The latest edition of 'The All-Star Panel' features NZ Herald Sports Journalist Michael Burgess and Rugby Writer Jamie Wall.
On this weekend's agenda: What's gone wrong with Burling and Dalton? Super Rugby viewership is growing, and are Moana Pasifika now Auckland's favourite team?
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldgrave from News Talk ZEDB All Sport Breakfast All Star Panel.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And we have an all star panel for you. Mister
Michael Burgess, come on down. Good morning day indeed, and
Jamie Wall good morning to you as well.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
What have you got for us morning, Darst Money Burge, Oh,
I've got plenty of mate, got plenty all right.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I will fire away, but I'm going to fire at
Michael Burgess. First, Dalton v. Berling. We heard the Dalton
side of the story, but not the Burling side of
the story. Somewhere in between lives the truth. What's happening there? Michael?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
It's pretty amazing, isn't The Darcis was a story that
kind of came out of the blue, But the fact
that it had taken so long to I guess, get
an agreement together made you think, what is happening here?
I mean a couple of surprising things for me. One
is knowing Peter Burning like I do. He loves the
America's Cup. He's absolutely crazy about the America's Cup and
it's been such a big part of his life. So,
(01:11):
you know, a big decision to step away. But the
other thing is, of course sal GP. You know that
if that SALGIPI wasn't in the picture, I don't think
this would be happening. But he's got SALGP that takes
up a lot of his time. He's just had a child,
so he's a busy guy, and I think that there'd
be two things going on. One that grunt Dalton drives
(01:32):
people pretty hard, so you'd be working pretty hard for him.
But secondly, I get the impression of Peter Biling sometimes
he just wants to drive the boat. You know, in
the America's Cup is such a design driven thing that
he's got to be involved in so much of the
design and the testing for months and months and years
and years on end. Salgp basically can just turn up
(01:53):
and drive the boat more or less. You know, they practice,
of course, but it's because it's a one design scenario.
So I think you put a few of those things
together and you get a picture of what might have
happened here. But as you're indicating dus there's always a
bit more to it. With these statements and these kind
of stories.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well he can do that. That's the thing with Berlin.
He's one of the few sailors out there that works.
As I was talking to Peter Lester yesterday, it's a
great conduit between the sailing and the text, and so
he has to spend a lot of time doing that,
and time is of the essence. And Jamie Wall I'm
absolutely convinced, not that I know any more than any
of you guys too, the most important role that he's
(02:31):
got now is being father to a child, a young child.
And why would you want to be tied up in
so many events you'd rather do? You want to spend
the next couple of years in a warehouse with Grant
Dalton when you could be being a dad, you know,
and you go to the sale GP, which is something
you haven't had success in, and you are the CEO
(02:52):
of the team. I think it's a no brainer.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Well, I think that there's a lot of people who'd
rather be doing anything than stuck in a warehouse with
Grant Dalton. Because it seems like every time we talk
in America's Cup, every time at least I talk to
you about it, his name keeps coming up. And it's
about the relationship that he has with his employees and
also his relationship with the public. And this is another
(03:18):
case and like Mike said, we don't know the full
story about what happened, and we may never know, but
it's definitely one that as soon as it comes out
people's people want to side will probably side with whoever
is against Grunt Dalton on this one. And you can't
argue with the guy's success and you can't argue with
(03:40):
what he's done in terms of in terms of the
America's Cup. But every time something like this happens, you know,
I'm going to have the tighter public opinion kind of
go against them on this. And yet you're right, Peter
Billing's probably got more important things in his life going
on right now. But it is a real shame because
(04:00):
he is the most well known sailor in New Zealand
and if he goes and decides to work for someone else,
he's going to be the most wonn Saliyon. But not
sailing for Teamy's Yon.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well, he doesn't be sailing for anyone else. He's not
allowed to because he's not eligible one of the rules
of the Cup. But he could go in and an
advisory role to someone like a Lingey for example, for
a pot full of cash with not a great deal
of work as far as being stuck in the warehouse
trying to design the damn thing. So wouldn't surprise me
if that's the way it goes. And let's face it,
(04:34):
he's won the Americas Cup three times, he's never one
sale GP, so I can see the focus. I stand
to be proven wrong, but I'm a hot take broadcaster,
so I've got to say something. Hey, Michael Burgess, Sebasti
and Schabal, how bad is this story? This is just gross?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
The worst part of the story. Yeah, I mean it's
it's kind of I don't want to say not surprising.
But the way he played, you know, he was such
a cult figure, and he was a cult figure because
he was so uncompromising, put his body on the line,
put his head where it shouldn't go, got smashed all
the time, smashed people all the time. I mean, he's
one of the French players. If you talk to New
(05:12):
Zealand rugby fans, you'd get an immediate recognition. You know,
he was so popular both here and France. He's popular everywhere.
But yeah, the fact that he's saying you can't remember
a single minute of any of the matches at the
sixty one matches he played for France. Even worse though
for me, you can't remember anything about his daughter's birth,
which you know, for any normal dad is imprinted on
(05:34):
your brain forever in your life. So this is this.
I mean, we're try around where he's like tragic a
bit loosely, but this is absolutely tragic. And unfortunately, as
we know, he's definitely not the first and he's not
going to be the last. You know, there's going to
be a lot more of a lot more from his generation.
I would have thought. The only good thing is, and
(05:55):
Jamie will know all about this, is that they are
doing things to make it better slowly, so hopefully we
see less and less of these cases in the future.
That's all. That's all I can hopeful.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Ignoring it and ignorance of the fact that concussion is
devastating in rugby union that's now disappeared. We're now finding
what's happening, why it's happening, how to possibly solve it.
So this is, as Michael Burgers said, Jamie Wall this
is one of the one of the few positives around
the story of Chabale, the Sea bass who can no
(06:32):
longer remember a damn thing.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, it is, like Mike said, tragic, and and you
are right, like there are things being done about it.
I would say that it's not entirely new, like in
terms of as someone who played rugby from a young age,
like we were taught to kind of be mindful of
hea knocks since I was younger, and it's just become
(06:57):
kind of more normal in the professional game now because
they've had to be kind of confronted and admit it.
And that's why we have stricta the coles and those
smart teach mouthguards that actually came into play in both
the games last night, the one the couple of the
Crusaders had had to leave the field for Hia because
(07:18):
of the mouth guard technology. So that that shows how
seriously it is being taken at that at that level.
I will say one thing though, it is kind of notable.
And you know, this is something that I read on
a Google translation from the original French article from the
Alo Keep article. Chabal didn't actually mention anything about concussions
and what he said you kind of have to join
(07:40):
those dots yourself, and I think he's just being mindful
that you know, perhaps you know this might be there
is a medical possibility that it might be something else
that he's been suffering from. So I think it is
worth pointing out that he didn't say this is because
I played Ruby. He's just saying that I'm having these
these memory issues and that dementia among all people and
(08:02):
early onset demension among all people is a real thing
as well.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I'm so glad you've pointed that out, Jamie wall You've
done the Markie, You've read through it all and that
is a great bit of intel. Jamie wall on the
All Star panel along with Michael Burgess. More from the
Men coming up next a News talkb A forty six
All Star Panel Michael Burgess and Jamie wall A Here Jamie, Jamie, Jamie.
(08:31):
Super Rugby on the up and up and up. Quality
of play is good, it's better and eyeballs are on it.
It's actually working, Jamie. It's a miracle, yes.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
And it say it has been a constant narrative throughout
the season. And fair enough too, because the rugby has
been really really good, because it started off hot and
it got a bit got hotter, and it's it seems
as though with eleven teams that I've actually managed to
kind of solve a bit of an issue by not
having multiple teams take their buys over a couple of weeks.
(09:08):
But I actually think that the standard has been pretty
good ever since it did come back from COVID. Last year,
for example, was we were all kind of saying that
this is the most interesting season of it because the
Crusaders were finally being knocked off their perch, and that's
been followed up this year by just really outstanding play
and the amount of jeopardy created in all of the games,
(09:32):
and you can see it last night. I mean, I
don't think anyone would have thought that the Chiefs were
going to lose to the Warts, and yet they did,
and it took I think, possibly the tribe of the
century in order for the Warritors to pull off that result.
In terms of the viewing numbers, well, to be honest,
that doesn't really come as much of a surprise. Like
this is New Zealand and it is rugby, so you know,
(09:53):
there hasn't been that much of a massive shift in
terms of what people are preferring. There's been just been
a large growth in people just watching sport overall, and
Michael will death we'd be able to tell you that. Obviously,
the football in Auckland has been fantastic success in terms
of that, and the Warriors are getting great in numbers
as well, but this is an increase across the board.
(10:15):
It's not like these people are watching these games instead
of watching Ruby's. They're watching it as well as and
that's why you're seeing those numbers come out. The biggest
Rugby's biggest kind of optic issue, I guess is that
the people actually attending games doesn't seem to be that high,
even though attendances are actually up on last year. So
that's something that they probably need to look at. I'm
(10:36):
not sure how they're going to solve it, but I
guess on the whole, it is obviously a good news
story in a positive trend for.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
A national game, Jamie, I'll tell you how they're going
to solve it. What they really need to do is
put all the games at smaller grounds so they look
for right, Michael, They say there's a lot more people
watching and there's a thirty percent rise in viewership in Australia,
but I'd say there was no one watching last year,
(11:02):
so thirty percent probably doesn't count for a great deal.
Doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Well, yeah, I mean, as Jamie says that there's two
really big things out of this year is one is
that it is amazingly competitive, and that's all people want.
People just want a degree of the unknown. That's why
the NRL has been so popular for years because you're
never quite sure in most games who's going to win.
Super Rugby hasn't had that. It's got that now and
(11:28):
that is just magic for competition organizers. You know, that's
what every competition wants. Suddenly it's super competitive. And the
other thing is, yeah, the Australian teams aren't crap anymore.
You know, they're really good. So obviously the interest is
going to grow in Australia because they have been They've
been so bad just because they haven't had the talent
to have five teams. And now it seems just about right.
(11:49):
So it's good signs the product's good. I'm not sure
the answer are getting people back to grounds, but yeah,
there is an obvious issue with two grounds in particular
Edam Park and Sky Stadium that are just too big
generally for the crowds that come along and.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Call just before we get out there's another big ground
being played at this afternoon, Maljana taking on the Blues
this crosstown derby. You reckon Majana close to becoming Auckland's
favorite team.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
No, I don't think so. I think they're going a
bit far if you look, if you look. But but
it's fantastic because they're giving Auckland as a choice. You know,
Aucklanders can now decide who they want to follow. And
you can't beat a local rivalry if you look at
what what if you look at the NRL, what the
Dolphins have done for that that code with the Dolphins
and the Broncos. Now. Yeah, and also it's been a
(12:43):
bit of a perfect storm. They've had these great results.
They play in exciting style. The Blues you know, are
a bit direct and probably their styles a bit more,
a bit will narrow. So look, you know this is great.
It's going to tell you what, It's gonna be a
lot easier for them when it comes to recruiting players
next year. And this is the kind of thing the
NERL desperately needs. I really hope the nerl's noticing this
(13:04):
because we need a can valent team in the NRL.
Come on the.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Right across. They have Jamie we're going to finish off
with you. You're a proud Auckland's lad. I'm presuming, I
don't know. An't you playing your rugby up here? Milana
v Auckland? Do you reckon? People are leading towards Milana.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I think they've definitely got their own fan base. And
I think it's really interesting as well, because you know,
Miana have come in and said, hey, we represent this
Pacific Pacific a community of this region, and the Blues,
probably well within their rights, have turned around in really
do you because I feel like we're already doing that.
So I feel like there's that bit of an edge
(13:47):
on this game. I don't think the players of the
coaches are going to admit that, but I feel like
it's there, so uh and he guess what. We've got
an afternoon kickoff as well for thirty at Eden Parks,
which is going to be great and and I think
it's going to be a cracking game. And I think
that all the stuff that might fit about why they're
doing so well is absolutely right. But there's one other
massive re as well as his name's Addie Silvia.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, well, Kieff is always there, the elephant in the room,
the pagadem and the parlor of Michael Burgers Jamie Wall,
thank you both for your contribution to the program. Have
wonderful weekends.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Uh thanks boys, Thank gus.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Jamie Will Michael Burgess from the All Star Panel. Eight
point fifty two. The end is night. Well, just for
this program, we'll get Piney on next tick and tell
us what's going on on his show Weekend Sport between
midday and three. It's our plan.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Let's go for more from the All Sport Breakfast with
Darcy Watergrave. Listen live to News Talk set be on
Saturday mornings, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldgrave from News Talk ZEDB All Sport Breakfast All Star Panel.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And we have an all star panel for you. Mister
Michael Burgess, come on down. Good morning day indeed, and
Jamie Wall good morning to you as well.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
What have you got for us morning, Darst Money Burge, Oh,
I've got plenty of mate, got plenty all right.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I will fire away, but I'm going to fire at
Michael Burgess. First, Dalton v. Berling. We heard the Dalton
side of the story, but not the Burling side of
the story. Somewhere in between lives the truth. What's happening there? Michael?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
It's pretty amazing, isn't The Darcis was a story that
kind of came out of the blue, But the fact
that it had taken so long to I guess, get
an agreement together made you think, what is happening here?
I mean a couple of surprising things for me. One
is knowing Peter Burning like I do. He loves the
America's Cup. He's absolutely crazy about the America's Cup and
it's been such a big part of his life. So,
(01:11):
you know, a big decision to step away. But the
other thing is, of course sal GP. You know that
if that SALGIPI wasn't in the picture, I don't think
this would be happening. But he's got SALGP that takes
up a lot of his time. He's just had a child,
so he's a busy guy, and I think that there'd
be two things going on. One that grunt Dalton drives
(01:32):
people pretty hard, so you'd be working pretty hard for him.
But secondly, I get the impression of Peter Biling sometimes
he just wants to drive the boat. You know, in
the America's Cup is such a design driven thing that
he's got to be involved in so much of the
design and the testing for months and months and years
and years on end. Salgp basically can just turn up
(01:53):
and drive the boat more or less. You know, they practice,
of course, but it's because it's a one design scenario.
So I think you put a few of those things
together and you get a picture of what might have
happened here. But as you're indicating dus there's always a
bit more to it. With these statements and these kind
of stories.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well he can do that. That's the thing with Berlin.
He's one of the few sailors out there that works.
As I was talking to Peter Lester yesterday, it's a
great conduit between the sailing and the text, and so
he has to spend a lot of time doing that,
and time is of the essence. And Jamie Wall I'm
absolutely convinced, not that I know any more than any
of you guys too, the most important role that he's
(02:31):
got now is being father to a child, a young child.
And why would you want to be tied up in
so many events you'd rather do? You want to spend
the next couple of years in a warehouse with Grant
Dalton when you could be being a dad, you know,
and you go to the sale GP, which is something
you haven't had success in, and you are the CEO
(02:52):
of the team. I think it's a no brainer.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Well, I think that there's a lot of people who'd
rather be doing anything than stuck in a warehouse with
Grant Dalton. Because it seems like every time we talk
in America's Cup, every time at least I talk to
you about it, his name keeps coming up. And it's
about the relationship that he has with his employees and
also his relationship with the public. And this is another
(03:18):
case and like Mike said, we don't know the full
story about what happened, and we may never know, but
it's definitely one that as soon as it comes out
people's people want to side will probably side with whoever
is against Grunt Dalton on this one. And you can't
argue with the guy's success and you can't argue with
(03:40):
what he's done in terms of in terms of the
America's Cup. But every time something like this happens, you know,
I'm going to have the tighter public opinion kind of
go against them on this. And yet you're right, Peter
Billing's probably got more important things in his life going
on right now. But it is a real shame because
(04:00):
he is the most well known sailor in New Zealand
and if he goes and decides to work for someone else,
he's going to be the most wonn Saliyon. But not
sailing for Teamy's Yon.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well, he doesn't be sailing for anyone else. He's not
allowed to because he's not eligible one of the rules
of the Cup. But he could go in and an
advisory role to someone like a Lingey for example, for
a pot full of cash with not a great deal
of work as far as being stuck in the warehouse
trying to design the damn thing. So wouldn't surprise me
if that's the way it goes. And let's face it,
(04:34):
he's won the Americas Cup three times, he's never one
sale GP, so I can see the focus. I stand
to be proven wrong, but I'm a hot take broadcaster,
so I've got to say something. Hey, Michael Burgess, Sebasti
and Schabal, how bad is this story? This is just gross?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
The worst part of the story. Yeah, I mean it's
it's kind of I don't want to say not surprising.
But the way he played, you know, he was such
a cult figure, and he was a cult figure because
he was so uncompromising, put his body on the line,
put his head where it shouldn't go, got smashed all
the time, smashed people all the time. I mean, he's
one of the French players. If you talk to New
(05:12):
Zealand rugby fans, you'd get an immediate recognition. You know,
he was so popular both here and France. He's popular everywhere.
But yeah, the fact that he's saying you can't remember
a single minute of any of the matches at the
sixty one matches he played for France. Even worse though
for me, you can't remember anything about his daughter's birth,
which you know, for any normal dad is imprinted on
(05:34):
your brain forever in your life. So this is this.
I mean, we're try around where he's like tragic a
bit loosely, but this is absolutely tragic. And unfortunately, as
we know, he's definitely not the first and he's not
going to be the last. You know, there's going to
be a lot more of a lot more from his generation.
I would have thought. The only good thing is, and
(05:55):
Jamie will know all about this, is that they are
doing things to make it better slowly, so hopefully we
see less and less of these cases in the future.
That's all. That's all I can hopeful.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Ignoring it and ignorance of the fact that concussion is
devastating in rugby union that's now disappeared. We're now finding
what's happening, why it's happening, how to possibly solve it.
So this is, as Michael Burgers said, Jamie Wall this
is one of the one of the few positives around
the story of Chabale, the Sea bass who can no
(06:32):
longer remember a damn thing.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, it is, like Mike said, tragic, and and you
are right, like there are things being done about it.
I would say that it's not entirely new, like in
terms of as someone who played rugby from a young age,
like we were taught to kind of be mindful of
hea knocks since I was younger, and it's just become
(06:57):
kind of more normal in the professional game now because
they've had to be kind of confronted and admit it.
And that's why we have stricta the coles and those
smart teach mouthguards that actually came into play in both
the games last night, the one the couple of the
Crusaders had had to leave the field for Hia because
(07:18):
of the mouth guard technology. So that that shows how
seriously it is being taken at that at that level.
I will say one thing though, it is kind of notable.
And you know, this is something that I read on
a Google translation from the original French article from the
Alo Keep article. Chabal didn't actually mention anything about concussions
and what he said you kind of have to join
(07:40):
those dots yourself, and I think he's just being mindful
that you know, perhaps you know this might be there
is a medical possibility that it might be something else
that he's been suffering from. So I think it is
worth pointing out that he didn't say this is because
I played Ruby. He's just saying that I'm having these
these memory issues and that dementia among all people and
(08:02):
early onset demension among all people is a real thing
as well.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I'm so glad you've pointed that out, Jamie wall You've
done the Markie, You've read through it all and that
is a great bit of intel. Jamie wall on the
All Star panel along with Michael Burgess. More from the
Men coming up next a News talkb A forty six
All Star Panel Michael Burgess and Jamie wall A Here Jamie, Jamie, Jamie.
(08:31):
Super Rugby on the up and up and up. Quality
of play is good, it's better and eyeballs are on it.
It's actually working, Jamie. It's a miracle, yes.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
And it say it has been a constant narrative throughout
the season. And fair enough too, because the rugby has
been really really good, because it started off hot and
it got a bit got hotter, and it's it seems
as though with eleven teams that I've actually managed to
kind of solve a bit of an issue by not
having multiple teams take their buys over a couple of weeks.
(09:08):
But I actually think that the standard has been pretty
good ever since it did come back from COVID. Last year,
for example, was we were all kind of saying that
this is the most interesting season of it because the
Crusaders were finally being knocked off their perch, and that's
been followed up this year by just really outstanding play
and the amount of jeopardy created in all of the games,
(09:32):
and you can see it last night. I mean, I
don't think anyone would have thought that the Chiefs were
going to lose to the Warts, and yet they did,
and it took I think, possibly the tribe of the
century in order for the Warritors to pull off that result.
In terms of the viewing numbers, well, to be honest,
that doesn't really come as much of a surprise. Like
this is New Zealand and it is rugby, so you know,
(09:53):
there hasn't been that much of a massive shift in
terms of what people are preferring. There's been just been
a large growth in people just watching sport overall, and
Michael will death we'd be able to tell you that. Obviously,
the football in Auckland has been fantastic success in terms
of that, and the Warriors are getting great in numbers
as well, but this is an increase across the board.
(10:15):
It's not like these people are watching these games instead
of watching Ruby's. They're watching it as well as and
that's why you're seeing those numbers come out. The biggest
Rugby's biggest kind of optic issue, I guess is that
the people actually attending games doesn't seem to be that high,
even though attendances are actually up on last year. So
that's something that they probably need to look at. I'm
(10:36):
not sure how they're going to solve it, but I
guess on the whole, it is obviously a good news
story in a positive trend for.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
A national game, Jamie, I'll tell you how they're going
to solve it. What they really need to do is
put all the games at smaller grounds so they look
for right, Michael, They say there's a lot more people
watching and there's a thirty percent rise in viewership in Australia,
but I'd say there was no one watching last year,
(11:02):
so thirty percent probably doesn't count for a great deal.
Doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Well, yeah, I mean, as Jamie says that there's two
really big things out of this year is one is
that it is amazingly competitive, and that's all people want.
People just want a degree of the unknown. That's why
the NRL has been so popular for years because you're
never quite sure in most games who's going to win.
Super Rugby hasn't had that. It's got that now and
(11:28):
that is just magic for competition organizers. You know, that's
what every competition wants. Suddenly it's super competitive. And the
other thing is, yeah, the Australian teams aren't crap anymore.
You know, they're really good. So obviously the interest is
going to grow in Australia because they have been They've
been so bad just because they haven't had the talent
to have five teams. And now it seems just about right.
(11:49):
So it's good signs the product's good. I'm not sure
the answer are getting people back to grounds, but yeah,
there is an obvious issue with two grounds in particular
Edam Park and Sky Stadium that are just too big
generally for the crowds that come along and.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Call just before we get out there's another big ground
being played at this afternoon, Maljana taking on the Blues
this crosstown derby. You reckon Majana close to becoming Auckland's
favorite team.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
No, I don't think so. I think they're going a
bit far if you look, if you look. But but
it's fantastic because they're giving Auckland as a choice. You know,
Aucklanders can now decide who they want to follow. And
you can't beat a local rivalry if you look at
what what if you look at the NRL, what the
Dolphins have done for that that code with the Dolphins
and the Broncos. Now. Yeah, and also it's been a
(12:43):
bit of a perfect storm. They've had these great results.
They play in exciting style. The Blues you know, are
a bit direct and probably their styles a bit more,
a bit will narrow. So look, you know this is great.
It's going to tell you what, It's gonna be a
lot easier for them when it comes to recruiting players
next year. And this is the kind of thing the
NERL desperately needs. I really hope the nerl's noticing this
(13:04):
because we need a can valent team in the NRL.
Come on the.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Right across. They have Jamie we're going to finish off
with you. You're a proud Auckland's lad. I'm presuming, I
don't know. An't you playing your rugby up here? Milana
v Auckland? Do you reckon? People are leading towards Milana.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I think they've definitely got their own fan base. And
I think it's really interesting as well, because you know,
Miana have come in and said, hey, we represent this
Pacific Pacific a community of this region, and the Blues,
probably well within their rights, have turned around in really
do you because I feel like we're already doing that.
So I feel like there's that bit of an edge
(13:47):
on this game. I don't think the players of the
coaches are going to admit that, but I feel like
it's there, so uh and he guess what. We've got
an afternoon kickoff as well for thirty at Eden Parks,
which is going to be great and and I think
it's going to be a cracking game. And I think
that all the stuff that might fit about why they're
doing so well is absolutely right. But there's one other
massive re as well as his name's Addie Silvia.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, well, Kieff is always there, the elephant in the room,
the pagadem and the parlor of Michael Burgers Jamie Wall,
thank you both for your contribution to the program. Have
wonderful weekends.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Uh thanks boys, Thank gus.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Jamie Will Michael Burgess from the All Star Panel. Eight
point fifty two. The end is night. Well, just for
this program, we'll get Piney on next tick and tell
us what's going on on his show Weekend Sport between
midday and three. It's our plan.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Let's go for more from the All Sport Breakfast with
Darcy Watergrave. Listen live to News Talk set be on
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