The latest edition of 'The All-Star Panel' features Rugby Journalist Phil Gifford and Commentator Rowena Duncum.
On this weekend's agenda: Dame Patsy stands down from the NZR board, James O'Connor signs with the Crusaders, and the White Ferns stun India at the World Cup.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Wildgrave from News Talks be All Sports Breakfast All Star Panel.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Part of her All Star panels Phil Gifford, he joins
us now.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hello Phil, Yes, hello, right.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Romine and Duncan knows more than her fair share about
things around the farm.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Well, you're definitely wrong, Dars, because it's daylight saving, not
daylight savings. There is no less on the end of it,
and there is a bug beer of.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
No.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I want to cawl across the desk. But like the cows,
can't tell the time, so that doesn't bother them.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Well, their body clock can tell the time. I milked
an hour earlier yesterday, but there's milk out of my body.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
It's the humans that are complaining. Is they're going to
change what they do to keep up with the cow.
The cow doesn't care.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
The cow does care.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
No, no, because the cow can't tell.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
The cow just wants the same thing at the same
time every day according to their body clot Do it
for the.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Cow, don't mean twenty four I fill it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Talk about some sports that on rugby chair Dame at
Patsy Ready did what she said.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
For that, I applaud her film.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, it had to happen. It took a while. It
was what it was back in March, I think where
she said that if they couldn't work out a deal
then she would step down. So yeah, I mean, I'm
with you, Dars. I think if you say you're going
to do something, then you have to do it. I'm
still fascinated by what's going to happen here because after
that enormous report on the governance of New Zealand Rugby,
(01:36):
there's been changes, there's been some compromise and so on,
and Dame Patsy her role in Rugby hasn't finished, of course,
because she's going to.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
Be part of the group that basically puts into another
group that's going to suggest another group that should actually
run and think as long as that other group is
approved by all of the provincial unions.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
My god, this is more complicated than milking cows.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's absolutely ridiculous. You know all about this Rowena Duncan.
I think perhaps she's pain he said, yep, this is
what I said, So I'm going to do it. I
think under the cover she's gone. God, I hate being
involved with rugby.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I'm out. I can't wait to get out of the
sick Well.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
This has been one of the most disruptive passages in
rugby's history, so obviously there need to be some big changes.
So yeah, good on her fast following through on what
she said she would, because it was very open to
interpretation there for a while if she was going to
or not.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, it was that's politics, that's rugby. Welcome to the mess.
Let's move away to that, move to proper rugby, actually
out of the boardroom, actually on the park. James O'Connor, Phil,
we've got little Justin Bieber. I shouldn't say that he's
grown man now. He's been playing for a long time
and he's definitely matured. Is this good for the Crusaders?
(02:49):
Is this good for the competition? Or is this a
bit insulting thing Number ten's coming through.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
No, I think it has the potential to be quite
a good thing. Now. A few years ago you would
have said that, because you're right, James O'Connor was the
Justin Bieber. He was eighteen years old playing for the
Wallaby seventeen years old playing super rugby then. Just as
rock and roll stars do he had his issues, as
he's freely confessed, he had issues with prescription drugs and cocaine.
He got kicked out of various teams because his teammates
(03:16):
didn't particularly like him. But the big thing and the
reason I'm guessing that Rob Penny and the Crusaders chased
him was with the Reds this year Lee's kissed. The
coach of the Reds couldn't speak highly enough of O kind.
He's thirty four years old now, so hopefully all that
silly crap that he went through when he was in
his twenties, when he was patently behaved kind of like
(03:40):
a jerk, all that's in the rear view mirror, and
he is a hell of a good football player, So
it will be fascinating to see whether it works or not.
I am leaning about fifty five to forty five that
it will work.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
I still remember him making his debut. I mean, in
my head, he's still that at seventeen, eighteen year old,
Like he's just one of those players that has never aged.
But I just hope he has more luck than Lee
half Penny. You know, he was the one who came
into Super Rugg who got my excitement about super Rugby
back and then I think he played what one game?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So I suppose to James Marshall yesterday and he said
he's such a stand up guy. And he said, Darcy,
when you start interviewing and when we start seeing more
than around here, he'll become a fan favorite.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
He really is a wonderful character.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
And Phil, what you said about him finally dismissing the
woes and the eras and the drama of his early days.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
That's like most people said.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I started being troublesome at seventeen and didn't drop that
till I became a dad at forty one.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
So he's some bit that I have. I'm welcoming.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I'm interested to see what happens, and I just hope
he is the number three and he does help these
young guys actually move up the ladder, not dominate.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
They need it.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, I think they do as well. We're going to
come back with more from our all Star panel. It's Rowena,
crawl over the desk and belt you if you talk
about farming again, Duncan and Phil who just sits there
and smiles because.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
He can't reach me from where he is. It's twenty
minutes to night.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
What are you seeing dos enery mind the first time,
for the first.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Time seventeen away from nine All Star panel myself for
in a Duncan and Phil Gifford.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Let's hit this segment running with Rowena Duncan. Tell me
about who's coming next?
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Tell me about Leavinton?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Yeah, well interesting one obviously coming back for the Black Clash.
I can't look past Chris Gale for the Black Clash though,
I mean, don't blush baby, best comment and sporty, but
but look, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
He was big enough to join me on the program
and talk to me about it, which is amazing.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Couldn't get a hold of Loos.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Though, amazing, So jealous anyway, I need to put that
behind me. Luvinton done a substantial amount of time for it.
He wasn't the only guilty party in it.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
We know all of that.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
But you know, removing him from cricket achieves nothing. He
actually offers so much to the sport and talking about
match fixing, in my mind, only serves to help educate
players instead of leaving them vulnerable to things like that.
If it's just you know, I swept under the carpet
and not talked about. Besides it's a game that has
no bearing on anyone's career. And just back to Chris Gale,
(06:23):
I've been talking about.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
It's been quiet.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
He's been active in the space style of saying, hey,
I made a massive mistake, don't do this.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
But Phil who beans anybody for eleven lifetimes?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, well exactly. I mean one of the things, yeah,
a little bit, a little bit over kill. Sounds like
the sort of sentences they passing states like Mississippi and America.
But anyway, but I mean, one of the things about
Kiwi's I think, just quickly about leu Vincent is that
I do believe, you know, we have some odd sort
of traits of Kiwi's bless our hearts. But I do
(06:56):
believe that if you own up to something, if you
say I got this wrong, I'm a guilty party here.
I shouldn't have done this. Kiwi's buy and large, I
truly belie it can be fairly forgiving. And that's the
key issue with lou Vincent. If he'd tried to pretend,
oh what me was that Jaco over there? Oh, I
know I got the phone called by mistake, then I
don't think people would be anywhere nearest forgiving, but God almighty,
(07:19):
it's a decade since he was banned for quote life
and life and life and life and life. It's a
decade since the band came in, and I think he
absolutely deserves the second chance. And he's in his mid forties,
so with all due respect, I doubt very much he's
going to be rushed into a New Zealand team. So
let the guy enjoy a bit of fun. And there
appears to be universal pleasure from his former teammates the
(07:44):
fact that he's coming back into the game, but also.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
How refreshing is it to actually see someone own it
and not stand behind lawyers, and not stand behind excuses
and lies basically and actually front foot. I think that
is a great role model for young sporting people.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's been ex in that space too. He's been to schools,
been he's talked to people. This is right across not
just necessarily other sports. Hey watch it and you can
get sucked in really fast and before you know it,
you're in up to your nostrils.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
How do you get out of this? And that's what's
a tyranny, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Match fixing and knowing near as obvious as it was
then as it is now.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Who knows who's involved, but there's a lesson, but eleven
life eleven.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
They dig them up, revive them, and then pan them
again for a hundred years.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Oh my lord. Anyway, let's let's move away from that.
It's going to be good.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
THO.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You're gonna be down at the black class. Aren't you
got a front row seats?
Speaker 5 (08:35):
I just want to meet Chris Can. I just want
to meet anyone can hook me up.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I've got his phone number. You know that, don't you know?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I talked to him?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Not still fin the grace stems. This is an awful story.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Yeah, it absolutely is. Obviously heartbreaking, twenty six still with
so much to offer the sport. Look, I can't believe.
I can't begin to imagine how excruciating a decision it
was to walk away, really at her prime. But in
the same vein also how easy, like that was the
only option. And you've got to look at how far
have come. Not that long ago, we wouldn't have known
(09:09):
what we know now. She would have kept playing, and
who knows how much damage she would have done. So
her statement really summed it up for me. Grateful that
my health is still intact, and we found out before
it was too late because so many players didn't get that.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
If you missed, I was going to introduce this properly,
but I just about cough and my breakfast out all
ouder the floor, so Rogeous climbed on and started doing that.
Grace Steinmitz discovered she had a brain injury and it
could have killed her if she carried on playing, so
she chose at twenty six.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
To walk away.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And that is the positive, isn't it feel that she
found out it wasn't a case of eye should have
stopped playing last year?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, exactly, mate, And I mean looks one of the
things that I feel in the discussion, and the more
discussions we have, the better about this because it's such
a crucial issue about brain damage and about potential loss
of health in later life as well or in this
case possibly even God for the death. Is that you've
got to be honest about it. And so you know,
(10:07):
concussion in itself is kind of a brain injury because
it's bruising of the brainers.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
It is.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, it is a brain injury, and so you don't
fall around with those sort of things. And yes, for
gray Steinmetz on the one hand, devastated for the young
woman because she's very obviously, very gifted player. On the
other hand, like you guys, I'm so glad that it
was caught, that she stopped, and that somewhere, a long,
(10:35):
long long way down the track, she'll be around to
enjoy other parts of life other than other than rugby.
And the fact being around as the keywords there absolutely
it is.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Hey, let's talk about what happened this morning. I don't
think Rowena anyone. I did a little editorial.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
About the fact that like the silver Ferns are looking
down the bowl right, they've lost a couple of ant
home to angler Ah, the black Ferns got monstered by
eye and now they've got British coming up. It's like,
out of the three teams I thought, definitely the one
that won't win is the white Ferns after their record
and what do they do phil they turned up that
it just beat the Indians. They so much the mate,
(11:16):
it was so overpowered. I watched the second half because
the plenty I had to get some ugly sleep, but
I'm sitting there watching it going wow.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Because they always said we're close, we are close. No,
we never believe now like ten in a row, get
out of here.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Really you're closer, Yeah, we're close ten times in the raw.
They think we scraped through with a practice game, didn't we?
But this is the most extraordinary reversal of form. I'm
really hard pressed. I mean, I hate to bring it
up again, but it does remind me a tiny bit
of Ireland beating a women's rugby team, you know, I mean,
this is who the hell would have expected this and
(11:51):
so but you've got to say, if there was a
breakthrough waiting to happen, then the breakthrough has been made.
And maybe you were road Dice. Maybe we are on
the verge and we are about to witness a glorious
absolute march to triumphs and the women twenty World Cup.
I hope we are.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Well, here's the important thing, ro that we've got the
old stages, that the women that provide that play very
very well, and we know who they are, and when
they don't, the team falls apart. But suddenly now we're
starting to see this generation coming through. Georgia Plummet has
been in great forms. She's starting to want it. Divines off,
he slips down the order a wee bit Rosman Mayor
(12:29):
with the ball. So we're actually finally starting to see
some of the next generation come through and succeed.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
To me, that's probably the best thing about this result.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Oh absolutely, And just listening to Leo to who who
chatting with you earlier this morning and stuff, and just
being so proud of the team for not giving up,
for you know, even though the media has been against them,
the fans have been you know quite well, we've.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Been against and we've been saying what we've been really
we love them and they accept that.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
We're rubbish.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
It doesn't save anyone any purpose if we're pumping up
their tires for no reason at all. But you know
that the narrative has been realistically negative. But in the background,
I've just been working. They've been working their butts off
and you don't get a result like that if you
haven't been working your butts off.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Score runs, take wickets, don't grass catches massively important. That
one a one last thing before we let you both go,
just quick. I see that Oil Britannia have got through
to the final against team in New Zealand America's Cup.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It finally starts. Are you going to start getting up
at midnight now.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Phil, No, but I'll start recording at midnight, to be honest,
it's just very quickly. I the America's Cup. I don't
actually because I'm because I'm not a YACHTI bizarrely having
lived so much of my life in all and some
of the mates are yachties, but because I'm not one,
I only really get reaped up by the America's Cup
when it hit the finals. So I'm really looking forward
(13:56):
to the final.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Because keywis we love to hate Jimmy Spetial Bye by Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, it's kind of my favorite. You got a love
of villain, don't you? Possibly one of the best villains
in sport. Ever, can you name another one, Phil, a
villain in sport with that much cut through and success?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I can't think of a competitor. L And Jimes the
ex Swallowby's. Yes, he's actually a good play but was
a villain while he played. Very true.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Producer Duffs just chimed him with Quaid Cooper. Now it's
getting a bit match. You stop rolling a quite bit
like that. Hey we're gonna We're gonna fly field Difford
as always, thanks for your time, your expertise, your humor,
your patients saying goes with you. Ronna Duncan, thanks for
joining us. This is News Talks EB eight minutes away
from nine on the All Sport Breakfast, Jason Pine up
(14:46):
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Speaker 1 (14:54):
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Wildgrave from News Talks be All Sports Breakfast All Star Panel.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Part of her All Star panels Phil Gifford, he joins
us now.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Hello Phil, Yes, hello, right.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Romine and Duncan knows more than her fair share about
things around the farm.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Well, you're definitely wrong, Dars, because it's daylight saving, not
daylight savings. There is no less on the end of it,
and there is a bug beer of.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
No.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I want to cawl across the desk. But like the cows,
can't tell the time, so that doesn't bother them.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Well, their body clock can tell the time. I milked
an hour earlier yesterday, but there's milk out of my body.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
It's the humans that are complaining. Is they're going to
change what they do to keep up with the cow.
The cow doesn't care.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
The cow does care.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
No, no, because the cow can't tell.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
The cow just wants the same thing at the same
time every day according to their body clot Do it
for the.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Cow, don't mean twenty four I fill it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Talk about some sports that on rugby chair Dame at
Patsy Ready did what she said.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
For that, I applaud her film.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, it had to happen. It took a while. It
was what it was back in March, I think where
she said that if they couldn't work out a deal
then she would step down. So yeah, I mean, I'm
with you, Dars. I think if you say you're going
to do something, then you have to do it. I'm
still fascinated by what's going to happen here because after
that enormous report on the governance of New Zealand Rugby,
(01:36):
there's been changes, there's been some compromise and so on,
and Dame Patsy her role in Rugby hasn't finished, of course,
because she's going to.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
Be part of the group that basically puts into another
group that's going to suggest another group that should actually
run and think as long as that other group is
approved by all of the provincial unions.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
My god, this is more complicated than milking cows.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's absolutely ridiculous. You know all about this Rowena Duncan.
I think perhaps she's pain he said, yep, this is
what I said, So I'm going to do it. I
think under the cover she's gone. God, I hate being
involved with rugby.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I'm out. I can't wait to get out of the
sick Well.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
This has been one of the most disruptive passages in
rugby's history, so obviously there need to be some big changes.
So yeah, good on her fast following through on what
she said she would, because it was very open to
interpretation there for a while if she was going to
or not.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, it was that's politics, that's rugby. Welcome to the mess.
Let's move away to that, move to proper rugby, actually
out of the boardroom, actually on the park. James O'Connor, Phil,
we've got little Justin Bieber. I shouldn't say that he's
grown man now. He's been playing for a long time
and he's definitely matured. Is this good for the Crusaders?
(02:49):
Is this good for the competition? Or is this a
bit insulting thing Number ten's coming through.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
No, I think it has the potential to be quite
a good thing. Now. A few years ago you would
have said that, because you're right, James O'Connor was the
Justin Bieber. He was eighteen years old playing for the
Wallaby seventeen years old playing super rugby then. Just as
rock and roll stars do he had his issues, as
he's freely confessed, he had issues with prescription drugs and cocaine.
He got kicked out of various teams because his teammates
(03:16):
didn't particularly like him. But the big thing and the
reason I'm guessing that Rob Penny and the Crusaders chased
him was with the Reds this year Lee's kissed. The
coach of the Reds couldn't speak highly enough of O kind.
He's thirty four years old now, so hopefully all that
silly crap that he went through when he was in
his twenties, when he was patently behaved kind of like
(03:40):
a jerk, all that's in the rear view mirror, and
he is a hell of a good football player, So
it will be fascinating to see whether it works or not.
I am leaning about fifty five to forty five that
it will work.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
I still remember him making his debut. I mean, in
my head, he's still that at seventeen, eighteen year old,
Like he's just one of those players that has never aged.
But I just hope he has more luck than Lee
half Penny. You know, he was the one who came
into Super Rugg who got my excitement about super Rugby
back and then I think he played what one game?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So I suppose to James Marshall yesterday and he said
he's such a stand up guy. And he said, Darcy,
when you start interviewing and when we start seeing more
than around here, he'll become a fan favorite.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
He really is a wonderful character.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
And Phil, what you said about him finally dismissing the
woes and the eras and the drama of his early days.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
That's like most people said.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I started being troublesome at seventeen and didn't drop that
till I became a dad at forty one.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
So he's some bit that I have. I'm welcoming.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I'm interested to see what happens, and I just hope
he is the number three and he does help these
young guys actually move up the ladder, not dominate.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
They need it.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, I think they do as well. We're going to
come back with more from our all Star panel. It's Rowena,
crawl over the desk and belt you if you talk
about farming again, Duncan and Phil who just sits there
and smiles because.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
He can't reach me from where he is. It's twenty
minutes to night.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
What are you seeing dos enery mind the first time,
for the first.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Time seventeen away from nine All Star panel myself for
in a Duncan and Phil Gifford.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Let's hit this segment running with Rowena Duncan. Tell me
about who's coming next?
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Tell me about Leavinton?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Yeah, well interesting one obviously coming back for the Black Clash.
I can't look past Chris Gale for the Black Clash though,
I mean, don't blush baby, best comment and sporty, but
but look, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
He was big enough to join me on the program
and talk to me about it, which is amazing.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Couldn't get a hold of Loos.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Though, amazing, So jealous anyway, I need to put that
behind me. Luvinton done a substantial amount of time for it.
He wasn't the only guilty party in it.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
We know all of that.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
But you know, removing him from cricket achieves nothing. He
actually offers so much to the sport and talking about
match fixing, in my mind, only serves to help educate
players instead of leaving them vulnerable to things like that.
If it's just you know, I swept under the carpet
and not talked about. Besides it's a game that has
no bearing on anyone's career. And just back to Chris Gale,
(06:23):
I've been talking about.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
It's been quiet.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
He's been active in the space style of saying, hey,
I made a massive mistake, don't do this.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
But Phil who beans anybody for eleven lifetimes?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, well exactly. I mean one of the things, yeah,
a little bit, a little bit over kill. Sounds like
the sort of sentences they passing states like Mississippi and America.
But anyway, but I mean, one of the things about
Kiwi's I think, just quickly about leu Vincent is that
I do believe, you know, we have some odd sort
of traits of Kiwi's bless our hearts. But I do
(06:56):
believe that if you own up to something, if you
say I got this wrong, I'm a guilty party here.
I shouldn't have done this. Kiwi's buy and large, I
truly belie it can be fairly forgiving. And that's the
key issue with lou Vincent. If he'd tried to pretend,
oh what me was that Jaco over there? Oh, I
know I got the phone called by mistake, then I
don't think people would be anywhere nearest forgiving, but God almighty,
(07:19):
it's a decade since he was banned for quote life
and life and life and life and life. It's a
decade since the band came in, and I think he
absolutely deserves the second chance. And he's in his mid forties,
so with all due respect, I doubt very much he's
going to be rushed into a New Zealand team. So
let the guy enjoy a bit of fun. And there
appears to be universal pleasure from his former teammates the
(07:44):
fact that he's coming back into the game, but also.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
How refreshing is it to actually see someone own it
and not stand behind lawyers, and not stand behind excuses
and lies basically and actually front foot. I think that
is a great role model for young sporting people.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's been ex in that space too. He's been to schools,
been he's talked to people. This is right across not
just necessarily other sports. Hey watch it and you can
get sucked in really fast and before you know it,
you're in up to your nostrils.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
How do you get out of this? And that's what's
a tyranny, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Match fixing and knowing near as obvious as it was
then as it is now.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Who knows who's involved, but there's a lesson, but eleven
life eleven.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
They dig them up, revive them, and then pan them
again for a hundred years.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Oh my lord. Anyway, let's let's move away from that.
It's going to be good.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
THO.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You're gonna be down at the black class. Aren't you
got a front row seats?
Speaker 5 (08:35):
I just want to meet Chris Can. I just want
to meet anyone can hook me up.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I've got his phone number. You know that, don't you know?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I talked to him?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Not still fin the grace stems. This is an awful story.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Yeah, it absolutely is. Obviously heartbreaking, twenty six still with
so much to offer the sport. Look, I can't believe.
I can't begin to imagine how excruciating a decision it
was to walk away, really at her prime. But in
the same vein also how easy, like that was the
only option. And you've got to look at how far
have come. Not that long ago, we wouldn't have known
(09:09):
what we know now. She would have kept playing, and
who knows how much damage she would have done. So
her statement really summed it up for me. Grateful that
my health is still intact, and we found out before
it was too late because so many players didn't get that.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
If you missed, I was going to introduce this properly,
but I just about cough and my breakfast out all
ouder the floor, so Rogeous climbed on and started doing that.
Grace Steinmitz discovered she had a brain injury and it
could have killed her if she carried on playing, so
she chose at twenty six.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
To walk away.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And that is the positive, isn't it feel that she
found out it wasn't a case of eye should have
stopped playing last year?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, exactly, mate, And I mean looks one of the
things that I feel in the discussion, and the more
discussions we have, the better about this because it's such
a crucial issue about brain damage and about potential loss
of health in later life as well or in this
case possibly even God for the death. Is that you've
got to be honest about it. And so you know,
(10:07):
concussion in itself is kind of a brain injury because
it's bruising of the brainers.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
It is.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, it is a brain injury, and so you don't
fall around with those sort of things. And yes, for
gray Steinmetz on the one hand, devastated for the young
woman because she's very obviously, very gifted player. On the
other hand, like you guys, I'm so glad that it
was caught, that she stopped, and that somewhere, a long,
(10:35):
long long way down the track, she'll be around to
enjoy other parts of life other than other than rugby.
And the fact being around as the keywords there absolutely
it is.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Hey, let's talk about what happened this morning. I don't
think Rowena anyone. I did a little editorial.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
About the fact that like the silver Ferns are looking
down the bowl right, they've lost a couple of ant
home to angler Ah, the black Ferns got monstered by
eye and now they've got British coming up. It's like,
out of the three teams I thought, definitely the one
that won't win is the white Ferns after their record
and what do they do phil they turned up that
it just beat the Indians. They so much the mate,
(11:16):
it was so overpowered. I watched the second half because
the plenty I had to get some ugly sleep, but
I'm sitting there watching it going wow.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Because they always said we're close, we are close. No,
we never believe now like ten in a row, get
out of here.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Really you're closer, Yeah, we're close ten times in the raw.
They think we scraped through with a practice game, didn't we?
But this is the most extraordinary reversal of form. I'm
really hard pressed. I mean, I hate to bring it
up again, but it does remind me a tiny bit
of Ireland beating a women's rugby team, you know, I mean,
this is who the hell would have expected this and
(11:51):
so but you've got to say, if there was a
breakthrough waiting to happen, then the breakthrough has been made.
And maybe you were road Dice. Maybe we are on
the verge and we are about to witness a glorious
absolute march to triumphs and the women twenty World Cup.
I hope we are.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Well, here's the important thing, ro that we've got the
old stages, that the women that provide that play very
very well, and we know who they are, and when
they don't, the team falls apart. But suddenly now we're
starting to see this generation coming through. Georgia Plummet has
been in great forms. She's starting to want it. Divines off,
he slips down the order a wee bit Rosman Mayor
(12:29):
with the ball. So we're actually finally starting to see
some of the next generation come through and succeed.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
To me, that's probably the best thing about this result.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Oh absolutely, And just listening to Leo to who who
chatting with you earlier this morning and stuff, and just
being so proud of the team for not giving up,
for you know, even though the media has been against them,
the fans have been you know quite well, we've.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Been against and we've been saying what we've been really
we love them and they accept that.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
We're rubbish.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
It doesn't save anyone any purpose if we're pumping up
their tires for no reason at all. But you know
that the narrative has been realistically negative. But in the background,
I've just been working. They've been working their butts off
and you don't get a result like that if you
haven't been working your butts off.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Score runs, take wickets, don't grass catches massively important. That
one a one last thing before we let you both go,
just quick. I see that Oil Britannia have got through
to the final against team in New Zealand America's Cup.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It finally starts. Are you going to start getting up
at midnight now.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Phil, No, but I'll start recording at midnight, to be honest,
it's just very quickly. I the America's Cup. I don't
actually because I'm because I'm not a YACHTI bizarrely having
lived so much of my life in all and some
of the mates are yachties, but because I'm not one,
I only really get reaped up by the America's Cup
when it hit the finals. So I'm really looking forward
(13:56):
to the final.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Because keywis we love to hate Jimmy Spetial Bye by Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, it's kind of my favorite. You got a love
of villain, don't you? Possibly one of the best villains
in sport. Ever, can you name another one, Phil, a
villain in sport with that much cut through and success?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I can't think of a competitor. L And Jimes the
ex Swallowby's. Yes, he's actually a good play but was
a villain while he played. Very true.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Producer Duffs just chimed him with Quaid Cooper. Now it's
getting a bit match. You stop rolling a quite bit
like that. Hey we're gonna We're gonna fly field Difford
as always, thanks for your time, your expertise, your humor,
your patients saying goes with you. Ronna Duncan, thanks for
joining us. This is News Talks EB eight minutes away
from nine on the All Sport Breakfast, Jason Pine up
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