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May 16, 2025 12 mins

This week’s panel features Rugby Writer Jamie Wall and Gold Sport Rugby Commentator Paul Allison. On the agenda this weekend: 

  • Team New Zealand announces Naples, Italy, will host 38th edition in 2027  
  • Blues vs Moana Pasifika - grandstand sell out! 
  • Can Auckland FC get the job done?  

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldegrave from News Talk SEDB All Sport Breakfast, All Star Pedal.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Indeed it is. And who do we have for you?
We've got Jamie war Mighty.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
And my friend morning Darcy. How are you mate?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm very well, probably not as good as Paul Allison
because he's the most aboulant character I know in sport.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
Paul ARSI, you know, I'm good. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
That's what I like to hear. We'll kick off with you.
Jamie wall I don't believe Harry Plumer basically disagree with me,
which is not unusual to disagree with me, but not
on air, not from an athlete. But he he doesn't
think it's a surprise that Myana Pacificker have sold out
the Grand Standard Albany for this, this Crosstown Derby. He said, no,
they're building. This is always going to happen. But it's

(00:54):
still stunning, though, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
It is stunning. But I'm I'm very much in an
agreement that I'm not surprised either I've been with Milana
or season. Actually I've you know, was really interested in
the way it would go up at North Harbor because
a lot of people had some real skepticism over this move,
and I don't think it's probably where they one hundred

(01:19):
percent still want to be. Like if finally, at some
point they decide to build some sort of appropriate stadium
in Auckland on the city side of the bridge, that's
probably where they want to be. But they're making the
most out of what they've got.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
And I think, sorry Jamie, say that again, if they
decide to build an appropriate stadium on the side of
the bridge.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, so maybe even fifty years or one hundred years,
they would have won about ten titles, so who knows,
they might.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
And then they can go there.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
I'm not surprised that the way that they've gone this year.
Obviously having Ardie Savia there has helped out immensely. Had
a word to him during the week, actually, and it's
going to be quite interesting to see what he does
next year, because everyone kind of presumed that he's going
to hit off on another sabbatical. But the man's clear
enjoying himself. He's done more media than we've seen in
his entire career, and he's and he just seems to

(02:14):
be really locked in on what they're trying to achieve,
So I don't you know, I think he'll probably go
because he's just going to get offered just an absolute
truckload of cash to go over there. But then again,
we all thought he'd be playing for the Hurricanes this
year and he's at Mawana Pacifica, the last team we
thought he'd be at. So yeah, it's been a great
no matter what happens from here on out, Mine in
Pacifica have been the story of the Super Oku season.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Paul, are you going to climb in and agree, are
you going to hang up or are you going to
offer a different opinion.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
It's been an outstanding season for my Ona Pacifica, no.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Doubt about that.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
They've had the what have they had five wins so
far and they've only had seven wins in their previous
three seasons, No doubt about that. I agree with Jamie
around the Ardie Savier influence, he's been absolutely magnificent. He
was almost the one man wrecking machine when they beat
the Heartlanders for the very first time a couple of
weeks ago down in Full Sight Bar Stadium, and they
have had a really good season. I will be a

(03:06):
litmus test for them though, because this is a this
is the sort of cross town rivalry to some degree,
and the fact that both teams are precariously placed on
that edge of the top six, with the Blue sitting
in sixth and the Minor Pacificate in seventh, just three
competition points separating them, and both teams coming in with
a couple of wins in the last couple of games.
But you know, they can. They and the fact that

(03:28):
they filled the stadium is great, and the fact that
they've got a stadium is really good. I think there's
still some financial challenges around them, but this has been
a season to remember. But they're not finished yet. They've
still got this game and then they've got the Chiefs
and the Hurricane. So if they can make the top six,
that's a real step up for them, and Ardie av
has been a huge part of that. But if they

(03:49):
get hammered by the Blues today and then just fade
away in the last couple and they get overtaken by
a couple of other teams and finished eighth or ninth, yeah,
it'll still be a good season for them, and compared
to where they've been in the past. But today is
a really critical one for them. The fact that they've
got what does North have a hold about forty ten thousand,
is it?

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Jamie?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, about right. Ever since they dug out of but
one side of the stand on the on the other
side there that about about fourteen or fifteen.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yea, yeah, And I mean down in the Deep South
we've been getting those sort of numbers at Super Rugby
games right throughout the season and it hasn't been a
bumper season for the Heartlanders. So I would have expected
them to fill this match and this game today and
if they hadn't have done that, it wouldn't have been
a success. So yeah, I think this just shows that
they have got a bit of a growing fan base
and deservedly so for the way they've gone the season.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
It's the all star panel of believers and you've got
to like it. Jamie Ware, Paul Allison and Jamie This
kind of like dovetails nicely into AUCKLANDFC talking about if
Mowana fayed it won't be a successful season. What about
Auckland FC. They've got League one of two for the
semi final, then they've got a final. If they can't

(04:57):
get the chocolates from now, what kind of Smudge, is
that on what they've done so far, I don't.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
I mean, it's a it's a hard one because you're
so close now that you'd have to say that not
winning it from here would be a real disappointment. But
then at the same time, for a team in their
first season to have achieved what they have, like they've
clearly just exceeded all expectations no matter what happens from
here on out. But yeah, because they basically kind of

(05:25):
feel like they've got one hand on the trophy already,
it would be really disappointing for them to lose the stage,
kind of like what the Phoenix did last year. It
was about this, Yeah, it was this time last year.
I was down here Willington watching a full sky Stadium
crowd cheering on the Phoenix and they lost and it
did really feel like a real let down at the time.

(05:48):
So you know, hopefully, I feel like tonight's going to
be a really cagy cagy match. I can see it
ending the law and that everything's going to be on
for the return match next weekend at Mount Smart which
is going to be a massive occasion. But I think
just the fact that that AUCKLANDFC have managed to draw
the crowds that they have been able to get the
amount of interest that they have after you know, the

(06:09):
two previous editions of professional football in Auckland being you know,
the complete opposite. Really, you know, you can you can
hand it them, to hand them a massive pass mark already,
no matter what happens on the scoreesheet.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
I think, so, Paul, does this make me a really
nasty man if I suggest, like I've said editorially today,
that if they don't get it done now, the season
is a failure. Because I think that's how they're thinking
right that as professional football is that they're not thinking
like that now. And this is the attitude they've taken
right the way through the year. It's a winning mentality.
It's an aggressive mentality. It's a front up mentality. They

(06:49):
can't lose. They've got to keep going this way, and
that surely the way they're thinking.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
That's the attitude they'll be taking into this weekend's first
league of the two. But in saying that, you look
back through the history books. This is the twentieth season
that the A League has been in existence, and out
of those nineteen in previous seasons, only eleven times has
the team that won the premiership and the championship double,

(07:13):
and so it doesn't always translate that the leading team
at the end of the round robin section wins the
overall championship title for that season. So yeah, look, they've
played exceptionally well. They've only lost three games out of
the twenty six. Tonight is a really important one nine
point thirty over in Melbourne. It's interesting that Melbourne's got
three teams in the top four. Probably shows how much

(07:36):
of a hot bed day are for football strength in Australia.
But they have had a magnificent season. Now you're going
to say, don't get off topic, Allison, because I shouldn't
say this, But if they go on and win, are
they then a major contender for the Halbergs for what
they've done this season the first time in the A League,
the fact that they've won. If they can get the
premiership championship double, it's going to be hard to beat,

(07:57):
doesn't it, Because it's a bit of a fairy tale
story and it wouldn't it be a great way for
them to finish the next three or four weeks when
they have that, if they can either have a draw
to when next week and then go on in the
Grand Final. That would be an outstanding achievement for them.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
It would be Paul's moll problem. Though it's not an
Olympic sport. You know what the hellbergs thing of things
like this? Eight forty five, This says news doorg's airb
All Star Panel Paul Allison, Jamie Wall. Up shortly we'll
talk about the America's Cup, which was New Zealand's Cup,
so now it's Ellis Cup forty seven. Jamie Wall and

(08:33):
Paul Allison here on the All Star Panel on the
All Sport to breakfast to Jamie, the America's Cup is
going to be sailed for and defended by New Zealand
and Italy. I mean, no surprise, it's the Northern Hemisphere.
We all know that. Is this a good thing? You
happy enough with this? Do you think there actually is
going to be a defense? Is anyone going to come?

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I mean, I'm pretty ambivalent on this because it wasn't there.
It was going to be somewhere else that wasn't here,
and and you know it's going to be somewhere in Europe.
I will I will say one thing at least, it's
it's kind of an appropriate venue considering Italy's history in
the America's Cup, like lunarosso were you know, syndicate that

(09:14):
we're all kind of familiar with. So at least there's
something like that that they haven't taken it to Saudi
Arabia or whatever.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
That Well, I was going to say that is the
saving grace, it's not there. That's good to me.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
It's a good yeah, So I mean, at least it's
in a place where it kind of fits. But I mean,
I'm just you know, just reading Chris Reeve's done really
good job reporting on this, you know, Grant Dalton saying
there is a raw spirit and absolute pride in Italy
that seems so appropriate to have the next America's Cup here,

(09:45):
and that's where it ends. And he doesn't really go
into how much money, but they've paid for it because
really though, that's that's what That's what it comes down to.
So I guess again, I'm pretty ambivalent on the sort
of thing it's going to be on in the middle
of the night, so I'm probably not going to watch it.
It's not something that I'll work on either, And to
be honest, it's not really something that I care about.

(10:05):
But for the people that do. I mean, if you're
going to go, if you are going to go and
watch it like it's maple seems like in most place,
So good luck.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
To you, Paul. Wouldn't it be nice if they just
came out and see, look's a great place. It's got
great history. But it's worth a packet to us, and
we need the money. I mean, no one, no one
is going to say, oh, oh, you've sold your soul
because we know they have right, so just tell.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Us it's you.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
I think. I think the last America's Cup in Barcelona
last year, the estimated economic impact was one billion dollars,
and so you know that it's got some attraction if
you can hold it. Yes, there's been a lot of
private and public money go into this bid, which they
actually I understand, beat Athens and Greece for the hosting
rights for it, and of course Luna Rossa who has

(10:48):
been there, and I think Pirelli put in some some
enormous amount of money European dollars to.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
That.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
I think it was what did they put in sixty
five million euro over four years from twenty and eighteen,
and they were the beaten finalist of ever won it before.
But there's been a globe trotting venue anyhow. I mean
it was Valencia and twenty ten San Francisco and two
thirteen Bermuda and two seventeen Auckland and twenty twenty one Barcelona,
in twenty four Naples and twenty twenty seven, so they've

(11:20):
had six different venues since twenty and ten. In the
last six times has been held no real surprise for me.
They're also holding the Junior or the Youth and the
Women's America's Cup at the same time. So yeah, I
actually think it's probably not a bad decision. Money would
have driven it, no doubt about that. But it's a
globe trotting event now, and if Naples have got a
good history we're sailing, which reportedly they have good on them,

(11:42):
I don't have a problem with it.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
There you go. I'm interested to see the future because
I think the biggest problem the America's Cup have got
right now is sole GP that's standing there. It's clear
in prison danger and they're doing something that the America's
Cup can't do, and that is having regular and meaningful regattas,
and that's what they need. Russell Coots has got it right,
so it's up to you now, guys, I'll hold my

(12:06):
beer and watch that's.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
I don't think they'll go to Stadia Rabe. This is
pretty hard to sail on SAand but no, they've got
water thear as well.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Well, I hold on switzerland' whonn't they landlocked anyway? Enough
for we're gonna go. Hey, Paul Allison and Jamie Wall,
the pleasure was ours. Thanks very much for your time.
Have wonderful weekends.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
You too, Dusty jus Voice.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
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