goes, was that a wrongin? I was like yeah.
And then the other one was we were bowling in

(08:35):
Jerry's backyard at the start of the year. Yeah, and
Kan Williamson was watching from the deck and he goes.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Was that a wrong Well in that last a c
C game we had, we had that great technique where
you had bowled four wrongins and we're like, we were
going to the batsman he no, one bowls four wrongins.
When's there when he can't keep bowling the wrong and
when's he going to change it up?

Speaker 3 (08:52):
And it totally worked.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, because I literally can't.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
It's like six wrongins, so way you never would have
picked it. Each one was less likely than the last.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
It's like tossing a corn and it coming up here
six times in a row. Every time. You're like, no,
I've got I've got to go to us. But anyway, yes,
So I told Gary std that and so he was like, oh, yeah,
I can give you some tips and bar ba ba
and he's like, what do you want to ask me?
I was like, ye know that that's all long is
really Yeah. So then we did the interview, all of
a sudden we're kneeling on the floor and men Gary
Steered are bowling wrongins back and forth at each other,

(09:24):
and he gave me a drill to do to try
and fix. You know, it's a risk position, right, But
really changed how I thought of Gary Stead. I don't
know why not that I thought negatively of him.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Yeah, but you know he's got skills as a coach.
I guess you'd assume that as the national coach of
a of a cricket team.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
But it would have been so easy for him to
be like, what, I'm not going to give you fucking
bowling tips.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
I'm sure you've got into it. But that schedule looks
which looks good, doesn't it? It does got a lot
of England there. It's another weird donut schedule, right, I
just looked at the names.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, so three tests England series, which is going to
be awesome, phenomenal, And I love it that it's at
the December, like before New Year's Yeah. Yeah, so it's
like the tail end of work. You're still kind of
clocking off, but everyone's still around.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, so you don't.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Really miss it. So three games as well, that's the
other exciting part. So there will be a decider and
even then, like, I don't think you have a dead
rubber in cricket if there's a three test series. Even
if we win the first two, the third is still
not a dead rubber. But yeah, so I'm pretty excited
about that. Then we fuck off to Pakistan for like
a month that we're.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Still paying for pissing them off with going home after
a slightly threatening email, aren't we. I feel like we're
still paying our dues to them.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Well, so there was there was a slightly threatening email
where we pulled pin. Then there was during COVID they
stayed at the Shutter on the Park in christ and
they flouted the rules. Yeah that's right, and so we
reprimanded them for it. And then Shower Bakta came out
of the clouds and threaten nuclear war against that.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah that's right, And we've stayed at the Shutter on
the Park.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
It's beautiful. It is true.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
I would like to be out of all the hotels
in New Zealand. There's spacious water features. Yeah, you're going
to be locked down for COVID. That's not a bad
hotel to be in.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
But you know, we were staying there and we weren't
in lockdown and we didn't leave our rooms.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
No, that's true.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
You don't have to because it's such an amazing complex down.
They're not an AD but kind of an AD. But yeah, no, no.
So the February thing is the Champions Trophy, which we
haven't done since like twenty fourteen. I don't really remember it,
but it's an ode competition. Then there's like a three
try series with South Africa and Pakistan. Then weirdly we

(11:26):
all get on the same flight and come back to
New Zealand. It's all very confusing, but yes, it is
exciting that we have the summer of cricket coming up
Pakistan as well, and I've forgotten who the third team is.
It's coming over here. What were your pits and peaks
of the week?

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Heath Well, the pet was the return of my hemorrhoids
after you know, I doubt with them. There was actually agenda.
There was an Agenda podcast where me and Glane took
supposits one twin suppositories in Doneda Yeah, yeah, in Donedan
and then and that was at the end they were gone.
Yeah I thought we were they were out that that
was the final of the treatment. They were all completely gone.

(12:03):
And then I went to Arrowtown for a week and
just punished red wine around a bunch of vineyards and.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
They just popped back out.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
So so the pet is the return of the hemorrhoids.
When they were out there, I was out and now
I'm back dragged back in. But the peak was Ian
Jones at the at the Rugby last week on Saturday.
He came up to me and a circle is talking
and he goes he points at me, and I'm like,
Ian Jones is talking to me. This is fucking great.
And he goes, did you think we were going to lose?
And I said, I did it should a couple of

(12:31):
points I thought. I actually got quite worried. And he goes,
that's why you were never an all black. And there
was quite a crowd talking. What there's quite quite a
crowd talking? He laughs, And then I just said, there's
a lot of reasons why I wasn't an all black.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
I mean, look at me. Brought the house down with laughter.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
It was a great Oscar wildie back and forth, room laugh,
a room laugh.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
It was a room laugh.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Always leaving a room laf so often when I talked to,
you know.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Heroes of my youth, I clam up and I become
shrinking violet. So so just to have her back and
forth with Ian Jones was was a real It was
a real peak kid.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
So he was you weren't talking to him? He just
came over to tell you why you weren't, and all black.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's right, I was talking to I was
talking to Jeremy Wells actually.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah right, I just came over, Yeah, came. It's quite
a gentle natured dude. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah, it was all very It was all very gentle
and funny and well meaning. But you know, I mean,
I'm not saying it was the greatest comeback of all time.
It's almost like if you just say something confidently back
and forth, there's the rooms ready to laugh, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, yeah, there's a bit of tention there. Yeah that
was your peak. Yeah that was my peak. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
The peak was that pits the roids? It pits the roids.
What's what's the next steps? Have you have you on
the surgery route? Do they have to cut those things off?

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I don't know. I don't know how you deal with it.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Got I've got a doctor friend that I pepper pictures with,
like my mate Sean, Gail and Ralph. I just send
a picture and he and he sends me and he's like,
have you.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Seen Sean peaks of your hemorhoids?

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yeah, yeah, I do, and he says they're all pretty
much the same. I don't need the pictures, you know.
It's I'm aware of the the you know, the phenomena.
Yours are particularly unicorn. It's only one as well. It's
just it's just one. I've deployed so many resources are
basically keeping the chemist Warehouse in business with the amount

(14:22):
of resources I'm deploying on the on it. But anyway,
like I'll keep you updated, Yeah, no, please do. It
was an unwelcome return.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
You know. Yeah. I know people who have been to
you know, have them treated and and we're taken for
like a local anesthetic sort of scalpel situation.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah. They referred to that doctor as the Butcher of
Barrington down there in Christs because I don't think they
administered the requisite amount of local anesthetics.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
I'm going to need a general for that. Put me out, yeah,
put me out.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Because at some point I'm going to make eye contact
with the block, you know, and that's gone. It's great
work if you can get it moving inroids.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
You go to mid school for eight years and then
with scalpel up some stinky dudes.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Ass. Yeah, your mum's so proud of you because you're
a doctor. And what do you do all right? You're
mainly up dudes asses. Yeah, anything wrong with it? No,
And while we're staying, while we are already downstairs in
the AFL, but AFL news underrepresented on the Gender podcast.
An AFL team charted a flight between two cities over
there in Australia after the game. It was a four

(15:27):
hour flight and about halfway through the flight, the whole
airplane ran out of water, right, so the toilet couldn't flush. Oh,
it was stuck and the ear the cabin crew had
to shovel human feces out of the toilet so that
people could keep using it. Wow, it's kicked up a
massive stone over there. Excuse the punt because obviously the

(15:49):
AFL team look high protein diets.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, oh god, are terrible. They're also all about.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Seven feet tools ran into their cubicle. Yeah, it's caused
some issues with the cabin crew. You Yeah, like we
shouldn't have to deal with that.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
You shouldn't have to deal with that. No, that's that's
more for you. Do they need a onboard plumber at
all times? Did anyone yell out is there a plumber
on the plane? I mean that on a commercial flight
you might get a plumber on the plane, you know,
but you're not on a charter flight.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
You're not. You're just going to get a bunch of
AFL guys that don't know what to do. Yeah, and
then you've got a bunch of phizios on there. It's like,
what good are you going to be? Yeah? Sure, if
I go into cardiac arrest or have a bit of
a cramp, you could help me out. Yeah, but what
happens when I clog the toilet down the back? Yeah?
Professional teams need to be traveling with plumbers. It's a
good take. Yeah, I think they do.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
I mean the English team travels with a hairdresser, so
that guarantee to go with the English football team is
guaranteed to go with sweet fades. If you ever wonder
why they all come onto the field with the sweetest
fads I have, and it's because they travel always with
the hair dresser.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Not a bad gig. They were traveling. Yeah, if you've
got a hear dress and models, we'll take a plumber.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, who knows if you need to you know, knock
together a I don't know, a windy house or something.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Take a builder as well, a full trade stuff. All right,
we're going to take quick break. When we come back,
we're going to preview the All Backs taking on Fiji
in San Diego tomorrow afternoon. Snap Dragon Stadium is the
name of the venue for tomorrow's game.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yep, yep, powerful namevers that fifty five thousand. I was
talking to Mills mullya earlier today and he said that
it's hard to get tickets where he said he found
eat enough it sold out, but he said he was
struggling to get free tickets.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Because for his family.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
So so you know, like if there's a lot of
tickets floating around, you know, if someone's rung up Meles
and said, mate, four hundred tickets.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, you know, like you.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Got to need anyone want to go.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
I've got some tickets, you know, I've got twelve tickets
or something that hasn't happened. So Meles is scratching around
for tickets. That's a good sign.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
It is a good sign. I don't know whether that
means that it's going to be a seller, because paid
tickets probably still very very available. Fifty thousands quite a lot. Yeah,
that's what of them filled out Eaden Park on the weekend.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
And that's yeah, and like no disrespect to Fiji, fantastic.
They was put on a show. But you know, in
terms of bringing in the crowd, you know, yeah, you
know you've got the all blacks, the mistique of the
all blacks.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
It was all blacks. I don't know England or.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm interesting to see it go back,
but I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
I think something, you know, like you all blacks are
only paying a dollar six And me and Jerry were
thinking about mortgaging our houses and putting it on there
because you know you're going to get if you put
a million dollars down. I mean, Jerry will be bringing
in about nine million dollars for his house. But you
know that's it, that's almost I was thinking, that's almost
a guaranteed six percent return over a week.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
What's six percent of a mill well, yeah, sixty thousand, so.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Okay, sure, is it sixth grade? Yeah, no, sixty sixty.
But anyway, what have you lost it?

Speaker 4 (18:42):
But then I was just suddenly thinking crazy stuff can
happen in San Diego. You're over there. I mean, the
first time Myland beat us was in Chicago. You've got
you've got the freshest team. You know, a lot of debutants,
a lot of debut a lot of a lot of debutants.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
The Fiji. I've beaten England, you know.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, so the seven dollars that that, you know, I
don't think there's there's a there's a world really with
Fiji beat us. No, but we used to think there
was no world where Island would beat us. But seven
seven dollars Fiji's playing, So it's a crazy it's a
crazy n No one's home ground. You're in California. It's
twenty six degrees, which is which is kind of knowably

(19:22):
better for the Fijians.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
So there's enough weirdness around, Yeah, that something could happen.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Oh totally. Somebody asked me this morning when I came in,
They said, oh, what are your tips for this weekend?
I said, I've gotta be honest with you. They're clear
of both the Warriors and the All Blacks this week.
I don't think there's too much value. You could get
on a tri scorer for the All Blacks, yeah, pretty comfortably,
but it won't be paying.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
You could get on a small margin for the All
Blecks victory win, all that victory, small margin.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
I just always think that if I'm betting on something
that's around a dollars six or a dollar fourteen or
something like that, I'm like, all I can think of
is if it doesn't come in, And I'm like, I
so much for such little reward. Yeah, and I missed. Yeah.
I always think of my bets. Aren't what do I
think is gonna happen? It's how would I like to win?
If I win? It's on what? Yeah, So I'm always

(20:12):
on try scorers and you know that kind of thing.
I don't like to beat the unders.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Yeah, although again, like an afternoon seems pretty good at
an afternoon game, you know our time, Oh, it's gonna
be a it's going to be a high scoring game,
high scoring afternoon game.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
A few punts, not a bad not a bad afternoon, not.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
A bad afternoon. Lane's still in witness protection. So myself
and Matt Wood on that one. Yeah, score protection do
I think we're going to score around the sixty seventy
point mark, right, I think they could still score about
twenty odd. Yeah, I do. They think we're gonna blow
them out off the park though, Yeah. I think it's
actually worse for fig that we've got all these debutantes
and rookies and that in there, because they've got like

(20:50):
Wallace the city, he's got something to prove. Yeah, he's
going to be killing people out there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah, court he's he's starting, is he?

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yes? He is? Yeah, yeah he was. He changed the game.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yeah last Saturday, and Barrett as well.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Yeah, and Bart's not he's not playing impact. He's starting
at fifteen. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I love Body as an impact player. Yeah. Well, and
you would argue that the most dangerous we were last
weekend was when Body and Courtiez came out. So Fiji
been looking at that and going off, Oh that sucks. Yeah,
although I guarantee you Fiji not looking at that at all. Courtiers,
you know, so named after the Nike shoes? Was that
the heaven Escape shoes? Were they wearing Nike Courtiers when
you know they.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
Drunk the kool Aid and the San Francisco cult that. Yeah,
they were wearing the same same sneakers.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Were they were wearing the Courtiers.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, I mean he's not named after I'm not saying
suggesting he's named after the heaven Gate Heaven's Gate cult. No,
but it's a great name. It's the greatest name in
using a sport at the moment.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Courtier. Yeah, Jacob Ruts and my Sovuki Nickins. Yeah, that's
up there. Mark no Wang going need to whissy. I
suppose he's in Australian Yeah, I think sixty seventy points
to about the twenty odd singing on rugby though its
stories just come out that Artie Savia is allegedly off
to mone and pacifica next year. Have you heard that?

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Is that next year?

Speaker 4 (22:07):
I was trying to work it out because it's said
he's on contract to twenty twenty five, but he might
be able to get out of the contract to the
end of you know what I mean, So that would
be with that, that would mean I always struggle when
you're out, but you're going to be you know, you're free.
But they said they might they might let them off contract. Yeah,
why would the Hurricanes in the off contract. I guess
if you don't want to be there, you don't want
to be there. But I mean it would be great

(22:28):
for Wina PACIFICA and there, and they're you know, sort
of a light you know.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Trying to look for the road word chances of drawing
an audience. He's going to reunite with his brother Julian
save the last year, and I actually think that's why
they signed him, Yeah, to be like, hey, can you
get in your brother's here and bring him over here.
You know he's did you get your misses and your
brother's here. He's about a year away from being World
Player of the Year. Yeah, he was our best player

(22:57):
at the World Cup as well.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
We'd need to stack teams a bit more, don't we.
You know, that's the thing. I mean, a close competition
is a good one. And if you're running basically a
communist regime like we are with the rugby Union, that's
what's why you might as well just stack the teams
and make them more even.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Is there a salary cap in super Rugby. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
No one knows how it works.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Nah.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
It's sort of some someone rings someone and they pay
them some money and they move to someone and someone
some people are allowed to go away and come back,
and there's there's but but you know, in the perfect world,
you'd go, let's rank them all and let's make all
the teams across New Zealand as even as we can.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
So give them a point value, and then each team
gets like a you've got fifty points to spend and
you can only put one from column one.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
It kind of doesn't work because of the positions, Like
you know, I mean, are there you know, how many
incredible halfbacks are there? Yeah, and how many incredible verse
fives are there?

Speaker 1 (23:53):
But like that, you know, we always say that a
draft system wouldn't work, and Super Rugby I fucking would
because that's pretty much how they used to do it. Anyway,
when they would sign the NPC players to Super Rugby teams,
they'd get all the dudes together at the start of
the season. It's like, look, we're probably going to sign
this guy. Did you want this guy? This guy? Oh
you want him, we'll sign him. Oh he doesn't want

(24:13):
to move to Auckland. Yeah, well cool, Well we'll pack
this guy up. That's basically a draft anyway.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Yeah, it's always amazing in the draft where someone goes
they've got no idea where they're going to go. Yeah,
and then they celebrate and it like, you know, they
might be from California and it's like you moving to
New England.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, well they're like what the That's usually the kneejerk
reaction against the draft system in New Zealand because it's like, oh,
but then they have to go and play. You know
what if you're from Wellington but you got drafted downstairs
need and it's like, hey, we all have to move
cities to neither of us are from Markland. Hey, exactly,
take your half passed podcast and tomorrow. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
I guess the problem is that you're paying millions and
millions and millions of dollars to in the American draft.
You might be getting sent down, you know, four hundred,
like a thousand kilometers from your home to a very
different climate and get getting paid seventy five grade a year.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, that is a good point. Having said that the
NBL they brought a draft in last year, only one
player got sorry a trade window, only one player got traded.
But you know, if the NBL, the National Basketball League
of New Zealand, can do it, yeah, then anyone can
do it. Which, speaking of there's some exciting news out
of the NBA. We're going to take quick break and
then we'll come back and talk about that. Just quickly

(25:24):
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(25:46):
Zealand Matt Heath, Yes, the basketball competition that's going on
at the moment, and they are eyeing expansion next year.
They're going to bring some new teams in the teams
that they're looking at bringing in from India. They're looking
to bring in teams from India into the men's and women's. Okay,
so they would have to move to New Zealand. Because

(26:07):
I've been to India and it took me about two
days to get there. I was thinking when I read this,
I was imagine you play for the Canterbury rams. You're right,
on Wednesday, you're playing against the Otago Nuggets. Then on
Friday you have to fuck off to a meta bed.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
So you'll be there's a there's there's a brutal layover
in Singapore.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, you're gonna get off and like run some suicides
just to get the leagues. But a blood pumping in
the leagues.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
But it'd be a great idea if they moved down
here and just pick somewhere where they're going to stay,
and then you know, they probably get quite a lot
of support.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
I feel like they looked at, like the NBL looked
at what are some of the richest sports and the
fastest growing sports that are going on at the moment,
and cricket is going on in leaps and bounds because
of the IPL. Yeah, it's changed most sports. Every other
sport has had to try and come up with their
version of the IPL. And when whenever anger the Indian
cricket fans our social media blows up seventy thousand comments

(27:05):
on a post blah blah. Yeah. So I think they've
just looked at them and go, well, fuck it, if
we're going to bring in a new team, I bring
in another team and Ash Burton. Yeah, when we could
just have access to one point five billion people. Do
you know I've got a theory about the NBL because
you know, basketball's you know, incredibly you know, popularizing, popular
getting bigger, and not just the NBA, but like participation.

(27:27):
I've got my theory on this.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
It's a game you can play by yourself, two people,
five people. It's half courts all over town. It's a
fantastic game like that, you know. But I was thinking,
if you're a TV and Z, you know, they've got
their problems with everything, just throw.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
The money at the NBL.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
I put the NBL on after freaking seven sharp yep,
every night, because who cares about your stupid American shows
you're spending million dollars on. Everyone's going to watch something
better on Netflix or Amazon or whatever. So just if
you just throw the fucking any money you've got in
the bank, TV and Z, if you're at buying the NBL,
and that could just blow up in this country, if

(28:05):
you know, if move the games seven o'clock, you know,
and the thing about playing a game later, you know,
going along to basketball games. I should go to Nuggets
games all the time. It's fine, because it's inside. Yeah,
it's fine, it's not. It's not sitting outside in a
freezing cold park.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
It's chill.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
It's the perfect game to be put moved into and
you could up, you could ramp that league right up
the wazoo. Yeah, so easily, because we're so desperate to
all we care about us watching live sport.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Right. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
So I don't know if there's anyone from TVNZ just
opened the check book. I don't know how you're going
to just throw money in it.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
I know Sky looking at doing something similar, because you say, right,
it's like going to a movie. You're sitting inside. Yeah,
seats are quite nice. Down a Q too long to
get a beer. And if you don't know anything about basketball,
it's a sport that you don't need explained to you. Yeah.
You know when you see a dunk that that was
a good play. You know, when someone hits a three point,
you like, oh, that was probably pretty good.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
You take someone along to cricket, they'll be like, wait,
why was that? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Yeah absolutely, I mean it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
You put the put the ball through the.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Hoop, Yeah, do it in spectacular fashion and get the
oos and as great. Yeah, I'm I'm all in on.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
So someone needs to just get that into primetime and
just it could be it could be something that changes
New Zealand's sporting landscape.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yeah, and you can play so many games.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
That's the thing.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
I mean one of the problems with you know, rugby,
yeah and league, because you can't play that many games
unless you're Mitch Barney.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
And then you seem to be able to just fuck it,
ram it.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
You seem to come back from an oh and probably
have a massive night out. Yeah, and and and then
I mentioned he's going to be incredible tonight.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
I just brought him into my fantasy teach I reckon
he's going to go great as well. Yeah, you're right.
The other thing is every kid's playing it because you know,
obviously appearents are concerned about head knocks and that. Yeah,
it's not too many head knocks and basketball. Also, it's
played on a week nights, you know, giving up your weekend.
It's indoors, you don't stand on a freezing sideline.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
It It's got the inside track, plus a bunch of
cool kit you know, oh.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
The best, the best kit, the best kit. Michael Jordan's
got dudes wearing sneakers with jeans sounder control. No one
else has done that for any other sport. Moving on
to Gulf, the Open Championship is teed off overnight our time.
They're over there in Troon in Scotland. Have you seen
Rory McElroy. He shanked his T shirt. It was one

(30:26):
of the most relatable things I've ever seen. So the
fairway went alongside of train track, train tracks just on
the right hand side of it as you're looking down
the fairway and he sliced the fuck out of it
and you could see him looking at it go and
it just sailed out over the train track into the bush.
Oh well, I was like, why not of us amount

(30:48):
of times I've been there, we have four kiwi's in
the field lanes. Actually put a bit on Dan Helliers
to come top.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Forty Okay, how's fox he doing?

Speaker 1 (31:00):
See is two over, Kazuma Kabori's two over as well.
Michael Hendry is three over and Dan Hillier is five over. Okay.
To put that in perspective, the leader at the moment
is Shane Lowry is five under. Wow, so not too well.
I think we got really excited about having four kiwis
in and we're like conflated that to be like, oh,
they going to win it.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah, we've got four of them. One of them is
going to win the problem with.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Four Kiwi's is when they get together in any area,
they're going to get first night fever and get massively
on the hammer.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Oh we should have been against them, Yeah, we should
have been four keys in one place.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
First night fever is impossible to avoid.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
You run into four of your mates in Scotland like
you're on.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
There's basically entrapment for New Zealander. We shouldn't let it happen.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
We shouldn't. It should be one Kiwi minimum maximum at
any international sporting event.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
That's what their agents are trying to organize. You can't
go into another agent. You can't put if they If
those guys get anywhere near each other, we're going to
be dusty.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
For the whole whole fucking thing. I think you stagger it.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
I think what they should have done is sent Ryan
Fox and Michael Hendry should have sent them over their veterans. Yeah,
they're gonna get on the purse, but they can handle it.
We need to keep Dan Hillier and Kazuma Gabori away
from those dudes, because they'll get caught in the backdrap
and they'll be fucked for the weekend. That's such a
good point. Just one last thing before we knock this
on the head for this week. This is the headline

(32:22):
that's got nothing to do with sports. It's vaguely sports adjacent.
That it's proved a theory that I've had for a while.
Hulk Hogan to warm up the crowd for Donald Trump's
first speech since assassination. Intent.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Man, that's the kind of thing that you see in
a movie that's a joke, you know, like it's just
off on a headline. Yeah, you know, like sometime in
the future. It's like back to the Future too or something.
There's a crazy ass headline happening. It's like something the Simpsons.
It would have been an idiocracy.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
And I've had this theory for a while that actually
what happened in COVID was we all actually died, right,
and the last four years has been you know, the
last like brains like alive for eight minutes and it's
thinking all these weird thoughts and you don't know that
you're dead yet. Jesus, I reckon. That's been us for
the last four years, all of the shit that's happened.
It's like, Maverick, have you read that theory about Top

(33:09):
Gun Maverick? No, that he died in the in the
you know, the first test pilot when he put it
over mac ten and then he walks into that sort
of diner and it's never explained what happened and the
rest of that because everything's gone wrong. And then after
that everything goes right for him. He falls in love,
he sorts out the whole problem with Goose and the

(33:31):
problems he's had with Goose's son, and if you can
actually there's a really good theory if you watch the
movie like that, and I've watched it like that, and
he goes, oh shit, I think he died. I think
he died when he pushed that plane too fast. Does
it explain Top Gun Maverick. Oh wait, this is about
Top Gun Maverick, not the original about Top Gun Maverick.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, right, So Top Gun Maverick is because he's in
a bad state after Top Gun and losing Goose, and
he's just sort of and then he then he pushes
it and then everything goes freaking you know, everything sorts
out in his life and he basically ends up in heaven.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
You know, do you think we've been mavericked as a people. Yeah,
I think that's likely. But the good thing about Hulkkon
coming out is if they've got to play fight for
the Rights of every Man. You know that song I
Am a great American fight for the rights of every man,
Fight for your rights, fight for your life. I feel

(34:26):
like theme song. That's as powerful a moment as any
to go out on.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
So I feel like we're not the second We've got
all lyrics around wrong, but you know, you know what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Look it up. Look it up.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Great song that's about the vibe. Enjoy your weekend.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Later on on this feed you will have the ACC
Sports Book with myself and Carl Tyley from the TB
commentary of the Warriors. Tonight is Me and Chris Key
from ten o'clock. Then tomorrow two thirty we get the
all Lex slide from two thirty. Otherwise Joey Weekends give.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Him a taste of Kiwi.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
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