November 5, 2024 • 7 mins
It’s Election Day in the US, so we talk to a high-profile Fox TV correspondent, and New York Post columnist (with 675,000 followers on X) about Donald Trump. Unsurprisingly, she’s an unabashed supporter and cheerleader for the man who could be the 47th President.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, as promised, I've managed to track her down. Her
name is Miranda Devine, star of Fox TV, columnist, leading
political columnist for the New York Post, six hundred and
seventy five thousand followers on Twitter, and married to a
boy from Whyahna in South Otago who I went to
boarding school with. And Miranda, by the way, he was
(00:23):
the only boy in the third form who read the
Mercantile Gazette, So you must have known you were marrying
a money man.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, I don't even know what the mercantile because that
sounds like that, it sounds quite impressive.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well put it this way. Normally thirteen year old boys
wouldn't read it, but Ronnie did. Look, you're very close
with Donald Trump. You work for the New York Post,
that is a Rupert Murdoch paper. What's he really like?
What's he like?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
He's very warm and generous and personable and nothing like
the sort of caricature that's created for him. You know,
I've seen him over the years and look, obviously he's
always going to be at his charming best when he's
talking to the Fourth Estate. But you know, he's always
(01:15):
the same way when we meet him, and He is
humorous and always is good with a long yarn and
stays late.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
You know that these dinners always go till midnight or thereabout.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Why does he get tagged as being a racist and
a misogynist.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Look, part of it is just his affect. You know,
he's a New york like a classic New Yorker. He's brash,
he's outspoken. He also just doesn't have a filter. He
really just speaks his mind. He says whatever comes into it,
and that I guess some people find obnoxious. I find
(01:56):
it quite refreshing, particularly in a politician, because normally they're
sort of very measured about their words and sort of
talk like robots, especially the modern era ones. So he's
more a throwback to the politicians of the past. But
I think the main reason is because he came out
(02:18):
of nowhere. You know, he hasn't paid his dues to Washington,
and he's a maverick. He does not really fit the
template of a Republican politician, and he's really shaken up
the Republican Party and he's taken from the Democrats a
lot of their traditional voters. And I think probably the
(02:41):
main reason that he gets demonized so much is because
he does not follow the foreign policy agenda of the blob,
which is the CIA, the FBI, the State Department, you know,
the intelligence services, and they they they have a malign
agenda that includes a lot of war and a lot
(03:03):
of regime change. And we saw that during Don Trump's
reign that he didn't start any new wars, that he
just approached foreign policy like he did everything else, like
a property developer from New York. Just don first principles,
using logic and common sense. And Vladimir Putin was in
(03:25):
his box. When Donald Trump was president. Putin did not
invade any of his neighbors like he did when Barack
Obama was president and when Joe Biden was president.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
That in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
We saw the glimmerings of peace there with the Abraham Accords.
Isis was vanquished. People forget now how brutal and awful
that DISTLENUS terror threat was. So all in all, it
was a big success. But he did it not following
the agenda of the CIA.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And the rest of the blob. And they don't like that.
They see him as an existential threat. They keep telling
everybody that's what he is, or they.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Tell their media toadies to tell everybody that Donald Trump's
an existential threat to America and to democracy into the world.
He's only an existential threat to this unaccountable cabal that
expect always that they're going to control the presidency and
they weren't able to control Donald Trump because he's basically
(04:31):
uncontrollable and maybe that's you know, people don't like that,
they think that he's undisciplined, but actually it's a big
asset when you're finding the deep state.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Miranda Devine with a columnist for The New York Post,
star of Fox TV, huge following on social media. Do
you have any impartial or neutral media and US television?
I watch Fox News, I see you, Miranda regularly. I
watch CNN. They're batting for the other team.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah. Look, I think that's just the nature of modern
media is that you're not really I don't think anywhere
in the world. I mean, I don't think in Australia
or New Zealand, or the UK or America we have
any such thing as an impartial media. I mean, the
BBC might pretend to be.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
But it isn't. It's very left leaning, and so I
just think, you know, people go into their corners.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It's a bit of a pity because everyone siloed and
they just listen to like minded people and get very
upset if there's a contrary view. Obviously, I'm on Fox
and I'm right leaning, so I'm maybe talking my book here.
But I think that conservative are a bit more open
minded because they're kind of forced to because the dominant narrative,
(05:48):
and there's sort of all the institutions.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Are dominated by.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
The left, or let's say the Democratic Party, if you
can call them the left anymore, they're really the Warnga
Party now they're you know, supported by Dick Cheney and
Louiz Cheney and so on. But I think that you know,
we're forced to listen to their media to understand their
narrative as well as you know, what we want to hear.
(06:16):
I guess from our own point of view. But if
you are an MSNBC view or a New York Times reader,
you don't really get anything outside your bubble. And so
they are always incredibly shocked. In fact, they're shocked and
melting down right now at the realization that half the country,
I mean, the polls and neck and neck, but half
(06:36):
the country wants to vote to the man that they
call Hitler and a fascist. And you know, it's unfortunate
that we had Joe Biden call that half of America garbage.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
The other day, but effectively, that's the.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Kamala Harris campaign that if you are voting for Donald Trump,
then you're a garbage human being who's really a Nazi.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Miranda Devone's so good to catch up with you recently
in New York. Thank you very much for your time.
I know you're very very busy on election day in
New York. It was good to meet you and may
the best man or woman win.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Fantastic, Thanks so much. Jamie, great to talk to you.
Well, as promised, I've managed to track her down. Her
name is Miranda Devine, star of Fox TV, columnist, leading
political columnist for the New York Post, six hundred and
seventy five thousand followers on Twitter, and married to a
boy from Whyahna in South Otago who I went to
boarding school with. And Miranda, by the way, he was
(00:23):
the only boy in the third form who read the
Mercantile Gazette, So you must have known you were marrying
a money man.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, I don't even know what the mercantile because that
sounds like that, it sounds quite impressive.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well put it this way. Normally thirteen year old boys
wouldn't read it, but Ronnie did. Look, you're very close
with Donald Trump. You work for the New York Post,
that is a Rupert Murdoch paper. What's he really like?
What's he like?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
He's very warm and generous and personable and nothing like
the sort of caricature that's created for him. You know,
I've seen him over the years and look, obviously he's
always going to be at his charming best when he's
talking to the Fourth Estate. But you know, he's always
(01:15):
the same way when we meet him, and He is
humorous and always is good with a long yarn and
stays late.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
You know that these dinners always go till midnight or thereabout.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Why does he get tagged as being a racist and
a misogynist.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Look, part of it is just his affect. You know,
he's a New york like a classic New Yorker. He's brash,
he's outspoken. He also just doesn't have a filter. He
really just speaks his mind. He says whatever comes into it,
and that I guess some people find obnoxious. I find
(01:56):
it quite refreshing, particularly in a politician, because normally they're
sort of very measured about their words and sort of
talk like robots, especially the modern era ones. So he's
more a throwback to the politicians of the past. But
I think the main reason is because he came out
(02:18):
of nowhere. You know, he hasn't paid his dues to Washington,
and he's a maverick. He does not really fit the
template of a Republican politician, and he's really shaken up
the Republican Party and he's taken from the Democrats a
lot of their traditional voters. And I think probably the
(02:41):
main reason that he gets demonized so much is because
he does not follow the foreign policy agenda of the blob,
which is the CIA, the FBI, the State Department, you know,
the intelligence services, and they they they have a malign
agenda that includes a lot of war and a lot
(03:03):
of regime change. And we saw that during Don Trump's
reign that he didn't start any new wars, that he
just approached foreign policy like he did everything else, like
a property developer from New York. Just don first principles,
using logic and common sense. And Vladimir Putin was in
(03:25):
his box. When Donald Trump was president. Putin did not
invade any of his neighbors like he did when Barack
Obama was president and when Joe Biden was president.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
That in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
We saw the glimmerings of peace there with the Abraham Accords.
Isis was vanquished. People forget now how brutal and awful
that DISTLENUS terror threat was. So all in all, it
was a big success. But he did it not following
the agenda of the CIA.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And the rest of the blob. And they don't like that.
They see him as an existential threat. They keep telling
everybody that's what he is, or they.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Tell their media toadies to tell everybody that Donald Trump's
an existential threat to America and to democracy into the world.
He's only an existential threat to this unaccountable cabal that
expect always that they're going to control the presidency and
they weren't able to control Donald Trump because he's basically
(04:31):
uncontrollable and maybe that's you know, people don't like that,
they think that he's undisciplined, but actually it's a big
asset when you're finding the deep state.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Miranda Devine with a columnist for The New York Post,
star of Fox TV, huge following on social media. Do
you have any impartial or neutral media and US television?
I watch Fox News, I see you, Miranda regularly. I
watch CNN. They're batting for the other team.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah. Look, I think that's just the nature of modern
media is that you're not really I don't think anywhere
in the world. I mean, I don't think in Australia
or New Zealand, or the UK or America we have
any such thing as an impartial media. I mean, the
BBC might pretend to be.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
But it isn't. It's very left leaning, and so I
just think, you know, people go into their corners.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It's a bit of a pity because everyone siloed and
they just listen to like minded people and get very
upset if there's a contrary view. Obviously, I'm on Fox
and I'm right leaning, so I'm maybe talking my book here.
But I think that conservative are a bit more open
minded because they're kind of forced to because the dominant narrative,
(05:48):
and there's sort of all the institutions.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Are dominated by.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
The left, or let's say the Democratic Party, if you
can call them the left anymore, they're really the Warnga
Party now they're you know, supported by Dick Cheney and
Louiz Cheney and so on. But I think that you know,
we're forced to listen to their media to understand their
narrative as well as you know, what we want to hear.
(06:16):
I guess from our own point of view. But if
you are an MSNBC view or a New York Times reader,
you don't really get anything outside your bubble. And so
they are always incredibly shocked. In fact, they're shocked and
melting down right now at the realization that half the country,
I mean, the polls and neck and neck, but half
(06:36):
the country wants to vote to the man that they
call Hitler and a fascist. And you know, it's unfortunate
that we had Joe Biden call that half of America garbage.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
The other day, but effectively, that's the.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Kamala Harris campaign that if you are voting for Donald Trump,
then you're a garbage human being who's really a Nazi.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Miranda Devone's so good to catch up with you recently
in New York. Thank you very much for your time.
I know you're very very busy on election day in
New York. It was good to meet you and may
the best man or woman win.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Fantastic, Thanks so much. Jamie, great to talk to you.
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