The Lions are ready to roar to life when they face the Wallabies in their opening test match tonight.
The British and Irish side have won all five of their warm-up matches across the ditch and will face the Wallabies for the first time since 2013.
Legendary former Wallaby David Campese joined Adam Cooper to analyse the Australian team named for the first match of the three test series – is it understrength?
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldegrave from News Talk SEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yes, what, it's been a very successful tour of Australia
so far for the British and Irish Lions, unbeaten on
Australian soil so far. They've had wins over the Western Force,
the Queensland Reds, the war Retars, the Brumbies. Yeah, the
list grows, doesn't it. And of course last week in
that invitational Australia and New Zealand site, and of course
(00:33):
Andy Farrell's side will be looking to emulate the series
win on the last visit to Australia, which is back
in twenty thirteen, which they won two to one. And
I think it's fair to say when you look at
these two teams, you look at some of the injuries
in the Wallabies camp and the strengths of the Lions team,
that you'd certainly back the British and Irish Lions heading
into Test one of the three Tests in Brisbane this evening,
(00:56):
lest let's cross the ditch now to look ahead to
this game and joining us to preview the next three
tests and tonight's one as David Campeazy played one hundred
and one times for the Wallabies. Eighty five of those
were tests, of course, playing at wing and fall back,
retiring in nineteen ninety six, but still a vary close
(01:16):
follower of the rugby scene in Australia. David is with us.
Morning to you, David, thanks for your time and yeah,
I guess that the Wallabies have had a few injuries.
But when you look at the selections of both teams,
how have you sort of assesssed what players both coaches
are putting on the park tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, look, I think it's very interesting that Morgan wasn't
picked for the lines. I think he's been playing very
well at plank. Not to have a washman in the
size is very unusual. But look, you know, I just
think that the Lions should have the advantage because they
have had a few warm up games to sort of
get into the rhythm of things. Again, you don't know
(01:55):
what's going to happen the referees these days, the comos,
there's always something off the field that's a bit of
a drama. I'm pick about the Wallabies. I mean Joe
Smith as a coach and OB's a KeyWe have half
bonders about it, but I don't think he picks the
same captain in successive test matches. He has to pick
number nine, number ten execs in test matches, and anyone
(02:17):
you talk to a rugby to play international rugby neat
combinations and if you haven't got the combinations under pressure
and for the part. So I'm a bit weary about that.
I think Joe said after the BG game, we're underprepared.
I mean, really, you're funny knowing that the lines would
coming out for the last four years. So it's yeah,
it's not it's not great at the moment. After the
(02:40):
last couple of games the hand that game well so
calland that game last week was a debarcle. It would
be better to pick a Australian b or even the
Barbarian side to play because it just didn't seem to
work and you know, losing forty something to Neil made
it is not a great a great thing for Australian rugby.
But the lines, obviously you can only play as well
as your position. Less you play exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, some interesting selections for the Wallabees, aren't there, but
also some injuries. How how under strength as that the
wider sort of group of players that Joe Schmitt has
had his options for this test? Do you think well?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And I said, he's known for a while this test
is on. I mean I don't understand, you know, I
mean in eighty nine we all we knew what's happening.
But you know you got Will Skelton come all the way,
Finger gets injured, Drip Boo has been kicked out to
go play a game like James O'Connor came back and
he should. I don't know if you saw the Playo
Trager stitchers and got everything. I mean, what they do
in a training he's supposed to play a Test match
(03:34):
and you get half the guys who injured. A training
was ridiculous. When we play it, no one everybody do
the training. So I don't know. It must be a
training problem. I don't know what's happening. Again, it's just
not great for an international team to be going into
a Test match when you've got half the guys are injured.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, given Andy Farrell has chosen a forward pack that
is obviously just the toughest, the most physical pack he
can probably name, and his starting fifteen, what kind of
indication does that give you how they want to play
this opening test.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Well, I mean going to obviously attack the scrumb and
the breakout and simple. I mean, you've got to play
two strengths and you know in the past of the
line that's where they were very physical. You know, if
you look at the last couple of games as well,
it's been men be boys. You know, the Lion who
got thirty year olds versus a lot of the Australian
franchise and very young guys. Because some of the players
(04:26):
are in tests mode, they were allowed to play, so
they gave all the young guys a chance. It was
a great experience, but I mean again made I just
I just don't know sometimes what the selectors look at
him and you know what Australian rugby is trying to
achieve out of this when you know you've got guys
who are injured at training.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, I mean, does that raise questions as to what
they're doing at training? Do you think it's more than
a coincidence, I guess is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, look, I just think you know, I mean, I
think even Joe Smith came out after the V GEN game,
so we're underprepared really, you know, I mean jure a
visical side and we're lucky to win that game. So
I just I just don't understand why didn't prepare promptly?
I mean again, but for me, when you get to
Test rugby, the most important thing is combinations. You've had
(05:20):
nine and ten not play together. You've had Donaldson and
I think the Australian half number nine. You know they're
the best combination in Australia. And Craig Govermot so mcdermot's right, yeah,
and take the German and they don't play. They played
(05:41):
one week, they don't play the next week. Lina hasn't
played for a while and he gets a job. I
just don't understand. Your big James O'Connor, who's played some
great rugby for the Crusaders, the only Australian is one
of our Super rugby titles ten years played for his
zel team and they bring you me the big who
about it and then they don't pick him. I just
(06:02):
I just don't understand. As soon as we go back
to Australian coach and sooner I'll be happy. Because someone
actually mentioned the other night Australian rugby played their best
rugby when the coach has got ninety pops and the
coach came from Randon who won't played for in Sydney,
and that's when we used to play a fantastic style
of rugby. At the moment, I don't know what's sole
we're trying to play because it's not austraight running.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So Joe Schmetz obviously stayed on for this tour. How
much will what happens in these three tists define what
he's done at the Wallabies through his whole tenure?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Do you think, Well, mate, that hasn't been great. Sorry,
but I'm just not impressed. You know, we're more of
walk twenty two meters. We never did that. We used
to attack him the twenty two. But the probably worst
thing is we've got these kids coming in and he's
had two games against the line and lost by forty
and both of them. So mate, I just don't know
(06:54):
where we go. I think I'm very skeptical about where
we're going to end up with the World Cup in
two years time twenty seven. Sorry, So I don't know,
I get mate, Yeah, you know and all that's very
very difficult, but that's just my opinion. Now I'm coaching
thirty year olds at the moment and they don't even
watch the game. How can you play rugby not watch
(07:16):
the game and then try and be a Wallaby? I
don't understand.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, no, it's interesting times. So I guess before you
go to have it a score production then maybe for
Test number one at some Corps stadium and it's all
pointing to your going to back the lines. They have
a pretty handy win.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Well mate, if they If the Lions can't be this
my thirty mate, we're in a rid of trouble you know.
I mean they are a bit of trouble as well,
because they're some really good players have been playing combinations
for me. For the Lion's Bin Russells the key. He's
the one who says the game of like you don't
know what he's going to do, and that's what rugby's about.
If you look at the Australian team you can see
(07:51):
exactly what the players do and again the combination factor
is violent. Test rugby.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
David, appreciate your time and your thoughts. Yeah, it'll be
interesting to see how it all plays out this weekend
for Tests one, So thanks for joining us. Here on
new Storks.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
TV casy Mate. Thanks very much, has.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
David Campese Wallaby Centurion with us here on the Allsport Breakfast.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
For more from The All Sport Breakfast with Darcy Watergrave,
listen live to News Talk set be on Saturday mornings,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldegrave from News Talk SEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yes, what, it's been a very successful tour of Australia
so far for the British and Irish Lions, unbeaten on
Australian soil so far. They've had wins over the Western Force,
the Queensland Reds, the war Retars, the Brumbies. Yeah, the
list grows, doesn't it. And of course last week in
that invitational Australia and New Zealand site, and of course
(00:33):
Andy Farrell's side will be looking to emulate the series
win on the last visit to Australia, which is back
in twenty thirteen, which they won two to one. And
I think it's fair to say when you look at
these two teams, you look at some of the injuries
in the Wallabies camp and the strengths of the Lions team,
that you'd certainly back the British and Irish Lions heading
into Test one of the three Tests in Brisbane this evening,
(00:56):
lest let's cross the ditch now to look ahead to
this game and joining us to preview the next three
tests and tonight's one as David Campeazy played one hundred
and one times for the Wallabies. Eighty five of those
were tests, of course, playing at wing and fall back,
retiring in nineteen ninety six, but still a vary close
(01:16):
follower of the rugby scene in Australia. David is with us.
Morning to you, David, thanks for your time and yeah,
I guess that the Wallabies have had a few injuries.
But when you look at the selections of both teams,
how have you sort of assesssed what players both coaches
are putting on the park tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, look, I think it's very interesting that Morgan wasn't
picked for the lines. I think he's been playing very
well at plank. Not to have a washman in the
size is very unusual. But look, you know, I just
think that the Lions should have the advantage because they
have had a few warm up games to sort of
get into the rhythm of things. Again, you don't know
(01:55):
what's going to happen the referees these days, the comos,
there's always something off the field that's a bit of
a drama. I'm pick about the Wallabies. I mean Joe
Smith as a coach and OB's a KeyWe have half
bonders about it, but I don't think he picks the
same captain in successive test matches. He has to pick
number nine, number ten execs in test matches, and anyone
(02:17):
you talk to a rugby to play international rugby neat
combinations and if you haven't got the combinations under pressure
and for the part. So I'm a bit weary about that.
I think Joe said after the BG game, we're underprepared.
I mean, really, you're funny knowing that the lines would
coming out for the last four years. So it's yeah,
it's not it's not great at the moment. After the
(02:40):
last couple of games the hand that game well so
calland that game last week was a debarcle. It would
be better to pick a Australian b or even the
Barbarian side to play because it just didn't seem to
work and you know, losing forty something to Neil made
it is not a great a great thing for Australian rugby.
But the lines, obviously you can only play as well
as your position. Less you play exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, some interesting selections for the Wallabees, aren't there, but
also some injuries. How how under strength as that the
wider sort of group of players that Joe Schmitt has
had his options for this test? Do you think well?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And I said, he's known for a while this test
is on. I mean I don't understand, you know, I
mean in eighty nine we all we knew what's happening.
But you know you got Will Skelton come all the way,
Finger gets injured, Drip Boo has been kicked out to
go play a game like James O'Connor came back and
he should. I don't know if you saw the Playo
Trager stitchers and got everything. I mean, what they do
in a training he's supposed to play a Test match
(03:34):
and you get half the guys who injured. A training
was ridiculous. When we play it, no one everybody do
the training. So I don't know. It must be a
training problem. I don't know what's happening. Again, it's just
not great for an international team to be going into
a Test match when you've got half the guys are injured.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, given Andy Farrell has chosen a forward pack that
is obviously just the toughest, the most physical pack he
can probably name, and his starting fifteen, what kind of
indication does that give you how they want to play
this opening test.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Well, I mean going to obviously attack the scrumb and
the breakout and simple. I mean, you've got to play
two strengths and you know in the past of the
line that's where they were very physical. You know, if
you look at the last couple of games as well,
it's been men be boys. You know, the Lion who
got thirty year olds versus a lot of the Australian
franchise and very young guys. Because some of the players
(04:26):
are in tests mode, they were allowed to play, so
they gave all the young guys a chance. It was
a great experience, but I mean again made I just
I just don't know sometimes what the selectors look at
him and you know what Australian rugby is trying to
achieve out of this when you know you've got guys
who are injured at training.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, I mean, does that raise questions as to what
they're doing at training? Do you think it's more than
a coincidence, I guess is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, look, I just think you know, I mean, I
think even Joe Smith came out after the V GEN game,
so we're underprepared really, you know, I mean jure a
visical side and we're lucky to win that game. So
I just I just don't understand why didn't prepare promptly?
I mean again, but for me, when you get to
Test rugby, the most important thing is combinations. You've had
(05:20):
nine and ten not play together. You've had Donaldson and
I think the Australian half number nine. You know they're
the best combination in Australia. And Craig Govermot so mcdermot's right, yeah,
and take the German and they don't play. They played
(05:41):
one week, they don't play the next week. Lina hasn't
played for a while and he gets a job. I
just don't understand. Your big James O'Connor, who's played some
great rugby for the Crusaders, the only Australian is one
of our Super rugby titles ten years played for his
zel team and they bring you me the big who
about it and then they don't pick him. I just
(06:02):
I just don't understand. As soon as we go back
to Australian coach and sooner I'll be happy. Because someone
actually mentioned the other night Australian rugby played their best
rugby when the coach has got ninety pops and the
coach came from Randon who won't played for in Sydney,
and that's when we used to play a fantastic style
of rugby. At the moment, I don't know what's sole
we're trying to play because it's not austraight running.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So Joe Schmetz obviously stayed on for this tour. How
much will what happens in these three tists define what
he's done at the Wallabies through his whole tenure?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Do you think, Well, mate, that hasn't been great. Sorry,
but I'm just not impressed. You know, we're more of
walk twenty two meters. We never did that. We used
to attack him the twenty two. But the probably worst
thing is we've got these kids coming in and he's
had two games against the line and lost by forty
and both of them. So mate, I just don't know
(06:54):
where we go. I think I'm very skeptical about where
we're going to end up with the World Cup in
two years time twenty seven. Sorry, So I don't know,
I get mate, Yeah, you know and all that's very
very difficult, but that's just my opinion. Now I'm coaching
thirty year olds at the moment and they don't even
watch the game. How can you play rugby not watch
(07:16):
the game and then try and be a Wallaby? I
don't understand.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, no, it's interesting times. So I guess before you
go to have it a score production then maybe for
Test number one at some Corps stadium and it's all
pointing to your going to back the lines. They have
a pretty handy win.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Well mate, if they If the Lions can't be this
my thirty mate, we're in a rid of trouble you know.
I mean they are a bit of trouble as well,
because they're some really good players have been playing combinations
for me. For the Lion's Bin Russells the key. He's
the one who says the game of like you don't
know what he's going to do, and that's what rugby's about.
If you look at the Australian team you can see
(07:51):
exactly what the players do and again the combination factor
is violent. Test rugby.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
David, appreciate your time and your thoughts. Yeah, it'll be
interesting to see how it all plays out this weekend
for Tests one, So thanks for joining us. Here on
new Storks.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
TV casy Mate. Thanks very much, has.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
David Campese Wallaby Centurion with us here on the Allsport Breakfast.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
For more from The All Sport Breakfast with Darcy Watergrave,
listen live to News Talk set be on Saturday mornings,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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