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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldgrave from News Talk SEDB All Sport Breakfast All Star Panel.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And Eer All Star Panel as well that guy Clay Wilson. Clay,
welcome on into the mess. Not that you've left to
come back, but there you go. And also we've got
our freelance sports journalist Ada mcglachlin that joins us one more.
How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Very good? Darcy? How's yourself?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm better now I can hear you when we've got
you moving on up and we're going to get into
our subjects. So this is fascinating, this cricket thing. I mean,
in your thoughts on this one, because I know you're
a tragic for this beautiful game, the American Expedition. To me,
it sounds a lot more relevant, lot less prone to
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danger than what enz it Are did when they ran
off with silver Ad.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
That's the first comparison I've heard like that all week.
To be honest with you, dsy had you thought about
that one? But yeah, I can see where you're going
with it. Look, what's the old saying, if you can't
beat them, join them. I think Scott Weenick likes to
do things his way, doesn't he. You know, we have
the recent example where he went in to negotiate with
Sky TV and left TV and Z's out of the party.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
And now they've gone and done this investment in Major
League cricket.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
So fair play to them for coming up with a
different model or different idea to try and work their
way through this nightmare of an international calendar that we've
got now with all this franchise cricket and what have you.
And I guess they've decided that one way to be
in there is to make this financial investment which gives
them a little bit of control where they can place
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some of their players, they can have some coaching involvement
as well. And they've also got this second option, I think,
to invest in a second franchise in twenty thirty one.
And when you consider that the Olympics is coming up
in Los Angeles in twenty twenty eight, there's a hell
of an expet population over there in a Marriam all
sorts of different countries that will be interested in this
in this franchise league. Hey, I don't think it's necessarily
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a bad thing. I don't think it's going to affect
test cricket in any way whatsoever. It's in the existing
competition and they've just gone, hey, it's an investment, let's
give it a go.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well, it looks like they're going to be cashing in
right from the get go seven figure figure to actually
help out with coaching staff.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
And the like.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Clay seems a little more sound than, as I'm saying before,
than silver Lake. Is this the right direction for them
to go, because as the world's moving on, the cricketing
world moving on at such a pace, you can sit
there on the sidelines and watch it. Suddenly it's a
dot on the horizon and you missed out. It appears
that they're acting in the best interest of the game
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while it happens. Is he more risk here? Do you think?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Well?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Not?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Well, I think any time you make an investment in anything,
there's that comes with risk, right, and there's always more
than meets the eye, And I feel like this situation
perhaps is. But of course there's logic. There's due diligence
done by New Zealand Cricket spending the money out of
the national coffers to put into this into this team
that's going to start four months long enough. Yeah, and
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this is the thing, and I think it's too prong
from New Zealand Cricket, right. The big thing that came
out for me from Scott Ween the CEO talking about
it was revenue and this is a way to drive revenue.
And the other thing is, of course the calendar the
Aiden was referring to and how just all over the
shop it's been. And with franchise cricket coming in and
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playing such a big part now about trying to make
sure international cricket and particularly Test cricket retains the prominence
that we all want it to, right, So it's a
balancing act to try and do all this. I think
you know. New Zealand Cricket's point of view is that
the money that comes from this will fund Test cricket,
because the reality is Test cricket is expensive to play.
New Zealand Cricket doesn't have a lot of a ton
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of money compared to the other big boards. So the
money that the revenue are hoping to get from this,
we'll be able to fund more Test cricket or at
least no reduction in Test cricket for the black.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Caps, and help out with also other parts of the
cricketing environment and women's cricket will stand to gain something
out of this. If they're looking at seven figures per annum.
The money for New Zealand cricket is for all of
New Zealand cricket, not just for the top tier, which is.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Wonderful and I think it's important to remember though that
this does any any investment does come with risk. Right
and said that this is a competition in America, which
is in a big cricket while they have a big
deesperate there of South Asian people, it doesn't necessarily mean
that it's going to succeed. There's a lot of a
lot of factors pointing in the right direction, but it'd
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be very interesting to see where it goes.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Aiden FC possibly going to win some silverware in their
debut season. They've got Perth in their way tomorrow, Perth
being one of only two teams that have managed to
beat them this year. Go figure. But they travel a
long way for this. This has been monumental. I think
as it started off, people like, oh, you know, good
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things come to an end. It can't go on forever.
You bet your eyelid, Yes, it has. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Oh it's been incredible.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
You know, you think back to someone like this the city,
you know, almost a decade ago now, where as you say,
surely this can't keep going, but it did.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It does, and it did in this case.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
And you know, they're so close now to just ticking
off that first box, which I agree with you. I
think anyone, probably outside the setup, would have been very
surprised if you'd said they'd be competing as strongly as
they are towards the business end of the season.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
But they don't want to stop now, you know, they
want to.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Make sure that they keep the form up for the
last couple of games in the A League regular season,
get the first piece of silverware, and then move on
to the you know, the grand type of the Grand
Final itself, and make sure that they finished the season
and make it as successful as it possibly could have been.
So all credit to them, and of course, yeah, it
doesn't make things easy for the old Phoenix, does it.
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It's amazing how after such a successful last season the
Phoenix had.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
You know, the tables have literally been turned, haven't they.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I'm calling it the Penny Clause, in the fact that
gian Carlo Teliano has done a rob Penny had an
awful year, but they haven't gassed and they've resigned him.
He'll come back bigger and badder next season. But as
far as Auckland goes Clay, what if they lose against
the Force, What if they lose their last game, what
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if they really start does that? Of course it's possible,
but likely.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Yeah, I think one point, you'd have to expect from
the last two games that they're gonna pick it up.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Sport.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
It is sport. Anything can happen, I think, regardless to
Aiden's point about this being an inaugural team and how
much success they've had, whatever kind of happens from here,
it's been a success has and I mean unless they
completely drop the bundle in the last two games and
then get sped out in the playoffs, it's pretty correickt.
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But then maybe. But even then, you know, if you
finish as a top a top two team in the
A League in your first season, it's still a pretty
damn good effort from his first startup team and a
pretty good foundation to go on.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
But if they don't win the whole shooting match from now,
the expectation is so big around the fan, but excuse me,
around the club as well.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
You take that problem though, I think I take you
take that over finishing last and in your first season,
you know, I think you do.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I think you do. Clay Wilson joined US Adam McLaughlin
also as part of the All Star panel. It's eight
forty three more chat on sports Surprise that coming up
next here on News Dog ZMB tell you it's your
Star Panel. Clay Wilson and Aiden McLaughlin and Sports Journal
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joining US sir Aiden NRL expanding eighteen teams not in
New Zealand Surprise surprise. Can't call a team the Bears
that's not based in North City.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
It's just dumb, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
It's turning into American sport, isn't it When you can
kind of move a franchise away and you can put
the Raiders wherever you want to put them.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
And that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah, that's one thing that kind of threw me when
I was reading about this development about the New the.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
New Side retreated maybe the Chicago Bears we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I'm getting confused. It's all very very confusing, indeed, But yeah,
interesting that they've obviously had their hearts set on this
this team in Perth for a while, haven't they, you know,
And the first proposal kind of got knocked back and
they said, you know, go away, think about it a
bit more and give us some more money basically and
set up a few other things. But it does look like, yeah,
it's very likely now than whatever eighteen months time or so,
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we're going to see the Bears on the West Coast
of all places, Darcy. But I'm not overly surprised that
it will be, you know, over there in Perth. And
I think, you know, if we are going to have
that second NROL team in New Zealand, it's going.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
To be a wee while away.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Ultimately, the Australians are going to look after themselves first.
They want to make sure that they're happy with the
structure they've got and hey, I mean look, you know
the Warriors have recently just signed another another deal to
play down and cross it for another.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Three years, I believe.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
So, you know, the South Island are going to get
their their little share of nerl action.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It's just not quite as much as they would hope for.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
It should be called the Goanna or the Quaker Clay,
anything but of beer.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Surely are they Western Australian.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
They're little we really, they're they're very cute, little we fluffy.
They're little fluffy mammals, aren't they aid? And I think
so anyway, they're lovely and they have no fear of humans.
So anyway as it is, yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
I think like the big thing out of this is
obviously you know, there's been a lot of talk about
a second New Zealand team out of Christs three beds
into even though where New Zealander is three four or five.
I lost out of how many bids. What the hell
is that there's an Auckland but now going around for
a second team in Auckland. But like Aden says, this
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kind of spells and I think most people, probably if
you looked into understood that the Western Australian government has
a lot of money to toss around.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You know.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
For the n r L, it's a business. This is
a business. If you can get a team to come
in and you know, pay a big lump sum to
come into the competition, then that's that's going to go
get you along way.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
And it is the National Rugby League, it's not the
International Rugby League. You know, they don't really they don't
as anything, right.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Yeah, And I think the NRL do consider New Zealand
to be a you know, a decent market. But you know,
the Warriors have really kind of uh have got themselves
going to a point where that that that clearly you know,
a team that belongs in that competition, but a second
team in New Zealand, probably for the NRL was still
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they still yet to be convinced. Clearly.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I think will convince them with a check for half
a billion dollars.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Which doesn't exist in this country, you know, correct, you're.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Right on that one. It's eleven minutes away from nine.
Just a quick word now, Aiden McLaughlin, Porsche Woodman Wickcliffe
back in a black jersey. She's not going to the
w NRL because she can't say she's back playing for
New Zealand again and what care form for the Blues
team suggests that she will be a weapon in the
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midfield too.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
It's it's interesting how this one has finished up, isn't it, Darcy.
I mean, the wranglings of a credit card company versus
the Women's NRL.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
It's worked out in New Zealand Rugby's favor. And that's
thirty three years of age She's showing absolutely no signs
of slowing down. She's had a really good season for
the Blues.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
And however much rugby she plays over in England in
this upcoming World Cup, she's just going to be such
an immense But you know, experience to call on in
that squad, isn't she You know, whether she plays one
game or she plays every game, or she comes off
the bench, she is there.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
She has so much.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Experience at all levels of rugby union, so much success
on the bank, and still a wonderful player. So she
is going to be an absolute massive advantage to have
on our side when it gets over there.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Youth, experience and everything else in the middle clay and
that's what this Black Ferns team, even though the squad's
what forty nine I think probably gets trimmed back, that's
what it's got. You can't go too wrong with that
kind of heady Max. Although you can play France and
Canada and England and it could all go pear shape,
but Porsia this is not.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Bad at all as well.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
I think the New Zealand rugby's a no brainer. If
you've got a player of her caliber has achieved what
she has and she's going to be available all of
a sudden. Again you say, thank you very much. You
know where do we sign? Don't you? From a New
Zealand rugby perspective, and like Aiden referred to this, this
has really been fortunate for New Zealand rugby because it
seems she had every intention to go and play in
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the NRL and make them move to league and then
of course that fell over because she's got a well
she did have. I'm not actually sure she's still doing
her ambassadorial role.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Maybe now she's going to be at the World Cup
as a player, she probably can't.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
I don't imagine you'll be ducking out of Black Ferns
meetings to go to, you know, a promo event. Some
we're down the road, but no. Look like great news
for the Black Ferns and their chances because, like you
mentioned about the competitors they've got. While they're defending champions,
they're going to be doing you know, it's going to
be a very very competitive World Cup and they're going
to need to be the absolute best to defend that title.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And they've got some players. I tell you, Aiden mcgloughlin,
thank you so much for your timing like after yourself,
have a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
They do the dates, they have a good one.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And to yourself as well. Mister Clay Wilson get up
there and calls a ruckus, thanks us eight fifty two.
I reckon Jason Pine is probably going to get on
them while shortly whatever, Ian, Yeah, let's find Pine.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
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