July 7, 2025 • 5 mins
Labour's agriculture spokeswoman offers some informed commentary on funding early childhood education, but will she ever come out with any meaningful agriculture policy?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
She is Labour's agriculture spokesperson. Her name is Joe Luxton.
We're going to talk about ag policy or the lack
of it from Labor and just a tick. But Joe,
you've got an interesting background, a rural background, and part
of your rural background was setting up an early childhood
education center in Hines in mid Canterbury. Tell me this,
(00:20):
why should anyone or any else household get it right
earning two hundred and thirty grand a year get subsidized
early childhood education. If you can't run your house on that,
you can't run a bath, well.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Good a Jamie is well, yeah, I had an early
time center in Hines that I started up as part
of I recognize that lots of people moving into the
area dairy farming that didn't have those family supports nearby
that you sort of tend to look for when you
get busied during carving and you got both them and
dad on the farm and we're in carves, and so
(00:56):
I opened up a center there and I think it
was two thousand and just a small rural center. But
look coming to your point around and come thresholds in
subsidies for that. You know, if you think about the
free EC education for three year olds and over. That
doesn't have a requirement as to how much you earn
or don't earn. So the one you're referring to, our guess,
(01:20):
is the one that the current government has just increased
the threshold four, which is just simply because it's been
a fail policy from the get go and they've just
simping done is to try and encourage more people to
take it up, but it's just an Edmond nightmare and
that is why so many people have not bothered to
take it up.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
What about your AG policy? Have you bothered to take
up that? As I said, am I going to be
an old man before you? I'm getting older by the daja?
Am I going to be an old man retired from
this job by the time you and Hippy come out
with some AGG policy. Come on, the elect's got an
election next year?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, yeah, next year, but I mean it's not for
quite some time. But to answer your question, look, we
are going I'm fat I'm here in Parliament today, head down,
bum up, putting some bits and pieces together for that.
But we also have a much larger process than just
spokespeople involved in it, so you can be rest assured, Jamie.
(02:16):
I am working on it, and I will let you
know as soon as we have something to say, which
I promise you will be before the end of this
year or early next year. We've got a long time
before the election.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Is chippy, in danger of sleep walking to victory or
maybe not victory. I'm not sure you guys can win,
but sleep walking to a close election because you're not
actually doing that much. You're just relying on the opposition
dropping the ball.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
No lot. There's a lot of work going on behind
the scenes, and we said really early on that we're
not just going to bark and every passing to pose
for the sake of opposing, and we've been really taking
time and being considered about what it is that we
do come out and oppose. But on the other hand,
we've alsos also sort of said things along the line, well,
of the current government puts things in place that are
(03:03):
working for the constituency of New Zealand, then we will
support where support is required. So, yes, they are dropping
the ball left, right and center, there's no doubt about that.
But you can be rest assured and your listeners can
actually be rest assured that we are working away on policy.
You don't show your cards too soon, do you, because
the current government, you know, if they think it's a
good idea, they might take it as well. So take
(03:25):
the idea and create it. There's a government policy, so
you know, you just can't show your cards too soon.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I reckon ship. You must wake up on a cold
sweat at night worrying about being in coalition with Chloe
and Debbie and Raweri.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, I don't know about chap sleeping habits, but what
you know, but we are focused on ourselves. We are
the Labor Party. We're not the Green Party, and we're
not Papimi. We are the Labor Party, and we're focused
on ourselves and developing our policies for the upcoming election.
And there's a lot of stuff to happen before next selection.
(04:00):
And also you know, you're assuming that everybody will still
win the same seats or the same amount of seats,
and who knows what the outcome of their election will be.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Now, talking about sleeping, how did the sleep over go
between as I affectionately call it, between Labor and Federated Farmers.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
We had a really, really great couple of days. We
had some different people in the room, with us this time.
We also had representatives from Hawt New Zealand Irrigation New
Zealand during and ZED. It's all part of that building
a relationships that we got down into the weeds a
bit more this time and heard a bit from the feeds,
particularly is to what their thoughts were around current policy
(04:39):
and the direction they wanted to see the current government's
policy going and the stance that they have had on that.
But that was really good and we did some visits
to some different farms and we had the Parliamentary Commissioner
for the Environment, Samon Upston, and we also had EVID
Frame present to us as well. So it was really
good value and I think it will just go strengths
(05:01):
to strengths every year.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
And I know you weren't at the Primary Industry Awards.
Did you see that I made your doppelganger, Kate Middleton?
That was that was good flattery for both of you,
of course, Joe.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Good Yes, yes, a few people because I was done well.
Text me a screenshot of that comparison that you that
you hear going and I understand there were some some
quite interesting comparisons going on, but it sounds like you
did a pretty good job overall.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
From the comments, well, there was less flattering comparisons. Yes,
I haven't heard from Andrew Hoggart since that event. I'm
hoping we can kiss and make up. Hey, Joe Luxton,
thanks very much for your time pleasure, No worry,
She is Labour's agriculture spokesperson. Her name is Joe Luxton.
We're going to talk about ag policy or the lack
of it from Labor and just a tick. But Joe,
you've got an interesting background, a rural background, and part
of your rural background was setting up an early childhood
education center in Hines in mid Canterbury. Tell me this,
(00:20):
why should anyone or any else household get it right
earning two hundred and thirty grand a year get subsidized
early childhood education. If you can't run your house on that,
you can't run a bath, well.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Good a Jamie is well, yeah, I had an early
time center in Hines that I started up as part
of I recognize that lots of people moving into the
area dairy farming that didn't have those family supports nearby
that you sort of tend to look for when you
get busied during carving and you got both them and
dad on the farm and we're in carves, and so
(00:56):
I opened up a center there and I think it
was two thousand and just a small rural center. But
look coming to your point around and come thresholds in
subsidies for that. You know, if you think about the
free EC education for three year olds and over. That
doesn't have a requirement as to how much you earn
or don't earn. So the one you're referring to, our guess,
(01:20):
is the one that the current government has just increased
the threshold four, which is just simply because it's been
a fail policy from the get go and they've just
simping done is to try and encourage more people to
take it up, but it's just an Edmond nightmare and
that is why so many people have not bothered to
take it up.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
What about your AG policy? Have you bothered to take
up that? As I said, am I going to be
an old man before you? I'm getting older by the daja?
Am I going to be an old man retired from
this job by the time you and Hippy come out
with some AGG policy. Come on, the elect's got an
election next year?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, yeah, next year, but I mean it's not for
quite some time. But to answer your question, look, we
are going I'm fat I'm here in Parliament today, head down,
bum up, putting some bits and pieces together for that.
But we also have a much larger process than just
spokespeople involved in it, so you can be rest assured, Jamie.
(02:16):
I am working on it, and I will let you
know as soon as we have something to say, which
I promise you will be before the end of this
year or early next year. We've got a long time
before the election.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Is chippy, in danger of sleep walking to victory or
maybe not victory. I'm not sure you guys can win,
but sleep walking to a close election because you're not
actually doing that much. You're just relying on the opposition
dropping the ball.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
No lot. There's a lot of work going on behind
the scenes, and we said really early on that we're
not just going to bark and every passing to pose
for the sake of opposing, and we've been really taking
time and being considered about what it is that we
do come out and oppose. But on the other hand,
we've alsos also sort of said things along the line, well,
of the current government puts things in place that are
(03:03):
working for the constituency of New Zealand, then we will
support where support is required. So, yes, they are dropping
the ball left, right and center, there's no doubt about that.
But you can be rest assured and your listeners can
actually be rest assured that we are working away on policy.
You don't show your cards too soon, do you, because
the current government, you know, if they think it's a
good idea, they might take it as well. So take
(03:25):
the idea and create it. There's a government policy, so
you know, you just can't show your cards too soon.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I reckon ship. You must wake up on a cold
sweat at night worrying about being in coalition with Chloe
and Debbie and Raweri.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, I don't know about chap sleeping habits, but what
you know, but we are focused on ourselves. We are
the Labor Party. We're not the Green Party, and we're
not Papimi. We are the Labor Party, and we're focused
on ourselves and developing our policies for the upcoming election.
And there's a lot of stuff to happen before next selection.
(04:00):
And also you know, you're assuming that everybody will still
win the same seats or the same amount of seats,
and who knows what the outcome of their election will be.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Now, talking about sleeping, how did the sleep over go
between as I affectionately call it, between Labor and Federated Farmers.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
We had a really, really great couple of days. We
had some different people in the room, with us this time.
We also had representatives from Hawt New Zealand Irrigation New
Zealand during and ZED. It's all part of that building
a relationships that we got down into the weeds a
bit more this time and heard a bit from the feeds,
particularly is to what their thoughts were around current policy
(04:39):
and the direction they wanted to see the current government's
policy going and the stance that they have had on that.
But that was really good and we did some visits
to some different farms and we had the Parliamentary Commissioner
for the Environment, Samon Upston, and we also had EVID
Frame present to us as well. So it was really
good value and I think it will just go strengths
(05:01):
to strengths every year.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
And I know you weren't at the Primary Industry Awards.
Did you see that I made your doppelganger, Kate Middleton?
That was that was good flattery for both of you,
of course, Joe.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Good Yes, yes, a few people because I was done well.
Text me a screenshot of that comparison that you that
you hear going and I understand there were some some
quite interesting comparisons going on, but it sounds like you
did a pretty good job overall.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
From the comments, well, there was less flattering comparisons. Yes,
I haven't heard from Andrew Hoggart since that event. I'm
hoping we can kiss and make up. Hey, Joe Luxton,
thanks very much for your time pleasure, No worry,
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