November 21, 2025 • 39 mins
Jamie talks to Jane Smith, Stefan Vogel, Jo Luxton, Celia Jaspers, and Shane Jones.
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Prince of the Provinces as well. But we're going to
kick the show off with Jane Smith north Otago Sheep
and beef Farmer post a girl for the Methane Science Accord,
responding to correspondence from a young Northland dairy farmer regarding
his concerns about mandating feed additives as a part of
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a climate policy to reduce methane emissions from ruminants. Sounds complicated, Well,
it's not really. There's two sides to the argument. We're
going to get one of them up next. Stefan Vogel
joined us midweek out of Rabobanks Sydney office. We had
a look at the bank's agri commodity outlook for twenty
twenty six. Joe Lucky Easton, Labour's ag spokesperson, defending her
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party's lack of any real meaningful policy, especially around those
HAG missions, and has Chippy dodged a political bullet with
the release of his CGT policy. All that on the
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Jane Smith is a North Otago farmer, regular heir on
the country. You never die wondering what she's thinking. What's
she thinking today? Because as we speak, Jane, you've taken
a break from your lunch break to chat to us.
You're stuck behind a rock or somewhere high on the
hills on your farm there, sheltering from a gale northwesterly.
Are you guys really starting to get quite dry in
North Otago?
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Well, good afternoon, Jamie. Yeah, we certainly are.
Speaker 7 (02:49):
Men there.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
That has been seven weeks of Norwister's. We had a
sitt of a reprieve last week from the Norwiesta, so
that was good for people that were tailing, et cetera.
And I guess that other concerning thing is if it's
norwesty here, it'll be pouring with rain on the west
coast and those sort of western parts of Central Target
that have just had enough Jamie, and in Southend as well,
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so it's really tricky. Not as dry as Hawk's day
and definitely as dry as North Canterbury. But we're certainly
getting there, Jamie. And it's just not the best working
conditions working with Blair anyway, live alone in a Northwestern I'm.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
On blair side on this one. I think I think
he'd be the peacemaker in the relationship. I got an
email yesterday from a young Northland dairy farmer. I hope
he doesn't mind me reading this out. I've forwarded it
on to you. His name is Nathan Chestnut. He said,
I'm a young dairy farmer in Northland, still have about
forty or fifty years to go if the country plays
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its cards right. So that's a good, ambitious and positive
approach to take the start with. He's very really worried
because he says Norway has legislated a mandate that all
dairy cattle must be fed with a feed additive as
a part of its climate policy. Farmers are reporting health
issues amongst their animals. I abnormal behavior, refusal of feed
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intake and even death. Now you are, when you're not
farming with Blair, you are the poster girl for the
methane science accord. This is what you guys are banging
on about.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Yeah, well, we've had a lot of concerns about this
for some time now, Jamie, and it's interesting to see
this really highlighted in Denmark over the last few weeks.
And obviously, as some of your listeners will know, the
active ingredient is let me get this right, three nitro
oxy pro panel, which is THREEP. So it's essentially an
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enzyme that's used by a nathanologenic microbes that produce methane
to block the enzyme, so essentially works to alter the
microbio in the stomach, which is particularly concerning given all
the knowledge we now have around the stomach by health
really being a key tenant in being healthy, whether you're
a cow or a human, and that is really concerning.
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So and I guess what we've looked into is as
we know that the consumers generally do not want to
consume it, and you know, and their meat and their milk,
and why would you farmers don't want to use it
because of the because of the cost and the no
rational rational reason why you'd.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Have to use it.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
And also you know, again ninety three percent of our
two thousand farmers in New Zealand that we've sive had
said they will not use it. Now the Danish government
had mandated its uses, Nathan Rightney says, and their intense
farmings obviously quite too.
Speaker 8 (05:33):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
It's a feed lot system rather than our our free
range pastoral systems here. So they've done that to appease
the climate change colt over there. And last week both
the government and the Danish Veterinary Association issue the press
release allowing farmers to actually withdraw from using it if
they suspect health conditions and because animal welfare has been compromised.
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And I now see that the UK have also stopped
the trials that they were doing with it as well.
So again really concerning that we are currently putting taxpayer
money into essentially the same the same type of feed
editors and vaccines et cetera that will be altering you know,
the natural ruminante processes.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Jamie, Jane, come on, let's be honest here. This is
you just shoving a bowlus right up the backside of
agri zero n Z.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Well again, Jamie, you know that the big concerns here
are you know, animal health concerns. We don't know the
long term impact. But also the biggest one is actually
they're not needed at all. All of these tools will
make about as much difference to global temperatures as painting
every sense post in the country would, So that would
be expensive, it would sound good, it would look nice,
but it means it's totally meaningless to global temperatures. And
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you know, it's really interesting any time you ask a
politician or an overpaid bureaucrat or a well funded scientist
that's doing methane mitigation sites what difference any of this
will make to global temperatures, and they cannot answer it,
and instead, of course, they roll up that line about
our global customer, this is what they want. So, you know,
junk food companies, Meisla, McDonald's, this is what they want.
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And the really sad thing is it was now in
a country that's paying what is it, two million dollars
an hour of just Sinder's interest off an hour, we've
now cocked up nearly a billion dollars on chasing me
rainbows Jamien. Imagine if that same money had been spent
on enhance and by diversity, by security, water quality, water storage,
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pest control. And it really concerns me that we're we're
hearing Christopher climate change lots and still rolling out that
line we must meet our climate, our carbon zero by
twenty fifty. And it's an irrational response, a response to it, Jamie.
And you know three hundred billion dollars could be clocked
up by then, and that's what's at one hundred hospitals
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and ten years at the health budget, Jamie. So I
will not you know, I will not back down some
fightings on this, Jamie, because again it's not whether or
not climate change it is or isn't happening, it's how
we respond to it, Jamie. And this is absolutely irrational.
And again, if you look at photosynthesis and I've just
written a article from the New Zealand Herald on this,
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it's a closed loop. Ruminant animals are simply as one
cog in the wheel. So we actually, you know, on
a molecule for molecule basis, only three percent of the cotos,
all by grass, ends up being returned as methane. And
it's a very simple back of the envelope stuff. In fact,
I explained this to a first year high school agg
class last week and they said, yeah, we know that
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they know that, so it's very strange to their AC
sector leaders. Our research scientists continue to waste money in
this area and I actually I want to apologize to
the taxpayer because we are literally wasting money that could
be going into some real R and D.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Jamie, Okay, Look on the bright side, Jane, at least
with Chippy's capital gains tax, you're going to get three
free visits to the doctor each year. I hope you
get some rain in North Otago.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Thanks Jammy, you're concerned about Jane Smith.
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Speaker 7 (10:14):
I would have thought that, Uh yeah, now, Jamie, Look,
we all know how much the export destinations and export
markets of the world are impacted by the political positions.
But maybe very briefly, this is a global report and
it was released last week and we've already seen that
mister Trump has changed his mind on beef tariffs. So
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with that there are the changes. And the one thing
we mentioned is what is certain is basically the uncertainty remains,
so we've seen that one coming in. I think for
New Zealand, the changes here in the tariffs are actually
nothing bad. It will go back for the beef in
quota trade from the fifteen percent where we've faced now
to slightly under one percent. So that's a good kind
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of level playing now with the ones including us here
in Australia.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Idea ste I'm sorry, do you think this could be
the beginning of the end for Trump's tariffs?
Speaker 7 (11:09):
Look, I think the message we've already conveayed for many,
many months is that the threat of a tariff is
more powerful to the president's Trump in the negotiations than
the actual tariff. So whenever the consumer hurts, and with that,
especially on the meat and food prices here, the consumer
in the US is hurting, he's making changes. I don't
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think it will be the end of tariff, but it
might be the end of terriffs or the more exceptions
to come for some of the food products that really
matter to the masses.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
You mentioned geo politics, here's a question for you, and now,
are we now moving into like a Cold war regime
China versus the US as opposed to Russia versus the
US in the sixties.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Well, we've already had that thesis for many years out
there that the are or the front are shaping more
into a Cold war area. However, if you look with
a Royce most recent treat deal, things even between the
US and China have calmed a little bit down, but
honestly they're only kicking the can one year down the road.
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So with that, the good news out of the deal
between China and the US is basically we will not
see the port terriffs implemented, which could have really changed
the way that the freight market is reacting. We get
some more certainty that some soybeans out of North America
move into that Chinese market. But overall for US in
New Zealand and Australia, I think the grain market takes it,
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and that's for your feeding of costs probably important. Takes
it in a way that there are plenty soybeans in
the world market and China will anyway get it from
wherever they can get it. So with that right now
they're buying in the US it makes sense it's cheap.
They will move in a few months back over to
South America because that's where the volumes will come with
a new harvest in let's say February March, so that
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China does what makes sense for China. The US wants
to do what makes sense for the US. But the
confronting to sites are not easy to overlap. So with that,
I think there's a bit of window dressing those in
those trade deals.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Stephan, sorry to come over the top of you here,
but I am limited on time. I want to quickly
have a look at some of these individual commodities. Dairy,
we have a global dairy trade auction. Tonight, futures market
is pointing to perhaps another two percent fall and whole
milk powder. I see the futures market for New Zealand
and I appreciate that yours is a global report for
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the twenty sixth season. Was it nine dollars seventy three
last time I locked?
Speaker 8 (13:38):
So?
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Is that ten dollars? Milk price here in New Zealand
under severe threat?
Speaker 7 (13:44):
We fear there's a bit of pressure still coming from
the world market, because if we're looking into twenty six
there is continued growth in production in the big export
markets from the US but also from South America coming
into the market. So the forward curve is pointing a
little to the upside, but overall we see that market
pretty much going sideways to put in the US at
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least the futures market sideways to maybe slightly higher. But
the volumes that are coming in the world market will
give us here in New Zealand probably be a bit
of a hard time because we need to get our
volumes into that Asian market.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
It seems that there's nothing but good news for base.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
Well for BF, yes, definitely well and mister Trump's changes
in mind came quicker than we could even write the report.
So I think for New Zealand the good news is
basically we're moving from a fifteen percent teriff back to
in quota tariffs of less than one percent. That brings
us more or less at a level playing field with Australia,
which moves from ten percent to nothing. We still have
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Mexico not being able to move into that US market
because of a disease, and if you look at others,
the Brazilians, that's the big question mark right now, what happens.
Remember they got an extra forty percent tariff on top
of the reciprocal terraffs and the market for now still
ex fact that forty percent tariff will remain in place
for a while longer. So overall, the issue we're seeing
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there for the Brazilians is that they may have a
bit of a tougher time to get in the US market,
which is good news for US.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
And I want to quote one of your final numbers,
GDP growth forecast for this year at two point nine.
Interestingly for twenty twenty six at two point seven. So
the world economy is still in a sticky place. Hey,
Stefan Vogel out of Rabobank's Sydney office, Really appreciate your
time on the country.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Thanks having me all the best the.
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Speaker 5 (15:38):
Joe Luxton as Labour's agriculture spokesperson. But Joe Luxton, could
you be the next Minister of Agriculture. I'm starting to
get worried.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Oh why would be? Were you? Jamie?
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Wow? Let me think? Let me count the ways the
Greens to party Maori, the end of farming as we
know it?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Oh, look that bollocks Jamie, and you know it you
know it under the last labor government that wasn't the
end of farming, was it.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Well, you tried your very best with he walker Ickinawa.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Look, it's a different different Labor Party, different caucus now,
and we're focused on labor. And if you if people
out there want change, if they're concerned about the Greens
and they're concerned about five tonight and vote for labor
is what I say.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Let's be honest. Farmers aren't your constituency. Farmers won't get
you the Treasury bench as they're probably going to be
a nuisance in some ways because you never wouldn't. Whatever
you do, you're not going to win them over. So
you know your constituency is urban New Zealand that's how
you'll win the election.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Look, Labor governs for everybody, Jamie, not just one particular
group or the other. I mean you could you could
flip that on its side and say that, well, okay,
then national must be the only only part of it
looks after farmers and not others. So I just don't
believe that for a second.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Jamie well On instant tells me and David Seymour tell
me they look after farmers as well. I'd pick on
you a wee bit, Joe, and you're such a nice person.
I don't like doing this. But when are you going
to have some egg policy for me? For instance, what
is Labor's emissions policy? We know that under the current government,
eggs not on the ets. There's no pricing of emissions.
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That won't happen under a Labor led government.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
I'm not going to tell you what our climate change
or emissions reductions policies will be. Gibra Russell as our
climate spokesperson, she's currently away at the moment. In what
we do know is obviously the government has currently reduced
its emissions for methane targets, and we have asked to
see the information and the science and the advice they
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received as to how they came to that position, and
we're still waiting on that as well. So I don't
have anything further to say on our we've emissions reductions
or climate policy.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Well, I'll wait with bited breath for some policy. Look
as net zero by twenty fifty now a lost core.
I see some governments around the world are dumping it.
The Australian opposition is dumping it.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I don't think that we should give up. But it
is concerning to see the things that this government is
doing that that seems to be moving away from that,
with the different policies initiatives that they are getting rid
of and scrapping or reducing just.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Quickly to finish on Chippy's capital gains tax. Has he
dodged a bit of a political bullet here because it
seems to have been at least met with a fifty
to fifty reception, maybe even better depending on which pole
you look at, because in the past it's always been
thought of as a poison chalice. But the reception and
at labor you must be reasonably pleased that you've been
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able to fly this kite and it hasn't met with
widespread anger.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
No, I think it's I think it's a really great,
great policy. And often when you introduce taxes or other things,
people sort of they get it up in arms about it,
don't they. But when people people can actually see and
understand what that money that is raised from that will
be spent for, specifically on those three doctors visits, free
doctor's visits per Anna, then people can then people feel
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a lot better about those things. And we've kept it
super simple. So it's only on profit on commercial or
residential properties, excluding the film come and excluding farms.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Yeah yeah, okay, well that's good. Why didn't you make
the spend more targeted? I mean giving everybody, including you
and me, a free doctor's visit. It's a complete waste
of time, and it's human nature. You get to December
and November this time of the year and you go, oh,
I haven't had the third free doctor's visit. I might
go and get a full check up, a warrant of
fitness from my doctor. You're just going to clog the
health system. Why not put all that money that you'll
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get eventually from a capital gains tax just straight into
the health budget and let them decide where to spend
it best.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I completely disagree with you, Jamie. So are you saying
that you and I, if we get free doctor's visits,
that then maybe we should look to be paying when
we arrive at emergency department too. It just doesn't work
that way, Jamie. You know you cannot start.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Ay emergency departments, Joe, are for emergencies. If we're going
along to our GP, people like you and I should
be paying. The health system's got enough challenges without us
bludging on it.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
And we have other policies coming out that will help
to tackle that as well that you'll be pleased to
hear when they come out, you know, in one of those.
You know, the more the sooner that people get to
see doctor, the better because it ends up costing us
less at the other end, and if they do show
up in the ED department. And the other thing that
we announced recently, and I'm not sure if we have two,
is the free civical screening for everyone as well, which
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is a fantastic policy.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Well I hope it's only for the women, not everyone,
but anyhow, Joe Luxton, I'm going to await this policy eagerly,
along with your egg policy. Always good to chat and debate.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
You too, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
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Speaker 5 (21:02):
You've given me this Good Morning, New Zealand. Welcome back
to the Best of the Country. I'm Jamie Mackay. The
show's brought to you by Rabobank. Were growing a Better
New Zealand together. The musical theme today, as I said,
at the top of the how the Statler Brothers Flowers
on the Wall. Bruce Willis used this for pulp fiction
and Die Hard with a Vengeance in the nineteen nineties.
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Back in the seventies, the instrumental version of this and
eighties and early nineties, I think was used for an
iconic TV show called a Dog Show where they're making
a movie about that TV show, and we're going to
speak next to Celia Jaspers or we caught up with
a Midweek on a wire wrapper farm where they were
filming the show. Shane Jones martoua Shane the Prince of
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the Provinces, dismissing David Seymour's claims that New Zealand First
is getting ready to go with labor again. Plus he
had a crack at Sam Neil James, Cameron, Debbie and
Roweri from Tapati Marii and he called Chloe a demonic egg.
Beatter the mind biggles Shane Jones. Before that, though, I
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Speaker 5 (23:19):
So, as we've been talking about today on the show,
a Dog Show is back. No, not the iconic TV program,
but a movie about the iconic TV program. Really looking
forward to this one being released later next year. The
producer is Celia Jaspers. And Celia, you've got a good
background when it comes to rural films if you want,
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because you're a longtime producer of Country Calendar. Good afternoon,
welcome to the country.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
Thank you, Jamy to you, Yes, very much like a
young one of the directors of Country Calendar. I've been
doing that for about ten years. I'm about forty plus
episodes over the years and I want to find it.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Oops, you're just cutting out on me. Do you live
in the back block somewhere?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I do.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
I'm just out of Martin ber at the moment. Yeah,
so I farm. We're here with my husband. We've got
a sheep, beef and cropping block. So yeah, I literally
stand in the film world and the farming world a
little bit. So it's a perfectly positioned I think for
this kind of film.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Now, the original Dog Show was on nineteen seventy seven
to nineteen ninety two. And when I think about that
show and we all used to watch it on the Sunday,
I think it was a Sunday I'm thinking of the
late John Gordon, who was the commentator, narrator. He was brilliant.
Speaker 9 (24:30):
Yes, he was so iconic for that time and Frank
Torley of course produced the Dog Show back then, so
and then we're on to do country Calendar as well,
so there's a lot of cross over there. But John
Gordon has involved in the pre production of this script
in this film, and he worked with Alex Galvin, our writer,
to actually work through this dog trailing to understand what
would work for us and what we needed for story,
and he gave his blessing before he passed, and we're
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very sad that he can't be with us now to
see this be imagined on the screen. But yes, he
fully endorsed what we were doing and it's such a
positive story for Trialing and all of these Zealand and
certainly the rural sector as well, so we're really hopeful.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
So the film's based effectively on fictitious characters. But do you,
for instance, have a character resembling John Gordon.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
Well, I couldn't say if it's but there is a
commentator who has quite a large beer, so you can
read into that if you like. But his lines were
iconic and certainly the tone of that style is really
fund So we're leaning into as much authenticity of the
seventies as we can.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
So you've got real actors in there and some well
known New Zealanders who are taking leading roles. But in
the extras you've got to have some real dog trialists.
I'm assuming, Celia.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
Really and I think because I'm a documentarian by trade
and I make real I really want to make this authentic.
So posting getting move and we handled dogs. We actually
have reached out to the whole dog trilling community and
a lot of people from Carpany, Hawk's Bay and the
Wairappa clubs have all signed up. We've been casting for
months and months. I've been literally casting dogs, standing and
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pat looking a dog, meeting the owners, going right, are
they up for the rigors of this? And so yeah,
We've got a lovely selection of people who have given
a lot of time and a lot of training and
also helping us learn.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Well, Celia, is it more important to be able to
handle the dog well or act in front of a
camera and not be totally wooden?
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (26:15):
I think we could teach people to act that. You
can't teach people to dog very well, so i'd much
either they were good at that. First.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Are you prepared to throw out a couple of names
of the dog trollers sur are involved. I mean I
think back to people like Ginger Anderson, who was famous
back in the day for being on a dog show.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
Absolutely well, Ginger was one of the inspirations and is
an elderly gent now, but we would have loved to
if we could get a few cameos of those kind
of guys as well. But yeah, current trialist Sheena Martin
has given us a lot of time, and Art Eastman
from the Wade Rappa and John Harvey who's the former
president of the Colleague Club I believe, and he lives
in Martin and down the road from us, and he's
been very supportive over the last of three years while
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we've been developing it. So yeah, there certainly all the
dogs are real deal and they're all very good at
what they do, so it's pretty cool at introducing them
into the film world. There's poor dogs long to set
last week for our first week, and pretty overwhelming with
all the technology and all the cameras, but they handled
it like pros. They've really been quite amazing. Well.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Lloyd Smith as a former brother in law of John
Gordon and he's still in the currently in the New
Zealand Dog trilling team, but I think he's based down south.
He might have been a bit expensive to get up there.
So what's the guts of the storyline, because I'm reading
that the story or the film story centers on Jack
and this is wonderful, a retired sheep dog trialist who
(27:30):
must come out of retirement with his granddaughter to save
the family farm by winning one last competition.
Speaker 9 (27:38):
Yep, exactly, that's the synopsis there, and it is. It's
a lovely it's a family story, very fictitious, but it
is a sort of multi generation and Jack is our
elderly if you like, grandfather character and his very enthusiastic
granddaughter is desperate to dog trial. But Jack was embarrassed
on National TV on the Dog Show and he doesn't
want to trial anymore. So she's really convincing him to
(27:58):
come back. And some struggles, struggles are happening on the
farm and they end up having to go into a
teams competition, which we don't do very often in New Zealand,
but it has happened overseas in the UK. And yes,
we've got a very huge teams event if you like,
is FINALI and so a lot of dogs, a lot
of people and yeah, they see who wins.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
They face an old rival and the movie is described
as an intergenerational redemption story. Any good movie, Celia, and
I don't need to tell you this because you're much
more experienced than I am in this field needs a baddie.
Have we got a baddie in this one?
Speaker 8 (28:30):
We do.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
We do have a villain, yes, played by the David
Winnem from Australia who was in the Hobbit and a
lot of you. So yeah, David's really enjoying this. He's
loving all the airways, baddie.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
We haven't got a great line. So we're expecting this
thing to come out late twenty twenty six and I'm
sure with the iconic music tag line which we've been
playing today, Celia, this is going to be so well
received and it will bring back so many wonderful nostalgic
memories for many New Zealanders.
Speaker 9 (28:58):
Oh we hope so too, and we just will you
all love it. Every time you mentioned the name, everyone
just goes. I remember that from when I was a kid,
So we know there's a lot of support there. And
travel around New Zealand and all cinemas and the provincial
cinemas as well as the city, so we're really hopeful
that we get a lot of support as well. And
I just think we a lovely family film to take
your kids long term and really enjoy, enjoy the world
of the seventies.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Celia Jaspers, thank you very much for your time today
on the Country. Looking forward to seeing this movie go well.
Speaker 9 (29:22):
Thank you, Jamie.
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Speaker 5 (29:31):
Shane Jones is the Prince of the province is the
self titled Martua Shane. But here's a question for you, Shane.
Are you and Winston getting ready to go with labor?
According to David C.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Moore, you are, Oh.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Look, this is one of David's and passioned out bursts.
There's some ongoing debate as to the real value of
the regulatory legislation that is bored and look, he's very
proud of the legislation, but we need to make sure
that we have a manifesto next time around that speaks
to the issues. But no, there's no agenda to breathe
(30:05):
life into the old relationship with sindor or inheritors at all.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Minjie Winston has said he's never going to go with
Chris Hepkins. He backstabbed him and all that sort of stuff.
But if there was a change in labor leadership, and
they're obviously probably won't be before the election, he technically
could change his mind and cover his backside.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
You South Islanders have got to spend less time in
the back paddic imagining all these strange, eerie premonition riddle
false realities. Park it up, parking up. We know exactly
what we're doing, and this has said that we're not
joining with them again once bit and twice shy, And
(30:45):
I'm no wicker who puts his head back in the
noose second time.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Winston did say when he was speaking to mister Hoskins,
that's Mike this morning, that it wasn't a bottom line
for him, It is a bottom line for David Seymour. So,
taking you at your word, I expect you to give
ground on that one and coalition negotiations if you indeed
get the Treasury benches back. Now. I must congratulate you,
Shane Jones on some of your rhetoric around the Greens.
(31:10):
It always amuses me. You've labeled the Greens idea about
mining as ideological compost and a foolish belief that somehow
prosperity comes from a community garden, beautiful work.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
You know as well as I do, that the Green
recipe is economic treason.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
You know that, well, yes I do. But I'm hoping
for some more rhetoric from you. Well for all my listeners.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
No no, no, no, no. Look, look, the bottom line
is that every time Chloe stands up in Parliament, she's
like some sort of demonic egg better all full of rhetoric,
all full of slogans designed to scare away investment, destroy
the god fearing ability of Kiwi's, of Aussie's, of international
(31:59):
investors to reinvigorate our mining. I've got every right to
call her out, I mean these ecomaniacs. Also, what about
what about them over in Brazil full of hot air
trying to denounce New Zealand for bringing some common sense,
some pragmatism and standing up for the cow owners and
the farmers of New Zealand make the South Island should
(32:21):
be on top of every people, every hill, on the
side of every white beat stand and clapping and applauding
me at West. Put it out there and tell Chloe
and Labor and anyone else else who stands in the
way of economic prosperity meet me at the ballot box,
and I believe I've got cues on my site.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
You've also picked a fight with Sam. Neil gets dangerous
to pick fights with popular celebrities. Shane Jones.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Well, I've no doubt in my mind that whilst Sam
is a beloved character, the people who vote for me
are the mums and dads who want their children to
have a future in New Zealand. Just last night at
the Carrigiri h Hotel there are a whole lot of
young men and women saying they're packing up and going
to Wazzi. Why because they see at the moment better
(33:08):
opportunities to fly in and fly out and working in
their mining sector. I want to recreate. I want to
develop that option for them here in New Zealand. Now, look,
I know Sam and his cohort may be a bit
upset with me, but look if Sam gets too frisky
with me as you go back to Jurassic.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Park, well that Sam sorted out the most annoying one
act a celebrity for me, Hollywood heavyweight, whatever you want
to call him, is James Cameron, that well known Wira
Rappa farmer who jets in and out of Los Angeles
by private jet, and I forget about that carbon footprint.
But then he's telling us how to live and even worse,
telling us out of farm.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
James Cameron asserted that in those bleak days of just
Cinda Aduran that the future was synthetic beef. He can
take his synthetic beliefs, he can take his anti Kiwi
attitudes and put them where the sun doesn't shine. He
has no business as an American moving to New Zealand
(34:09):
taking for granted all of the liberties, the rights, and
the heritage of us Kiwis. And it comes off the
back of the farm, not only denouncing but undermining the
traditions that have made places like Northland and White of
Upper Key legacy destinations in the nation of our in
the history of our nation.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Just to finish on you and I are both keen
observers of American politics, what did you make And I
know you've got to be careful because you're a government minister,
but what did you make of Trump's decision to drop
tariffs in our case on beef and Kiwi for it
good news for us, but I mean he flip flops daily.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
That bloke.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
Well Winston told us all along that what happens on
a Monday may not be the case on a Friday,
and fair cop do good marks for Todd McLay. Todd
said when these decisions were announced, and I hope the
cockies down the line accept this, that he would not
give up. He'd continue to advocate and point out that
(35:10):
we're not a threat to America's economic viability. We're actually
a positive contributor. And I think that Winston and Todd
had it right. Don't go out there with neon lights
trying to pick a scrap. Just quietly move away and
let the move on and let the facts speak into
that political echo chamber. And they've kicked a goal.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
So you've got good people like Todd Maclay who's doing
a great job in trade. I mean, how could you
swap that for Raweri and Debbie?
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Come on, Shane well Lawidi and Debbie. As I've said,
Rakin to the Moor soon becoming extinct. They will never
be seen again after the next election. I said in Parliament.
It's in the Bible. The house that it's divided amongst itself,
it perishes and collapses. They have basically the hopes of
(36:00):
the Farno and the households that sent them to parliament.
They're wasting our time and money. And look they turn
up with all of these strange feathers and colors and
sort of crazy rhetoric, and people have moved away from them.
They are never ever going to be in cabinet. And
the short time they've blighted New Zealand politics was thankfully
(36:24):
coming to an end.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Yeah, and some of that traditional mari garb as well,
like that the cowboy had.
Speaker 8 (36:31):
Yeah, well, I'm really disappointed that he's bought a fine
tradition into disrepute. It was Dover who started wearing a hat,
and of course it already says, oh well, I wear
it because cowboys was the nickname for the married returnion
from the East Coast. Don't exploit, don't weaponize a proud
tradition of New Zealand history just so you can cover
(36:51):
your foolish, toxic ideology.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Shane Jones, are you never disappointed? Thanks for your time
today on the country. Appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
Demonic egg beater. See you later.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
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We're growing a better New Zealand together. That's us done
(37:31):
and dusted for the day. But there's lots of stuff
in front of us, especially on the sporting front. We've
got that third ODI against the Windy's two pm this
afternoon in the Tron and the final All Blacks test
in a pretty testing season really at Cardiff, the All
Black B team up against Wales. Will be interested to
(37:52):
see how Ruben Love goes. Very exciting young player. Good
to see Finley Christy get a run as well. Ginger Butler.
I reckon he did well when he played for the
Orblecks this season. All right, that's me. I'm out of here.
You guys, take care, catch you back next Saturday morning.
I'm leaving you with the theme to the Dog Show
minus the lyrics. We use the instrumental version. Back in
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the seventies and eighties and early nineties, me at all.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Playing solitaire till down with the deck of fifty one,
smoking sagattes, and watching Captain Kanguru.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I don't tell me I.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Have nothing to do.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
It's good to see you.
Speaker 9 (38:37):
I must go.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
I know I look a fright anyway, but has not
accustom to this alone, and my shoes are not a
customed to this hard gun free. So I must go
back to my room. Maday my daycomin gut and flowers
on the wall that don't bother me at all, laying
(39:01):
solitaire till don with the deck of fifty one, smoking cigarettes.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
And watching Captain gang to room. I don't tell me.
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Hockyarn. You're concerned about my happiness, but that dot you've
given me is got to I guess the barb fucking
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But you were in nine while you.
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And your friends are were about me. I'm heaven thousand
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Speaker 5 (00:30):
Good. A good morning, New Zealand. My name's Jamie Mackay.
This is the best of the country. Each and every
Saturday morning here on news Talk zby we play the
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(01:15):
movie about the TV program. More about that later with
Celia Jaspers. We've got Shane Jones Mark sUAS Shane the
Prince of the Provinces as well. But we're going to
kick the show off with Jane Smith north Otago Sheep
and beef Farmer post a girl for the Methane Science Accord,
responding to correspondence from a young Northland dairy farmer regarding
his concerns about mandating feed additives as a part of
(01:39):
a climate policy to reduce methane emissions from ruminants. Sounds complicated, Well,
it's not really. There's two sides to the argument. We're
going to get one of them up next. Stefan Vogel
joined us midweek out of Rabobanks Sydney office. We had
a look at the bank's agri commodity outlook for twenty
twenty six. Joe Lucky Easton, Labour's ag spokesperson, defending her
(02:03):
party's lack of any real meaningful policy, especially around those
HAG missions, and has Chippy dodged a political bullet with
the release of his CGT policy. All that on the
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Speaker 5 (02:25):
Jane Smith is a North Otago farmer, regular heir on
the country. You never die wondering what she's thinking. What's
she thinking today? Because as we speak, Jane, you've taken
a break from your lunch break to chat to us.
You're stuck behind a rock or somewhere high on the
hills on your farm there, sheltering from a gale northwesterly.
Are you guys really starting to get quite dry in
North Otago?
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Well, good afternoon, Jamie. Yeah, we certainly are.
Speaker 7 (02:49):
Men there.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
That has been seven weeks of Norwister's. We had a
sitt of a reprieve last week from the Norwiesta, so
that was good for people that were tailing, et cetera.
And I guess that other concerning thing is if it's
norwesty here, it'll be pouring with rain on the west
coast and those sort of western parts of Central Target
that have just had enough Jamie, and in Southend as well,
(03:12):
so it's really tricky. Not as dry as Hawk's day
and definitely as dry as North Canterbury. But we're certainly
getting there, Jamie. And it's just not the best working
conditions working with Blair anyway, live alone in a Northwestern I'm.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
On blair side on this one. I think I think
he'd be the peacemaker in the relationship. I got an
email yesterday from a young Northland dairy farmer. I hope
he doesn't mind me reading this out. I've forwarded it
on to you. His name is Nathan Chestnut. He said,
I'm a young dairy farmer in Northland, still have about
forty or fifty years to go if the country plays
(03:44):
its cards right. So that's a good, ambitious and positive
approach to take the start with. He's very really worried
because he says Norway has legislated a mandate that all
dairy cattle must be fed with a feed additive as
a part of its climate policy. Farmers are reporting health
issues amongst their animals. I abnormal behavior, refusal of feed
(04:06):
intake and even death. Now you are, when you're not
farming with Blair, you are the poster girl for the
methane science accord. This is what you guys are banging
on about.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Yeah, well, we've had a lot of concerns about this
for some time now, Jamie, and it's interesting to see
this really highlighted in Denmark over the last few weeks.
And obviously, as some of your listeners will know, the
active ingredient is let me get this right, three nitro
oxy pro panel, which is THREEP. So it's essentially an
(04:38):
enzyme that's used by a nathanologenic microbes that produce methane
to block the enzyme, so essentially works to alter the
microbio in the stomach, which is particularly concerning given all
the knowledge we now have around the stomach by health
really being a key tenant in being healthy, whether you're
a cow or a human, and that is really concerning.
(05:01):
So and I guess what we've looked into is as
we know that the consumers generally do not want to
consume it, and you know, and their meat and their milk,
and why would you farmers don't want to use it
because of the because of the cost and the no
rational rational reason why you'd.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Have to use it.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
And also you know, again ninety three percent of our
two thousand farmers in New Zealand that we've sive had
said they will not use it. Now the Danish government
had mandated its uses, Nathan Rightney says, and their intense
farmings obviously quite too.
Speaker 8 (05:33):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
It's a feed lot system rather than our our free
range pastoral systems here. So they've done that to appease
the climate change colt over there. And last week both
the government and the Danish Veterinary Association issue the press
release allowing farmers to actually withdraw from using it if
they suspect health conditions and because animal welfare has been compromised.
(05:55):
And I now see that the UK have also stopped
the trials that they were doing with it as well.
So again really concerning that we are currently putting taxpayer
money into essentially the same the same type of feed
editors and vaccines et cetera that will be altering you know,
the natural ruminante processes.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Jamie, Jane, come on, let's be honest here. This is
you just shoving a bowlus right up the backside of
agri zero n Z.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Well again, Jamie, you know that the big concerns here
are you know, animal health concerns. We don't know the
long term impact. But also the biggest one is actually
they're not needed at all. All of these tools will
make about as much difference to global temperatures as painting
every sense post in the country would, So that would
be expensive, it would sound good, it would look nice,
but it means it's totally meaningless to global temperatures. And
(06:44):
you know, it's really interesting any time you ask a
politician or an overpaid bureaucrat or a well funded scientist
that's doing methane mitigation sites what difference any of this
will make to global temperatures, and they cannot answer it,
and instead, of course, they roll up that line about
our global customer, this is what they want. So, you know,
junk food companies, Meisla, McDonald's, this is what they want.
(07:05):
And the really sad thing is it was now in
a country that's paying what is it, two million dollars
an hour of just Sinder's interest off an hour, we've
now cocked up nearly a billion dollars on chasing me
rainbows Jamien. Imagine if that same money had been spent
on enhance and by diversity, by security, water quality, water storage,
(07:26):
pest control. And it really concerns me that we're we're
hearing Christopher climate change lots and still rolling out that
line we must meet our climate, our carbon zero by
twenty fifty. And it's an irrational response, a response to it, Jamie.
And you know three hundred billion dollars could be clocked
up by then, and that's what's at one hundred hospitals
(07:47):
and ten years at the health budget, Jamie. So I
will not you know, I will not back down some
fightings on this, Jamie, because again it's not whether or
not climate change it is or isn't happening, it's how
we respond to it, Jamie. And this is absolutely irrational.
And again, if you look at photosynthesis and I've just
written a article from the New Zealand Herald on this,
(08:07):
it's a closed loop. Ruminant animals are simply as one
cog in the wheel. So we actually, you know, on
a molecule for molecule basis, only three percent of the cotos,
all by grass, ends up being returned as methane. And
it's a very simple back of the envelope stuff. In fact,
I explained this to a first year high school agg
class last week and they said, yeah, we know that
(08:30):
they know that, so it's very strange to their AC
sector leaders. Our research scientists continue to waste money in
this area and I actually I want to apologize to
the taxpayer because we are literally wasting money that could
be going into some real R and D.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Jamie, Okay, Look on the bright side, Jane, at least
with Chippy's capital gains tax, you're going to get three
free visits to the doctor each year. I hope you
get some rain in North Otago.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Thanks Jammy, you're concerned about Jane Smith.
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and demand factors, Shape and global Agriculture and twenty twenty
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Speaker 7 (10:14):
I would have thought that, Uh yeah, now, Jamie, Look,
we all know how much the export destinations and export
markets of the world are impacted by the political positions.
But maybe very briefly, this is a global report and
it was released last week and we've already seen that
mister Trump has changed his mind on beef tariffs. So
(10:36):
with that there are the changes. And the one thing
we mentioned is what is certain is basically the uncertainty remains,
so we've seen that one coming in. I think for
New Zealand, the changes here in the tariffs are actually
nothing bad. It will go back for the beef in
quota trade from the fifteen percent where we've faced now
to slightly under one percent. So that's a good kind
(10:59):
of level playing now with the ones including us here
in Australia.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Idea ste I'm sorry, do you think this could be
the beginning of the end for Trump's tariffs?
Speaker 7 (11:09):
Look, I think the message we've already conveayed for many,
many months is that the threat of a tariff is
more powerful to the president's Trump in the negotiations than
the actual tariff. So whenever the consumer hurts, and with that,
especially on the meat and food prices here, the consumer
in the US is hurting, he's making changes. I don't
(11:29):
think it will be the end of tariff, but it
might be the end of terriffs or the more exceptions
to come for some of the food products that really
matter to the masses.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
You mentioned geo politics, here's a question for you, and now,
are we now moving into like a Cold war regime
China versus the US as opposed to Russia versus the
US in the sixties.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Well, we've already had that thesis for many years out
there that the are or the front are shaping more
into a Cold war area. However, if you look with
a Royce most recent treat deal, things even between the
US and China have calmed a little bit down, but
honestly they're only kicking the can one year down the road.
(12:16):
So with that, the good news out of the deal
between China and the US is basically we will not
see the port terriffs implemented, which could have really changed
the way that the freight market is reacting. We get
some more certainty that some soybeans out of North America
move into that Chinese market. But overall for US in
New Zealand and Australia, I think the grain market takes it,
(12:38):
and that's for your feeding of costs probably important. Takes
it in a way that there are plenty soybeans in
the world market and China will anyway get it from
wherever they can get it. So with that right now
they're buying in the US it makes sense it's cheap.
They will move in a few months back over to
South America because that's where the volumes will come with
a new harvest in let's say February March, so that
(13:01):
China does what makes sense for China. The US wants
to do what makes sense for the US. But the
confronting to sites are not easy to overlap. So with that,
I think there's a bit of window dressing those in
those trade deals.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Stephan, sorry to come over the top of you here,
but I am limited on time. I want to quickly
have a look at some of these individual commodities. Dairy,
we have a global dairy trade auction. Tonight, futures market
is pointing to perhaps another two percent fall and whole
milk powder. I see the futures market for New Zealand
and I appreciate that yours is a global report for
(13:34):
the twenty sixth season. Was it nine dollars seventy three
last time I locked?
Speaker 8 (13:38):
So?
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Is that ten dollars? Milk price here in New Zealand
under severe threat?
Speaker 7 (13:44):
We fear there's a bit of pressure still coming from
the world market, because if we're looking into twenty six
there is continued growth in production in the big export
markets from the US but also from South America coming
into the market. So the forward curve is pointing a
little to the upside, but overall we see that market
pretty much going sideways to put in the US at
(14:06):
least the futures market sideways to maybe slightly higher. But
the volumes that are coming in the world market will
give us here in New Zealand probably be a bit
of a hard time because we need to get our
volumes into that Asian market.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
It seems that there's nothing but good news for base.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
Well for BF, yes, definitely well and mister Trump's changes
in mind came quicker than we could even write the report.
So I think for New Zealand the good news is
basically we're moving from a fifteen percent teriff back to
in quota tariffs of less than one percent. That brings
us more or less at a level playing field with Australia,
which moves from ten percent to nothing. We still have
(14:44):
Mexico not being able to move into that US market
because of a disease, and if you look at others,
the Brazilians, that's the big question mark right now, what happens.
Remember they got an extra forty percent tariff on top
of the reciprocal terraffs and the market for now still
ex fact that forty percent tariff will remain in place
for a while longer. So overall, the issue we're seeing
(15:05):
there for the Brazilians is that they may have a
bit of a tougher time to get in the US market,
which is good news for US.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
And I want to quote one of your final numbers,
GDP growth forecast for this year at two point nine.
Interestingly for twenty twenty six at two point seven. So
the world economy is still in a sticky place. Hey,
Stefan Vogel out of Rabobank's Sydney office, Really appreciate your
time on the country.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Thanks having me all the best the.
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Speaker 5 (15:38):
Joe Luxton as Labour's agriculture spokesperson. But Joe Luxton, could
you be the next Minister of Agriculture. I'm starting to
get worried.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Oh why would be? Were you? Jamie?
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Wow? Let me think? Let me count the ways the
Greens to party Maori, the end of farming as we
know it?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Oh, look that bollocks Jamie, and you know it you
know it under the last labor government that wasn't the
end of farming, was it.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Well, you tried your very best with he walker Ickinawa.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Look, it's a different different Labor Party, different caucus now,
and we're focused on labor. And if you if people
out there want change, if they're concerned about the Greens
and they're concerned about five tonight and vote for labor
is what I say.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Let's be honest. Farmers aren't your constituency. Farmers won't get
you the Treasury bench as they're probably going to be
a nuisance in some ways because you never wouldn't. Whatever
you do, you're not going to win them over. So
you know your constituency is urban New Zealand that's how
you'll win the election.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Look, Labor governs for everybody, Jamie, not just one particular
group or the other. I mean you could you could
flip that on its side and say that, well, okay,
then national must be the only only part of it
looks after farmers and not others. So I just don't
believe that for a second.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Jamie well On instant tells me and David Seymour tell
me they look after farmers as well. I'd pick on
you a wee bit, Joe, and you're such a nice person.
I don't like doing this. But when are you going
to have some egg policy for me? For instance, what
is Labor's emissions policy? We know that under the current government,
eggs not on the ets. There's no pricing of emissions.
(17:15):
That won't happen under a Labor led government.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
I'm not going to tell you what our climate change
or emissions reductions policies will be. Gibra Russell as our
climate spokesperson, she's currently away at the moment. In what
we do know is obviously the government has currently reduced
its emissions for methane targets, and we have asked to
see the information and the science and the advice they
(17:41):
received as to how they came to that position, and
we're still waiting on that as well. So I don't
have anything further to say on our we've emissions reductions
or climate policy.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Well, I'll wait with bited breath for some policy. Look
as net zero by twenty fifty now a lost core.
I see some governments around the world are dumping it.
The Australian opposition is dumping it.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I don't think that we should give up. But it
is concerning to see the things that this government is
doing that that seems to be moving away from that,
with the different policies initiatives that they are getting rid
of and scrapping or reducing just.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Quickly to finish on Chippy's capital gains tax. Has he
dodged a bit of a political bullet here because it
seems to have been at least met with a fifty
to fifty reception, maybe even better depending on which pole
you look at, because in the past it's always been
thought of as a poison chalice. But the reception and
at labor you must be reasonably pleased that you've been
(18:44):
able to fly this kite and it hasn't met with
widespread anger.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
No, I think it's I think it's a really great,
great policy. And often when you introduce taxes or other things,
people sort of they get it up in arms about it,
don't they. But when people people can actually see and
understand what that money that is raised from that will
be spent for, specifically on those three doctors visits, free
doctor's visits per Anna, then people can then people feel
(19:11):
a lot better about those things. And we've kept it
super simple. So it's only on profit on commercial or
residential properties, excluding the film come and excluding farms.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Yeah yeah, okay, well that's good. Why didn't you make
the spend more targeted? I mean giving everybody, including you
and me, a free doctor's visit. It's a complete waste
of time, and it's human nature. You get to December
and November this time of the year and you go, oh,
I haven't had the third free doctor's visit. I might
go and get a full check up, a warrant of
fitness from my doctor. You're just going to clog the
health system. Why not put all that money that you'll
(19:44):
get eventually from a capital gains tax just straight into
the health budget and let them decide where to spend
it best.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I completely disagree with you, Jamie. So are you saying
that you and I, if we get free doctor's visits,
that then maybe we should look to be paying when
we arrive at emergency department too. It just doesn't work
that way, Jamie. You know you cannot start.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Ay emergency departments, Joe, are for emergencies. If we're going
along to our GP, people like you and I should
be paying. The health system's got enough challenges without us
bludging on it.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
And we have other policies coming out that will help
to tackle that as well that you'll be pleased to
hear when they come out, you know, in one of those.
You know, the more the sooner that people get to
see doctor, the better because it ends up costing us
less at the other end, and if they do show
up in the ED department. And the other thing that
we announced recently, and I'm not sure if we have two,
is the free civical screening for everyone as well, which
(20:36):
is a fantastic policy.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Well I hope it's only for the women, not everyone,
but anyhow, Joe Luxton, I'm going to await this policy eagerly,
along with your egg policy. Always good to chat and debate.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
You too, Jamie.
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Speaker 5 (21:02):
You've given me this Good Morning, New Zealand. Welcome back
to the Best of the Country. I'm Jamie Mackay. The
show's brought to you by Rabobank. Were growing a Better
New Zealand together. The musical theme today, as I said,
at the top of the how the Statler Brothers Flowers
on the Wall. Bruce Willis used this for pulp fiction
and Die Hard with a Vengeance in the nineteen nineties.
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Back in the seventies, the instrumental version of this and
eighties and early nineties, I think was used for an
iconic TV show called a Dog Show where they're making
a movie about that TV show, and we're going to
speak next to Celia Jaspers or we caught up with
a Midweek on a wire wrapper farm where they were
filming the show. Shane Jones martoua Shane the Prince of
(21:45):
the Provinces, dismissing David Seymour's claims that New Zealand First
is getting ready to go with labor again. Plus he
had a crack at Sam Neil James, Cameron, Debbie and
Roweri from Tapati Marii and he called Chloe a demonic egg.
Beatter the mind biggles Shane Jones. Before that, though, I
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Speaker 5 (23:19):
So, as we've been talking about today on the show,
a Dog Show is back. No, not the iconic TV program,
but a movie about the iconic TV program. Really looking
forward to this one being released later next year. The
producer is Celia Jaspers. And Celia, you've got a good
background when it comes to rural films if you want,
(23:39):
because you're a longtime producer of Country Calendar. Good afternoon,
welcome to the country.
Speaker 9 (23:44):
Thank you, Jamy to you, Yes, very much like a
young one of the directors of Country Calendar. I've been
doing that for about ten years. I'm about forty plus
episodes over the years and I want to find it.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Oops, you're just cutting out on me. Do you live
in the back block somewhere?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I do.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
I'm just out of Martin ber at the moment. Yeah,
so I farm. We're here with my husband. We've got
a sheep, beef and cropping block. So yeah, I literally
stand in the film world and the farming world a
little bit. So it's a perfectly positioned I think for
this kind of film.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Now, the original Dog Show was on nineteen seventy seven
to nineteen ninety two. And when I think about that
show and we all used to watch it on the Sunday,
I think it was a Sunday I'm thinking of the
late John Gordon, who was the commentator, narrator. He was brilliant.
Speaker 9 (24:30):
Yes, he was so iconic for that time and Frank
Torley of course produced the Dog Show back then, so
and then we're on to do country Calendar as well,
so there's a lot of cross over there. But John
Gordon has involved in the pre production of this script
in this film, and he worked with Alex Galvin, our writer,
to actually work through this dog trailing to understand what
would work for us and what we needed for story,
and he gave his blessing before he passed, and we're
(24:52):
very sad that he can't be with us now to
see this be imagined on the screen. But yes, he
fully endorsed what we were doing and it's such a
positive story for Trialing and all of these Zealand and
certainly the rural sector as well, so we're really hopeful.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
So the film's based effectively on fictitious characters. But do you,
for instance, have a character resembling John Gordon.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
Well, I couldn't say if it's but there is a
commentator who has quite a large beer, so you can
read into that if you like. But his lines were
iconic and certainly the tone of that style is really
fund So we're leaning into as much authenticity of the
seventies as we can.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
So you've got real actors in there and some well
known New Zealanders who are taking leading roles. But in
the extras you've got to have some real dog trialists.
I'm assuming, Celia.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
Really and I think because I'm a documentarian by trade
and I make real I really want to make this authentic.
So posting getting move and we handled dogs. We actually
have reached out to the whole dog trilling community and
a lot of people from Carpany, Hawk's Bay and the
Wairappa clubs have all signed up. We've been casting for
months and months. I've been literally casting dogs, standing and
(25:58):
pat looking a dog, meeting the owners, going right, are
they up for the rigors of this? And so yeah,
We've got a lovely selection of people who have given
a lot of time and a lot of training and
also helping us learn.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Well, Celia, is it more important to be able to
handle the dog well or act in front of a
camera and not be totally wooden?
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (26:15):
I think we could teach people to act that. You
can't teach people to dog very well, so i'd much
either they were good at that. First.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Are you prepared to throw out a couple of names
of the dog trollers sur are involved. I mean I
think back to people like Ginger Anderson, who was famous
back in the day for being on a dog show.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
Absolutely well, Ginger was one of the inspirations and is
an elderly gent now, but we would have loved to
if we could get a few cameos of those kind
of guys as well. But yeah, current trialist Sheena Martin
has given us a lot of time, and Art Eastman
from the Wade Rappa and John Harvey who's the former
president of the Colleague Club I believe, and he lives
in Martin and down the road from us, and he's
been very supportive over the last of three years while
(26:51):
we've been developing it. So yeah, there certainly all the
dogs are real deal and they're all very good at
what they do, so it's pretty cool at introducing them
into the film world. There's poor dogs long to set
last week for our first week, and pretty overwhelming with
all the technology and all the cameras, but they handled
it like pros. They've really been quite amazing. Well.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Lloyd Smith as a former brother in law of John
Gordon and he's still in the currently in the New
Zealand Dog trilling team, but I think he's based down south.
He might have been a bit expensive to get up there.
So what's the guts of the storyline, because I'm reading
that the story or the film story centers on Jack
and this is wonderful, a retired sheep dog trialist who
(27:30):
must come out of retirement with his granddaughter to save
the family farm by winning one last competition.
Speaker 9 (27:38):
Yep, exactly, that's the synopsis there, and it is. It's
a lovely it's a family story, very fictitious, but it
is a sort of multi generation and Jack is our
elderly if you like, grandfather character and his very enthusiastic
granddaughter is desperate to dog trial. But Jack was embarrassed
on National TV on the Dog Show and he doesn't
want to trial anymore. So she's really convincing him to
(27:58):
come back. And some struggles, struggles are happening on the
farm and they end up having to go into a
teams competition, which we don't do very often in New Zealand,
but it has happened overseas in the UK. And yes,
we've got a very huge teams event if you like,
is FINALI and so a lot of dogs, a lot
of people and yeah, they see who wins.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
They face an old rival and the movie is described
as an intergenerational redemption story. Any good movie, Celia, and
I don't need to tell you this because you're much
more experienced than I am in this field needs a baddie.
Have we got a baddie in this one?
Speaker 8 (28:30):
We do.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
We do have a villain, yes, played by the David
Winnem from Australia who was in the Hobbit and a
lot of you. So yeah, David's really enjoying this. He's
loving all the airways, baddie.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
We haven't got a great line. So we're expecting this
thing to come out late twenty twenty six and I'm
sure with the iconic music tag line which we've been
playing today, Celia, this is going to be so well
received and it will bring back so many wonderful nostalgic
memories for many New Zealanders.
Speaker 9 (28:58):
Oh we hope so too, and we just will you
all love it. Every time you mentioned the name, everyone
just goes. I remember that from when I was a kid,
So we know there's a lot of support there. And
travel around New Zealand and all cinemas and the provincial
cinemas as well as the city, so we're really hopeful
that we get a lot of support as well. And
I just think we a lovely family film to take
your kids long term and really enjoy, enjoy the world
of the seventies.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Celia Jaspers, thank you very much for your time today
on the Country. Looking forward to seeing this movie go well.
Speaker 9 (29:22):
Thank you, Jamie.
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Speaker 5 (29:31):
Shane Jones is the Prince of the province is the
self titled Martua Shane. But here's a question for you, Shane.
Are you and Winston getting ready to go with labor?
According to David C.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Moore, you are, Oh.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
Look, this is one of David's and passioned out bursts.
There's some ongoing debate as to the real value of
the regulatory legislation that is bored and look, he's very
proud of the legislation, but we need to make sure
that we have a manifesto next time around that speaks
to the issues. But no, there's no agenda to breathe
(30:05):
life into the old relationship with sindor or inheritors at all.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Minjie Winston has said he's never going to go with
Chris Hepkins. He backstabbed him and all that sort of stuff.
But if there was a change in labor leadership, and
they're obviously probably won't be before the election, he technically
could change his mind and cover his backside.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
You South Islanders have got to spend less time in
the back paddic imagining all these strange, eerie premonition riddle
false realities. Park it up, parking up. We know exactly
what we're doing, and this has said that we're not
joining with them again once bit and twice shy, And
(30:45):
I'm no wicker who puts his head back in the
noose second time.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Winston did say when he was speaking to mister Hoskins,
that's Mike this morning, that it wasn't a bottom line
for him, It is a bottom line for David Seymour. So,
taking you at your word, I expect you to give
ground on that one and coalition negotiations if you indeed
get the Treasury benches back. Now. I must congratulate you,
Shane Jones on some of your rhetoric around the Greens.
(31:10):
It always amuses me. You've labeled the Greens idea about
mining as ideological compost and a foolish belief that somehow
prosperity comes from a community garden, beautiful work.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
You know as well as I do, that the Green
recipe is economic treason.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
You know that, well, yes I do. But I'm hoping
for some more rhetoric from you. Well for all my listeners.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
No no, no, no, no. Look, look, the bottom line
is that every time Chloe stands up in Parliament, she's
like some sort of demonic egg better all full of rhetoric,
all full of slogans designed to scare away investment, destroy
the god fearing ability of Kiwi's, of Aussie's, of international
(31:59):
investors to reinvigorate our mining. I've got every right to
call her out, I mean these ecomaniacs. Also, what about
what about them over in Brazil full of hot air
trying to denounce New Zealand for bringing some common sense,
some pragmatism and standing up for the cow owners and
the farmers of New Zealand make the South Island should
(32:21):
be on top of every people, every hill, on the
side of every white beat stand and clapping and applauding
me at West. Put it out there and tell Chloe
and Labor and anyone else else who stands in the
way of economic prosperity meet me at the ballot box,
and I believe I've got cues on my site.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
You've also picked a fight with Sam. Neil gets dangerous
to pick fights with popular celebrities. Shane Jones.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Well, I've no doubt in my mind that whilst Sam
is a beloved character, the people who vote for me
are the mums and dads who want their children to
have a future in New Zealand. Just last night at
the Carrigiri h Hotel there are a whole lot of
young men and women saying they're packing up and going
to Wazzi. Why because they see at the moment better
(33:08):
opportunities to fly in and fly out and working in
their mining sector. I want to recreate. I want to
develop that option for them here in New Zealand. Now, look,
I know Sam and his cohort may be a bit
upset with me, but look if Sam gets too frisky
with me as you go back to Jurassic.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Park, well that Sam sorted out the most annoying one
act a celebrity for me, Hollywood heavyweight, whatever you want
to call him, is James Cameron, that well known Wira
Rappa farmer who jets in and out of Los Angeles
by private jet, and I forget about that carbon footprint.
But then he's telling us how to live and even worse,
telling us out of farm.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
James Cameron asserted that in those bleak days of just
Cinda Aduran that the future was synthetic beef. He can
take his synthetic beliefs, he can take his anti Kiwi
attitudes and put them where the sun doesn't shine. He
has no business as an American moving to New Zealand
(34:09):
taking for granted all of the liberties, the rights, and
the heritage of us Kiwis. And it comes off the
back of the farm, not only denouncing but undermining the
traditions that have made places like Northland and White of
Upper Key legacy destinations in the nation of our in
the history of our nation.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Just to finish on you and I are both keen
observers of American politics, what did you make And I
know you've got to be careful because you're a government minister,
but what did you make of Trump's decision to drop
tariffs in our case on beef and Kiwi for it
good news for us, but I mean he flip flops daily.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
That bloke.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
Well Winston told us all along that what happens on
a Monday may not be the case on a Friday,
and fair cop do good marks for Todd McLay. Todd
said when these decisions were announced, and I hope the
cockies down the line accept this, that he would not
give up. He'd continue to advocate and point out that
(35:10):
we're not a threat to America's economic viability. We're actually
a positive contributor. And I think that Winston and Todd
had it right. Don't go out there with neon lights
trying to pick a scrap. Just quietly move away and
let the move on and let the facts speak into
that political echo chamber. And they've kicked a goal.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
So you've got good people like Todd Maclay who's doing
a great job in trade. I mean, how could you
swap that for Raweri and Debbie?
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Come on, Shane well Lawidi and Debbie. As I've said,
Rakin to the Moor soon becoming extinct. They will never
be seen again after the next election. I said in Parliament.
It's in the Bible. The house that it's divided amongst itself,
it perishes and collapses. They have basically the hopes of
(36:00):
the Farno and the households that sent them to parliament.
They're wasting our time and money. And look they turn
up with all of these strange feathers and colors and
sort of crazy rhetoric, and people have moved away from them.
They are never ever going to be in cabinet. And
the short time they've blighted New Zealand politics was thankfully
(36:24):
coming to an end.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Yeah, and some of that traditional mari garb as well,
like that the cowboy had.
Speaker 8 (36:31):
Yeah, well, I'm really disappointed that he's bought a fine
tradition into disrepute. It was Dover who started wearing a hat,
and of course it already says, oh well, I wear
it because cowboys was the nickname for the married returnion
from the East Coast. Don't exploit, don't weaponize a proud
tradition of New Zealand history just so you can cover
(36:51):
your foolish, toxic ideology.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Shane Jones, are you never disappointed? Thanks for your time
today on the country. Appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
Demonic egg beater. See you later.
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We're growing a better New Zealand together. That's us done
(37:31):
and dusted for the day. But there's lots of stuff
in front of us, especially on the sporting front. We've
got that third ODI against the Windy's two pm this
afternoon in the Tron and the final All Blacks test
in a pretty testing season really at Cardiff, the All
Black B team up against Wales. Will be interested to
(37:52):
see how Ruben Love goes. Very exciting young player. Good
to see Finley Christy get a run as well. Ginger Butler.
I reckon he did well when he played for the
Orblecks this season. All right, that's me. I'm out of here.
You guys, take care, catch you back next Saturday morning.
I'm leaving you with the theme to the Dog Show
minus the lyrics. We use the instrumental version. Back in
(38:14):
the seventies and eighties and early nineties, me at all.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Playing solitaire till down with the deck of fifty one,
smoking sagattes, and watching Captain Kanguru.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I don't tell me I.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Have nothing to do.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
It's good to see you.
Speaker 9 (38:37):
I must go.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
I know I look a fright anyway, but has not
accustom to this alone, and my shoes are not a
customed to this hard gun free. So I must go
back to my room. Maday my daycomin gut and flowers
on the wall that don't bother me at all, laying
(39:01):
solitaire till don with the deck of fifty one, smoking cigarettes.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
And watching Captain gang to room. I don't tell me.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I'm nothing to do. Don't tell me I'm nothing to do.
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