This week’s panel features Rugby Writer Jamie Wall and Newstalk ZB Sports Journalist Dean McLachlan. On the agenda this weekend:
- Are Moana Pasifika in big trouble?
- Violence and abuse on the sidelines
- Kai Kara-France, our next superstar?
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldgrave from News Talks B All Sport Breakfast, All Star
Panel and.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
The All Star Panel consists of team of Droplane for
the first time and the All Star panel you Star
World and one of the old score. One of the
dried on representatives is that rude. It's been around. We
love them good a Jamie wallerhow is.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It my friend?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yeah, Wanning dance morning, Dane.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
You sound very slope to be here. That's great.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
He's hit the wall.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, yeah, hit the wall, at the ground, running with
the flame at your Feet's right, So let's get under way.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's been a crazy old week of not necessarily sports
stories on the part, but off off the part. Jamie,
this morning a pacifica situation, hardly ideal. It's been their
biggest year. They've been the story of the year, even
though I'm quite impressed by the Crusaders, and it's come
to this kind of predictable kind of said, can.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
They get out of this?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Yeah? About as predictable as you bring up the Crusaders
within about three seconds of this starting.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And that's all we've got time for. Ani was.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
No but seriously, Yeah, you're right, it is said some
really really good reporting there during the week boy Lem
Napier and Kate mc namara on this one. And I
think that it's unfortunately something that we've kind of known
about for a while like under wraps because the of
course Milana's financial situation just even from before this year
(01:43):
has been something that has been the only question because
they're not part of the super rugby stable that New
Zealand Rugby holds. They sort of out on their own
doing your own things, and so where that money is
coming from and an economy that's tight enough as it
is for the teams that are tepping into into rog
(02:04):
pitch funding normally, like just exactly where it was coming from,
and so the Pacific Media, Pacific Pacific a Medical Association
or was something that was just a bit too confusing
to be not questioned in the first place. And like,
to be honest, it's just it's just a bit sad
(02:28):
just given how good Moana were on the field, Like
had they had another rubbish season, an Artie hadn't played
or anything like that, then we'd be sort of saying, oh,
let's just pull the pun on this whole thing. Now.
But because they've actually shown what they can potentially achieve,
specifically by beating their crosstown rollers and establishing what should
(02:49):
be like a really good rivalry, we're now left going, well,
we do want them to survive because they are good
for the competition, but exactly how how's that going to happen?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's going to be a world rugby, doesn't it. Are
they the ones?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I mean New Zealand they've got skin in this game,
and so Australia because it is their competition, Super Rugby Pacific. Well,
when you look at survival and the strength of the
island game, the strength of the island game, this is
all up. One's going to talk Dina McLaughlin about the
strength of the game of the islands. This is world
rugby's responsibility because they spend all their time basically the
(03:25):
northern hemosphere stealing all their best players, and pacifica rugby
is what we want to see. It's big, fast men
climbing all over each other.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's rugby. They need to be responsible, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
But when you're developing some and tongu and players, is
it really ethical to do it here in Auckland?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Why they've got to do it somewhere. They can't do
it in tom World someone, there's no one over there.
It's a moment World Rugby. I have got to do
this is my opinion anyway, sorry yours?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Well, World Rugby looks like they're going to pull back
on the one point seven million a year that they
give to Mona Pacifica to develop those some and and
tongue players. Check that on top of the five hundred
k that Sky Sport are probably going to pull for
not renewing their jersey sponsorship. Then you look at the
Pacifica Medical Association, who have been checking in about three
(04:15):
quarters of a million dollars a year, So that's practically
three million dollars off the table before they even head
into next season. And given they are a valuable commodity,
you think that they might be able to recoup some
of them. But who is going to step up and
sponsor them after this controversy.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And how much Jamie do you think it cost them
to get Ardie Savair on board?
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Well, especially considering they're only getting six to six cents
out of every dollar that they've spent on him because
he's not going to be there next year like that
That's another thing that was always again, was always going
to happen. I feel like he's obviously he couldn't have
possibly done more than he did for that team this year.
But the problem now is now that he's gone, how
(04:59):
do they fill that gap? Not just from a playing
point of view, but just from a personality point of
view as well. The reason we were trudging up to
North Harvest every week to do media was because of him.
It's not easy to replace someone like that. But I
know they've got n Ami La Muppy coming on board,
but like, let's face it, he's not the same star
(05:21):
quality as Ali Savias.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
So my very few players are Jane.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Especially just marketing wise, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
They're not. And what I'm sad about.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
We're Alto on the show yesterday talking about this is
the fan base and finally it's got some momentum findings.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
But people turning up to North Harbor Stadium of all
places to.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Watch rugby, they're getting a fan and suddenly that could
be whipped away. And that's sad for the pacifica community
because Auckland is a big Pacific city team.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
They are in Savia trouble. When you think that fifteen
of their players have been released from the last season.
It's hard to build some cohesion when you're going through
rosters like that. Yeah, we all love them. They're our
second favorite team generally, and they are and they've got trouble.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They and I when we've gone through when there's been
a forensic accountant, and then to find out where the
money's been shuffled, how it's been shuffled, who's in a
conflict of interest situation.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
We know a little more, but I choose to leave
that there.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Now because I want to talk more rugby up after this,
and we'll touch on with the Jamie Wall and Dean McLaughlin,
Hottofernure Carpandy Rugby and what they've done, how they've led,
the way they're holding the zell in Rugby's hands and.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Go it's not that hard, guys, come on with this.
We can do it. Why not you?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
This is News Talks eb happened, It's out of Marcure,
It's thirteen Minutester nine will star panel Dean McLaughlin, hot
Afnur Carpety Rugby. Your initial thoughts around what they done.
They made a promise and they followed through with it.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Yeah, they put on their big boy pants and made
a very clear decision to cancel all represent or Senior
and junior rugby.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
They didn't cancel I've got to jump. They postponed it.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yeah, but they put a marker in the sand. It's
one of those interesting ones. There's still some conjecture about
what actually happened, but at least they have made a stand.
And I go back to my experiences with friends and
whatnot who are refereeing, and I think the problem is
a lot more widespread than a lot of the other
(07:45):
unions have come out and see.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
There's a bit of ostriche going on, isn't it. You
get but it doesn't have an here.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
No, No, we've only had one verbal this year, says Canterbury. Well,
I don't know whether that's the case. I think a
lot of it is underreported and it's only the really
tough referees that that's with thick skin that are that
are sort of propping everybody up.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Well, Jamie Wall, you're on the ground. I mean you
play you right there? You know you get it. Is
it as widespread or is it not? I with with
the in the game, is this a real growing problem?
You think? Right? Across the MONTI.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Now, Darcy, this is definitely a case of those in
glasshouses shouldn't be able to throw stones, because I've never
been a favorite player of a referee that's had the
pleasure of controling.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
What about the sideline, the people the spans on the sideline.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
To be honest with you, yes it is. I think
that for people who are involved in grassroots club rugby
and high school rugby as well. The issue is that
I think that people who like normies would probably be
pretty shocked at the sort of behavior and language that
(09:05):
it's you in a heated situation. And I think that
what might be happening here is that we've got a
level of behavior that has become normalized within a club
sport and high school sport that if it actually gets
shown to the wider public, they would be a lot
(09:25):
more shocked than than people who are involved in it.
I'm not saying that's right. I think it definitely. I
fully support what Horrorford and a company have done here
because they warned everyone about and it's it's basically like
a mum or dad telling off their kid, because this
is literally the way that this has to be has
to be doing.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Why are they leading it? This is what gets me
about this.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I mean, when we've got thoughts and prius leaders from
inzet are they trying the best? A tiny union based
out on the then they're the ones who actually made
this call and they've set and it's reverberated throughout the country.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Isn't it the game?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It is their backyard? Like you know they it is
the provincial union's job to control their own their own games.
New Zeon Ruby can't come in and tell a provincial
rugby union do this or do that. They can't. They're
not like the police.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Maybe they should be. It's their game, right.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
There's got to be some personal responsibility taken by people
on the sideline too. Like I used to be a
shaka watching my son's play football, and I got into
the habit where I would think that I was holding
a baby, and so I couldn't yell, I couldn't say
anything sort of untoward and it really worked for me.
(10:40):
I weaned myself off being one of those vitriolic cares.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
It's a good Jamie. You disagree. You don't think he's
in on rugby's ever hand in this at all?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
No, No, I'm not saying that they shouldn't, but I'm asking, like,
what do you really want them to do? Like just
call off all rugby across the country for the weekend.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
We can they look at individual edicts across all provincial unions,
sit with them and go, we need to do this.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Look what half into a company of doing. Now we
want you to do the same thing. We need to
stamp this out, shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
My problem is that send this tiny union is leading
the charge against something that is obviously a problem, and
he's in a Rubia city.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
But that's if I'm playing an Auckland this weekend and
my game is called off because some dickie down and
live in or wherever it was, did something, I'm going
to be pretty annoyed at that because that's got nothing
to do with me.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, I granted, but if you go by union by
union like they do, but they help initiate and establish
this union by union. So if in your district, your area,
it happens, yeah, everon suffer's not globally, but something put
in place, So not globally, not not nasally. If something
is put in place, helping put in place by in
zet are, because I suppose then you go further afield,
(11:46):
you go to football, you go to cricket, you get
to other sports.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
But at least the conversations.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
As overreach are we are we being too dramatic and
when it could just be an isolated incident, like I said,
personal responsibility.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Is it good that the conversation's out there?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
This is the best thing. People are going, Yeah, no,
we don't like this, Let's do something. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
The other interesting thing too is that this could lead
to people calling out bad behavior. But will let escalate
it or de escalate it?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
What do you reckon? Jamie?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
That's a great point being mates. And you also got
to remember that these days everyone's a journalist, everyone's got
a phone in their pocket. And I think what could
be done here, like a really positive thing would be, Hey,
instead of sitting there and just putting up with someone
being a jerk on the sideline and being abusive or worse,
(12:40):
get your phone out, film them, make them famous, send
it off to Indeed, Ruggy or whoever and they'll yull
name and shame.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
I'll sit up the website and get some funding through it.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
And this is why, Jamie, we've solved it, correct.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Mate, that's why we get you on the All Star panel.
Jamie All, thanks very much for your time. You look
after yourself, my friend.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Thank you, mate, and.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
As for you, Dan McGlothlin, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
I'll go and read some sports news.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Good thinking, Pale. You can't go anywhere because you've got
a job to do. Bye.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Hold on, I'll pull those nails out so you escape them.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
For more from the All Sport Breakfast with Darcy Watergrave,
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You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldgrave from News Talks B All Sport Breakfast, All Star
Panel and.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
The All Star Panel consists of team of Droplane for
the first time and the All Star panel you Star
World and one of the old score. One of the
dried on representatives is that rude. It's been around. We
love them good a Jamie wallerhow is.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It my friend?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yeah, Wanning dance morning, Dane.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
You sound very slope to be here. That's great.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
He's hit the wall.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, yeah, hit the wall, at the ground, running with
the flame at your Feet's right, So let's get under way.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's been a crazy old week of not necessarily sports
stories on the part, but off off the part. Jamie,
this morning a pacifica situation, hardly ideal. It's been their
biggest year. They've been the story of the year, even
though I'm quite impressed by the Crusaders, and it's come
to this kind of predictable kind of said, can.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
They get out of this?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Yeah? About as predictable as you bring up the Crusaders
within about three seconds of this starting.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And that's all we've got time for. Ani was.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
No but seriously, Yeah, you're right, it is said some
really really good reporting there during the week boy Lem
Napier and Kate mc namara on this one. And I
think that it's unfortunately something that we've kind of known
about for a while like under wraps because the of
course Milana's financial situation just even from before this year
(01:43):
has been something that has been the only question because
they're not part of the super rugby stable that New
Zealand Rugby holds. They sort of out on their own
doing your own things, and so where that money is
coming from and an economy that's tight enough as it
is for the teams that are tepping into into rog
(02:04):
pitch funding normally, like just exactly where it was coming from,
and so the Pacific Media, Pacific Pacific a Medical Association
or was something that was just a bit too confusing
to be not questioned in the first place. And like,
to be honest, it's just it's just a bit sad
(02:28):
just given how good Moana were on the field, Like
had they had another rubbish season, an Artie hadn't played
or anything like that, then we'd be sort of saying, oh,
let's just pull the pun on this whole thing. Now.
But because they've actually shown what they can potentially achieve,
specifically by beating their crosstown rollers and establishing what should
(02:49):
be like a really good rivalry, we're now left going, well,
we do want them to survive because they are good
for the competition, but exactly how how's that going to happen?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It's going to be a world rugby, doesn't it. Are
they the ones?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I mean New Zealand they've got skin in this game,
and so Australia because it is their competition, Super Rugby Pacific. Well,
when you look at survival and the strength of the
island game, the strength of the island game, this is
all up. One's going to talk Dina McLaughlin about the
strength of the game of the islands. This is world
rugby's responsibility because they spend all their time basically the
(03:25):
northern hemosphere stealing all their best players, and pacifica rugby
is what we want to see. It's big, fast men
climbing all over each other.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's rugby. They need to be responsible, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
But when you're developing some and tongu and players, is
it really ethical to do it here in Auckland?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Why they've got to do it somewhere. They can't do
it in tom World someone, there's no one over there.
It's a moment World Rugby. I have got to do
this is my opinion anyway, sorry yours?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Well, World Rugby looks like they're going to pull back
on the one point seven million a year that they
give to Mona Pacifica to develop those some and and
tongue players. Check that on top of the five hundred
k that Sky Sport are probably going to pull for
not renewing their jersey sponsorship. Then you look at the
Pacifica Medical Association, who have been checking in about three
(04:15):
quarters of a million dollars a year, So that's practically
three million dollars off the table before they even head
into next season. And given they are a valuable commodity,
you think that they might be able to recoup some
of them. But who is going to step up and
sponsor them after this controversy.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And how much Jamie do you think it cost them
to get Ardie Savair on board?
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Well, especially considering they're only getting six to six cents
out of every dollar that they've spent on him because
he's not going to be there next year like that
That's another thing that was always again, was always going
to happen. I feel like he's obviously he couldn't have
possibly done more than he did for that team this year.
But the problem now is now that he's gone, how
(04:59):
do they fill that gap? Not just from a playing
point of view, but just from a personality point of
view as well. The reason we were trudging up to
North Harvest every week to do media was because of him.
It's not easy to replace someone like that. But I
know they've got n Ami La Muppy coming on board,
but like, let's face it, he's not the same star
(05:21):
quality as Ali Savias.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
So my very few players are Jane.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Especially just marketing wise, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
They're not. And what I'm sad about.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
We're Alto on the show yesterday talking about this is
the fan base and finally it's got some momentum findings.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
But people turning up to North Harbor Stadium of all
places to.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Watch rugby, they're getting a fan and suddenly that could
be whipped away. And that's sad for the pacifica community
because Auckland is a big Pacific city team.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
They are in Savia trouble. When you think that fifteen
of their players have been released from the last season.
It's hard to build some cohesion when you're going through
rosters like that. Yeah, we all love them. They're our
second favorite team generally, and they are and they've got trouble.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They and I when we've gone through when there's been
a forensic accountant, and then to find out where the
money's been shuffled, how it's been shuffled, who's in a
conflict of interest situation.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
We know a little more, but I choose to leave
that there.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Now because I want to talk more rugby up after this,
and we'll touch on with the Jamie Wall and Dean McLaughlin,
Hottofernure Carpandy Rugby and what they've done, how they've led,
the way they're holding the zell in Rugby's hands and.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Go it's not that hard, guys, come on with this.
We can do it. Why not you?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
This is News Talks eb happened, It's out of Marcure,
It's thirteen Minutester nine will star panel Dean McLaughlin, hot
Afnur Carpety Rugby. Your initial thoughts around what they done.
They made a promise and they followed through with it.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Yeah, they put on their big boy pants and made
a very clear decision to cancel all represent or Senior
and junior rugby.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
They didn't cancel I've got to jump. They postponed it.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yeah, but they put a marker in the sand. It's
one of those interesting ones. There's still some conjecture about
what actually happened, but at least they have made a stand.
And I go back to my experiences with friends and
whatnot who are refereeing, and I think the problem is
a lot more widespread than a lot of the other
(07:45):
unions have come out and see.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
There's a bit of ostriche going on, isn't it. You
get but it doesn't have an here.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
No, No, we've only had one verbal this year, says Canterbury. Well,
I don't know whether that's the case. I think a
lot of it is underreported and it's only the really
tough referees that that's with thick skin that are that
are sort of propping everybody up.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Well, Jamie Wall, you're on the ground. I mean you
play you right there? You know you get it. Is
it as widespread or is it not? I with with
the in the game, is this a real growing problem?
You think? Right? Across the MONTI.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Now, Darcy, this is definitely a case of those in
glasshouses shouldn't be able to throw stones, because I've never
been a favorite player of a referee that's had the
pleasure of controling.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
What about the sideline, the people the spans on the sideline.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
To be honest with you, yes it is. I think
that for people who are involved in grassroots club rugby
and high school rugby as well. The issue is that
I think that people who like normies would probably be
pretty shocked at the sort of behavior and language that
(09:05):
it's you in a heated situation. And I think that
what might be happening here is that we've got a
level of behavior that has become normalized within a club
sport and high school sport that if it actually gets
shown to the wider public, they would be a lot
(09:25):
more shocked than than people who are involved in it.
I'm not saying that's right. I think it definitely. I
fully support what Horrorford and a company have done here
because they warned everyone about and it's it's basically like
a mum or dad telling off their kid, because this
is literally the way that this has to be has
to be doing.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Why are they leading it? This is what gets me
about this.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I mean, when we've got thoughts and prius leaders from
inzet are they trying the best? A tiny union based
out on the then they're the ones who actually made
this call and they've set and it's reverberated throughout the country.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Isn't it the game?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It is their backyard? Like you know they it is
the provincial union's job to control their own their own games.
New Zeon Ruby can't come in and tell a provincial
rugby union do this or do that. They can't. They're
not like the police.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Maybe they should be. It's their game, right.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
There's got to be some personal responsibility taken by people
on the sideline too. Like I used to be a
shaka watching my son's play football, and I got into
the habit where I would think that I was holding
a baby, and so I couldn't yell, I couldn't say
anything sort of untoward and it really worked for me.
(10:40):
I weaned myself off being one of those vitriolic cares.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
It's a good Jamie. You disagree. You don't think he's
in on rugby's ever hand in this at all?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
No, No, I'm not saying that they shouldn't, but I'm asking, like,
what do you really want them to do? Like just
call off all rugby across the country for the weekend.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
We can they look at individual edicts across all provincial unions,
sit with them and go, we need to do this.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Look what half into a company of doing. Now we
want you to do the same thing. We need to
stamp this out, shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
My problem is that send this tiny union is leading
the charge against something that is obviously a problem, and
he's in a Rubia city.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
But that's if I'm playing an Auckland this weekend and
my game is called off because some dickie down and
live in or wherever it was, did something, I'm going
to be pretty annoyed at that because that's got nothing
to do with me.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, I granted, but if you go by union by
union like they do, but they help initiate and establish
this union by union. So if in your district, your area,
it happens, yeah, everon suffer's not globally, but something put
in place, So not globally, not not nasally. If something
is put in place, helping put in place by in
zet are, because I suppose then you go further afield,
(11:46):
you go to football, you go to cricket, you get
to other sports.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
But at least the conversations.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
As overreach are we are we being too dramatic and
when it could just be an isolated incident, like I said,
personal responsibility.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Is it good that the conversation's out there?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
This is the best thing. People are going, Yeah, no,
we don't like this, Let's do something. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
The other interesting thing too is that this could lead
to people calling out bad behavior. But will let escalate
it or de escalate it?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
What do you reckon? Jamie?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
That's a great point being mates. And you also got
to remember that these days everyone's a journalist, everyone's got
a phone in their pocket. And I think what could
be done here, like a really positive thing would be, Hey,
instead of sitting there and just putting up with someone
being a jerk on the sideline and being abusive or worse,
(12:40):
get your phone out, film them, make them famous, send
it off to Indeed, Ruggy or whoever and they'll yull
name and shame.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
I'll sit up the website and get some funding through it.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
And this is why, Jamie, we've solved it, correct.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Mate, that's why we get you on the All Star panel.
Jamie All, thanks very much for your time. You look
after yourself, my friend.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Thank you, mate, and.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
As for you, Dan McGlothlin, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
I'll go and read some sports news.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Good thinking, Pale. You can't go anywhere because you've got
a job to do. Bye.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Hold on, I'll pull those nails out so you escape them.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
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