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August 31, 2025 37 mins

This week on The Big League Podcast - Warriors halfback Tanah Boyd opens up on getting dropped by Andrew Webster just a few weeks ago and how he's turned his game around ahead of the NRL playoffs.

Newstalk ZB's Nathan Limm and NZ Herald's Michael Burgess will react to that alleged knock-on, look ahead to the Warriors' final regular season game against Manly and evaluate their finals hopes now they've dropped to sixth.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
This week on The Big League Podcast, Warriors halfback Tanner
Boyd opens up on getting dropped by Andrew Webster just
a few weeks ago and how he's turned his game around.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
The head of the NRL.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Playoffs, Michael Burgas and I will react to that alleged
knock on, look ahead to their final regular season game
against Manly and evaluate the Warrior's finals hopes now they've
dropped to sixth.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
My name is Nathan Limb. Let's go god b LB.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
The NRL needs to have a conversation about what is
and isn't a knock on. When Demitric Viimonger's hand touched
the ball and the lead up to what would have
been the match winning try to Addam Pompey, he was
facing his own goal line. On what planet does that
mean the ball went forward? And yet when Rock o'berry
clearly knocked the ball on right at the end, that

(01:11):
was deemed okay. If the viy Among incident constitutes a
knock on, that's fine, but it needs to be consistent
throughout the rest of the game and the nrral because
otherwise you get moments like that which swing not only
a game, but potentially an entire season, and it just
feels like a lottery. Michael Burgess SENI yet New Zealand's

(01:31):
Herald writer.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Was it a knock on?

Speaker 4 (01:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
I don't know, but you mean you don't know. I
don't know. No one knows.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
That's the thing. No one can know. Came off his
hand and went backwards. I know, no one can know.
And that's the thing why.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
That's what makes the decision hard to understand, because if
you're going to overturn on field call, it's got to
be conclusive. It's got to be that's in or a
directive conclusive evidence. Otherwise often they say it's not conclusive,
we're going to stick with the on field They didn't.
A massive call obviously changes a result, and that's why
you know we're going to talk about it. But there

(02:10):
is a butt and the big butters. Obviously the Warriors
were masters their own downfall yet again. Andrew Webster said
they shouldn't have been in that position, so that hurts
as well, and the other funny thing about all this, mate,
is that if it and Pubby gets tackled to meet
it before the line and they score off the next
play instead of he goes through, it's a try and

(02:30):
they never get to look at it.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
That d D So, well, how far back do those
take it? How far back do they go?

Speaker 4 (02:35):
You don't go back before the previous play. But that's
the frustration bird is that clear knock ons happened during
the game and they're not cooled. But if a try scored,
suddenly it's a knock on, but otherwise it's not a
knock on, we don't worry about it.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Well, it's got to be like that, though, because what
you don't want is a game where the bunker is
watching every single second of every single play and stopping
the game all the time, like the ref's going to
miss the occasional thing. And I'm fine with that because
it's he's a ref, not a robot, so that's fine.
So they don't want. I don't want that situation. When
a try score, they have to look at things because

(03:12):
it's the big moment. So that's part of it. But
we're just going to wonder it might have been for
a long time about that call. Because the Warriors win
that game, they've got a much better chance of being
on the top four, and everything changes.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
But I'm not.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Saying the bunker should watch everything throughout the whole game.
I'm saying there are clear blatant knock ons happening in
front of the referee that aren't being called.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Ford off.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Zach Clomax when attempting to take a high ball in
the thirty first minute, not called blatant. Zachlomax knock on
in the tackle in front of the assisted referee by
the touch line early in the second half, not called.
But Dimitri voe Among has a little hand touched it,
so it went backwards, but we're going to call it forwards.

(03:56):
I don't mind, as I say, I don't mind the
referee missing things that happens. That happens, and we need
to just stick with human referees, not technology. So that's fine.
But yeah, the fact there is so much.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Doubt over Amonger's touch, I mean, maybe maybe it did
go forward.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
I really don't know. No one really knows. But even
if even if, okay, we say that they missed something.
So that's fine, even looking at it slow motion you're
telling me that went forward, Well, no, I mean he was.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Facing his own goal line. Goes back, mate.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
I know. That's why I asked Jason Ryles about it
in the press conference when no one else did, and
that's why I got that crazy answer from him where
he said that he said to me, what do you say,
it's a knock on every day of the week, and
then he said, I don't even know where you're asking
the question. So that was a bit of fun, but
the question had to be asked because it was such
a big moment in the game, and there's been a

(04:52):
few of those.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Let's take a listen to that extra I've taken the
audio because you did an article about this as well,
so let's hear the full exchange. This is Michael Burgess
versus the Eels coach and captain whether it's do you
think it's just to prove that the ball before.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
You want to respond to that? So I think the
referee tonight and the bunker they had a lot of
decisions to make and for me like, yeah, that's a
knock on every day of the week. But who am
I to say? But you know, sometimes you get the
calls and sometimes you don't, and we've had a lot

(05:37):
of times where we haven't got the calls. And that's
the reality. They're human in the middle and they're human
in the bunker. And but yeah, like if you ask
my pure opinion, yeah, that went forward every day of
the week, I don't even know why you're asking the question.

Speaker 7 (05:54):
Yeah, twelve a twelve four penns again, Yeah, okay, so
we don't even gone off one play, but we don't
need to go any of that.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
So but it's yeah, and you need to ask the
questions and that. But at the end of the day,
the referees are out there to do a job and
it is not.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Easy in the wrong area.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
Yeah, but there's a whole heap of other things that
I'm sure the Warriors would look at. Engage is I
think pretty that different all that matter, might have been
a different result. But if it's going to come down
to one finger touched, which went forward?

Speaker 4 (06:26):
And then, yeah, you're barking up the wrong trade. Mitchell
Moses calling you Bruzz there, Yeah, should I start calling
you bras well?

Speaker 5 (06:33):
I quite like brus. I assume it's a cross between
bro and cuz Bruz. Yeah, this could be a no thing.
I quite like it, And as I said in the article,
I like the fact that he gave an expensive answer.
He bothered to answer the question. If you didn't like it, yeah,
a lot of coaches don't, so that was great. Actually
respect him for doing that. It was quite humorous in
a way that he had to go and me barking

(06:55):
up the wrong tree. That's quite funny. But what I
did find strange is the way it was sort of like,
why are even asking the question and so obviously a
knock on? Really, Jason, is it that obvious?

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Okay, because to me there'd be I don't know, I reckon,
that be a whole lot of people out there that
think it was because yeah, it's touched his finger, and
a whole lot of saying, well, really, he's facing towards
his own goal line.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
It's not conclusive.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
So to act like it was a stone cold mate,
what are you looking at? Was quite funny. Again, to
my point, if that's a knock on, fine, but it's
got to be consistent throughout the rest of the game,
and it just wasn't. Warrior's boss Cameron George talk to
Jason pine Ony for the Weekend says he may issue
a please explain today that's Monday.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
But it's done. Now.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
We can jump up and down.

Speaker 7 (07:38):
I can reach out at the NRL, but it's not
going to bring back, you.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Know, that time the other day.

Speaker 7 (07:44):
If they could explain that tools, that'll be fantastic, but
we've got to move on.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
This is too important time of the year not to
move on.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Now we're going to hear it from Warrior's half back
Tanner Boyd next. But first, here are the highlights Eels
twenty six, Warriors twenty two, around.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Twenty six and the way here.

Speaker 8 (08:02):
So I sat up chimes away, Oh my goodness, and
this is going to be a spectaculous sure for the
Fox Tutleai bought the cat up the middle.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Here's a try. It's Jack Williams taking.

Speaker 8 (08:18):
Care of some pretty suspect of things.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
There from the Warriors boy because it's.

Speaker 8 (08:22):
Her hats up, beautiful Tannas have this coveta six, I've.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Had him toffee is Gymrigan the Moses.

Speaker 9 (08:29):
Soap cat a tay loggie.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Oh on a class youngison.

Speaker 9 (08:34):
His Harri's coveto top take to take hotas it's a try.
We ready good try try two minutes a shif boys kick,
it's gotta be cooked point here.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
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Speaker 6 (08:47):
I did that?

Speaker 3 (08:49):
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Speaker 8 (08:57):
This boyd Soppo Hang a seam that is through and
it's come on again.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Harris Covido goes highest time.

Speaker 8 (09:05):
The can't tay singer.

Speaker 9 (09:07):
That's not done this time ti on. Just hass tops.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
It gone forward? Has it gone back?

Speaker 9 (09:18):
Just confirm the link here Bucky the Eels went twenty
six to twenty two.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Audio courtesy of Sky Sports The League podcast. Michael Burgess
had a quick chat to worry his half back Tanner
Boyd after the match.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Let's take a listen.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Guess first of all ten of how tough is that
to take given what was on the line and everything else.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
That's tough.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
One.

Speaker 10 (09:40):
Yeah, just a few things we need to fix up,
and yeah, a couple of things then go away.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
But you create your own luck. And we're just wearing good.

Speaker 10 (09:48):
Enough tonight and we'll look at it and get better
and just keep taking the day by day.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
That's what we're constrained on. It looks like there was
so much effort, especially in the defense, to build momentum
and then sort of undo that momentum with some mistakes
or other things. Very frustrating.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
I mentioned there was.

Speaker 10 (10:07):
Yeah, just like I said, just few things we need
to clean up and get better at, and we will,
and yeah, you just can't afford to do that and
in this league. So yeah, we just got to move
on and ye're going to next week and keep building money.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
What do you think the issues were?

Speaker 10 (10:23):
Oh, no, just little loves in concentration, that's all it is.
We we know, we'll address it, and yeah, we're well
aware of it, and somewhere need to clean up and
then we'll give each other accountable and we will get twenty.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Five minutes to go, you twenty four down start to
come back. Did you feel like you could actually steal
it in those last you know, ten minutes or so?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (10:46):
I always had confidence and we're pretty bloody close to
so yeah, it's a hard one to take, but yeah,
you got to You've got to move on quick, and
you can't just take the learnings and just move on.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
How did you see that final decision that the Bunker
came up with to overrule and and pump his try.

Speaker 10 (11:05):
I didn't really get a good look at it. It
was it was hard to kind of see, but yeah,
because their decision can't change it now, so i'd have
to have another look at our put we see too well.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
So yeah it is what it is.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
How have the last few weeks gone for you?

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah it's been good.

Speaker 10 (11:24):
Yeah, I feel like I'm finding my feet a bit
again and building confidence and yeah, I just want to
keep going well and and I just want to just
want to win, mate, that's the most important thing.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
So yeah, it will.

Speaker 10 (11:37):
Come, and yeah we've got I've got full confidence in
this squad, and yeah, we've got good connections, so it'll come.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Because I thought you bounced back really well from being
dropped or not selected for a game, and you bounce
back the following too.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
But it must have been a hard time for you.

Speaker 10 (11:52):
Yeah it was tough, but I have a good reality
check as well and had some things to work on
and it was good.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, and I feel like I've I've I've.

Speaker 10 (12:01):
Worked on those and keep going to keep building on
it as well.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
So yeah, it was good. Tough, but would be able.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
To because people forget I guess you've only been in
this team for trying to eight nine games, Siven eight games,
it's not long.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Do you feel like.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
You're Do you feel more comfortable now guiding this team
around as a play maker?

Speaker 10 (12:22):
Yeah, definitely, yep, Yeah, I just got to keep building,
keep building combinations, and yeah, I definitely feel come to
I felt come from from the get go, and the
more I keep playing, the better we'll get. So yeah,
I'll I'll be fine, Mayton, could good.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
And what did you think of the attacking side of
things tonight?

Speaker 10 (12:41):
Yeah, now we have plenty of opportunities. I feel a
bit in nice as well, So yeah, I thought we
threw a lot at them, and yeah, a couple of
things will I'm sure we'll be able to fix up
and there's always things we can work on. So but yeah,
we threw a lot at them and we did make
a few hours, so we'll fix it up.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Mayton, we'll get back on just the final one for me.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
A word on Lecqua?

Speaker 5 (13:06):
How how freakish is the that guy to sort of
come up with tries like he does, especially the try
off your bomb where he seemed to jump like an
AFL player, you know, just just remarkable.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, he's unbelievable.

Speaker 10 (13:19):
Yeah, it comes up with some big players for us,
and yeah, a pretty special player. And you're pretty handy
to have outside of you, that's for sure. And yeah,
we don't want to put too much pressure on him.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
He's just going to keep doing his job.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
And doing it well.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
And yeah he's doing that. So yeah, I'm groud of him.

Speaker 11 (13:36):
This is going yeah, yeah, the Big League Podcast on
the Worries bandwagon since day one.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
This is the Big League Podcast.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Great to hear from Tanner Boy there Bird, good job
getting the chat. I think that might have been the
first time he's sort of opened up since getting dropped
a few weeks ago. So it's good to hear that
that had a positive effect on him and he has
played better since then.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Yeah, good point, because when he did get dropped, that
was massive. I mean it happened quite late in the week.
It's quite unusually, your heart.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
It was on game day. We didn't know, and so
he was playing U South Wales Cup.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
I think he might have been told the day before,
but it was by NERL standards, by wires standards are late,
you know. Often they're obviously told Monday Tuesday, So big moment.
Pretty rare to have a half back drop like that
he's come back.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Well, well, he's still only played six or seven games overall,
he's doing well. A different skill set to Metcalf, but
I thought he had quite a good game on the weekend.
So look he's there, he's going to do the best
job he can and for him, it's all about confidence
and I can see that. I think that confidence is increasing. Right,

(14:43):
let's go through this game in a little bit more detail.
Webster coach Andrew Webster says it was a game his
side should have won.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
And they didn't put us under any pressure, but they
had really good individual plays. You can see we got
ourselves back in a really good spot and then and
then we can see one through stupid play.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
He's spot on the money to Andrew Webster in terms
of that, your individual players definitely have. I mean josh
Ada Carr in the opening minutes when the Warriors almost
scored a try, then goes one hundred meters up the
other end and gets the eels on the board.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
But the Warriors were making again.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
It feels like we're saying this most weeks, just eras
concentration lapses, and they've talked about that during the week
and said this is the thing. We need to play
an eighty minute game. We're having these lapses in concentration
during the game, leading the side back in. And again
that's the problem this week. I mean the suspect defense
and the lead up to the second try. Four defenders
round can't remember who it was, but went straight through

(15:39):
the eels.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
I thought there was I thought there was quite a
turning point actually that second try, because the first try
at Aka runs one hundred meters to score the second one,
the Warriors are on an attack. It bounces off someone's head,
someone's leg, out of day eels, pick it up, run
away tannas our smith.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
There's an amazing chase. Prop forward chases down the parameter Sendra,
a winger sprinting away, gets him.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
They're like wow.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
Then they come back into the middle and as you say,
the second row runs through a couple of pretty weak
tackles to score. That of thing is is a real
gut punch when you've fought back, when you've scrambled so
well on defense to save the situation. And that showed
the issues. The concentration lapses are mysterious. They really are,
because Webster has talked about them a lot. I've been

(16:24):
to so many press conferences in the last second half
the season where he said if it was there, if
it was great, but we just you know, couldn't ice it.
Had these lapses. So it is mysterious when so much
on the line and you had lapses from him and
even guys like Wade Egan, which is unusual. So it
really hurts the way the way they're lost.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
I want to clarify, just in terms of my rent
at the start, that I'm not saying the Warriors the
referees were favoring the Eels. That's not what I'm saying.
In fact, I think the referees were pretty favorable at
times to the Warriors. They got lead off the hook
with Vaimong and not being penalized for taking Moses out
off the ball during the game overall in the penalty count,
think Mitchell Moses has mentioned it in that clip and

(17:03):
you're exchanged with him at twelve to four in favor.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Of the Eel.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yeah, I mean twelve four. It wasn't twelve. He's hiss edraining,
but it was. Penalties are something like six to four
or five four. But he's talking about six agains as well.
But that's a bit weird to bring that up because
the Warriors had a whole lot of ball in the
second half. Of course they're going to get more six
agains in the heels. It's hard to get six agains
between you they have the ball.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
In terms of the Warriors attack, which we talked about
so much this year, Chance to a crook start again
sort of leading in terms of running. I think he
led the total number of runs last week. Roger ty
vasis Chek led the run meters. This week, Chance leading
the run meters with three one hundred and twenty eight.
They're really spear hitting the Warriors in terms of doing
the work getting the Warriors up the pack. So when

(17:46):
you swap out Charns for Taan, I feel like the
Warriors forward's actually doing more work because Chans is taking
so much of the mental in terms of cutting the
ball up the field from deep in the Warriors half,
I feel.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Like he's doing but much. And I'll explain why I'm
saying that. I remember when Roger was Warriors fallback for
a long time, and I used to think the same thing.
Sometimes Roger was doing too much of the hard yards,
you know. I mean, Roger was a Ferrari, and he
was playing like he's.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
You know, like a forward.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Sometimes Ford isn't car Sorry, that wasn't a very good
analogy at all.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
But also like a forward in terms of the runs,
that's it.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
There you go, that's the thing.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
So with Chance, I feel like sometimes he's doing those
He's often doing two runs in a set, right or
sometimes and then he gets the ball in the red
zone and I think there's some fatigue there. You know,
he's not not as sharp as he should be. Fullbacks,
it's about conserving energy and like someone like James Disco
and then boom, you can just hit. And the same

(18:43):
with a couple of defensive efforts. I wonder if those
were partly because he was fatigued. So it sounds crazy,
but I think he's doing a bit too much. The
three hundred meters looks great, but he's got to try
and manage his energy.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
But Adam Pompey is quickly becoming my favorite player on
the Warriors team. He cannot stop scoring tries and he
is a guy who got a lot of crap from
the fan base for a number of years and just
in the last couple of years, probably since Webster took over. Actually,
he's become a real standout for me. He really started

(19:17):
sitting the bar with us kicking. Late in the twenty
twenty three season, he came in and was nailing conversions
off the tee. And this year I feel like he's
really stood up. He's had a couple of defensive mishap, sure,
but in terms of being in the right place at
the right time the attack, his distribution to Roger, to
I Vasischek on that left edge, and defensively overall, I
think has been so solid this season. And he looks

(19:39):
really happy, looks happy. He's underrated.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
I mean he's so he's a big body, he's so
good at getting through that first tackle, getting to try
he's got the flick pass. What people forget about. And
Pompy is he's had a really tough two seasons. Last
season he was dropped for Roger. Remember Roger came in.
Pompey lost his spot after playing so well in twenty
twenty three. He only played a lot last season because

(20:02):
Rocky Berry got injured a lot. This season, who were
the top two centers Rocco Eli Lautawa, So Pompey was
again seen as the guy on the outside, if you
know what I mean, in terms of what was seen
as Webster's first choice.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
But in the end, Pompy's played I think every game,
so he's come good this year. He really has.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
I feel like this has been his best season in
first grade. Twenty twenty three was good as well. He
didn't play as much, but let's hope and keep improving
because he's really important.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
It's a bit weird seeing the Warriors improve after Wade
Egan went off the field in that game too. Mighty Martin,
as he does, plays every position, he came into hooker,
and when he came into hooker, it just felt like
things sped up a little bit in terms of the
Warrior's attack and that's when those tries started to flow.
That throw of points after the Warriors were down twenty
points before they started to come back into the game.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
What did to Mighty do so well? I mean, the
Warriors were going better at that stage when he came on.
The fours were starting to dominate, the eels was starting
to tire, so it was a bit of that. But
Egan struggled. I don't know if his shoulders still bothering
or what. Webs didn't didn't really go into it, but
he threw a forward pass. He missed the tackle for
the second try that we talked about. By his standards,

(21:15):
he wasn't having a great game, and so Martin he
provided some mempetus it's going to be interesting. Hegan still
should be first choice, but you know, he didn't look himself,
did he?

Speaker 4 (21:28):
And Leka Hallisima just finally on the game. We talk
hell of a lot about him, but again just his
work in the air, and he's been on less minutes
the last few weeks. So I asked Andrew Webster about
this last week why he's been playing less minutes. And
Andrew Webster pointed to him dropping the ball almost every
time he got the ball a couple of weeks ago

(21:49):
at Mount Smart and just the fact that he is
only nineteen and they have to know when to push
him and when to pull him back, when to say, Okay,
you know you've done a good job. Let's reduce your
workload for a couple of weeks. And that's just where
he's at in his career. I'm really impressed with the
way they are managing him and not giving into the
fan hump hype and just go, Okay, we're going to
start them and play them every game because they do

(22:10):
have Kirk cape Won mart In near quarter, and now
that those injuries have been reduced in the centers, I
think it is the right thing to start both of
those players and use Leer off the bench in reduced minutes.
I mean, you love him as an impact player anyway.

Speaker 5 (22:23):
Yeah, I was saying weeks ago, I think he's ideal
as an impact player. Wind him up and let him
go across eighty minutes. His impact can be diluted a
bit because he's got to do all this other work
and the opposition send send runners him all the time.
So perfect, perfect, But he's amazing because it wasn't as

(22:43):
if the Warriors were They had ball in the second half,
but they weren't, you know, knocking the door down. They
weren't like looking like they're going to score on every set.
They were struggling to find ways. And then he just
scores an incredible try off the bomb, so hard to
do that sours like an NFL player has the composure
to land and ground it and then bust through again.
Five minutes later down the right edge beats two tacklers

(23:05):
like he just got that X factor that you just
can't coach. He is so special and I just hope
that you and I are talking about him for ten
years as a Warrior, not as else.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
They're going to need some money.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
They're going to need, Cameron George, get out of your
checkbook because there are going to be some clubs lining
up for the signature of Lecquahalasima. Just finally, but on
the table, Warriors slipped to sixth. They are still level
on points on thirty four with Coronella and Brisbane Brisbane
and fourth Cornella fifth. There is still a chance here
the Warriors make top four because both of those sides

(23:41):
have tough final round games. I'm just going to bring
it up here. In the final round, the Broncos have
to play the Storm, the Sharks have to play the Bulldogs.
Warriors play the Seagles obviously, so there is still a
chance of both those teams lose these final games. Wi
Warriors beat the Seagles, boom, Top four done.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
The best scenario here would be if the Warriors game
was on a Sunday and these other games were my
favorite Thursday and my Friday, because then they would know
what they have to do. The issue is going to
be do the Storm and do the Bulldogs pick a
full strength team? Because the Storm can't improve their position,
so they'll be very tempted to rest players ahead the finals,

(24:21):
and the same with the Bulldogs, and that's going to
be the issue for the Warriors and for the Warriors'
coach because he's going to be weighing up what does
he do because it feels like the Broncos and the
Sharks could be given a massive advantage by playing weekend teams,
which means they will win. So then the question becomes
does Andrew Webster rest players because does he really want

(24:43):
to play his full strength team? There's some guys looking
really tired at the moment. Aaron Clark's one of them.
There's a few other forwards as well. They could do
the rest if Webster knows, even if we beat Manly,
those other two teams aren't going to lose, not both
of them anyway. So do I rest my players? Our
position doesn't change either, and we focus on the week after,

(25:03):
which really matters, instead of busting our balls trying to
beat Manly.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
I've got a feeling knowing Angel Webster he won't do
that because it's a hard way.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
You don't know if he rest players. They lost them
mainly and then and then the.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Broncos and the Sharks both lose, you like, but I
think there'd be a temptation there.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Big. Let's get into it then.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Birge Warrior's face Manly in their final regular season game
at Brookvale on Friday night. The Seagles set tenth on
the ladder with eleven wins twelve losses. They're coming off
a forty to twenty four pancing of the Dragons and
the week before that they put thirty eight on the Dolphins.
The Warriors played Manly way back in March and walloped

(25:50):
them thirty six sixteen at Mount Smart. I don't think
that game has a hell of a lot of relevance
this week, Burge. They've obviously got Dandy Cherry Evans and
Luke Brooks in the Harves, Tom Travoyevitch at fall back
and forth of Warrior, Jazzaevanga in the Ford's Burge. Why
do team seem to come right justice they're about to
face the Warriors the wrist The Warriors fans to be

(26:11):
bitter out there because they're like far out. The Eels
were rubbish for three months and now they're just playing
playing out of their skins. The Titans were terrible and
then they had turned a corner at Mount Smart Penris
another good example where they sort of turned. The Knights
were terrible, then they came up with this great performance
against the Warriors. And the Dragons are another good one.

(26:32):
The Dragons played really well and then Manly. Look at Manly.
They've been all over the place, all of all of
the other NRL.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Fans from other franchise, go look at those Warriors fans complaining.
I was always find something to moan about.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
I was about to say, but you know, you play
the teams and you play them, and Warriors have played
other teams this season when they've been at a lower
eble missing players. So while while it seems a bit
weird and you're a bit jealous you didn't get to
play the Eels back and back in March when they
were terrible, it all evens out, so it's no issue.
The Warriors of the Warriors have actually had quite a Yeah,

(27:04):
I'm not hung up about it. Worries have had a
good draw. It's just quite funny. It's just quite funny
in a way. But do you remember that game at
Mount Smart against Manly barely? I remember talking to Jazz
Stavanga beforehand and he was looking forward to getting back
to Mount Smart and I think he was copping a
fair amount of.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Flag from the crowd as well.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
But to be honest, it doesn't really stand out in
my mind. Oh, it was a great game, but it
was the Scorelom is a bit deceptive. The Seagules made
three or four breaks in the first fifteen minutes, just
cutting them open down down the edge, and I think
their bluetooth tries it could have been very different. So
there was actually a super tough game. Good win by

(27:43):
the Warriors in that one. But Manly, yeah they I
mean they could still make the eight. Not only that,
but it'll be you know what, it'll be all week.
It's going to be doing it for Daily. Let's do
it for Daily. Let's do it for a club legend
who's played three hundred data DA games, been a captain
for so long, took them to a premiership and a
Grand Final. And it's a ground that the Warriors have

(28:03):
often struggled it. So this is going to be really tough.
But the good thing is the Warriors won't be favorites,
and the Warriors quite like that. They're quite good underdogs,
aren't they.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
They love it.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
They're quite good underdogs that when there's no expectation. But
I mean, they can't drop any lower than Sex, right,
So it's the point. It's three points back to Penrith,
So even if they lose, they're not going to end
up in any worse situation than they are right now.
They can only go up. So if they win, it's great.
If they lose, then Penrith Penrith Round one of the playoffs. Yeah,

(28:37):
and that's that's my But that's my point about what
I was saying before, do your risk players, because Penrith
is looking like the likely scenario. So to beat Penrith,
you're going to have to be absolutely fit, firing on
your game in so many ways.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
I mean, that's presuming that Penrith beat the Dragons, because
if they don't and the Roosters beat the Bunnies, then
it'll be Roosters. But Roosters is surging as well. It
would be tough regardless. Yeah, I mean, it's just Roosters
put forty on the storm in one half. It's just
like I don't understand because the week before that the
Ruster has got pump on the eels.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
You, Nathan, I mean, welcome to the NRAL mate. I know,
I know you've been following this.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
It was in Melbourne as well.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
I know you've been following this for a while. But yeah,
welcome to the NRL. This is this is what makes it.
I mean, the Roosters are a great attacking team. They
are they can they can do that to teams.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
I did like Balum dis direction after Owe when he
said we were he said, I was a few words
I could say that I won't but mate, we were
soft as butter. I thought, I thought, there's really good.
But yeah, going back to the Warriors, it's it is
quite frustrating that they're going to end up playing Penrith
in the first week of the finals. I mean, can
you imagine, you know, you come to six end up
playing Penrith. That's that's weird in itself going on the

(29:46):
last few seasons, but they've had so many chances to
lock down this top four spot. They were they were
eight points ahead at one stage. Since the Sharks game
in Dune, they've won four out of ten matches and
that that has killed them. But if you think back
the Titans matched at Mount Smart, they win that top
fours lockdown, the Dolphins match, the minute try, they win

(30:09):
that top fours lockdown, the Penrith match.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
I don't know, you want to.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
Say, it's still it's still going to be a great season.
You finished six, but we will wonder the big if
only imagine if they had been top four.

Speaker 11 (30:20):
The Big League Podcast on the Warriors Bad Wagons since
day one. The Big League Podcast for the biggest league fans.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Okay, just before we get into quick fire predictions, quick
shout out to a couple of teams. The Warriors women's
NRL playoff hopes have taken a bash, losing twenty six
eighteen to the Dragons. They sit seventh on the ladder
with two rounds to play. The top six progress to
the NRLW Finals. Over in the New South Wales Cup,
the Warriors. They finished top of the ladder with twenty
one wins, one draw, two losses. They've recorded six more

(30:58):
wins than the second place Dragons. Burge, it's just a route.
It's not even close. Greatest New South Wales Cup team
of all time.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
It's incredible, credible, and they've had a lot of their
players and first grade the last few weeks. So it's
good sign surely because there'll be some players in that team,
although a lot of them are being promoted already, but
the some players some more players that will be coming
up next year or the year after. So the Karli
Kalani going, Yeah, players hovering on the edge. One more point,

(31:29):
I wanted to make actual about the manly game, which
I forgot. If I was Andrew Webster, I don't know
how sentimental you are, but I would think about throwing
in bunti afo, Yeah, God, throw them in. Give one
the forwards, arrestaur man interchange bens. It's his last ever game.
Oh not as last of a game, because he might
feature in the finals game, I guess, but this would
be the chance to use him. He won't be staying

(31:51):
at Mount Smart next season, so as I wrote a
few weeks ago, so give him a game off.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
The bench, Andrew, just do it. Quick fire pretections up
firsts favorite Thursday night bumperclass. Just stay up, Stay up
to watch the Swamp Broncos versus the Storm in Brisbane
Broncos fighting for that top four spot, so that'll be
a full strength side, no doubt. Do the Storm put
out their full strength side? Am I a mona? Are
you generally a mona? Am I a mona? You think?

Speaker 5 (32:18):
Yeah? I am Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
I've spent enough time, We've done a podcast with you
for three years. We think, oh, I do okay, because
why do you put that game on a Tuesday night
at ten ten pm? I just don't even eight PIM
in Australia like these really big games. Just put the anyway.
I don't think the Storm do.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
I think for a trip to Brisbane they rest some players,
maybe don't even travel and they have a weekend lineup.
Although thinking it through, having just lost to the Roosters,
as you're pointing out forty to ten Bellamy, will he
want to be going into the playoffs off two defeats
and off no momentum? Or will we want to beat
the Broncos and go into a game against two they're
going to play They're going to play the Bulldogs off

(32:55):
a win. It's actually it's actually, now I think about it,
it's actually a tricky.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
One for Ballamy in terms of what he does.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
So but I'll go either go the Broncos here because
I feel like they got so much to play for
and they are so over you win against the Storm.
They've barely beaten the Storm in ten years, like they've
beat them here and there, but the Storm dominance of
the Broncos is crazy, so Brisbane for me, I'm going
to agree with you there, just based on I think
the Broncos wild be hungrier to Eagles versus the Warriors here.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
We got I don't know, but I don't know means
you think probably they're going to lose, Yeah, you got me.
That's my no.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
I think I can see Mainly winning this one for
the reasons we talked about before. It means so master
daily chery evens the crowd will be really into it.
Mainly are playing well. I mean you look at how
the teams are going Manly. Manly are playing much better
than the Warriors have the last couple of weeks, so
they're on form, they're on fire.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Warriors had a good game a couple of weeks ago.
We're like, oh yeah, Titans back into it. Oh they did,
they did.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
But but the way the Warriors, that the way Manly
has been playing, I think the home advantage they've got
the kind of attacking shape that can break down the
Warrior's edge. So I think mainly for me on this one.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
It's not often that we both pick against the Warriors
on this podcast, but there we go.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Prove us wrong.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
Roosters Rabbit Os, Yeah, this is a massive grade much
great match. These teams hate each other, so there'd be
a lot more on the line for this. The Rabbits
have improved, but I do like what the Roosters have
been doing. As I said before, great attacking team, starting
to find some momentum again like they always seem to
this time of year, so they should be too good.
But Brandis Mischill enjoyed the game two against his old

(34:35):
team given everything's been going on there.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Agree with you there?

Speaker 5 (34:39):
Dragons Panthers, Well, the Panthers have to win, really, don't
they assume they want to stay in seventh and cross
the Tasman to play the Warriors rather than rather than
being an eighth and play the fifth place team, you'd think.
And the Dragons have fallen away, They've only got pride
to play for at home. Panthers for mine, And how

(34:59):
do you like this?

Speaker 3 (35:00):
For prime time? Just about game on your Saturday Titans Tigers.
I quite like it.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
I'm going to like what's entitle there we go, see,
mister positive. The Titans are great to watch. They're great
to watch. They just throw it around. And I like
the Tigers too. Benji on the sideline all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Who knows.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
I mean, the Titans will go for it, maybe they win.
Maybe I was going to say Tigers, but maybe the
Titans win in the last game of the season. There's
this farewell. I'll go with the Titans. Bugger off Bulldogs
versus the Sharks.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Here we go.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
I wonder what the Bulldog's going to do here. We
talked about this before. Do they change their lineup, do
they give some guys a rest or do they go
into the finals with momentum given they're at home. I'll
go with the Bulldogs, don't. I don't think the Sharks
are that good, which is going to hurt even more
if they end up fourth place, which they probably will.

(35:52):
Say ya go Bulldogs.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
I don't think either of them are any good. I'm
going to back the Sharks. I reckon the Bulldogs and
rest their team. Dolphins Raiders, You'll be hated on the
Bulldogs for him and the Sharks for him sitting there
saying they're both not any good. The Bulldogs are in
third place, they're in first for a long time. My goodness.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
Raiders, Yeah, they are the smoky to win the premiership.
And I think a lot of I don't know what
you think, but I think a lot of Keywis would
love it to see the Raiders win the premiership if
the Warriors. If the Warriors can't because we've had the
storm story so many times, I had the penwith story,
but I think Ricky and the boys with Joe Tabeny,
who is amazing, that'd be great.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
So yeah, Raiders and one and Eels Nights to finish
off the NRL seasons for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
What is it about the Eels when they come to
Auckland are they just play so well? So it's so frustrating,
But the Eels will finish off the nights and the
Knights have got a lot to do.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
That'll do us for this week of the podcast. Burge,
thank you so much for your time, your wisdom, insight.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
We will be back next Monday to digest the Warrior's
final regular season game of the season against Manly at Brookvale.
Here we go and then we're into the NRL playoffs.
It's an exciting few weeks ahead. We'll see you next Monday.
My name is Nathan Limb. Have a fantastic week. For

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