The latest edition of 'The All-Star Panel' features Rugby Commentator Hamish McKay and Newstalk ZB Sports News Director Clay Wilson.
On this weekend's agenda:
Who's going to win Super Rugby Pacific, cricket contracts are becoming more and more difficult for NZC, and what's going on behind the scenes at New Zealand Football?
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldgrave from News talks'b All Sports Breakfast, All Star Pedal, and.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
The All Star panel is all look Clay Wilson again,
surprise surprise. Are you staring at the television and looking
at this free kick from the Dutch twenty five meters
out from goal? You just keep an eye on that
while we get our other All Star panels on the line. Hey,
miss Macai, Hello friend.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
How are you? Dar's I'm absolutely crackingly fit on down
in the manner with two you know, it's a negative temperature,
the frosts on the Groundlock to watch some Saturday morning
forty oh no, wear a coat and some decent socks.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I think you'll be fine, you'll work through it, I'm sure. Right.
Let's look at the big sports stories are the week
and we'll start off with you the Chiefs, Blue Finals Amos,
the big game tonight. The general consensuency is no one
knows what on earth's going to go on come finals time.
I think the Blues have got the upper hand, but
the Chiefs, right, I think the less pressure is on
(01:09):
the Chiefs to actually get this done, which dees. To me,
they might actually be a roll over the top of
this is tight, mate.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Look I tell you what. I did a bit of
a straw pole and a function of that last night,
and a lot of people are backing the Chiefs for
that sort of they've got that hard nose kind of
top two inches. A lot of people also want the
Blues to win because they just think, you know, they're
Joe and they like the style of putty that playing.
But this is a fifty to fifty I don't think
I would have thought the Chiefs want to spent most
(01:36):
of the week getting the two dollars eighty that they
were paying.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
What do you reck and Clay, It is really hard
to pick. You could argue each way, I think reasonably convincingly.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, exactly like Amis said, fifty to fifty game, and
I think that's been the you know, that's been the
way going into the quarter finals. You looked at the Blues,
the Chiefs and the Hurricanes and you said, toss a
coin on the day, whoever performs is probably going to
win the respective matchup. And I think this is exactly
the same. I suppose Blues have home advantage, you give
(02:07):
them the slight advantage in that, but then the Hurricane.
The Chiefs went down to Wellington last week and beat
the Hurricanes down there, so know how to go away
and win. So it's really performs who performs on the night.
I don't have a horse in the race. I'm not
really worried. I hope it's just a great game that's
fitting of what's been a pretty good competition this year.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Ye the referee doesn't get in the way and talking
about being a home game, rumor has it that half
the crowd are actually coming up from Hamilton anyways, so
it could for all intents and purposes, actually Chiefs and
the cow cowbells on State Highway one. Yeah, don't get
on the motorway south of Auckland. Pretty much from now,
I think there's the best idea there. The sold out
(02:46):
nature of this clay, this is big. It's really gained
a whole lot of attraction over recent times, primarily because
Blues are there. It's about time. But what does this
say about the re engagement of the New Zealand public
with rugby union.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Well, it's a positive sign first and foremost after last
week because I have to say the crowd for the
Brumby semi final last week in Auckland wasn't flash.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You can't roster a game on a Friday night in
Auckland City. That's just minded.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Stupidity as a balance sake. But yes, that that's those
factors and the terrible Auckland where it didn't help. But
otherwise I think the interest has been at a much
higher level. You're right, and to have it sold out
so quickly as well earlier in the week is great.
You know, it takes you back to the healthyon days
of this competition, doesn't it to New Zealand teams in
New Zealand Derby Eden Park, you know, the sort of
(03:38):
the spiritual home of rugby and New Zealand or for
the All Blacks at least anyway, so really looking forward
to it.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Hamous full house. We've got to enjoy that. Does that
lean toward the Blues in your mind or the weight
of expectation crush them?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah? I think that's the top two inches scenario for them,
isn't it. I mean, if the if the hostins Tutos
of this world and can bring their a game, and
we've seen it on many occasions this season, he's really
responded well to that dumping last year and it'll be
up to the fast season co you know these guys.
I'm pleased that Patrick Typoloto's got over his injury pretty quickly.
(04:20):
I still believe that the Chiefs have a steely resolve
across you know, I don't know what it is and
their makeup, but it's pretty amazing. So yeah, look, I
think that the home advantage is not there because you say,
you know, half the tron and the white out, I'll
be making their way up up the line to have
a sold out game though that you know, was close
(04:41):
to a sold out game. That's what we're told. You
remember those heady early days, so that this could be,
you know, a magnificent shot in the arm for Rugby
because as you know, you know, it's been a bit
of a struggle. But we're two from here. But let's
just enjoy tonight for the occasion that it is anyway.
So yeah, what a thought.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Home is that that Rugby Union went out playing the
Warriors and over a week because that's it happens, people, mate,
They're playing away granted and this is a home final,
but all the energy has been with the Wars not
this week. It's all been about rugby union. It is
old school.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, that's right. Amazing sea change in the space of
about three or four weeks, hasn't it. So that's good.
That's good, And people are a loving Wallace Stiti. You know,
there's a couple of names that have sort of popped
out of a hat and you know, so that you know,
and we like we like that, you know. I remember
the late se only Lowaki Tape putting the blues to
the sword when he played for the Chiefs. I reckon
(05:38):
we might see a bit of that from Satiti tonight.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Not if is going to have his way. And the
reason the Chiefs are so tough, Clay Wilson is they're
made a spare of V eight parts. That's That's what
the Hamiltonians are like, mate.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
That's where only you could get a race car part
into a rugby.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Ma tuddled together with bits ten and some cylinders. The
Williamson situation this week dominated the new cycle. Earlier in
the Peace play, a lot of angst around the fact
we've lost him to T twenty, which in essence we're
going to lose our best players to T twenty. That's
the way it rolls. That's the nature of the global structure,
(06:17):
but not really lost the New Zealand cricket. He's still
going to play in a lot of Test cricket. World
Test cricket is still alive and breathing.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Yeah, And the proof will be in the putting in
how this pans out over this contracting period. But came Williamson.
For all he said in New Zealand Cricket. For all
they I've said, it appears that he's still going to
play in the bulk of the games for New Zealand.
He's going to miss well, no games at the moment
while he's away in South Africa from sort of early
January to early February. Perhaps a Test or a Test
(06:46):
against Afghanistan later in the year, but other than that,
he seems to insist that he doesn't think he'll miss
almost any other games. So just the way the contracting
model works that because he was going to be away
for a certain part of it, that they couldn't give
him a central contract, and he seems to think that
there may be the case next year that changes and
he does go back on it. It's a bit like rugby.
We see the sabbaticals a lot of these top players
(07:08):
are given. Now they've given Kine this, I guess afforded
him this leisure because of his status as a as
you know, as a top player, a top player, a
big name in this country and what he's done for
the team. So I think that's that's warranted. And the
reality is financially we can't compete with some of these
big domestic competitions like we can't and rugby. You have
(07:29):
to get a little bit creative. Who knows what happens
with the structure of cricket in general. I think the
wider discussion here right is around windows for cricket, because
these domestic T twenty leagues are popping up everywhere and
have a lot of money behind them, so it's getting
seems to be getting in the way of international cricket.
Do we move to a system like football where we
have dedicated windows. It's not a simple solution and I've
(07:51):
been working on it for a while already and haven't
come up with anything. So I think that'll be the
interesting thing to see where where it perhaps goes in
that space.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Now we're going to do. Hamis McKay has asked the
BCCI what they want to do they will, They will
have the whip over this. But I suppose you have
to at couies to cash. You can't fight against it.
So New Zealand Cricket are being quite sensible around this.
They have to. There's got to be a line in
the scene somewhere. But with a guy like Caane, well, why.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Wouldn't you, Why wouldn't you? You summed it up and
won you know, sextant statement, I mean, why wouldn't you?
And it's kind of almost a nothing story. I guess
the story for me is how much money do New
Zealand Cricket leaving the kid he to pay, pay him
when he when he is available and for that test
cricket and what is it free up for somebody else
(08:40):
you can now go on to a full time roster.
So yeah, look, look I think it's a win win
in every direction. And you'll never question what he wants
to play for New Zealand. Of course he does, and
he's kind of hurn't the right, hasn't he to have
a bit of choice in this? So I think, you know,
sanity has prevailed on all levels and we'll still enjoy
(09:01):
him gracefully, you know. On the certainly in the test arena.
So yeah, no, no, you know it's the right outcome.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You make a great point that, Hamish MacKaye. But more
money freed up for the next big thing to come
rolling on through. Good point. Well mate, it's called it
to nine that this is the Allsport Breakfast on that
News Talks AIRB All Star Panel with Hamish McKay and
Clay Wilson. Still no change in the football Netherlands France.
(09:30):
Eighty six minutes and forty seconds, getting close, getting close
to more time staple to the end. This is News
Talks THEREB twelve minutes to nine News Talks AIRB on
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Clay Wilson, who's absolutely glued to the football. Only a
minute of regulation time left, still zip zip between the
(09:55):
Netherlands and France. Hamish McKay, let's still carry on talking
about football. What does restorative process mean to you when
it comes to yitka clink of it?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Well, I kind of always think of I can't think
of restorative justice whenever I think of that restorative process. Look,
I really have no idea. I kind of feel like
if you've if you've got to this situation in terms
of player coach relations and the whole culture of the team,
you're dead in the water, aren't you. And I I
(10:27):
just don't you know, I don't see if there's much
coming back from this. It almost feels like we have Look,
it's too much of a hassle to go and change
things in terms of a permanent coach kind of appointment.
But you've heard of things in the past. Now now,
Crusaders fans will probably want to shoot me for this,
But there was no question there was a restorative process
(10:51):
around McCaw carter and Dean's and those two might have
been wearing a blue jersey and Sir John Graham, the
late Sir John Graham, hadn't stepped in at the beck
and call of New Zealand Rugby. So we've seen it
in plenty of a situation where player coach relations have
been a bit stretched. And yeah, so look, look, let's
hope this is the outcome from this process. But I
(11:16):
always feel that if it's got to the stage, it's
probably gone.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Probably Clay, we all get upset in the studio around
the scene in lack of transparency with New Zealand football,
what they do and don't say, and how it suits them.
Is it any of our business how they run their business?
Does anyone really actually care? Do we just want to
watch them play football?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Does?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Does it matter?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Well?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I think the issue here is that the football ferns
have been struggling on the field.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's generous when you think that there's.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Something off the field that may have been impacting those
on field performances, then it becomes relevant, right.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Especially ahead of an Olympic games.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Right, And that's the big thing here for the football
ferns is that not only have the performance has been
perhaps lacking in the last well, you know, you even
go back to the after that first game at the
World Cup, things haven't have been a bit up and down.
They're going into an Olympic games and there's still clearly
some things going on in the camp between coaches, the
coach the players there that the harmony within the camp
(12:18):
is not quite right.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's a good term harmony. The question is is why
is this only being addressed now at this stage, just
before a World Cup. Surely this is not just suddenly
popped up at it. No, this must have been bubbling
under for a long long time or am I just
reading too much Turnto that Well, it sounds like.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
There was an incident in Spain recently that sparked this
particular well her being stood down, and if anything was
going on before that, we don't know, but I guess
it could have been. Given what's happened, you know, I
guess we want to know, you know, curiosity means you
want to know what actually happened, and New Zealand Football
is saying it's a you know, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
An employer employment.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, so there's confidentiality, which I guess is fine, but
also I'm sure that in certain situations when it's Boots
some of those details would come out, so that they're
not really saying much other than other than she's back
in the team. And we've found out via a media
report this week that this restorative process is going on
to try and get things right. But it is, like
(13:20):
you say, the biggest thing is there's Olympic Games coming up,
and it's a worry and a long term contract through
to twenty twenty seven, to the World Cup in twenty
twenty seven, So it's so I mean you look at
that and you say, hmm, there's got to be some
maybe some decisions made depending on how things go at
the Olympic Games.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
So long, the short of was, yes, we do care,
Hamish McCall. We're going to finish with you by you
telling us what the score is going to be this evening.
And with the Warriors too, are they going to better
turn this around and get on back after that? I'd
say disaster against the Storm, but it's pretty underwhelming.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
It was underwhelming against the Storm, and I kind of
think that we I go back to that moment in
commentary when when the Baby Wars were out there and winning,
and the point was made that half the salary cap
was setting up in watching the game injured, and I
kind of felt like there was a couple of players
(14:19):
who were close to sort of closing in on that
passenger status and that we need to get a few
more of the young guns out there for the Warriors.
As for Eden Park, I'd love to see the Blues one.
I'd love to seize to too, And you know, particularly him,
he's critical for me, but for the likes of Bryce
(14:42):
Hem if he you know what a crag story is,
if he happens to get on the park. But the Chiefs.
You know, they are steeling. And if you're going to
use a sort of a motor sport analogy for you, dars,
the kind of remind me of a loll of T
three thirty two. You know, Formula five thousands. They'll just
keep banging away, They'll just keep banging away.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Can you come back anytime you want to talk about
those five thousands? They are essential cars and really fast score.
What's happeneding? Clay blues by five? Look at that simple
as it is, six minutes to nine. Thank you very much,
Ames Mackay, Thank you, Clay Wilson, you know the carriage
(15:26):
talking about the five thousands.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
My memory doesn't go back that epic.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
The All Star panel is all look Clay Wilson again,
surprise surprise. Are you staring at the television and looking
at this free kick from the Dutch twenty five meters
out from goal? You just keep an eye on that
while we get our other All Star panels on the line. Hey,
miss Macai, Hello friend.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
How are you? Dar's I'm absolutely crackingly fit on down
in the manner with two you know, it's a negative temperature,
the frosts on the Groundlock to watch some Saturday morning
forty oh no, wear a coat and some decent socks.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I think you'll be fine, you'll work through it, I'm sure. Right.
Let's look at the big sports stories are the week
and we'll start off with you the Chiefs, Blue Finals Amos,
the big game tonight. The general consensuency is no one
knows what on earth's going to go on come finals time.
I think the Blues have got the upper hand, but
the Chiefs, right, I think the less pressure is on
(01:09):
the Chiefs to actually get this done, which dees. To me,
they might actually be a roll over the top of
this is tight, mate.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Look I tell you what. I did a bit of
a straw pole and a function of that last night,
and a lot of people are backing the Chiefs for
that sort of they've got that hard nose kind of
top two inches. A lot of people also want the
Blues to win because they just think, you know, they're
Joe and they like the style of putty that playing.
But this is a fifty to fifty I don't think
I would have thought the Chiefs want to spent most
(01:36):
of the week getting the two dollars eighty that they
were paying.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
What do you reck and Clay, It is really hard
to pick. You could argue each way, I think reasonably convincingly.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, exactly like Amis said, fifty to fifty game, and
I think that's been the you know, that's been the
way going into the quarter finals. You looked at the Blues,
the Chiefs and the Hurricanes and you said, toss a
coin on the day, whoever performs is probably going to
win the respective matchup. And I think this is exactly
the same. I suppose Blues have home advantage, you give
(02:07):
them the slight advantage in that, but then the Hurricane.
The Chiefs went down to Wellington last week and beat
the Hurricanes down there, so know how to go away
and win. So it's really performs who performs on the night.
I don't have a horse in the race. I'm not
really worried. I hope it's just a great game that's
fitting of what's been a pretty good competition this year.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Ye the referee doesn't get in the way and talking
about being a home game, rumor has it that half
the crowd are actually coming up from Hamilton anyways, so
it could for all intents and purposes, actually Chiefs and
the cow cowbells on State Highway one. Yeah, don't get
on the motorway south of Auckland. Pretty much from now,
I think there's the best idea there. The sold out
(02:46):
nature of this clay, this is big. It's really gained
a whole lot of attraction over recent times, primarily because
Blues are there. It's about time. But what does this
say about the re engagement of the New Zealand public
with rugby union.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Well, it's a positive sign first and foremost after last
week because I have to say the crowd for the
Brumby semi final last week in Auckland wasn't flash.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You can't roster a game on a Friday night in
Auckland City. That's just minded.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Stupidity as a balance sake. But yes, that that's those
factors and the terrible Auckland where it didn't help. But
otherwise I think the interest has been at a much
higher level. You're right, and to have it sold out
so quickly as well earlier in the week is great.
You know, it takes you back to the healthyon days
of this competition, doesn't it to New Zealand teams in
New Zealand Derby Eden Park, you know, the sort of
(03:38):
the spiritual home of rugby and New Zealand or for
the All Blacks at least anyway, so really looking forward
to it.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Hamous full house. We've got to enjoy that. Does that
lean toward the Blues in your mind or the weight
of expectation crush them?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah? I think that's the top two inches scenario for them,
isn't it. I mean, if the if the hostins Tutos
of this world and can bring their a game, and
we've seen it on many occasions this season, he's really
responded well to that dumping last year and it'll be
up to the fast season co you know these guys.
I'm pleased that Patrick Typoloto's got over his injury pretty quickly.
(04:20):
I still believe that the Chiefs have a steely resolve
across you know, I don't know what it is and
their makeup, but it's pretty amazing. So yeah, look, I
think that the home advantage is not there because you say,
you know, half the tron and the white out, I'll
be making their way up up the line to have
a sold out game though that you know, was close
(04:41):
to a sold out game. That's what we're told. You
remember those heady early days, so that this could be,
you know, a magnificent shot in the arm for Rugby
because as you know, you know, it's been a bit
of a struggle. But we're two from here. But let's
just enjoy tonight for the occasion that it is anyway.
So yeah, what a thought.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Home is that that Rugby Union went out playing the
Warriors and over a week because that's it happens, people, mate,
They're playing away granted and this is a home final,
but all the energy has been with the Wars not
this week. It's all been about rugby union. It is
old school.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, that's right. Amazing sea change in the space of
about three or four weeks, hasn't it. So that's good.
That's good, And people are a loving Wallace Stiti. You know,
there's a couple of names that have sort of popped
out of a hat and you know, so that you know,
and we like we like that, you know. I remember
the late se only Lowaki Tape putting the blues to
the sword when he played for the Chiefs. I reckon
(05:38):
we might see a bit of that from Satiti tonight.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Not if is going to have his way. And the
reason the Chiefs are so tough, Clay Wilson is they're
made a spare of V eight parts. That's That's what
the Hamiltonians are like, mate.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
That's where only you could get a race car part
into a rugby.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Ma tuddled together with bits ten and some cylinders. The
Williamson situation this week dominated the new cycle. Earlier in
the Peace play, a lot of angst around the fact
we've lost him to T twenty, which in essence we're
going to lose our best players to T twenty. That's
the way it rolls. That's the nature of the global structure,
(06:17):
but not really lost the New Zealand cricket. He's still
going to play in a lot of Test cricket. World
Test cricket is still alive and breathing.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Yeah, And the proof will be in the putting in
how this pans out over this contracting period. But came Williamson.
For all he said in New Zealand Cricket. For all
they I've said, it appears that he's still going to
play in the bulk of the games for New Zealand.
He's going to miss well, no games at the moment
while he's away in South Africa from sort of early
January to early February. Perhaps a Test or a Test
(06:46):
against Afghanistan later in the year, but other than that,
he seems to insist that he doesn't think he'll miss
almost any other games. So just the way the contracting
model works that because he was going to be away
for a certain part of it, that they couldn't give
him a central contract, and he seems to think that
there may be the case next year that changes and
he does go back on it. It's a bit like rugby.
We see the sabbaticals a lot of these top players
(07:08):
are given. Now they've given Kine this, I guess afforded
him this leisure because of his status as a as
you know, as a top player, a top player, a
big name in this country and what he's done for
the team. So I think that's that's warranted. And the
reality is financially we can't compete with some of these
big domestic competitions like we can't and rugby. You have
(07:29):
to get a little bit creative. Who knows what happens
with the structure of cricket in general. I think the
wider discussion here right is around windows for cricket, because
these domestic T twenty leagues are popping up everywhere and
have a lot of money behind them, so it's getting
seems to be getting in the way of international cricket.
Do we move to a system like football where we
have dedicated windows. It's not a simple solution and I've
(07:51):
been working on it for a while already and haven't
come up with anything. So I think that'll be the
interesting thing to see where where it perhaps goes in
that space.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Now we're going to do. Hamis McKay has asked the
BCCI what they want to do they will, They will
have the whip over this. But I suppose you have
to at couies to cash. You can't fight against it.
So New Zealand Cricket are being quite sensible around this.
They have to. There's got to be a line in
the scene somewhere. But with a guy like Caane, well, why.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Wouldn't you, Why wouldn't you? You summed it up and
won you know, sextant statement, I mean, why wouldn't you?
And it's kind of almost a nothing story. I guess
the story for me is how much money do New
Zealand Cricket leaving the kid he to pay, pay him
when he when he is available and for that test
cricket and what is it free up for somebody else
(08:40):
you can now go on to a full time roster.
So yeah, look, look I think it's a win win
in every direction. And you'll never question what he wants
to play for New Zealand. Of course he does, and
he's kind of hurn't the right, hasn't he to have
a bit of choice in this? So I think, you know,
sanity has prevailed on all levels and we'll still enjoy
(09:01):
him gracefully, you know. On the certainly in the test arena.
So yeah, no, no, you know it's the right outcome.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You make a great point that, Hamish MacKaye. But more
money freed up for the next big thing to come
rolling on through. Good point. Well mate, it's called it
to nine that this is the Allsport Breakfast on that
News Talks AIRB All Star Panel with Hamish McKay and
Clay Wilson. Still no change in the football Netherlands France.
(09:30):
Eighty six minutes and forty seconds, getting close, getting close
to more time staple to the end. This is News
Talks THEREB twelve minutes to nine News Talks AIRB on
the All Sport Breakfast All Star Panel, Hams MacKaye and
Clay Wilson, who's absolutely glued to the football. Only a
minute of regulation time left, still zip zip between the
(09:55):
Netherlands and France. Hamish McKay, let's still carry on talking
about football. What does restorative process mean to you when
it comes to yitka clink of it?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Well, I kind of always think of I can't think
of restorative justice whenever I think of that restorative process. Look,
I really have no idea. I kind of feel like
if you've if you've got to this situation in terms
of player coach relations and the whole culture of the team,
you're dead in the water, aren't you. And I I
(10:27):
just don't you know, I don't see if there's much
coming back from this. It almost feels like we have Look,
it's too much of a hassle to go and change
things in terms of a permanent coach kind of appointment.
But you've heard of things in the past. Now now,
Crusaders fans will probably want to shoot me for this,
But there was no question there was a restorative process
(10:51):
around McCaw carter and Dean's and those two might have
been wearing a blue jersey and Sir John Graham, the
late Sir John Graham, hadn't stepped in at the beck
and call of New Zealand Rugby. So we've seen it
in plenty of a situation where player coach relations have
been a bit stretched. And yeah, so look, look, let's
hope this is the outcome from this process. But I
(11:16):
always feel that if it's got to the stage, it's
probably gone.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Probably Clay, we all get upset in the studio around
the scene in lack of transparency with New Zealand football,
what they do and don't say, and how it suits them.
Is it any of our business how they run their business?
Does anyone really actually care? Do we just want to
watch them play football?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Does?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Does it matter?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Well?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I think the issue here is that the football ferns
have been struggling on the field.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's generous when you think that there's.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Something off the field that may have been impacting those
on field performances, then it becomes relevant, right.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Especially ahead of an Olympic games.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Right, And that's the big thing here for the football
ferns is that not only have the performance has been
perhaps lacking in the last well, you know, you even
go back to the after that first game at the
World Cup, things haven't have been a bit up and down.
They're going into an Olympic games and there's still clearly
some things going on in the camp between coaches, the
coach the players there that the harmony within the camp
(12:18):
is not quite right.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's a good term harmony. The question is is why
is this only being addressed now at this stage, just
before a World Cup. Surely this is not just suddenly
popped up at it. No, this must have been bubbling
under for a long long time or am I just
reading too much Turnto that Well, it sounds like.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
There was an incident in Spain recently that sparked this
particular well her being stood down, and if anything was
going on before that, we don't know, but I guess
it could have been. Given what's happened, you know, I
guess we want to know, you know, curiosity means you
want to know what actually happened, and New Zealand Football
is saying it's a you know, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
An employer employment.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, so there's confidentiality, which I guess is fine, but
also I'm sure that in certain situations when it's Boots
some of those details would come out, so that they're
not really saying much other than other than she's back
in the team. And we've found out via a media
report this week that this restorative process is going on
to try and get things right. But it is, like
(13:20):
you say, the biggest thing is there's Olympic Games coming up,
and it's a worry and a long term contract through
to twenty twenty seven, to the World Cup in twenty
twenty seven, So it's so I mean you look at
that and you say, hmm, there's got to be some
maybe some decisions made depending on how things go at
the Olympic Games.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
So long, the short of was, yes, we do care,
Hamish McCall. We're going to finish with you by you
telling us what the score is going to be this evening.
And with the Warriors too, are they going to better
turn this around and get on back after that? I'd
say disaster against the Storm, but it's pretty underwhelming.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
It was underwhelming against the Storm, and I kind of
think that we I go back to that moment in
commentary when when the Baby Wars were out there and winning,
and the point was made that half the salary cap
was setting up in watching the game injured, and I
kind of felt like there was a couple of players
(14:19):
who were close to sort of closing in on that
passenger status and that we need to get a few
more of the young guns out there for the Warriors.
As for Eden Park, I'd love to see the Blues one.
I'd love to seize to too, And you know, particularly him,
he's critical for me, but for the likes of Bryce
(14:42):
Hem if he you know what a crag story is,
if he happens to get on the park. But the Chiefs.
You know, they are steeling. And if you're going to
use a sort of a motor sport analogy for you, dars,
the kind of remind me of a loll of T
three thirty two. You know, Formula five thousands. They'll just
keep banging away, They'll just keep banging away.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Can you come back anytime you want to talk about
those five thousands? They are essential cars and really fast score.
What's happeneding? Clay blues by five? Look at that simple
as it is, six minutes to nine. Thank you very much,
Ames Mackay, Thank you, Clay Wilson, you know the carriage
(15:26):
talking about the five thousands.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
My memory doesn't go back that epic.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
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