March 9, 2025 • 7 mins
Today's farmer/politician panel ponders the big dry, field days season, biosecurity and the job security of their respective leaders.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today's panel is a farmer panel and a political panel
because they're both dairy farming MPs. Grant McCullum, National MP
for Northland, Andrew Hoggard, of course, former President of Federated
Farmers these days the Minister of Biosecurity and Associate Agriculture.
He's got a much better CV, Grant McCullum, than you have.
(00:20):
When are you going to get a minister's name behind
your handle?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Come on this show, have a nice really chat.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
This minute, he's firing up at me about well, you're
not doing your job well enough. All I can do
is do my job is best I can and the
boss promotes ends up to him the moment.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm enjoying being the MP for Northland, and.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Good on you, Grant.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And you did an excellent job on the power pylons
getting the money out of the electricity company.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Thank you, Jamie. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, well, I think I think it could be your
crown and glory and politics. And I'm going to come
back to the dry in Northland, Andrew. I might start
Andrew Hoggard, I might start with you in the manor
or two when you're not in Wellington.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
How dry are you on the dairy farm.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Yeah, it's pretty dry so grass grass been pretty light
last week while and still green. We got a little
bit of rain the other day the other night, and
but that's sort of enough to keep it green. Probably
need a lot more to really get that autumn growth
going though.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
So no thoughts of an early dryoff.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
No, I went to milk as well, so okay, yeah, yeah,
but I will be drawing some of the springtails off
pretty shortly.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Actually, good news coming out of Fontira. More good news
should I say, coming out of Fontira today. Grant McCallum,
your dividend's going to be good.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, it's great news, really good news on the dairy farmers,
the hard working dairy farmers is canta, but also for
the economy as a whole, because I'm sure Nichola Willis
will be delighted to see that announcement. And it's at
tax is going to get so you can help pay
for some of those health services and so forth that
we're doing.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
But in terms of the dry up north Jamie, Yeah,
it's to be fair to say that the area around
Real Wide Dargable through the WI power class is particularly
dry at the moment, but the rest of us are
starting to dry out a reasonable amount. Hence why they
see that we were the clearest part of We were
a drought, medium event event drought. And so people have
(02:22):
any issues, get hold of the Real Sport Trust and
I'm sure they'll they'll have their would help out. But yeah,
but you know, the payout certainly helps pay for a
bit of feed, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
You had a great Field Days I hear at Dargaville.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, that went really well and she's a really good turnout.
They got just over twenty thousand people there apparently over
the three days a year and really good mood. They'd
sold out all the exhibits, everything was and over subscribed.
Actually they sold a few more sites, so really good news.
So things definitely turning for the better, and it was
just good to hear. And the current regress is particularly
(02:56):
the good season and they're shaving.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Up for a good one.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Well good on them. They deserve it.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
They've been through a bit of a battle, haven't they.
Andrew Hoggard at Central District's Field Days this week, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Looking forward to it.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
We just said the Rural Games down here this weekend,
so yeah, big a couple of weeks from the men
or two and it was really great to see that
turn out at the Rural Games. Lots of people with
their kids coming along to look at sharing sports and
all the other things that are quintessentially rural in New Zealand.
It's brilliant weekend.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Did you get on the end of the handpiece or
a coal shovel while you were there?
Speaker 5 (03:27):
The coal shoveling myself, Mark Patterson and Todd McClay. We
became the Coalalition.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
To use it.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
That's not bad.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
The provinces have be delighted with that. Say yeah, yeah, yeah,
so you know, I no, that was good fun.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Actually yeah, got the action game quite nicely. Yeah, I'd
start as the Minister in charge of animal welfare. It's
a pretty bad idea for me getting anywhere in their
hand piece.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
So yeah, you cowcockies can be a bit dangerous on
a hand piece. I agree with that. Grant.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
When are we expecting the announcement of the new national leader?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You told me you were going to talk about this, Jamie. Sorry,
there will be known out through your UNI.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Our leaders do a great job, Thank you very much,
and to all those journalists out there or so called
journalists interviewing their keyboards. They need to go and think
about another job themselves. Because we've got a prime minis
is doing a really good job. Have we tuned the
economy around where as you can see with a plation
coming down and interest rates from that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Honestly, what a whole lot of rubbish.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Okay, Well, Andrew Hogan, I won't ask you about the
leadership of the Act Party because it's a bit like
New Zealand First. It's a dictatorship. It's never going to change.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Oh no, no, no, David's his goal is to make
sure the party out last time. And no he's you know,
we've got a good party with lot of good people
in there. So no, it's a very congenial work environment.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Do you think the New Zealand First Party Grant McCallum
or will outlast Winston?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Possibly? Although I do know.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Winston remarks me one day he said, did you know
Greg that there was a senator in America that lived
to one hundred? So these newsflast people is.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Ever a while yet? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Okay, And the question is, well, all the rest of
us out last Winston?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Probably not, Andrew. We're putting on your Minister for Biosecurity hat.
It looks like a junket for you. Down to scott
based in Antarctica. You're doing new field tests down there
to speed up avian influenza monitoring, and I say good
on you. MPI has done a really good job or
we've done a good job with avian flu and obviously
(05:38):
with both us.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Yeah. Look, and I think it's really key, you know,
to get prepared for avian flu. It's it's not something
we can keep out. It's going to be a case
of when, not if. But the most important thing is
that monitoring that's occurring so people know when they can
get prepared. You can't spend all your time at CON
five one or whichever the heighest one is. We need
(06:03):
to be knowing how it's progressing around Antarctica, when it
might move up into the subek pactics, so people can
start taking appropriate steps and make sure that they heighten
their level of biosecurity on their farms. You know, it's
effected the rest of the world, farmers over there learning
how they live with it. We've had study tours over
(06:25):
to the UK and Australia to help our property producers
get better understanding there. So it's just part of the
program of making sure we're as prepared as we possibly
can be.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, and granted it's all a practice session really for
the biggie should it come here. And I see this
foot and mouth not only in Germany now but in
Hungary as well. It just reinforces the idea we've just
got to keep a strong guard on our borders.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
We absolutely doing icommend the work that Andrew's team are doing.
We just can't take our eye off the board here
at all ever, and people at the border a plain
about procedures around at the borders covering things into New
Zealand with both on the plane or stuff coming through
and containers. Sorry, we we just we cannot take those risks.
(07:11):
We'll destroy our economy.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Okay, I know you two have got to go to
a really interesting Select Committee meeting. Thank you very much
for your time, Andrew Hoggard, Grant McCullum Today's Farmer Politician Panel.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Thanks calculat
Today's panel is a farmer panel and a political panel
because they're both dairy farming MPs. Grant McCullum, National MP
for Northland, Andrew Hoggard, of course, former President of Federated
Farmers these days the Minister of Biosecurity and Associate Agriculture.
He's got a much better CV, Grant McCullum, than you have.
(00:20):
When are you going to get a minister's name behind
your handle?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Come on this show, have a nice really chat.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
This minute, he's firing up at me about well, you're
not doing your job well enough. All I can do
is do my job is best I can and the
boss promotes ends up to him the moment.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm enjoying being the MP for Northland, and.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Good on you, Grant.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And you did an excellent job on the power pylons
getting the money out of the electricity company.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Thank you, Jamie. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, well, I think I think it could be your
crown and glory and politics. And I'm going to come
back to the dry in Northland, Andrew. I might start
Andrew Hoggard, I might start with you in the manor
or two when you're not in Wellington.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
How dry are you on the dairy farm.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Yeah, it's pretty dry so grass grass been pretty light
last week while and still green. We got a little
bit of rain the other day the other night, and
but that's sort of enough to keep it green. Probably
need a lot more to really get that autumn growth
going though.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
So no thoughts of an early dryoff.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
No, I went to milk as well, so okay, yeah, yeah,
but I will be drawing some of the springtails off
pretty shortly.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Actually, good news coming out of Fontira. More good news
should I say, coming out of Fontira today. Grant McCallum,
your dividend's going to be good.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, it's great news, really good news on the dairy farmers,
the hard working dairy farmers is canta, but also for
the economy as a whole, because I'm sure Nichola Willis
will be delighted to see that announcement. And it's at
tax is going to get so you can help pay
for some of those health services and so forth that
we're doing.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
But in terms of the dry up north Jamie, Yeah,
it's to be fair to say that the area around
Real Wide Dargable through the WI power class is particularly
dry at the moment, but the rest of us are
starting to dry out a reasonable amount. Hence why they
see that we were the clearest part of We were
a drought, medium event event drought. And so people have
(02:22):
any issues, get hold of the Real Sport Trust and
I'm sure they'll they'll have their would help out. But yeah,
but you know, the payout certainly helps pay for a
bit of feed, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
You had a great Field Days I hear at Dargaville.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, that went really well and she's a really good turnout.
They got just over twenty thousand people there apparently over
the three days a year and really good mood. They'd
sold out all the exhibits, everything was and over subscribed.
Actually they sold a few more sites, so really good news.
So things definitely turning for the better, and it was
just good to hear. And the current regress is particularly
(02:56):
the good season and they're shaving.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Up for a good one.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Well good on them. They deserve it.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
They've been through a bit of a battle, haven't they.
Andrew Hoggard at Central District's Field Days this week, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Looking forward to it.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
We just said the Rural Games down here this weekend,
so yeah, big a couple of weeks from the men
or two and it was really great to see that
turn out at the Rural Games. Lots of people with
their kids coming along to look at sharing sports and
all the other things that are quintessentially rural in New Zealand.
It's brilliant weekend.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Did you get on the end of the handpiece or
a coal shovel while you were there?
Speaker 5 (03:27):
The coal shoveling myself, Mark Patterson and Todd McClay. We
became the Coalalition.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
To use it.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
That's not bad.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
The provinces have be delighted with that. Say yeah, yeah, yeah,
so you know, I no, that was good fun.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Actually yeah, got the action game quite nicely. Yeah, I'd
start as the Minister in charge of animal welfare. It's
a pretty bad idea for me getting anywhere in their
hand piece.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
So yeah, you cowcockies can be a bit dangerous on
a hand piece. I agree with that. Grant.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
When are we expecting the announcement of the new national leader?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You told me you were going to talk about this, Jamie. Sorry,
there will be known out through your UNI.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Our leaders do a great job, Thank you very much,
and to all those journalists out there or so called
journalists interviewing their keyboards. They need to go and think
about another job themselves. Because we've got a prime minis
is doing a really good job. Have we tuned the
economy around where as you can see with a plation
coming down and interest rates from that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Honestly, what a whole lot of rubbish.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Okay, Well, Andrew Hogan, I won't ask you about the
leadership of the Act Party because it's a bit like
New Zealand First. It's a dictatorship. It's never going to change.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Oh no, no, no, David's his goal is to make
sure the party out last time. And no he's you know,
we've got a good party with lot of good people
in there. So no, it's a very congenial work environment.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Do you think the New Zealand First Party Grant McCallum
or will outlast Winston?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Possibly? Although I do know.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Winston remarks me one day he said, did you know
Greg that there was a senator in America that lived
to one hundred? So these newsflast people is.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Ever a while yet? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Okay, And the question is, well, all the rest of
us out last Winston?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Probably not, Andrew. We're putting on your Minister for Biosecurity hat.
It looks like a junket for you. Down to scott
based in Antarctica. You're doing new field tests down there
to speed up avian influenza monitoring, and I say good
on you. MPI has done a really good job or
we've done a good job with avian flu and obviously
(05:38):
with both us.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Yeah. Look, and I think it's really key, you know,
to get prepared for avian flu. It's it's not something
we can keep out. It's going to be a case
of when, not if. But the most important thing is
that monitoring that's occurring so people know when they can
get prepared. You can't spend all your time at CON
five one or whichever the heighest one is. We need
(06:03):
to be knowing how it's progressing around Antarctica, when it
might move up into the subek pactics, so people can
start taking appropriate steps and make sure that they heighten
their level of biosecurity on their farms. You know, it's
effected the rest of the world, farmers over there learning
how they live with it. We've had study tours over
(06:25):
to the UK and Australia to help our property producers
get better understanding there. So it's just part of the
program of making sure we're as prepared as we possibly
can be.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, and granted it's all a practice session really for
the biggie should it come here. And I see this
foot and mouth not only in Germany now but in
Hungary as well. It just reinforces the idea we've just
got to keep a strong guard on our borders.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
We absolutely doing icommend the work that Andrew's team are doing.
We just can't take our eye off the board here
at all ever, and people at the border a plain
about procedures around at the borders covering things into New
Zealand with both on the plane or stuff coming through
and containers. Sorry, we we just we cannot take those risks.
(07:11):
We'll destroy our economy.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Okay, I know you two have got to go to
a really interesting Select Committee meeting. Thank you very much
for your time, Andrew Hoggard, Grant McCullum Today's Farmer Politician Panel.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Thanks calculat
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