November 3, 2024 • 9 mins
The Act Party Leader and soon-to-be Deputy PM talks about a peaceful transition with Winston, gun laws, why he's no fan of a CGT, and the prospects for the US election.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's ask this man. His name is David Seymour, ACT
Party leaders soon to be Deputy PM. David just before
I talk about the US selection, how's it going to
go down with Winston when you take his job?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, I guess it's really both our job at at
different times, according to the agreement we signed, So I
would imagine pretty professionally dislike the rest of the government.
In fact, what I got to tell you, our government
is far more cohesive and cooperative and professional. The Labor
(00:35):
Party and greenpay's worst fears than the media for that matter.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Mind Joe I reckon Winston's quite comfortable in that position
as deputy Prime minister. He might do a trump, He
might say to you, well, maybe we need to renegotiate
this result.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well, unfortunately the result for him, the result comes from
the voters, and it's actually got quite a few people
voted for Acts than the other party. So I don't
think that that's really much of an issue. You sign
an agreement and actually ultimately it's up to the Prime
(01:12):
Minister of the date nominate the person who's the deputies.
So yeah, a lot of people like to make fun
of that, but I don't think it's very much of
a story.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Here's a question for you, though, have you been a
more you the ACT Party been a more troublesome coalition
partner than New Zealand? First because I'm sure when you
announced your coalition most people thought, oh, well, Act and
Nationally going to get along famously. Winston will be the
fly and the aortment. But maybe it's been the other
(01:43):
way around. You've been a bit niggly.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well, you know, if trouble film is a bad thing, no,
But if what you're talking about is standing up for
the things that the people censure, there to do that
as our government needs less tax, less spending, less red tape,
and a sound commitment to equal rights for all, you know.
(02:07):
I guess that's one thing about Actor is that we've
got a pretty clear belief system and that's why the
people support us, spoke for us. They want to see
those values that the country is ultimately built on brought
to the fore. So if that gets interpreted is troublesome,
then I make no apology. Our job is to make
(02:27):
sure that this is a country where no matter who
you are, where your ancestors came from, the actually have
a shot at making the master of life, not filling
out a whole lot of forms and paying a whole
lot of tax or being judged for who you are.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
David Simour, does it disappoint or surprise you that there
seems to be an appetite out there amongst the voters
of New Zealand sixty percent or better we're led to
belief for a capital gains tax.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, it does a bit, you know, because ultimately I
need or I want our country to be a place
that is wealthy and successful, where people work and save
and invest, get better plant and equipment and ultimately.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Get paid more money. I mean, that's what it's all about.
And the only way you do that is through a
set of values that it's not what you have today
that matters, it's what you can create tomorrow. Now there's
a whole lot of people on the left, particularly the Greens,
who say, actually, your problems are caused by someone else's success,
(03:29):
and therefore the solutions to your problems and to take
other people's success away. Now that set of values is dismal.
It won't actually make us richer, it will leave all
of us worse off. In fact, as Margaret that is
to say, the only thing that socialism does for the
poor is give them more company. So I am a
bit disappointed if that's how people feel. There's always going
(03:51):
to be a certain number of people who are on
the left and just want to take other people's money.
That's just the way they are. Sometimes you can cure them,
smart ones, get some economics in them and they come
back over Some of them are just hopeless. However, the
people that worry me the most are the people that
are normally sensible and they say, oh, well yeah, but
(04:13):
if we have a capital gain tax, it's a good compromise,
and I just think of that much of a surrender monkey.
You need to take a good look at yourself. This
country is built on values that people can make tomorrow
better than today through their efforts. It's not based on
the idea that you can text yourself to prosperity.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Have you been there hunting over the weekend?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
No? No, I haven't. But Nicole McKee and Cameron Luxton
and a few of xmps have been at the Seeker Show,
which is I've been to a few previous years and
it's certainly a great celebration for a group of New
Zealanders who like to get out and hunt people that
have been run down and kind of persecuted. Sort of
(04:54):
the funny things about Disindada and she preached kindness and inclusion,
but she was never back could's about beating up on
a small group of people, which she often did. License
firemonus or one of those, and so getting together as
hunters and saying well, actually, these are people that do
a lot for conservation, who actually really value the land
(05:16):
and extremely responsible for firearms. I hear it was a
good weekend for all. I was doing streetball the meetings
of the Gypsum Electerate, but certainly Nicole McKee and x
other p's got a really great reception there.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well, there's nothing Nicole enjoys more than firing a shot
on anger.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
It's actually amazing that there are still deer lift in
New Zealand given Nicole's exploits, or at least the versions
I've heard about.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
You're actually you raise a good point from a biosecurity
point of view. We really do need the weekend warriors
to get out into our bush and cull some of
those deer and pigs and other pests.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, you're right. You know I've enited Australia a while back,
and they don't have deer over there, which amazed me.
And it was probably, in hindsight a mistake from an
ecological point of view to introduce them along with and
stoats and a few other things. However, they are here,
and if it wasn't for hunters getting out and shooting them,
(06:14):
they'd be causing a lot more damage than they already do.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
US selection call it.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Well, if you want to know who I think will
when I'm not saying who I want to win, but
I think Trump will. And the reason for that I
look at poly Market. Three billion dollars worth of bets
basically have changed hands on poly Market and they've got
Trump ahead about sixty forty last I checked. So I
don't know all the ins and outs of who's going
(06:42):
to win, which station, which Poland companies reliable, or whether
people are going to change their mind at the last minute,
but a whole lot of people that do think about
those things have put three billion bucks on a Trump.
I think from New Zealand's point of view, you know,
the world's getting tougher, the US is looking inwards and
we have to work with others in the White house,
so you know, we're just going to have to hand tough.
(07:04):
I suspect that New Zealand's going to have to steend
more on defense. That's one of the realities. Regardless of
who's in the way, they're going to ask us to
pull our weight more so. Now that's a bit of
a bugger for us because for a long time we've
had pretty low defense ending and as it turned out,
not being in any real danger. I don't think we
(07:26):
can continue to do that.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Carmela one would be the best for New Zealand, certainly
for New Zealand exports well.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
If you look at them from the point of view.
If you're New Zealand farmer, you want to be able
to get access to the US and you don't want
to have big tariff whacked on you. I guess one
way is for New Zealand to be seen as a
friend of the United States, and there's more that we
pull our waists in other ways and are seen as
part of their I guess orbit then hopefully, regardless of
(07:57):
who's in there, New Zealand will continue to be looked
on favorably by our American friends.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Have you seen the skit from Saturday Night Live with
Kamala Harrison KRMLA impersonator. I've just forgotten her name.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It's very good, No, I wish I had I hear that.
It's very very funny, and I got me thinking. Imagine
if there was a Jamie McKay impersonator and you were
interviewed by him. I just think absolutely brilliant. You get
out the Emerson's makaisa and knock off a few conversations
(08:32):
over a few mackaiss It could be absolutely fabulous.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Well, I would like that, hey, But David, at the moment,
you can forget about the Emerson's mackayser because I'm on
the wall path promoting and other bear with Emerson's. It's
called the Farmer's Poor. We might we might have to
send you some. Are you still drinking at the moment
or not drinking?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I'm back to drinking very little. But I'm off. I'm
off the I'm off the wagoner on the wagon. I
think I'm off the wagon, but but I still sort
of got I still have got a hand on it,
as I will.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Well, you should rephrase that. People could take that the
wrong way there, David, what do you like potato? Do
you like potato chips.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well I do. Actually, it's probably because I'm at an
age of forty one where your metabolism slows down, so
I actually have to think about these things. But yeah
I do.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, yeah, Well anyhow, everything in moderation, including moderation. So
we've got the farmer's pear poor Bear from Emerson's and
the farmers cut chips from Heartland and they are to
die for. And we're going to tell some of the
punters how they can win some of those a week
but later in the hour, Hey, David Seymour, like me,
(09:40):
you'll be fascinated by what happens this week. Goodness knows
if we'll even have a result this week, but Wednesday,
our time is going to be fascinating. Thanks for some
of yours on a Monday, No
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Worries, Jamie, and hope everyone has a fantastic week.
Let's ask this man. His name is David Seymour, ACT
Party leaders soon to be Deputy PM. David just before
I talk about the US selection, how's it going to
go down with Winston when you take his job?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, I guess it's really both our job at at
different times, according to the agreement we signed, So I
would imagine pretty professionally dislike the rest of the government.
In fact, what I got to tell you, our government
is far more cohesive and cooperative and professional. The Labor
(00:35):
Party and greenpay's worst fears than the media for that matter.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Mind Joe I reckon Winston's quite comfortable in that position
as deputy Prime minister. He might do a trump, He
might say to you, well, maybe we need to renegotiate
this result.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well, unfortunately the result for him, the result comes from
the voters, and it's actually got quite a few people
voted for Acts than the other party. So I don't
think that that's really much of an issue. You sign
an agreement and actually ultimately it's up to the Prime
(01:12):
Minister of the date nominate the person who's the deputies.
So yeah, a lot of people like to make fun
of that, but I don't think it's very much of
a story.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Here's a question for you, though, have you been a
more you the ACT Party been a more troublesome coalition
partner than New Zealand? First because I'm sure when you
announced your coalition most people thought, oh, well, Act and
Nationally going to get along famously. Winston will be the
fly and the aortment. But maybe it's been the other
(01:43):
way around. You've been a bit niggly.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well, you know, if trouble film is a bad thing, no,
But if what you're talking about is standing up for
the things that the people censure, there to do that
as our government needs less tax, less spending, less red tape,
and a sound commitment to equal rights for all, you know.
(02:07):
I guess that's one thing about Actor is that we've
got a pretty clear belief system and that's why the
people support us, spoke for us. They want to see
those values that the country is ultimately built on brought
to the fore. So if that gets interpreted is troublesome,
then I make no apology. Our job is to make
(02:27):
sure that this is a country where no matter who
you are, where your ancestors came from, the actually have
a shot at making the master of life, not filling
out a whole lot of forms and paying a whole
lot of tax or being judged for who you are.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
David Simour, does it disappoint or surprise you that there
seems to be an appetite out there amongst the voters
of New Zealand sixty percent or better we're led to
belief for a capital gains tax.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, it does a bit, you know, because ultimately I
need or I want our country to be a place
that is wealthy and successful, where people work and save
and invest, get better plant and equipment and ultimately.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Get paid more money. I mean, that's what it's all about.
And the only way you do that is through a
set of values that it's not what you have today
that matters, it's what you can create tomorrow. Now there's
a whole lot of people on the left, particularly the Greens,
who say, actually, your problems are caused by someone else's success,
(03:29):
and therefore the solutions to your problems and to take
other people's success away. Now that set of values is dismal.
It won't actually make us richer, it will leave all
of us worse off. In fact, as Margaret that is
to say, the only thing that socialism does for the
poor is give them more company. So I am a
bit disappointed if that's how people feel. There's always going
(03:51):
to be a certain number of people who are on
the left and just want to take other people's money.
That's just the way they are. Sometimes you can cure them,
smart ones, get some economics in them and they come
back over Some of them are just hopeless. However, the
people that worry me the most are the people that
are normally sensible and they say, oh, well yeah, but
(04:13):
if we have a capital gain tax, it's a good compromise,
and I just think of that much of a surrender monkey.
You need to take a good look at yourself. This
country is built on values that people can make tomorrow
better than today through their efforts. It's not based on
the idea that you can text yourself to prosperity.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Have you been there hunting over the weekend?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
No? No, I haven't. But Nicole McKee and Cameron Luxton
and a few of xmps have been at the Seeker Show,
which is I've been to a few previous years and
it's certainly a great celebration for a group of New
Zealanders who like to get out and hunt people that
have been run down and kind of persecuted. Sort of
(04:54):
the funny things about Disindada and she preached kindness and inclusion,
but she was never back could's about beating up on
a small group of people, which she often did. License
firemonus or one of those, and so getting together as
hunters and saying well, actually, these are people that do
a lot for conservation, who actually really value the land
(05:16):
and extremely responsible for firearms. I hear it was a
good weekend for all. I was doing streetball the meetings
of the Gypsum Electerate, but certainly Nicole McKee and x
other p's got a really great reception there.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well, there's nothing Nicole enjoys more than firing a shot
on anger.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
It's actually amazing that there are still deer lift in
New Zealand given Nicole's exploits, or at least the versions
I've heard about.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
You're actually you raise a good point from a biosecurity
point of view. We really do need the weekend warriors
to get out into our bush and cull some of
those deer and pigs and other pests.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, you're right. You know I've enited Australia a while back,
and they don't have deer over there, which amazed me.
And it was probably, in hindsight a mistake from an
ecological point of view to introduce them along with and
stoats and a few other things. However, they are here,
and if it wasn't for hunters getting out and shooting them,
(06:14):
they'd be causing a lot more damage than they already do.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
US selection call it.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Well, if you want to know who I think will
when I'm not saying who I want to win, but
I think Trump will. And the reason for that I
look at poly Market. Three billion dollars worth of bets
basically have changed hands on poly Market and they've got
Trump ahead about sixty forty last I checked. So I
don't know all the ins and outs of who's going
(06:42):
to win, which station, which Poland companies reliable, or whether
people are going to change their mind at the last minute,
but a whole lot of people that do think about
those things have put three billion bucks on a Trump.
I think from New Zealand's point of view, you know,
the world's getting tougher, the US is looking inwards and
we have to work with others in the White house,
so you know, we're just going to have to hand tough.
(07:04):
I suspect that New Zealand's going to have to steend
more on defense. That's one of the realities. Regardless of
who's in the way, they're going to ask us to
pull our weight more so. Now that's a bit of
a bugger for us because for a long time we've
had pretty low defense ending and as it turned out,
not being in any real danger. I don't think we
(07:26):
can continue to do that.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Carmela one would be the best for New Zealand, certainly
for New Zealand exports well.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
If you look at them from the point of view.
If you're New Zealand farmer, you want to be able
to get access to the US and you don't want
to have big tariff whacked on you. I guess one
way is for New Zealand to be seen as a
friend of the United States, and there's more that we
pull our waists in other ways and are seen as
part of their I guess orbit then hopefully, regardless of
(07:57):
who's in there, New Zealand will continue to be looked
on favorably by our American friends.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Have you seen the skit from Saturday Night Live with
Kamala Harrison KRMLA impersonator. I've just forgotten her name.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It's very good, No, I wish I had I hear that.
It's very very funny, and I got me thinking. Imagine
if there was a Jamie McKay impersonator and you were
interviewed by him. I just think absolutely brilliant. You get
out the Emerson's makaisa and knock off a few conversations
(08:32):
over a few mackaiss It could be absolutely fabulous.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Well, I would like that, hey, But David, at the moment,
you can forget about the Emerson's mackayser because I'm on
the wall path promoting and other bear with Emerson's. It's
called the Farmer's Poor. We might we might have to
send you some. Are you still drinking at the moment
or not drinking?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I'm back to drinking very little. But I'm off. I'm
off the I'm off the wagoner on the wagon. I
think I'm off the wagon, but but I still sort
of got I still have got a hand on it,
as I will.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Well, you should rephrase that. People could take that the
wrong way there, David, what do you like potato? Do
you like potato chips.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well I do. Actually, it's probably because I'm at an
age of forty one where your metabolism slows down, so
I actually have to think about these things. But yeah
I do.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, yeah, Well anyhow, everything in moderation, including moderation. So
we've got the farmer's pear poor Bear from Emerson's and
the farmers cut chips from Heartland and they are to
die for. And we're going to tell some of the
punters how they can win some of those a week
but later in the hour, Hey, David Seymour, like me,
(09:40):
you'll be fascinated by what happens this week. Goodness knows
if we'll even have a result this week, but Wednesday,
our time is going to be fascinating. Thanks for some
of yours on a Monday, No
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Worries, Jamie, and hope everyone has a fantastic week.
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