The Country 03/10/25: Richard Loe talks to Hamish McKay

We talk rugby with a former All Black, ahead of this weekend’s big clash with the Wallabies.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Actually, I could just see you Richard Lowe on a
guitar with a big hat Yellowstone rip wheeler like singing
a bit of country music. I mean, that'd be your go,
wouldn't it, Lowy.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Good afternoon Homers? Yeah, probably a wee bit. But I
don't think I could handle Beth though.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
No, I don't think not even you could handle Beth.
Although I suspect you probably need somebody like Beth, and
I suspect that the Beth in your world probably does
have to control you like Beth. Right, I won't go
any further on that. When you're not named in a
team from one week to the next, Lowy, you dropped, right.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Why do we have to have a Yeah, once upon
a time, I think you were. But I think it
was John Hart that started to introduce that rotation. And
then I can remember right back to went there. I
thought him and grizz had the side over the ninety
one World Cup, played the first game against England, and

(00:59):
then I was sat on the sideline for the second
game and Pervy took over, and that was the stuff.
I think that era was the start of rotation.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Rotation because you went dropped, I mean Pervy with all
jurispect you were you were, you were the king of it.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
You're not playing. If you're not playing, you take yeah,
it's a it's yeah. Some of the it's very very
different these days. The way you get a niggle, you
don't play. Yeah. Gone are the days you're carried on
Friday minutes, week in, week out. Now, after four or

(01:35):
five tests, you're a wee bit banged up, so you
need to rest well. You'll be able to tell me
when's the next test after this weekend, So you've got
a bit of downtime to recover. Having you missed the
Proctor for.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Exactly that whole banged up thing. All that's done for
me is opened the door for Quintupie to play a
good game at center and Billy Proctor doesn't get another chance.
It is Billy Proctor hasn't as delivered quite as they
had wanted, and I feel like banged up as an excuse,
and they would like what Toupia did late in the
game the other week, so they're going to give him
a shot. Same with Satiti second season Blues. The bloke's

(02:10):
not firing on all cylinders like he showed, so we're
going to go with lackeye at number eight, we just
need to say it how it is.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I don't think so, Tt. You're being very generous to him.
He's got a real dose of the second season blues
and I know he's had a couple of injuries, but hey,
the All Black jerseys meant to be about those that
are performing and performing week in week out, and that's
probably why Ardie severe. It doesn't matter what number jersey

(02:37):
he's got, on what position he's playing, He's there because
he performs week in week out. Like we saw during
Super Rugby form Moanna pacifica yep, okay quickly.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
The Wallaby is Lowy well Skelton and Rob Valentini their
big bodies and against and last week that's possibly what
they missed. They will be a much tougher position even
though they got within a few points of us in
at Eden Park. A much tougher proposition in Perth. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
As we know these games between the Wallabies and the
All Blacks, they're always close in a lot of ways.
And I don't I expect I said before last week's test,
I thought it was their opportunity. If they had have
got up over the All Blacks, then it would have
been all on on Perth because the cup would have
been on the line, and I'm one that believes it

(03:25):
should be on the line every week and that would
really spice things up. But I don't think they'll, you know,
they'll make that much more difference. I think the All
Blacks are still probably more mobile and with the changes
that have been made to the pack, they're definitely more
mobile than the Wallabies. And I don't think Wallabies have

(03:49):
got one or two in their team that are quite soft,
and I think that's a big difference.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Al Right, I will see you and i'll analyze this
on Monday. I'm going to call you back because I've
got a slightly different view on it. We might talk Monday,
if that's all right.