This week’s panel features Nathan Limm and Ross Bond. On the agenda this weekend:
- The Crusaders and Chiefs are clashing for the Super Rugby Pacific title
- The Warriors are facing an underpowered Panthers team
- Is Auckland City FC facing humiliation on the world stage?
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldgrave from News Talk ZEDB All Sports Breakfast, All Star Panel.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
It is the All Star panel on the News Talk
ZB and the All Sport Breakfast. It is twenty five
minutes to nine and nothing's changed in the Lions game.
Fifteen minutes to go on that Argentina still leading twenty
eight plays at twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Nathan didn't get to escape for the.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Studio because he used to stay here because he star
part of the All Star panel on the All Sport Breakfast.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Thanks very much for sticking her up.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Oh you will excuse me.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I'm having a terrible day. Don't I get a ross bond?
How are you?
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Good morning? I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
No, happy as they come. I'm happy as they can.
And started with you roscers like you don't care. You're
right in the middle of fact, Nathan Limb. You don't
care about the result either this after or this evening.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You don't do it well.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
It's interesting approaching this game Chiefs Crusader Super Rugby far
as a neutral but also as an Aucklander, because on
the one hand, you really don't want the Crusaders to
win again.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
We only just.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Got them off the podium. I don't want to see
them back up there again. But then on the other hand,
Whykarto hates us as well? So like I think the idea,
the idea of them, I mean, the idea of them
dropping four finals in five years is kind of funny
in a way. But then also, you know, you got
the Crusaders on the other half, So I don't know
(01:34):
if I'm going to watch Darsy.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
That's why I didn't start off with Nathan, because I
knew it. Ad get that it's going to start off
with you Ross Bond, because you're right down there.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You're literally in the middle of the Whakatle and of
Canterbury and Welling Town. Where are you leaning for this?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
And why, oh mate, I've got to be leaning. I've
got to be leaning up the island. Had of it
to do with Clayton McMillan when he was at Marrison
Pats and Wellington and of course night Tira r Koy
and so there's a little bit of a capital connection
up there. And yeah, like Nathan, look, I don't have
a lot of love for the Crusaders. Nobody does, no
(02:09):
and that's more around. I have even less love for
the absolute dog of a stadium that they're playing at.
I mean, seriously, but they don't even like that stadium. No,
I know, having experienced it over the years. I mean,
it's just awful, so hard they're going to do it.
I actually tracked some students up into needing them so
they could set fire to it, to be honest, I mean,
(02:30):
it's it, but no, no, unlike you two, well no
that does. I guess you're going to watch it, and
Nathan's obviously not. He's going to count himself in a
dark room. I'll be watching. I'll be watching because I
think this has got the potential to be one hell
of a clash. So yeah, look, I mean, my heart's
with the Chiefs and the Chiefs Boys and Clayton. I
hope that he goes out on a high note. He's
(02:53):
done an outstanding job with that chief side over the
last few years. But I think this is going to
be one hell of a clash.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeahmstrong of that as a coach. Clayton McMillan just bridesmaid, bridesmaid, bride.
It's made brice maid. If that doesn't hang around and start.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Getting into your head.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I don't know what will I mean Ross, This Chiefs
team is very, very impressive, but carrying a troop of gorillas.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
On these shoulders at the moment, aren't they going into this?
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Well, they've got the Amazon rainforest on their shoulders to
be fair, Yeah, But I mean, if there's one team,
I think they've been pretty outstanding throughout this competition. But
so as the boys in Red and Black. I mean,
twelve months ago we were talking about how woeful they
were and Rob Penny was the worst coach in the world.
But he's done a pretty good job with this team
this year. And they I mean, they do know how
(03:42):
to win at home, don't know, And they've got a
hell of a record of that's Orange Hill or whatever
they call it these days.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Tell you what my personal feelings aside. I am backing
the Chiefs tonight because I just think that they've look
they've clearly been the dominant force throughout Super Rugby this year.
They've been the most consistent team. The points differential was
at plus two hundred and thirty eight at the end
of the regular season. They also cruised to two pretty
comfortable victories over the Crusaders during the regular season, including
(04:09):
the last one at in christ Church. So I don't
think the Chiefs will have a mental block in regards
to the Crusaders as an opposition. I think potentially the
mental block comes in with the final, the aspect of
it being the final, because how would you feel Chiefs
fans and Chiefs players if you lose again a fourth
final in five years.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
That's got a sting.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I mean even the Highlanders have won a title more
recently than the Chiefs. That's got a way on them
a little bit. Given how successful and consistent they've been
over a number of years.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
They just really yes, no they haven't.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yes they have twenty fifteen, twenty fifteen for the Highland
as he threw me off there Chiefs in twenty twelve
and twenty thirteen. So yes, it's been a long time
coming for the Chiefs, and yes that I think that
will weigh on them. But I am backing them to
get the job done tonight.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
That's hope.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So I talked to David Hill this morning. He seems
to think I'm a Chiefs fan. I don't think I've
been slapped thing like that my life. And I'd say
that if the Crusaders do get rolled in this game
of season. I'm not saying it's not going to happen,
even though I'm a Crusaders fan, and you'll respect what
the Chiefs can bring if they lose. If the last
thing that happens for Orange, No.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Not Orange the anymore again, Apollo Project.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Apollo Projects, the lean to I'd say that wouldn't last
till next season.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
It's one of the great names, isn't it, Apollo Project Stadium.
It just rolls off that tongue.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Well, at least Apollo Projects are getting their advertising.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Hey, Ross, what do you think about cow bell gate Beers?
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I think it's funny.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
I've figur it's an outstanding crack of the whip by
Men's Ridge and as marketing team at the Crusaders, just
to just mainly I think deflect a little bit off
the off the playing side of it, and just I
thought it was a crack.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Up a funnily enough, I thought it might happen. We
were talking about it round the table at the forty
Club last Saturday, and someone said, what do you reckon
they'll do? One of the boys what they can do
about the cow bells, And one of the others said, Oh,
I reckon, the Crusader will come out and say they're
not allowed them. So I think it's a stroke of genius.
I think it's funny. And I mean, to be honest,
how many cow bells would have gone down there anyway?
(06:21):
So yeah, I think it's just yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Fully, I fully support the Crusaders here, and I've never
said that sentence before in my life.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
But are you all right?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
He's not. It's been stuck in the studio and even
twenty minutes call the cops.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
No.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I feel like the cow bells. If I was a
Chiefs fan and I knew I had to sit through
ninety minutes of that recket every time I went to
a home game, that had put me off going. I
don't think they sound great anyway. I'd like to know
what Chiefs fans actually think of it. But I'm backing
the Crusaders here. I think this is a good gimmick.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, and what I'm interested in here, And you can
tell me your old school rugby ross bond last time
I checked. Last time I checked, the Chiefs didn't just
represent the white cattle.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
This is a Mulu team.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
The Chiefs spread far and wide, so if they're getting
all upset about it, it's not why kitle.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Right, correct?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Mind you? I suppose there's a bit of a connect
to Taranaki year, So I mean they got stand in
the middle of the island and bang the bells and
the moves, and the Taranaki might sort of come to
heat as well. I'm not sure, but yeah, you're right.
I mean it's it's not a White Cato team, is it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Hey, just quick before he finished the subject for everyone ever,
our men Ross bond. How much are the Crusaders going
to win by it?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I'm sorry? What's the finals called?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
You just dropped out there from a note I did?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Sorry? Repeat Hello and the score? I think right to
the Crusaders. Okay, fine, and.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Nathan, I'm going Chiefs twenty eight to twenty five.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
There you go. Should be tied.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Let's hope it's the case we have more from the
All Star Panels Center rather than later. There is sixty
seven to go in the Argentine Lions game. Argentine, that's
still with that four point margin twenty age at twenty four.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Some guys texted it and said, how about we tie
cow bells to drones? And seeing them.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
They're going to have to be super super strong drones
fall shure. It wasn't being rained down by Aaron Cowbells
in the middle.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Of the night.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Why are we playing this music?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
It's not me, it's bevins b It's eight forty three.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I didn't do it. It's not out of.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
All Sports Breakfast All Star panel, and the.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
All Star panel consists of a Ross Bond out of
Middle Earth and of course our friend Nathan Limb, who
I'm slowly but surely turning into a Crusaders fan. Yeah right, yeah, okay,
no one, let's talk about the Warriors and the Panthers
and travel Ross after Origin.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
That that's their problem, right, I knew it was going
to come. It's like, deal with it. Oh, hold on,
hadn't put you on a sorry Russell at the studio
with us?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
It was one of my best answers I've ever done.
Hold On forgotten? What was the question? Ye? Deal with it.
It's not easy. I mean, I think Clary's got a
point to be honest, but the whole, the whole Origin
thing in and around the NRL competition irks me to
be honest, and it's it's just like the way the
(09:45):
draws done, the way the buys come, and I mean
the travel thing. This is a this is a little
bit unusual, to be fair, and I guess Clary's got
a point, but you're right, it's not like it's been
a surprise. But yeah, it's just I'm not sure how
they can do it better. But it's just it seems
to me that some of the teams get the rub
(10:06):
the green around the Origin time and they have their
buyers and they have their the home games or whatever.
But yeah, it's not easy with the Origin stuff being
stuck in the middle of the NRL season. I mean,
at some stage any team's gonna winge about it, don't well.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Nathan, you're all over the place in your league. You
got your own podcast. It's like the back of your hand,
and you could say it is. It is unfair, but
like life's unfair. Life is a stern father. Things never
go well.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
But I also, you had a terrible upbringing, didn't your
ross the way? He laughed at that one.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, you know, but but really I think the NRL
looked at this and when Penrith you can't keep winning
out competitions.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Oh you know what, we can do right, stick in.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Origin and perthinal back them up over an awkward see
if this is deliberate.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
From the hang on a second, they won four in
a row with all these players, so this isn't This
isn't like a new thing having to deal with with
origin in the middle of the season. And Penrith with
all their Origin players have won four premierships in a row.
So even if you do stick a game in Perth
that historically has not derailed a team season, teams like them.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Back up, but so hard because getting back from Perth
back to the East you see what and then back
over to worries that they actually can't.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
So it is it is by by chance that because
they're coming all the way from Perth and they have
to go all the way from Auckland. And you might think, okay,
well they're playing Wednesday night and then the NRL game
is Saturday afternoon, so surely they can make it back
to Auckland in time. But the issue is you catch
a flight. They couldn't fly direct, so you fly from
Perth to I believe Sydney and then Sydney to Auckland.
(11:42):
The earliest they could get to Auckland was Friday morning,
so when you're dealing with a four hour time difference
and a seven hour overnight flight. Andrew Webster said it
earlier this week, it's actually dangerous for them to play
the players. And we saw Mitch Barnett do as was
as ACL a few weeks ago after playing Game one
of Origin, and you know, Webster pointed out, the game's
(12:02):
too fast and we're putting too much pressure on these players.
These players are coming in and off a state of origin,
off the flight, off the time difference. They haven't trained
with the NRL team for a week and a half.
We're expecting too much of these players if we are
making them back up. To be honest, I wouldn't mind
if the NRAL just said a blanket, you know, protect
the players, give the Origin players the round off after
(12:23):
after the midweek game.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Just suspend the whole NRL for a month and play
the Origin during that month and focus entirely on that.
And Ross you gotta be with you on that. The
NRL have stitched the Panthers up because they can't stand them.
The Panthers for warning all this competition. So they've done
this deliberately, mate, They absolutely have tell me what.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah, based on what where are you getting that from?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, they don't like them because they keep winning, so
they're going to go, Okay, what we're going to do
is we're going to send you to the other side
of the world to play a game of origin, all
your best players, and your next game.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Is against the Worry. That's a load of rubbish. Oyah.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I love a conspiracy theory as at the same time
they stitched up the result in Perth.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, okay, I think I get the idea where you're going, Hey,
just quickly on this.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
We've got to We've got we're gonna go.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
This is getting income fact Aukland FC Ross. They say
they're being humiliated on the world stage.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I don't know if they're being humiliated.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
They're getting well beaten by superior teams that have got
all of the resource in the world. I don't think
this is a humiliation. I think this is a reality
and I think the players will be loving the fat
they get to play against guys of this quality.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Surely.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Yeah, I agree with you. Look, if you ask any
of the boys that have played against the Staying and
then played last night or this morning, you know, sex
mil this morning, I think that's probably one of the
highlights of their careers, wouldn't it be? Surely? I mean
it's no different than you know that the early ren
throughly shield games with the division one side to seventy
(13:59):
eighty ninety sometimes one hundred on the Heartland teams. But
the Heartland boys that play in those games, they remember
them forever and ever. Look, I don't think humiliation is
a pretty tough word, to be fair. I'm sure that
the players that played will put that in the in
the memories and be a story time in the Grandkibs
and years to come.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I thought I thought it was hilarious seeing Harry Kane's
social media post before the Club World Cup start, where
he's he's you know, gearing up in like boxing gear
as if he's about to fight, you know, on the
world stage. And then his first fixture lists is against
Auckland CITYFC. You know Bayn Munich striker, you know, a
legend of football, and Auckland CITYFC is his first opponent.
(14:41):
I just thought it was hilarious. This isn't a humiliation.
I mean half these players aren't even full time professional athletes,
and as multi millionaires European giants do you think when
Namibia comes up against the All Blacks in the World
Cup and they get smoked eighty eighty three seven, that
they sit around afterwards and go, oh, we're humiliated, that
(15:02):
was a disgrace. No, they don't. They just celebrate whatever
fight they could put up against someone who's just out
of the league. And that's just the reality of what
it is. So now full kudos to to Auckland CITYFC
and whatever they can produce in this competition.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Well all fighting for the little guy and the little team.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I'll leave you boys of this last text before you go,
Hey dars, why didn't the players just chatter a small
jet and fly direct?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
No problem. Surely their club can afford it to point though,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And ross with that you have a wonderful weekend sitting
on the fence and enjoying the exchange.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Always great to have you.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Good only made and also for you and Nathan Lemon,
enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I'm not going to watch it by a really flash
suit for this, I'm just.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I'm just going to soak in the last few hours
of the Blues being reigning Super Rugby champions.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Soak away.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
It's eight fifty three
Speaker 1 (15:54):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
It is the All Star panel on the News Talk
ZB and the All Sport Breakfast. It is twenty five
minutes to nine and nothing's changed in the Lions game.
Fifteen minutes to go on that Argentina still leading twenty
eight plays at twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Nathan didn't get to escape for the.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Studio because he used to stay here because he star
part of the All Star panel on the All Sport Breakfast.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Thanks very much for sticking her up.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Oh you will excuse me.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I'm having a terrible day. Don't I get a ross bond?
How are you?
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Good morning? I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
No, happy as they come. I'm happy as they can.
And started with you roscers like you don't care. You're
right in the middle of fact, Nathan Limb. You don't
care about the result either this after or this evening.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You don't do it well.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
It's interesting approaching this game Chiefs Crusader Super Rugby far
as a neutral but also as an Aucklander, because on
the one hand, you really don't want the Crusaders to
win again.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
We only just.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Got them off the podium. I don't want to see
them back up there again. But then on the other hand,
Whykarto hates us as well? So like I think the idea,
the idea of them, I mean, the idea of them
dropping four finals in five years is kind of funny
in a way. But then also, you know, you got
the Crusaders on the other half, So I don't know
(01:34):
if I'm going to watch Darsy.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
That's why I didn't start off with Nathan, because I
knew it. Ad get that it's going to start off
with you Ross Bond, because you're right down there.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You're literally in the middle of the Whakatle and of
Canterbury and Welling Town. Where are you leaning for this?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
And why, oh mate, I've got to be leaning. I've
got to be leaning up the island. Had of it
to do with Clayton McMillan when he was at Marrison
Pats and Wellington and of course night Tira r Koy
and so there's a little bit of a capital connection
up there. And yeah, like Nathan, look, I don't have
a lot of love for the Crusaders. Nobody does, no
(02:09):
and that's more around. I have even less love for
the absolute dog of a stadium that they're playing at.
I mean, seriously, but they don't even like that stadium. No,
I know, having experienced it over the years. I mean,
it's just awful, so hard they're going to do it.
I actually tracked some students up into needing them so
they could set fire to it, to be honest, I mean,
(02:30):
it's it, but no, no, unlike you two, well no
that does. I guess you're going to watch it, and
Nathan's obviously not. He's going to count himself in a
dark room. I'll be watching. I'll be watching because I
think this has got the potential to be one hell
of a clash. So yeah, look, I mean, my heart's
with the Chiefs and the Chiefs Boys and Clayton. I
hope that he goes out on a high note. He's
(02:53):
done an outstanding job with that chief side over the
last few years. But I think this is going to
be one hell of a clash.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeahmstrong of that as a coach. Clayton McMillan just bridesmaid, bridesmaid, bride.
It's made brice maid. If that doesn't hang around and start.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Getting into your head.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I don't know what will I mean Ross, This Chiefs
team is very, very impressive, but carrying a troop of gorillas.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
On these shoulders at the moment, aren't they going into this?
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Well, they've got the Amazon rainforest on their shoulders to
be fair, Yeah, But I mean, if there's one team,
I think they've been pretty outstanding throughout this competition. But
so as the boys in Red and Black. I mean,
twelve months ago we were talking about how woeful they
were and Rob Penny was the worst coach in the world.
But he's done a pretty good job with this team
this year. And they I mean, they do know how
(03:42):
to win at home, don't know, And they've got a
hell of a record of that's Orange Hill or whatever
they call it these days.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Tell you what my personal feelings aside. I am backing
the Chiefs tonight because I just think that they've look
they've clearly been the dominant force throughout Super Rugby this year.
They've been the most consistent team. The points differential was
at plus two hundred and thirty eight at the end
of the regular season. They also cruised to two pretty
comfortable victories over the Crusaders during the regular season, including
(04:09):
the last one at in christ Church. So I don't
think the Chiefs will have a mental block in regards
to the Crusaders as an opposition. I think potentially the
mental block comes in with the final, the aspect of
it being the final, because how would you feel Chiefs
fans and Chiefs players if you lose again a fourth
final in five years.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
That's got a sting.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I mean even the Highlanders have won a title more
recently than the Chiefs. That's got a way on them
a little bit. Given how successful and consistent they've been
over a number of years.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
They just really yes, no they haven't.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yes they have twenty fifteen, twenty fifteen for the Highland
as he threw me off there Chiefs in twenty twelve
and twenty thirteen. So yes, it's been a long time
coming for the Chiefs, and yes that I think that
will weigh on them. But I am backing them to
get the job done tonight.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
That's hope.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So I talked to David Hill this morning. He seems
to think I'm a Chiefs fan. I don't think I've
been slapped thing like that my life. And I'd say
that if the Crusaders do get rolled in this game
of season. I'm not saying it's not going to happen,
even though I'm a Crusaders fan, and you'll respect what
the Chiefs can bring if they lose. If the last
thing that happens for Orange, No.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Not Orange the anymore again, Apollo Project.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Apollo Projects, the lean to I'd say that wouldn't last
till next season.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
It's one of the great names, isn't it, Apollo Project Stadium.
It just rolls off that tongue.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Well, at least Apollo Projects are getting their advertising.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Hey, Ross, what do you think about cow bell gate Beers?
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I think it's funny.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
I've figur it's an outstanding crack of the whip by
Men's Ridge and as marketing team at the Crusaders, just
to just mainly I think deflect a little bit off
the off the playing side of it, and just I
thought it was a crack.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Up a funnily enough, I thought it might happen. We
were talking about it round the table at the forty
Club last Saturday, and someone said, what do you reckon
they'll do? One of the boys what they can do
about the cow bells, And one of the others said, Oh,
I reckon, the Crusader will come out and say they're
not allowed them. So I think it's a stroke of genius.
I think it's funny. And I mean, to be honest,
how many cow bells would have gone down there anyway?
(06:21):
So yeah, I think it's just yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Fully, I fully support the Crusaders here, and I've never
said that sentence before in my life.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
But are you all right?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
He's not. It's been stuck in the studio and even
twenty minutes call the cops.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
No.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I feel like the cow bells. If I was a
Chiefs fan and I knew I had to sit through
ninety minutes of that recket every time I went to
a home game, that had put me off going. I
don't think they sound great anyway. I'd like to know
what Chiefs fans actually think of it. But I'm backing
the Crusaders here. I think this is a good gimmick.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, and what I'm interested in here, And you can
tell me your old school rugby ross bond last time
I checked. Last time I checked, the Chiefs didn't just
represent the white cattle.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
This is a Mulu team.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
The Chiefs spread far and wide, so if they're getting
all upset about it, it's not why kitle.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Right, correct?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Mind you? I suppose there's a bit of a connect
to Taranaki year, So I mean they got stand in
the middle of the island and bang the bells and
the moves, and the Taranaki might sort of come to
heat as well. I'm not sure, but yeah, you're right.
I mean it's it's not a White Cato team, is it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Hey, just quick before he finished the subject for everyone ever,
our men Ross bond. How much are the Crusaders going
to win by it?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I'm sorry? What's the finals called?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
You just dropped out there from a note I did?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Sorry? Repeat Hello and the score? I think right to
the Crusaders. Okay, fine, and.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Nathan, I'm going Chiefs twenty eight to twenty five.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
There you go. Should be tied.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Let's hope it's the case we have more from the
All Star Panels Center rather than later. There is sixty
seven to go in the Argentine Lions game. Argentine, that's
still with that four point margin twenty age at twenty four.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Some guys texted it and said, how about we tie
cow bells to drones? And seeing them.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
They're going to have to be super super strong drones
fall shure. It wasn't being rained down by Aaron Cowbells
in the middle.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Of the night.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Why are we playing this music?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
It's not me, it's bevins b It's eight forty three.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I didn't do it. It's not out of.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
All Sports Breakfast All Star panel, and the.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
All Star panel consists of a Ross Bond out of
Middle Earth and of course our friend Nathan Limb, who
I'm slowly but surely turning into a Crusaders fan. Yeah right, yeah, okay,
no one, let's talk about the Warriors and the Panthers
and travel Ross after Origin.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
That that's their problem, right, I knew it was going
to come. It's like, deal with it. Oh, hold on,
hadn't put you on a sorry Russell at the studio
with us?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
It was one of my best answers I've ever done.
Hold On forgotten? What was the question? Ye? Deal with it.
It's not easy. I mean, I think Clary's got a
point to be honest, but the whole, the whole Origin
thing in and around the NRL competition irks me to
be honest, and it's it's just like the way the
(09:45):
draws done, the way the buys come, and I mean
the travel thing. This is a this is a little
bit unusual, to be fair, and I guess Clary's got
a point, but you're right, it's not like it's been
a surprise. But yeah, it's just I'm not sure how
they can do it better. But it's just it seems
to me that some of the teams get the rub
(10:06):
the green around the Origin time and they have their
buyers and they have their the home games or whatever.
But yeah, it's not easy with the Origin stuff being
stuck in the middle of the NRL season. I mean,
at some stage any team's gonna winge about it, don't well.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Nathan, you're all over the place in your league. You
got your own podcast. It's like the back of your hand,
and you could say it is. It is unfair, but
like life's unfair. Life is a stern father. Things never
go well.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
But I also, you had a terrible upbringing, didn't your
ross the way? He laughed at that one.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, you know, but but really I think the NRL
looked at this and when Penrith you can't keep winning
out competitions.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Oh you know what, we can do right, stick in.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Origin and perthinal back them up over an awkward see
if this is deliberate.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
From the hang on a second, they won four in
a row with all these players, so this isn't This
isn't like a new thing having to deal with with
origin in the middle of the season. And Penrith with
all their Origin players have won four premierships in a row.
So even if you do stick a game in Perth
that historically has not derailed a team season, teams like them.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Back up, but so hard because getting back from Perth
back to the East you see what and then back
over to worries that they actually can't.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
So it is it is by by chance that because
they're coming all the way from Perth and they have
to go all the way from Auckland. And you might think, okay,
well they're playing Wednesday night and then the NRL game
is Saturday afternoon, so surely they can make it back
to Auckland in time. But the issue is you catch
a flight. They couldn't fly direct, so you fly from
Perth to I believe Sydney and then Sydney to Auckland.
(11:42):
The earliest they could get to Auckland was Friday morning,
so when you're dealing with a four hour time difference
and a seven hour overnight flight. Andrew Webster said it
earlier this week, it's actually dangerous for them to play
the players. And we saw Mitch Barnett do as was
as ACL a few weeks ago after playing Game one
of Origin, and you know, Webster pointed out, the game's
(12:02):
too fast and we're putting too much pressure on these players.
These players are coming in and off a state of origin,
off the flight, off the time difference. They haven't trained
with the NRL team for a week and a half.
We're expecting too much of these players if we are
making them back up. To be honest, I wouldn't mind
if the NRAL just said a blanket, you know, protect
the players, give the Origin players the round off after
(12:23):
after the midweek game.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Just suspend the whole NRL for a month and play
the Origin during that month and focus entirely on that.
And Ross you gotta be with you on that. The
NRL have stitched the Panthers up because they can't stand them.
The Panthers for warning all this competition. So they've done
this deliberately, mate, They absolutely have tell me what.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah, based on what where are you getting that from?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Well, they don't like them because they keep winning, so
they're going to go, Okay, what we're going to do
is we're going to send you to the other side
of the world to play a game of origin, all
your best players, and your next game.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Is against the Worry. That's a load of rubbish. Oyah.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I love a conspiracy theory as at the same time
they stitched up the result in Perth.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, okay, I think I get the idea where you're going, Hey,
just quickly on this.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
We've got to We've got we're gonna go.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
This is getting income fact Aukland FC Ross. They say
they're being humiliated on the world stage.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I don't know if they're being humiliated.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
They're getting well beaten by superior teams that have got
all of the resource in the world. I don't think
this is a humiliation. I think this is a reality
and I think the players will be loving the fat
they get to play against guys of this quality.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Surely.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Yeah, I agree with you. Look, if you ask any
of the boys that have played against the Staying and
then played last night or this morning, you know, sex
mil this morning, I think that's probably one of the
highlights of their careers, wouldn't it be? Surely? I mean
it's no different than you know that the early ren
throughly shield games with the division one side to seventy
(13:59):
eighty ninety sometimes one hundred on the Heartland teams. But
the Heartland boys that play in those games, they remember
them forever and ever. Look, I don't think humiliation is
a pretty tough word, to be fair. I'm sure that
the players that played will put that in the in
the memories and be a story time in the Grandkibs
and years to come.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I thought I thought it was hilarious seeing Harry Kane's
social media post before the Club World Cup start, where
he's he's you know, gearing up in like boxing gear
as if he's about to fight, you know, on the
world stage. And then his first fixture lists is against
Auckland CITYFC. You know Bayn Munich striker, you know, a
legend of football, and Auckland CITYFC is his first opponent.
(14:41):
I just thought it was hilarious. This isn't a humiliation.
I mean half these players aren't even full time professional athletes,
and as multi millionaires European giants do you think when
Namibia comes up against the All Blacks in the World
Cup and they get smoked eighty eighty three seven, that
they sit around afterwards and go, oh, we're humiliated, that
(15:02):
was a disgrace. No, they don't. They just celebrate whatever
fight they could put up against someone who's just out
of the league. And that's just the reality of what
it is. So now full kudos to to Auckland CITYFC
and whatever they can produce in this competition.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Well all fighting for the little guy and the little team.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I'll leave you boys of this last text before you go,
Hey dars, why didn't the players just chatter a small
jet and fly direct?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
No problem. Surely their club can afford it to point though,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And ross with that you have a wonderful weekend sitting
on the fence and enjoying the exchange.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Always great to have you.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Good only made and also for you and Nathan Lemon,
enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I'm not going to watch it by a really flash
suit for this, I'm just.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I'm just going to soak in the last few hours
of the Blues being reigning Super Rugby champions.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Soak away.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
It's eight fifty three
Speaker 1 (15:54):
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