September 4, 2025 • 6 mins
We ask the sire of 20% of the starting All Blacks XV how calving's going on his Coastal Taranaki dairy farm.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Songs from ninety ninety four when we last lost the
All Blacks. I'm talking about at Eden Park nineteen ninety four.
Our next guest was probably playing for the Taranaki rugby team.
How did I go with that one, Smiley? That's your generation?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, sure it was, Jamie. Yeah, did you say nineteen
eighty five?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
No? No, no, nineteen ninety four, because I know that you
were in the Taranaki team that won the Ranfilly Shield
off Auckland and ninety six, won't you correct? Yes, what
a great what a great day that was, even though
it cost me the South in times picking competition, Smiley,
But that was my problem and not yours back then. Okay,
you couldn't take a call earlier you were debudding calves.
(00:40):
That sounds painful.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
No, it's not, because we use a low playing there locally,
and I said on them. Yeah, so give administer that first, Jamie,
just lot a term. It's such a teen minutes, twenty minutes,
and then then you're into it. Yeah, yeah, with pain
and it's very specially for the cars.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Well, I'm pleased to hear that we've come a lot.
Like I remember as a kid my father lopping off
horns off cattle with pincers basically. I mean it was
pretty brutal back in the day. So the animal health
standards have certainly gone a lot better. How's the how's
the carbon going? Are you getting near the end? Can you?
It allows you a day off the farm at this
time of the year to go to Auckland.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yes, certain, he does, Jamie. Probably twenty six hours actually
off the farm here exactly. But no, yeah, that's good.
We're winding down now. That is forty to fifty to go,
and the weather has been pretty good actually, but what
it's been cold and dry. You know, I was talking
to there was it three weeks ago. We've had a
lot of a lot of frost and Taranaki and you know,
(01:41):
growth was I think in August only about twelve, you
know where it's up. The sort of forty is now,
which is which is good. We've had warm rain, so yeah,
a lot of farmers are short, but it's dry. Utilization
has been good. But yep, it'll come Jamie.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Just looking for a bit of big yellow on a
bit of warms.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yep, yeap, certainly absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Taranaki did the decent thing and lost the shield to Waikato,
who then lost it to us. When I say us,
i'm claiming vicariously the Stags there. Good to see it
go to the small places though, smiling. I know it was.
I know it was valued in a new Plumouth. I'm
not so sure about the five main rugby centers. I
like to see it in the little places.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I'm a pretty kind hearted up be Jeremy. We like
to share it around, you know, so it's made to
go around. So yeah, who knows, we may get a
crack at it, as long as you got to do
the The boys are pretty passionate down there, so you've
got a big job this weekend of getting getting out
of Kennery. But yeah, it'll be it'd be great for
the locals down there. And I'm sure they've been getting
around the province down there, so I think it was there.
(02:43):
I was fortunate enough to be at that game down
there when Tarnick you took it off your back and
what was that twenty When was that twenty eleven? I
think it was eleven. Yeah, yeah, that was a great game.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
But anyway, not really not if you're a Stags fan,
it wasn't a great game.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Smiling, it was great. No, I mean we think you
would tell. We hired a chart of the plane next
you to fly down. It was great. We flew right
down the west coast and into and for kag where
he was a great day.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
He Bowden just about what had been playing as a
youngster then, was.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
He he was yet? Yes? He was yet? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Because I always remember what sticks in my mind about
Bowden Barrett. I said to Sir Brian Lahore in twenty ten,
the year before the Rugby World Cup in New Zealand,
I said, throw me an absolute bolter for the Rugby
World Cup squad next year. And do you know what
he said? There's a young kid in Taranaki. He must
have only been about eighteen at the time. Bowden Barrett
(03:38):
mark my words, he'll be a good one. And Sir
Brian got that right, he did, didn't he? Here?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Now he were faid, Yeah, a lot of pleasure watching boat.
He had some time flies exactly, you know, two thirteen
so he first played. So yeah, that's thirteen years there.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
All right. Just to finish on because I know you've
got a heap on the farm and you're taking time
out to chat to me, you know, like in some
ways the spring Box almost start as favorites for this game,
but the All Blacks have a wonderful history of coming
off losses, especially bad losses like the like it wasn't
bon Aziri as bon as aisn't going well? Is this
(04:17):
is this a flipper coin game?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's yeah, it's going to be very tight. There's small margins,
as you know, Jamie, and test matches, and yeah, we
we just we've just got to take it to them.
We just can't sit back. We just can't give them
an inch, you know. And that's you know, we found
out last week against two weeks ago against the Argentine Argentines,
and sat found out excuse me, against Dottie, you know.
(04:44):
So you've just got to take your chances and you
just can't give the opposition a chance. That's something as that,
because you only get you get a few chances in
the game. If you don't nail them, you know, you're gone.
You come come second. So yeah, it's it's going to
be a great game, great contest. And like you say, Jamie, yeah,
we the boys are definitely hurting coming off that loss.
And it's a hundredth game, you know, I know it
(05:09):
was Cody's hundredth last week, you know, but does a
point for the boys they couldn't get up from. But yeah,
it's going to be it's going to be a cracker
for real.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Okay, I've got I've got one more for you. You've
just finished in carving. Next job on the on the
calendar for the dairy farmers has a bit of silence
to be made and then it's mating. Now. I'm sure
that you use AI artificial insemination.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Right we do, Jamie?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, Now have you ever thought of volunteering yourself? Because
I've done the maths on the Smiley, you have signed
twenty percent of the starting fifteen. Do you think you
should sacrifice yourself for your country? And maybe you know,
I don't know, volunteer to a sperm bank? Serious for
the good of the country.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Smiley, you're not the first on let's see that one.
Now I'm the ab tickets on the farming too, so
I'll get the other girls in calf you so.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Ye, okay, I'll leave it at that. I could make
an awkward comment, but I won't listen. And you and
Robin enjoy your trip up to Auckland. I know it's
a bit of a whistle stop tour when you're flat
out farming. Appreciate your time and we are so looking
forward to the All Blacks keeping that winning streak alive
at Eden Park. Thanks for your.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Time, yep, as been the Prince has always saying we
have a good day.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, there we go. What a great man he is.
Smiley Barrett
Songs from ninety ninety four when we last lost the
All Blacks. I'm talking about at Eden Park nineteen ninety four.
Our next guest was probably playing for the Taranaki rugby team.
How did I go with that one, Smiley? That's your generation?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, sure it was, Jamie. Yeah, did you say nineteen
eighty five?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
No? No, no, nineteen ninety four, because I know that you
were in the Taranaki team that won the Ranfilly Shield
off Auckland and ninety six, won't you correct? Yes, what
a great what a great day that was, even though
it cost me the South in times picking competition, Smiley,
But that was my problem and not yours back then. Okay,
you couldn't take a call earlier you were debudding calves.
(00:40):
That sounds painful.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
No, it's not, because we use a low playing there locally,
and I said on them. Yeah, so give administer that first, Jamie,
just lot a term. It's such a teen minutes, twenty minutes,
and then then you're into it. Yeah, yeah, with pain
and it's very specially for the cars.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Well, I'm pleased to hear that we've come a lot.
Like I remember as a kid my father lopping off
horns off cattle with pincers basically. I mean it was
pretty brutal back in the day. So the animal health
standards have certainly gone a lot better. How's the how's
the carbon going? Are you getting near the end? Can you?
It allows you a day off the farm at this
time of the year to go to Auckland.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yes, certain, he does, Jamie. Probably twenty six hours actually
off the farm here exactly. But no, yeah, that's good.
We're winding down now. That is forty to fifty to go,
and the weather has been pretty good actually, but what
it's been cold and dry. You know, I was talking
to there was it three weeks ago. We've had a
lot of a lot of frost and Taranaki and you know,
(01:41):
growth was I think in August only about twelve, you
know where it's up. The sort of forty is now,
which is which is good. We've had warm rain, so yeah,
a lot of farmers are short, but it's dry. Utilization
has been good. But yep, it'll come Jamie.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Just looking for a bit of big yellow on a
bit of warms.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yep, yeap, certainly absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Taranaki did the decent thing and lost the shield to Waikato,
who then lost it to us. When I say us,
i'm claiming vicariously the Stags there. Good to see it
go to the small places though, smiling. I know it was.
I know it was valued in a new Plumouth. I'm
not so sure about the five main rugby centers. I
like to see it in the little places.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I'm a pretty kind hearted up be Jeremy. We like
to share it around, you know, so it's made to
go around. So yeah, who knows, we may get a
crack at it, as long as you got to do
the The boys are pretty passionate down there, so you've
got a big job this weekend of getting getting out
of Kennery. But yeah, it'll be it'd be great for
the locals down there. And I'm sure they've been getting
around the province down there, so I think it was there.
(02:43):
I was fortunate enough to be at that game down
there when Tarnick you took it off your back and
what was that twenty When was that twenty eleven? I
think it was eleven. Yeah, yeah, that was a great game.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
But anyway, not really not if you're a Stags fan,
it wasn't a great game.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Smiling, it was great. No, I mean we think you
would tell. We hired a chart of the plane next
you to fly down. It was great. We flew right
down the west coast and into and for kag where
he was a great day.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
He Bowden just about what had been playing as a
youngster then, was.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
He he was yet? Yes? He was yet? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Because I always remember what sticks in my mind about
Bowden Barrett. I said to Sir Brian Lahore in twenty ten,
the year before the Rugby World Cup in New Zealand,
I said, throw me an absolute bolter for the Rugby
World Cup squad next year. And do you know what
he said? There's a young kid in Taranaki. He must
have only been about eighteen at the time. Bowden Barrett
(03:38):
mark my words, he'll be a good one. And Sir
Brian got that right, he did, didn't he? Here?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Now he were faid, Yeah, a lot of pleasure watching boat.
He had some time flies exactly, you know, two thirteen
so he first played. So yeah, that's thirteen years there.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
All right. Just to finish on because I know you've
got a heap on the farm and you're taking time
out to chat to me, you know, like in some
ways the spring Box almost start as favorites for this game,
but the All Blacks have a wonderful history of coming
off losses, especially bad losses like the like it wasn't
bon Aziri as bon as aisn't going well? Is this
(04:17):
is this a flipper coin game?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's yeah, it's going to be very tight. There's small margins,
as you know, Jamie, and test matches, and yeah, we
we just we've just got to take it to them.
We just can't sit back. We just can't give them
an inch, you know. And that's you know, we found
out last week against two weeks ago against the Argentine Argentines,
and sat found out excuse me, against Dottie, you know.
(04:44):
So you've just got to take your chances and you
just can't give the opposition a chance. That's something as that,
because you only get you get a few chances in
the game. If you don't nail them, you know, you're gone.
You come come second. So yeah, it's it's going to
be a great game, great contest. And like you say, Jamie, yeah,
we the boys are definitely hurting coming off that loss.
And it's a hundredth game, you know, I know it
(05:09):
was Cody's hundredth last week, you know, but does a
point for the boys they couldn't get up from. But yeah,
it's going to be it's going to be a cracker
for real.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Okay, I've got I've got one more for you. You've
just finished in carving. Next job on the on the
calendar for the dairy farmers has a bit of silence
to be made and then it's mating. Now. I'm sure
that you use AI artificial insemination.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Right we do, Jamie?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, Now have you ever thought of volunteering yourself? Because
I've done the maths on the Smiley, you have signed
twenty percent of the starting fifteen. Do you think you
should sacrifice yourself for your country? And maybe you know,
I don't know, volunteer to a sperm bank? Serious for
the good of the country.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Smiley, you're not the first on let's see that one.
Now I'm the ab tickets on the farming too, so
I'll get the other girls in calf you so.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Ye, okay, I'll leave it at that. I could make
an awkward comment, but I won't listen. And you and
Robin enjoy your trip up to Auckland. I know it's
a bit of a whistle stop tour when you're flat
out farming. Appreciate your time and we are so looking
forward to the All Blacks keeping that winning streak alive
at Eden Park. Thanks for your.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Time, yep, as been the Prince has always saying we
have a good day.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, there we go. What a great man he is.
Smiley Barrett
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