September 4, 2025 • 7 mins
Today's Young Farmer panel features the 2024 and 2025 winners, as we ponder carbon farming, Paris and the Stags.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Farmer Panel with the Iszuzu Dmax, the Kiwi Ute
built Tough with Truck DNA. Today's Farmer panel is the
Young Farmer Panel and we've gone straight to the top drawer. Yes,
the twenty twenty four Young Farmer of the Year FMG
Young Farmer of the Year George Dodson twenty twenty five.
This year's Young Farmer of the Year Hugh Jackson.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Here.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I want to start with you in tr Cow. Congratulations
for wearing your Southland Stags jersey along to a Wykado
Shield challenge. Even though you're living in that province. You're
a true Southlander, even if only by adoption.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Thaggy Jami. Yeah, it was a cool game on Sunday,
that's so sure. I headed along with a lot of
the Tiaki locals and we went in supported the Stags,
even though I'm definitely a wake at a man my
time in south and I really enjoyed supporting the Stags
when I was down there and was fortunate enought to
get a south And shirt given to me when I left.
(01:00):
So great thrill to see the Stags get up and
get the shield, even though it's against my home team.
And also We're really cool to see a good family
friend and local George Reeves get on for the Stags
in the last twenty minutes of the game, so hopefully
they can do it again this weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
George Dodson, you're in Canterbury. That's enemy territory for us
Stags fan But to your credit you were born and
bred in Southland, and like you too because you two
were mates at the Thornbury Young Farmers Club down on
Southland just outside of him for Cargo, you're a Stags
fan as well.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, Jamie, yep, that's absolutely right, one hundred percent support
on the Stags. I suppose south and Canterbury will both
fancy the chances of Stags at the homeground of Rugby
Park and then Canterbury top of the off the top
of the table. Sorry, and you know it'll be certainly
an interesting clash tribalism.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It brings out the best NPC rugby. Let's talk about farming.
I'll stick with you, George, your dairy farming and I
was going to say dun Sandal, but you're in Darfield,
aren't you.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, sort about Dartfield Ways, Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Out Darfield Way. How's the carving going. Are you getting
near the end, getting near the finish line?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, we'll be about three quarters done now, so we
started quite late, but we just finished up our first
three weeks and we're absolutely cranking through them there for
a while, but starting to settle down now, forming a
good routine and really starting to get some stuff done,
which is awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Were you a wee bit concerned about that reasonable drop
in the GDT auction midweek or is that just sort
of what happens at this time a year. Don't panic.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, I suppose it's just pretty standard, isn't it. You know,
we were just hope that it will continue to go
up and it's still looking pretty good, So no complaints
from me.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Hugh Jackson and c R cow congratulations. By the way,
Hugh fronting up on behalf of New Zealand Farmers on
Q and A with Jack Tame. He did a really
I thought, a really telling interview with you, and it's
about the dangers and the perils of carbon farming. I'm
pretty hot on this one and I was reading online
this morning another four farms have gone in central Hawks Bay.
(03:07):
You're no fan at all.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
No, it's not a not a good thing. For our country,
in our industry going forward, having these pine trees planted
on land it should be crazing livestock. We've seen it
just across the fence from us at home and in
tak firsteen hundred hectares of a neighboring property went into
pine trees over the last two years and it's a
(03:31):
real shame to see good productive land going into it.
We need to these these rules are not going far enough,
I don't think, and we really need to push them,
push them harder to make sure that we as young
farmers are not faced with really adverse advers consequences going forward.
And how the government thinks they're going to double exports
(03:53):
whilst at the same time planting thousands of hecteas into
farms of farming and to pine trees for carbon farming
is beyond me. So it just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Hugh Jackson out of trw surrounded or certainly some carbon
farming happening in your neck of the woods. It's not
only the loss of productive land, it's also the effect
on pastoral farming neighbors such as yourself. And I'm thinking
of the feral pests.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, one hundred per pigs and their huge issue in
the areas of the community already, and the pine trees
are going to make them even worse. Also, the community
toll that has as well, less people around, less jobs.
I was talking to a young girl this week and
she said she's finding it really hard to find a
(04:43):
job full stuff, and the change of land use and
less livestock around us is definitely not helping that. In
addition to that, you know the neighboring property they're went
in beside us, that's for jobs and families that have
left the district. So really needs to needs to be.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
George Dodson, you're farming on the Canterbury planes. There are
much carbon farming happening around you. Dr Mike Joy would
be a proponent of carbon farming anything to get rid
of the nitrates in the waterways that you dirty dairy
farmers are putting in there.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, well, weren't those comments pretty disappointing, But I don't
think we really need to give him much more airtime, Jammy,
And no, there doesn't seem to be a heck of
a lot of carbon planting going on in my area. Obviously,
the planes are irrigated really high quality land what we
are seeing down sort of require ways as some apple
orchards going in, which is interesting. Land news changed there,
(05:37):
but it's just a lot of dairy conversions. I suppose
it's probably cropping farms going into dairy as opposed to
trees or anything else.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Just to finish on you both, young farmers, what do
you say about the Paris agreement? Do we stay or
do we go? Or start with you, Hugh Jackson.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's an interesting one, Jamie, and I'm probably not fully
qualified to come on it properly, having not a huge
experience in the trade, you know, in the trade space.
But yeah, obviously we want to don't want to shut
too many doors. But at the same time, we don't
(06:14):
want to have to reduce emissions at the peril of
our industry and put undue stress and pressure on everyone.
I think the crazy thing about us reducing our emissions
in the agriculture space, being really efficient producers already means
that other people and if we have to reduce or
(06:37):
produce less because of it means that other people around
the world will produce more. In a national or global
emissions has increased, So it doesn't seem seem to make
sense really does it now, that's.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Called carbon leacage. George, what do you say.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, I'd probably say just about quite similar to what
Hughes said. Really, I'm not super qualified to speak on it,
but I will say it's slightly concerning to see that,
you know, the likes of the coal and power generation,
that we will import products from Indonesia rather than using
our own better quality coal for the sake of so,
you know, exporting our footprint, which is quite concerning. And
(07:12):
like Hugh says, if we're stopping production here and as
one of the cleanest, greenest food producers in the world,
then it's just going to go to another country that's
going to do it at the lowest cost possible with
no regard to the environment. So that would be my
take on that, And I think there's a place for
the agreement, but we probably just said find out how
we can make it work better for us.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
George Dodson twenty twenty four Young Farmer of the Year,
Hugh Jackson twenty twenty five Young Farmer of the Year,
Thanks for your time. Go the Stags
The Farmer Panel with the Iszuzu Dmax, the Kiwi Ute
built Tough with Truck DNA. Today's Farmer panel is the
Young Farmer Panel and we've gone straight to the top drawer. Yes,
the twenty twenty four Young Farmer of the Year FMG
Young Farmer of the Year George Dodson twenty twenty five.
This year's Young Farmer of the Year Hugh Jackson.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Here.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I want to start with you in tr Cow. Congratulations
for wearing your Southland Stags jersey along to a Wykado
Shield challenge. Even though you're living in that province. You're
a true Southlander, even if only by adoption.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Thaggy Jami. Yeah, it was a cool game on Sunday,
that's so sure. I headed along with a lot of
the Tiaki locals and we went in supported the Stags,
even though I'm definitely a wake at a man my
time in south and I really enjoyed supporting the Stags
when I was down there and was fortunate enought to
get a south And shirt given to me when I left.
(01:00):
So great thrill to see the Stags get up and
get the shield, even though it's against my home team.
And also We're really cool to see a good family
friend and local George Reeves get on for the Stags
in the last twenty minutes of the game, so hopefully
they can do it again this weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
George Dodson, you're in Canterbury. That's enemy territory for us
Stags fan But to your credit you were born and
bred in Southland, and like you too because you two
were mates at the Thornbury Young Farmers Club down on
Southland just outside of him for Cargo, you're a Stags
fan as well.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, Jamie, yep, that's absolutely right, one hundred percent support
on the Stags. I suppose south and Canterbury will both
fancy the chances of Stags at the homeground of Rugby
Park and then Canterbury top of the off the top
of the table. Sorry, and you know it'll be certainly
an interesting clash tribalism.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It brings out the best NPC rugby. Let's talk about farming.
I'll stick with you, George, your dairy farming and I
was going to say dun Sandal, but you're in Darfield,
aren't you.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, sort about Dartfield Ways, Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Out Darfield Way. How's the carving going. Are you getting
near the end, getting near the finish line?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, we'll be about three quarters done now, so we
started quite late, but we just finished up our first
three weeks and we're absolutely cranking through them there for
a while, but starting to settle down now, forming a
good routine and really starting to get some stuff done,
which is awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Were you a wee bit concerned about that reasonable drop
in the GDT auction midweek or is that just sort
of what happens at this time a year. Don't panic.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, I suppose it's just pretty standard, isn't it. You know,
we were just hope that it will continue to go
up and it's still looking pretty good, So no complaints
from me.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Hugh Jackson and c R cow congratulations. By the way,
Hugh fronting up on behalf of New Zealand Farmers on
Q and A with Jack Tame. He did a really
I thought, a really telling interview with you, and it's
about the dangers and the perils of carbon farming. I'm
pretty hot on this one and I was reading online
this morning another four farms have gone in central Hawks Bay.
(03:07):
You're no fan at all.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
No, it's not a not a good thing. For our country,
in our industry going forward, having these pine trees planted
on land it should be crazing livestock. We've seen it
just across the fence from us at home and in
tak firsteen hundred hectares of a neighboring property went into
pine trees over the last two years and it's a
(03:31):
real shame to see good productive land going into it.
We need to these these rules are not going far enough,
I don't think, and we really need to push them,
push them harder to make sure that we as young
farmers are not faced with really adverse advers consequences going forward.
And how the government thinks they're going to double exports
(03:53):
whilst at the same time planting thousands of hecteas into
farms of farming and to pine trees for carbon farming
is beyond me. So it just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Hugh Jackson out of trw surrounded or certainly some carbon
farming happening in your neck of the woods. It's not
only the loss of productive land, it's also the effect
on pastoral farming neighbors such as yourself. And I'm thinking
of the feral pests.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, one hundred per pigs and their huge issue in
the areas of the community already, and the pine trees
are going to make them even worse. Also, the community
toll that has as well, less people around, less jobs.
I was talking to a young girl this week and
she said she's finding it really hard to find a
(04:43):
job full stuff, and the change of land use and
less livestock around us is definitely not helping that. In
addition to that, you know the neighboring property they're went
in beside us, that's for jobs and families that have
left the district. So really needs to needs to be.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
George Dodson, you're farming on the Canterbury planes. There are
much carbon farming happening around you. Dr Mike Joy would
be a proponent of carbon farming anything to get rid
of the nitrates in the waterways that you dirty dairy
farmers are putting in there.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, well, weren't those comments pretty disappointing, But I don't
think we really need to give him much more airtime, Jammy,
And no, there doesn't seem to be a heck of
a lot of carbon planting going on in my area. Obviously,
the planes are irrigated really high quality land what we
are seeing down sort of require ways as some apple
orchards going in, which is interesting. Land news changed there,
(05:37):
but it's just a lot of dairy conversions. I suppose
it's probably cropping farms going into dairy as opposed to
trees or anything else.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Just to finish on you both, young farmers, what do
you say about the Paris agreement? Do we stay or
do we go? Or start with you, Hugh Jackson.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's an interesting one, Jamie, and I'm probably not fully
qualified to come on it properly, having not a huge
experience in the trade, you know, in the trade space.
But yeah, obviously we want to don't want to shut
too many doors. But at the same time, we don't
(06:14):
want to have to reduce emissions at the peril of
our industry and put undue stress and pressure on everyone.
I think the crazy thing about us reducing our emissions
in the agriculture space, being really efficient producers already means
that other people and if we have to reduce or
(06:37):
produce less because of it means that other people around
the world will produce more. In a national or global
emissions has increased, So it doesn't seem seem to make
sense really does it now, that's.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Called carbon leacage. George, what do you say.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, I'd probably say just about quite similar to what
Hughes said. Really, I'm not super qualified to speak on it,
but I will say it's slightly concerning to see that,
you know, the likes of the coal and power generation,
that we will import products from Indonesia rather than using
our own better quality coal for the sake of so,
you know, exporting our footprint, which is quite concerning. And
(07:12):
like Hugh says, if we're stopping production here and as
one of the cleanest, greenest food producers in the world,
then it's just going to go to another country that's
going to do it at the lowest cost possible with
no regard to the environment. So that would be my
take on that, And I think there's a place for
the agreement, but we probably just said find out how
we can make it work better for us.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
George Dodson twenty twenty four Young Farmer of the Year,
Hugh Jackson twenty twenty five Young Farmer of the Year,
Thanks for your time. Go the Stags
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