February 28, 2025 • 15 mins
The latest edition of 'The All-Star Panel' consists of Rugby Commentator Hamish McKay and Herald Rugby writer Phil Gifford.
On this weekend's agenda... What do people make of Caleb Clarkes' incident, why is the NRL taking its product to Vegas, and the Sky TV chair opens up on rugby rights and DAZN threat.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldgrave from News Talk SEDB All Sports Breakfast, All Star
Panel and.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
On our All Star Panel. As I said, we had
Amish and Phil. It's climbing to Hamish McKay right here,
right now, my na amos, a's a week gone.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So far right.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Oh, this has been fantastic listening to all that talk
about round the Bays. Actually after a bit of a
you know, I've had a bit of a hibernation from
fitness and I was on my bike for an hour
and forty minutes this week and I discovered the Dick
Quax Memorial bike walk and over on the Temicky History.
So I'm fighting fit actually to be fair, Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'm stunned.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Good on you.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
No, I'm not stunned because you. I'm just stunned anyone
would do anything like that. Let's stop the round the bays.
We've got Phil Giffor who's going to join us around
the table?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Good?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I fill?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
How are you good, very good, good as gold? As
I say in the clossic, Yeah they do, amos.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
What are you good as good as good as good.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Fit as a cracker? Are the crackers my old man
used to say, yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Okay, let's climb on into the subjects. Djure if you
will have the massive weekends, but it never changes only
if a Christmas things get a flat but flat, don't they?
But besides that, it's huge. Let's talk up about Caleb
Clark fleeing from the Auckland police. Now, amous, you don't
want to read about this. I'm sure there's more to come.
(01:35):
You don't freak out and run away from the cops
if you've done nothing wrong, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Look, I just you know, obviously there answers our sort
of a question around the fantasy rugby thing from a
few weeks ago as to what sort of been going
on there. You know, you try and walk in every
sort of early twenty year old's mind and go back
to your own days and the things you would have done.
But one hundred and ten kilometers an hour through residential areas,
(02:04):
I mean, not only are you risking everybody else, you're
risking yourself. And it's look, look, I just he comes
from fabulous family, good stock, The right support will be
around him. It probably still needs to get hit by
the book.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Fill climb on in yourself, where does this go. I
would say that I would like to look back to
my irresponsible youth, but quite frankly, I can't remember my twenties.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I can't go back. What do they say I fell
to either you remember the sixties you weren't there, but
just just very quickly look. Obviously, as Hamer said, the
potential of a tragedy was extraordinary in this, But I
also say that it was as I think it might
have been for quite a few people. I don't I
(02:51):
know Ronnie Clarke a bit on a personal level. I've
never had a one on one with Cala Clark, but
I've got to say, of all the people in the
Blue Squad, he's one of them. To me, would be
one of the least likely people to be having headlines
like there's one hundred and ten cas and residential era,
a residential area running away from the police, of all things.
(03:12):
What will be fascinating now will be how the courts
will take it, because there is a potential, if he's convicted, obviously,
for him to have difficulty traveling to certain countries, whether
to either play professionally for a club or to play
for the All Blacks. But either way, this is just
(03:33):
one of the most weird things you could ever imagine.
And yes, can I just say, I do have a
vague memory of myself in those late teens and early twenties.
And one of the things that this is not an
anyway an excuse or trying to for CAYLEB Clark at all,
because this was really bad behavior. But if I was
(03:53):
if when I was seventy or eighteen, I was being
paid to play rugby, and then by the time I
was in my twenties, I was on a quarter of
million dollars a year, I'm not quite sure I would
have behaved that. In short, that what amazes me is
not that occasionally players in this case Caleb Clark behave badly,
but that a lot more, don't.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
That's a point for you. Yeah, I'm with you on that. No,
I've meant Caleb a couple of times. It's super super
good bloke. But super good blokes doesn't necessarily mean say
they make And so what do they say that snasvak
make poor decisions? There's still more to come. Let's walk away, though, Well,
let's speed away at one hundred k from Caleb Clark
and go to Vegas. Baby, Hey, miss McKay. I still
(04:37):
can't work out what they're doing over there. We know
Verlanders is a gambler. That's the only reason they're there.
Is this even going to make a dent a splash
in the American sports scene?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Doesn't matter?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I might briefly, you know, for twenty four minutes, not
even twenty four hours, I've been I don't even I've
failed to remember who they're actually going to be playing
up there, and who our starting team might be. My
focus has been on all the sort of like the
day tripping out the out the Grand Canyon and everything,
and yeah, look at what I don't say.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
It's just it's just.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
This sort of a great well, it conjures up a
lot of publicity, doesn't around the start of the proper
of the NRL season, So nothing more than that. Really,
I can't see it having any impact over there. I mean,
we talk about California. If you look at the other
code rugby union, it's the biggest rugby playing country in
the world, isn't it. Still A film might go to
(05:32):
correct me on that, but but it doesn't have any
cat through, does it really? In the overall scene with
their with their three or four big sports, so it'd
be fun to be there, and I don't know that
referring to sort of that early Twentiesanus Macay or Phil
giff It again, I hate to think how I'd travel
there when you look at some of the things that
could potentially go wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well, I've only just left the early twenty so I'm lying.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Its true true look.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
One of the things about it is this this whole
business about and it's very interesting. There's some big is
because obviously rugby league is huge in Sydney and the
Sydney Morning Herald has Ransom has been running some fascinating
stories Peter Vilandi because it's basically just an ego trip
for him, but it does give good pr in Australia,
in New Zealand. It means nothing in America. Last year
(06:21):
he was talking that tens of millions of people would
be watching him on television, and then, to his embarrassment,
the figures came in and in total, fifty thousand, that's
five fifty thousand, not fifty million. Fifty thousand people bothered
to watch it on television. It makes absolutely no impact
and the people that matter in Las Vegas are the bookies.
And there's another story in the Sydney Morning Herald today
(06:44):
saying that the guy went around and asked six bookies
in Vegas what the odds were on the Warriors Canberra game,
and the guy well, on the whole on the two
NRAL games we played over there, and one of them said,
is that a soccer game? And the other one said
rugby league? Don't is that the All Backs playing? So
in actual fact, to say it's about an impact in
(07:07):
America is absolute nonsense. But lovely trip for the boys,
and we pay a lot more attention to it here
than anybody bothers in the States.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
As the Beast Boys once said, it's a nice place
to visit, but a better place to rob go Vegas.
Gifford and mackay are All Star Panel back with more
chat next here on new Still ZBA forty four Bias
(07:37):
All Star Panel Hames McKay and Phil Gifford talking big
sports stories of the day. Hamish rights for rugby doesn't
get much bigger than that. This is days of our lives.
This is soap opera stuff. I get your popcorn, sit
back and see it. Philip Bowman's come out. Sky TV
chairman talking about the negotiations and how they operate fairly carefully.
(08:01):
I think it is the word it's been used in there.
This is a delicate time for both ends that are
and for Sky. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, well I think one one that holds all the aces,
and I might look. I asked myself the question the
forty nine ninety five. I think it is that I
part with each month for Sky Sport. Now would I
do it without any Rugby? And I thought to myself, yeah,
across Grand Prix NRL Cricket returning, Yes I would. But
(08:32):
I think you'll see a lot of people who buy
the overall might dump it pretty quickly if there's no rugby.
But I think you'll possibly, you know, maybe the wheeling
and dealing will see the spread over. You know, you
know a number of potential broadcasters. But at the end
of the day, I think, at the end of the
day's style will have to pull out every last track
(08:53):
to make sure that they have it, because I think
that ultimately that's what underpins their business. Lose it and
it'll be seriously undermined.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I feel. I had John Phillotte from a CEO of
on air earlier this week and he said that that
is their biggest property, the All Blacks. That's the one
they've got. They need to hold on to it. It's
so important for them to hang everything else on on
the the hook of rugby union.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, totally darth. I mean obviously John Pollette, who was
there for years, would certainly know what he was talking about.
And I look, I agree with them one hundred percent.
And look, for me, from a purely selfish point of view,
I'd be devastated. If it not devastated, that's too strong,
I'd be upset of it. Less Sky, Yeah, I just
(09:40):
keep having to find and the so called English bid
for it sounds really, really hazy to me, And it's
the sort of thing that you feel as dreamed up.
And there I mentioned the word silver lake. But silver Lake,
we're going to offer all sorts of magnificent opportunities for
New Zealand rugby and it's two fifths of not much
(10:02):
so far, I think. But if they if Sky don't have,
if Sky do not have Rugby, then I think not me.
I'mke hamish. But on the other hand, I think an
awful lot of people would say I can't be bothered
with this because it's the all black rugby and the
super rugby and so on. That's the key still in
(10:23):
New Zealand, even though there's a chorus all the time
saying that rugby is dead and buried in this country
like hell it is. As far as television audiences go,
still easily the biggest TV audiences are with rugby.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, reports of the demise of rugby being greatly exaggerated.
A great man kind of said once, let's move on
to our next subject, though, we'll stick with rugby. Hamish
black ferns dominate these clashes here Opicky starts today back
on it again, And we had Eli Soap on the
show last night. Well worth a listen to Alice around
(10:58):
what she thinks of the landscape of women's rugby and
where it sits right now, the changes it's going through,
and where it has to go to and this is
all the key. Are you buying into this, AMers? Does
I really enjoy open It's a different style of rugby.
It doesn't make it any less entertaining, though.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Look I enjoy it because that reminds an I don't
know what terminology you use. Is that old school or
the way rugby perhaps used to be play I thoroughly
enjoy it. And I suppose we're going into another World
Cup cycle now we must be pretty close to that,
so that's interesting to see. Who's going to put their
hands up? No, look, I'll watch it. And I'm sad
(11:43):
and disappointed that we haven't had the numbers, the viewership
numbers and the turn up at the grounds off the
back of a women's.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Rugby World Cup.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
But no, I look, let's let look I and you
recognize enough of these names and looks. I find it
a thoroughly enjoyable brand of rugby to watch. Unless it's
less of that sort of fifteen men spread across the field.
It's more more sort of eight forwards in seven backs.
(12:15):
As it's a style of rugby that we used to
kind of enjoy. Well, everybody, you didn't get to a rack,
and the old days, if you didn't get to a rack,
you know, or a more you were you were seagulling.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well you were giving it Sean Fitzpatrick and hanging out
on the wing. I don't believe I did. So. I
like the way they run at gaps. It's not all
about primary collision. But a lot of the pack would say,
you know, we love running over people. But the World
Cup is on this year. The title phil is to
be defended by the Black Ferns after outstanding burglary of
(12:52):
the title right on right in front of me, actually
my daughter in that line out. There's a lot to
play for because, as Ali said to me last night,
the amount of tickets have sold for this already through
the roof. They're already sold at the final. It took
him who know who's going to be there. This is
a massive event to aim at, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Absolutely? Mate? And look, let's face it, the Black Ferns.
You'd need a heart of stone not to have fallen
in love with them during the World Cup here because
they were everything you'd hopeful. They played brilliant footy, they
won the thing, and they also presented off the field
without any hint of pr gloss or everything as one
of the most likable, friendly, decent, intelligent group of sportspeople
(13:35):
you could ever strike. My hope for them at the
will Cart in August is simply this that if you
look back on when we won it the last time
and became the defending champions, we included they well. Wayne
Smith as the last second coach included a lot of
brilliant players from the seventh team and some really fairly
(13:58):
average results they've had in the last couple of years.
The Black Ferns. The team hasn't included players from that
because I've got to say that women the sevens team
is just fantastic to watch. You put some of those
superstars from out of the sevens team into our fifteen
team and then fingers crossed. You never know that maybe
a sellout crowd at tricking them singing Swing Laves, Sweet Chariot,
(14:20):
What a shame we lost as they leave the ground.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I would like that very much. Phil Gifford, thank you
very much for your time, your expertise, your love and
your gold. Same with you, Hamies Mackay you boys have
a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Uh, thank you too.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah Ah The Fighters of Food. It is six minutes
to nine. Jason Pine, he's in the area. He's up
here calling football Hugain. You'll join us next to tell
us what's happening on his program between twelve and three
weekends Sport Jason Pine. That's coming up next here on
New Still's thereb
Speaker 1 (15:01):
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Waldgrave from News Talk SEDB All Sports Breakfast, All Star
Panel and.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
On our All Star Panel. As I said, we had
Amish and Phil. It's climbing to Hamish McKay right here,
right now, my na amos, a's a week gone.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So far right.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Oh, this has been fantastic listening to all that talk
about round the Bays. Actually after a bit of a
you know, I've had a bit of a hibernation from
fitness and I was on my bike for an hour
and forty minutes this week and I discovered the Dick
Quax Memorial bike walk and over on the Temicky History.
So I'm fighting fit actually to be fair, Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'm stunned.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Good on you.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
No, I'm not stunned because you. I'm just stunned anyone
would do anything like that. Let's stop the round the bays.
We've got Phil Giffor who's going to join us around
the table?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Good?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I fill?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
How are you good, very good, good as gold? As
I say in the clossic, Yeah they do, amos.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
What are you good as good as good as good.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Fit as a cracker? Are the crackers my old man
used to say, yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Okay, let's climb on into the subjects. Djure if you
will have the massive weekends, but it never changes only
if a Christmas things get a flat but flat, don't they?
But besides that, it's huge. Let's talk up about Caleb
Clark fleeing from the Auckland police. Now, amous, you don't
want to read about this. I'm sure there's more to come.
(01:35):
You don't freak out and run away from the cops
if you've done nothing wrong, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Look, I just you know, obviously there answers our sort
of a question around the fantasy rugby thing from a
few weeks ago as to what sort of been going
on there. You know, you try and walk in every
sort of early twenty year old's mind and go back
to your own days and the things you would have done.
But one hundred and ten kilometers an hour through residential areas,
(02:04):
I mean, not only are you risking everybody else, you're
risking yourself. And it's look, look, I just he comes
from fabulous family, good stock, The right support will be
around him. It probably still needs to get hit by
the book.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Fill climb on in yourself, where does this go. I
would say that I would like to look back to
my irresponsible youth, but quite frankly, I can't remember my twenties.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I can't go back. What do they say I fell
to either you remember the sixties you weren't there, but
just just very quickly look. Obviously, as Hamer said, the
potential of a tragedy was extraordinary in this, But I
also say that it was as I think it might
have been for quite a few people. I don't I
(02:51):
know Ronnie Clarke a bit on a personal level. I've
never had a one on one with Cala Clark, but
I've got to say, of all the people in the
Blue Squad, he's one of them. To me, would be
one of the least likely people to be having headlines
like there's one hundred and ten cas and residential era,
a residential area running away from the police, of all things.
(03:12):
What will be fascinating now will be how the courts
will take it, because there is a potential, if he's convicted, obviously,
for him to have difficulty traveling to certain countries, whether
to either play professionally for a club or to play
for the All Blacks. But either way, this is just
(03:33):
one of the most weird things you could ever imagine.
And yes, can I just say, I do have a
vague memory of myself in those late teens and early twenties.
And one of the things that this is not an
anyway an excuse or trying to for CAYLEB Clark at all,
because this was really bad behavior. But if I was
(03:53):
if when I was seventy or eighteen, I was being
paid to play rugby, and then by the time I
was in my twenties, I was on a quarter of
million dollars a year, I'm not quite sure I would
have behaved that. In short, that what amazes me is
not that occasionally players in this case Caleb Clark behave badly,
but that a lot more, don't.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
That's a point for you. Yeah, I'm with you on that. No,
I've meant Caleb a couple of times. It's super super
good bloke. But super good blokes doesn't necessarily mean say
they make And so what do they say that snasvak
make poor decisions? There's still more to come. Let's walk away, though, Well,
let's speed away at one hundred k from Caleb Clark
and go to Vegas. Baby, Hey, miss McKay. I still
(04:37):
can't work out what they're doing over there. We know
Verlanders is a gambler. That's the only reason they're there.
Is this even going to make a dent a splash
in the American sports scene?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Doesn't matter?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I might briefly, you know, for twenty four minutes, not
even twenty four hours, I've been I don't even I've
failed to remember who they're actually going to be playing
up there, and who our starting team might be. My
focus has been on all the sort of like the
day tripping out the out the Grand Canyon and everything,
and yeah, look at what I don't say.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
It's just it's just.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
This sort of a great well, it conjures up a
lot of publicity, doesn't around the start of the proper
of the NRL season, So nothing more than that. Really,
I can't see it having any impact over there. I mean,
we talk about California. If you look at the other
code rugby union, it's the biggest rugby playing country in
the world, isn't it. Still A film might go to
(05:32):
correct me on that, but but it doesn't have any
cat through, does it really? In the overall scene with
their with their three or four big sports, so it'd
be fun to be there, and I don't know that
referring to sort of that early Twentiesanus Macay or Phil
giff It again, I hate to think how I'd travel
there when you look at some of the things that
could potentially go wrong.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well, I've only just left the early twenty so I'm lying.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Its true true look.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
One of the things about it is this this whole
business about and it's very interesting. There's some big is
because obviously rugby league is huge in Sydney and the
Sydney Morning Herald has Ransom has been running some fascinating
stories Peter Vilandi because it's basically just an ego trip
for him, but it does give good pr in Australia,
in New Zealand. It means nothing in America. Last year
(06:21):
he was talking that tens of millions of people would
be watching him on television, and then, to his embarrassment,
the figures came in and in total, fifty thousand, that's
five fifty thousand, not fifty million. Fifty thousand people bothered
to watch it on television. It makes absolutely no impact
and the people that matter in Las Vegas are the bookies.
And there's another story in the Sydney Morning Herald today
(06:44):
saying that the guy went around and asked six bookies
in Vegas what the odds were on the Warriors Canberra game,
and the guy well, on the whole on the two
NRAL games we played over there, and one of them said,
is that a soccer game? And the other one said
rugby league? Don't is that the All Backs playing? So
in actual fact, to say it's about an impact in
(07:07):
America is absolute nonsense. But lovely trip for the boys,
and we pay a lot more attention to it here
than anybody bothers in the States.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
As the Beast Boys once said, it's a nice place
to visit, but a better place to rob go Vegas.
Gifford and mackay are All Star Panel back with more
chat next here on new Still ZBA forty four Bias
(07:37):
All Star Panel Hames McKay and Phil Gifford talking big
sports stories of the day. Hamish rights for rugby doesn't
get much bigger than that. This is days of our lives.
This is soap opera stuff. I get your popcorn, sit
back and see it. Philip Bowman's come out. Sky TV
chairman talking about the negotiations and how they operate fairly carefully.
(08:01):
I think it is the word it's been used in there.
This is a delicate time for both ends that are
and for Sky. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, well I think one one that holds all the aces,
and I might look. I asked myself the question the
forty nine ninety five. I think it is that I
part with each month for Sky Sport. Now would I
do it without any Rugby? And I thought to myself, yeah,
across Grand Prix NRL Cricket returning, Yes I would. But
(08:32):
I think you'll see a lot of people who buy
the overall might dump it pretty quickly if there's no rugby.
But I think you'll possibly, you know, maybe the wheeling
and dealing will see the spread over. You know, you
know a number of potential broadcasters. But at the end
of the day, I think, at the end of the
day's style will have to pull out every last track
(08:53):
to make sure that they have it, because I think
that ultimately that's what underpins their business. Lose it and
it'll be seriously undermined.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I feel. I had John Phillotte from a CEO of
on air earlier this week and he said that that
is their biggest property, the All Blacks. That's the one
they've got. They need to hold on to it. It's
so important for them to hang everything else on on
the the hook of rugby union.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, totally darth. I mean obviously John Pollette, who was
there for years, would certainly know what he was talking about.
And I look, I agree with them one hundred percent.
And look, for me, from a purely selfish point of view,
I'd be devastated. If it not devastated, that's too strong,
I'd be upset of it. Less Sky, Yeah, I just
(09:40):
keep having to find and the so called English bid
for it sounds really, really hazy to me, And it's
the sort of thing that you feel as dreamed up.
And there I mentioned the word silver lake. But silver Lake,
we're going to offer all sorts of magnificent opportunities for
New Zealand rugby and it's two fifths of not much
(10:02):
so far, I think. But if they if Sky don't have,
if Sky do not have Rugby, then I think not me.
I'mke hamish. But on the other hand, I think an
awful lot of people would say I can't be bothered
with this because it's the all black rugby and the
super rugby and so on. That's the key still in
(10:23):
New Zealand, even though there's a chorus all the time
saying that rugby is dead and buried in this country
like hell it is. As far as television audiences go,
still easily the biggest TV audiences are with rugby.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, reports of the demise of rugby being greatly exaggerated.
A great man kind of said once, let's move on
to our next subject, though, we'll stick with rugby. Hamish
black ferns dominate these clashes here Opicky starts today back
on it again, And we had Eli Soap on the
show last night. Well worth a listen to Alice around
(10:58):
what she thinks of the landscape of women's rugby and
where it sits right now, the changes it's going through,
and where it has to go to and this is
all the key. Are you buying into this, AMers? Does
I really enjoy open It's a different style of rugby.
It doesn't make it any less entertaining, though.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Look I enjoy it because that reminds an I don't
know what terminology you use. Is that old school or
the way rugby perhaps used to be play I thoroughly
enjoy it. And I suppose we're going into another World
Cup cycle now we must be pretty close to that,
so that's interesting to see. Who's going to put their
hands up? No, look, I'll watch it. And I'm sad
(11:43):
and disappointed that we haven't had the numbers, the viewership
numbers and the turn up at the grounds off the
back of a women's.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Rugby World Cup.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
But no, I look, let's let look I and you
recognize enough of these names and looks. I find it
a thoroughly enjoyable brand of rugby to watch. Unless it's
less of that sort of fifteen men spread across the field.
It's more more sort of eight forwards in seven backs.
(12:15):
As it's a style of rugby that we used to
kind of enjoy. Well, everybody, you didn't get to a rack,
and the old days, if you didn't get to a rack,
you know, or a more you were you were seagulling.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well you were giving it Sean Fitzpatrick and hanging out
on the wing. I don't believe I did. So. I
like the way they run at gaps. It's not all
about primary collision. But a lot of the pack would say,
you know, we love running over people. But the World
Cup is on this year. The title phil is to
be defended by the Black Ferns after outstanding burglary of
(12:52):
the title right on right in front of me, actually
my daughter in that line out. There's a lot to
play for because, as Ali said to me last night,
the amount of tickets have sold for this already through
the roof. They're already sold at the final. It took
him who know who's going to be there. This is
a massive event to aim at, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Absolutely? Mate? And look, let's face it, the Black Ferns.
You'd need a heart of stone not to have fallen
in love with them during the World Cup here because
they were everything you'd hopeful. They played brilliant footy, they
won the thing, and they also presented off the field
without any hint of pr gloss or everything as one
of the most likable, friendly, decent, intelligent group of sportspeople
(13:35):
you could ever strike. My hope for them at the
will Cart in August is simply this that if you
look back on when we won it the last time
and became the defending champions, we included they well. Wayne
Smith as the last second coach included a lot of
brilliant players from the seventh team and some really fairly
(13:58):
average results they've had in the last couple of years.
The Black Ferns. The team hasn't included players from that
because I've got to say that women the sevens team
is just fantastic to watch. You put some of those
superstars from out of the sevens team into our fifteen
team and then fingers crossed. You never know that maybe
a sellout crowd at tricking them singing Swing Laves, Sweet Chariot,
(14:20):
What a shame we lost as they leave the ground.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I would like that very much. Phil Gifford, thank you
very much for your time, your expertise, your love and
your gold. Same with you, Hamies Mackay you boys have
a great weekend.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Uh, thank you too.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah Ah The Fighters of Food. It is six minutes
to nine. Jason Pine, he's in the area. He's up
here calling football Hugain. You'll join us next to tell
us what's happening on his program between twelve and three
weekends Sport Jason Pine. That's coming up next here on
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