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May 9, 2025 14 mins

This week’s panel features NZ Herald Online Sports Journalist Alex Powell and Gold Sport Rugby Commentator Hamish McKay. On the agenda this weekend: 

  • New Zealand Rugby suffers a massive loss, despite a record income for 2024 
  • Go Media Stadium gets the nod over Eden Park 
  • Are we unlikely to see India and Pakistan play each other in cricket again? 

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast Podcast with Darcy
Waldgrave from News Talk sed B three All Sports Breakfast,
All Star Panel.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
And our All Star Panel. This morning consists of mister
Amos McKay's step on up to the breach, my friend hellou,
oh good morning dance.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Deficated to do, but I'll tell you what you're on fire.
I've got my Boston Celtics kept covering my bull patches
because I'm terrified that they're about to go out. But
I'm ready to go, Chap, I'm ready to.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Go indeed, all right, nothing like soiling the bid cheeks
when you post to be playing basketball. Alex Powell is
our other guest from n ZID Herald Fellow Formula one tragic,
that's the only way to describe it, but he gets
sporty Alex, How.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Are you morning dance? Only a week ago till we
can talk about racing again?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I don't know we can do it right here because
you know what it's having an Indy car there. I
forget about it, Just move on. No one wants to
hear any of this. Start off Homus McKay with you
New Zealand Rugby. They make record income, but they still
lose twenty million down the bag of a couch.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
What the.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Well, you know, I just reading the County Scotsman Gregor
Paul's article in the in the New Zealand Herald today.
You know some of those some of those cost centers,
you know that what one hundred grand on some extra
New Zealand rugby staff in Japan twenty seven extra staff,
there's something like seventy on the ground. Are some of
these expenses are just ridiculous, completely out of control, you know,

(01:41):
I know there are a couple of names mentioned of
board members who knew they were gone within a month
going off to the UK. I mean, if you run
the slide roll over here, you know some of the
you know, some of the spending is just just ridiculous.
But you know, you know, and you know it's going
to be the Manawa Two's of this world that will
suffer and they damn well shouldn't. Unfortunately, you know, there's

(02:04):
got to be some changes these two wards, running these
two boards and all the duplicate costs of that ridiculous
it is.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
And Alex Powell, Mike Hasking and Mike's minette wrote a
peace saying, look if you if you can't make a
profit when things are good, you're in all sorts of
trouble when things turn on you. And that's where are
that they make the biggest profit they have, but they
still can't make any money or something of the biggest profit.
They've dragged in the most money they ever had, but

(02:32):
they still can't turn a profit. And it's reasonably good
times too.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
So you look at what the sort of points do
and it's wider, not just using rugby. I don't think
any of them why sorry, I know all of the
major unions apart from South Africa are also running at
a loss. I think so AFKA made a very small
profit and that's just because so many of their players
are based overseas and that's a huge chunk off what

(02:55):
they actually have to pay. So if you look at that,
you'd say rugby actually itself does have a bit of
a problem of living within its means at the moment.
You think of where professional sport's at now, and we
sort of bends over backwards to match that and say
the players, hey, you can come and play our code
and earn a lot of money. So well, maybe you
might not be able to and Rugby might have to
come to terms with that.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Within your means again, might goes on about your your
budget at home, you get X and if you overspend X,
well what are you going to do? Not eat or
just dig into your savings, which invariably is what they're doing,
but probably be on my station to look at finances
when you look at what I've got in the bank
and that operates and it's just let that one go hamous.

(03:37):
What about Eden Park not getting the final of the
A League should, of course Auckland FC actually qualify for
that final, it's going to go to go maybe your
stadium instead. This is kind of good for them, but
kind of terrible for everybody else.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Right, Yeah, well, you get the feeling that there's enough
of a following and a wider following like those who
will jump on the bandwagon for a finals appearance. That's
got to happen. And that last game did consume me
a little bit. But yeah, pure numbers wise, and in
terms of making a buck, I guess Eaton Park was

(04:16):
a sense of I've got a bit again. I don't
even know what they call the I call it dirty
old mount smart, but you know, I don't know I've
always had good sporting memories there, even though that sort
of feels like an eight hundred for a meter track
with some grand grandstands slapped up. But I don't know.
That's where I get the good vibe about Auckland f
C and what they've achieved in this season. So I'm

(04:36):
happy to be there a few extra seats while they
reckon twenty nine thirty thousand should they make the Grand Final,
I reckon, we'll be a pretty good day and we
won't really worry too much about where it was held.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, hen's teeth these tickets, Alex. And when you think
of the amount of people that have actually attended games
for Auckland FC throughout the entire year, there'll be a
lot of people want to go to this and have
a look. But I sincerely hope that the fan base,
the people that have gone week in week out, actually
get access to these tickets first. They're the ones who

(05:08):
deserve to be at a final should it be held.
There are not bandwagon jumpers like.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Me, right, no, exactly. I think Aucklands have done really
well to offer tickets to their members first. So I
mean fingers crossed that the people that deserve to be
there can be there, But no, I completely agree with
what Hamish has said, like Mount Smart it will go
MEETI said, what do you want to call it? These days?
Has done such a good job this year of being
Auckland Dept's home and the fans that have gone and

(05:36):
have really made it what it is. So to see
that rewarded with potentially two finals games there, one being
a Grand Final if they can qualify, is just what
the sport needs in this country. You know, you look
at what the smaller grounds in England do and yes
you don't get as many people in there, but when
you are in there, it just feels better and Eden
Park does. Really unless Eden Park is completely sold out,

(05:58):
it can be quite hollow. So to see it at
go Media Stadium I think as a win.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, Eden Park full to the annals is quite something else.
It really is. It's just a difficult thing to fill
it like that. Maybe not for this case, but hey
they've got the Blues A League want it happening on
a Saturday. So off to an Arta tongue because that's
the original name of Mount Smart is Hamish McKay and
Alex Powell hang in there. Guys, we're going to be back.

(06:25):
It's eight forty you know on New Storks there be
eight forty two dares a water gave GJ. Gardener, Holmes,
Hamis McKay and Alex Power. What a team, Alex. I
love talking to Dame Nolan Tata because she says exactly
what she thinks and neple in New Zealand don't try and
stop her. I wish other codes were like that. She

(06:49):
wants grace, wekee playing regardless. Change the eligibility laws. Hard
to argue against her. Have you got a case there, Alex, No, I'm.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
I'm if if Dame Noling Tota has said something, it's
probably right, isn't it. These eligibly rules for our silver
fans decent archaic at the moment with the way netball
is like, it's such a huge disadvantage to keep silver
fans playing in the A and Z Premiership just for
the sake of it, so we can say our players
playing it when Australia is the place to be. It's

(07:19):
a better competition, they make more money, they're playing against
better players, they're playing with better players. It just makes
no sense in twenty twenty five that this is where
we're going to draw this line.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
But Hami Chakhan open the gate and there's a bull
rush because suddenly it does destroy the integrity of New
Zealand netport, which is really really important. But when it
comes to exceptions, you look at Grace Weekend and go, well,
there's an exception right there. Do something.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, look, you know what do you where are you
going to sort of who are you going to compare
it to? I mean, we'll make an exception and rape
for Dan Carter in his prime. Surely we would. It
goes back to when you think about when you see
on rugby twenty five thirty years ago, we're not mine.
Your coaches go off, Sure that'll be like the keywing
for it. Everybody else will start. It's just bollocks. It's

(08:07):
just it's just a ridiculous scenario. In twenty twenty five.
Come on, she's a superstar and I like to win,
even if we have to give our integrity a little
poke in the rips.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
It's not going to see her again. She's just gone.
I play for a season with the Swifts and she's
coming back and wow, playing against the might of Australian defenses,
so good for Grace Wick to upskill herself. So yeah,
and as I said, I just love the way that
Dame Noles just says what she wants and no one complains.

(08:43):
Moving on to our next topic and Alex Powell, are
we likely to see India and Pakistan ever play cricket again?
Considering what's going on now?

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Now?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Look, all of the New Zealanders from the PSL are
either on the way to Dubai actually coming straight home.
I spoke with Heath Mills last night. But the rift,
well it's more than a riff, isn't it that between
India and Pakistan? Is that going to lead to even
less cricket because there's none on anyway between those two.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, I mean it's a scary thought, isn't it? Like
to be short here, I honestly just don't know what
this will ever mean for Indian Pakistan, Like they don't
really play each other now, they only play each other
in World Cups and like so much so we have
tournaments spring up every year just so India can play
Pakistan somewhere and the ICC can make a bit of money.
But what's going on now, like the threat of I

(09:37):
mean hopefully not, but the threat of nuclear war. I
think Trump's cricket. So whether or not those two can
ever play each other, and like they asked, Indian coach
got in Gambia the other day and he said, no,
they shouldn't play each other. And if that's come from
the coach, like, let's be honest. If India says we're
not doing this, it's not happening. So if India decided
they never want to play Pakistan again, that's probably it.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Well they should think they're like the stars. There is
this issue because like it wasn't for that, they wouldn't
have won the champions trophy because they would have had
two around like everybody else did another story. You know
what I mean, It's like, oh, we are India, we
do what we want. We're not playing Pakistan. We're going
to stay right here in comfort and travel zero kilometers
and then when and celebrated is the best cricketers of whatever.

(10:22):
Is that a little too emotional for me? Do you
think a Hamers said to Wes bring the players back
out regardless.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, you get them out of there for a start.
I don't think you're wrong, smack. I mean India Unfortunately
New Zealand Rugby used to try and play the you know,
you pay us to play at tricking them, Thanks very much,
all that kind of mentality. But India unfortunately in this
situation too big, too powerful, too strong, whether you like
it or not, they just can continue to go the
tune here. I was a surprise, Alex. You know, like

(10:49):
looking back that we that those two teams haven't played
apart from the World cups et cetera. So yeah, it's
a much bigger picture when there's twenty six people dead
at the resort, you know, and the whole wider scheme
of things. I'm not even sure we can you know
that'll It's a much broader time, isn't it. But one
you're right to get emotional about it?

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Does that?

Speaker 3 (11:09):
You know? It's you know, they are pretty powerful, aren't they.
They call all the shots.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
They can be as powerful as they want. But one
thing they cannot be is the victors of the last
Test series on their own name grounds and Dads. Yes,
will always be in history, b CC. I buy that
three mil at homes in New Zealand. I am so petty, Alex.
Let's finish things off with Peter Landi's a player swap

(11:38):
with the Force and the ridiculously named Perth Bears the Quakers.
What is he talking about?

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Don't you just love Peter of Landers. It's just come
out with something like that, you know what, I think
he's great. This obviously isn't going to happen, isn't it.
No professional team would agree to this, to share players
with another one. I mean, you look at when the
Perth Bears do coming in twenty twenty seven. They're going
to have a whole celery cap to fill, and I
don't think they're going to have too much trouble actually
completing a roster. When you look at the players who

(12:08):
might want to go over there and make a bit
more money as a marquet player. We could be talking
about a guy like a painhas becoming a two million
dollar player. So I mean, they're not going to have
trouble filling that roster.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
It's apparently quite a nice place to live too. I've
been there because it's it's so far away. But the
hamous what we've got here is I don't think this
is a play rugby thing from l Andi's. It's more
of an anti a f l. It's so freaked out
by how's the rules, they do anything to gunder it.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
We're talking about a big time based on that. I mean,
you know, in a in a dream world, I'd love
to see Carlo Tizano is at the dry scoring machine
loose forward from the from the Western Force play on
Saturday and they play for the Bears on Sunday. But
it ain't going to happen. Mister Delandy, he's got he's
got he's got his headlines here. You know, they're just
they're just keeping the thing out to the forefront of discussion. Yeah, yeah,

(13:03):
but they're not going to happen.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Just yeah, no, was that really good? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Funny because Perth getting even before Papua New Guinea, which
is announced ages ago, the chances of New Zealand getting
in a second teller right, moving along, one last thought,
nice and quick Alex top of the table clash. The
Crusaders are hosting the Chiefs at the ice Box. Which
way does it go?

Speaker 4 (13:25):
I have the Crucidaders.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
You don't think you know what about you? Hamis McKay.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Well, you know the Chiefs. Woman had to have after
after the Reuben Love Young hacken at Fullback last week's
show that took the cheese that won't be doing a
bit of dig deep in deep digging something like that,
isn't it. Yeah, So I'm gonna I'm going to go
to the Chiefs and it'll be a slight upset. I think,
you know, it's pretty fifty fifty call going into this,
But I think the Chiefs, if they want to sort

(13:54):
of put their foot down, put the field of the
middle of the foot on the throat and show who
they are, they need to win this one tonight.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
This is so suddenly rolls through and ruins what little
hope they have. And I'm feeling now guilty that I've
been so positive and uplifted and almost arrogant about the
crusader's chances. It'll explode in my face. But the nice
thing is, I don't believe in curses. It's got nothing
to do with me. It's all about the mokeey from
the men. Alex Powell, Hamish McKay, thank you both very much.

(14:24):
Have tremendous weekends.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
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(14:49):
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