June 10, 2025 • 7 mins
The Prime Minister is at Fieldays to discuss the tax break on equipment for farmers, new legislation on carbon farming, reducing emissions, and KiwiSaver options for those wanting to buy their first farm.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To you a bit of country music, a bit of
Tim McGraw for the leader of the Country, Christopher Luxen.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You're pretty happy with that.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Oh, you can't beat Tim McGraw. That's amazing. No, that's awesome,
So thank you for doing that.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We did it especially for you.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Hey, how Posha's you stand here this year?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:13):
It used to be hardcore and you were outside and.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Now you've come inde and it's all pretty pretty possion here.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Well, we heard you were coming. Yeah, so we thought
we'd we better dish up something nice.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Advertising revenues at the Country, You've got a hell of
a lot better, haven't they.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Talk to me about You've only been here for obviously
a morning, like the rest of the hunters out there,
what's your initial response. I'm hearing, thanks to your tax
boost incentive that you're throwing in the budget, that there's
a lot of tractor dealers out there, including our sponsors brand,
who are very very happy with you.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Look, I mean it's I'm actually here for two full
days because I've always got frustrated I haven't got around
all the stores when I've been here just for the day.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
So really looking forward to that.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
But already spoken to a number of a tractor and
motorbike guys and they're already saying it's looking really good.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
And that was after just starting up this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
So, I mean, the whole point is we want aggri
culture pumping, We want this country growing, and one of
the ways we can do that is if that just
means that it makes it more attractive to make that
investment that you want to do around a tractor or
a header or whatever it is you wanting to invest in,
that's really good. So we've had a great reaction since
the budget on that.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Now legislation was introduced or is being introduced into the
House to prevent the blanket planting slash carbon farming. Is
this closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Well, it's doing exactly what we said in opposition we
would do. You had a six year period under that
labor government where we lost two hundred and sixty thousand
hectares of land that went from sheep and beef land
into forestry and those farm to forestry conversions. And what
we've said is that we're putting a moratorium on that.
It's actually legislation has been introduced. It'll be law by October.
(01:45):
But importantly, as we've signaled last year, it's backdated to
December last year, and it just means on land use
one to five that's restricted. On land use six, we
can actually have a cap about fifteen thousand hectares by ballot,
and an individual farmer can do whatever they want on
their land up to twenty five percent of their land
to get a credit for that. So I think it's
(02:06):
exactly what the industry wants. It's exactly what was you
know that was destroying rural communities.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
As we said, you announced it in December of last
year at the Gwai Mumu field. That's right, because but
I mean there's been a lot of carbon farming gone on.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, then the reality is since we announced it from
the fourth of December last year, it's anything that might
have happened between twenty twenty one and up until that
date that's in transition. But anything subsequent to December won't
have been coming.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Unless of course you've brought some seedlings.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Well, well you can find your workarounds. But I mean
the point is we're stopping it exactly as we said
we would in opposition.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay, hundreds of top environment lawyers are suing the New
Zealand government i EU over what they say is dangerously
and adequate, a dangerously an adequate plan to reduce submissions
to zero by twenty fifty.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yeah, look at no they read that.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
That's rubbish and I haven't read that one, and I
didn't read the letter last week either. So the bottom
line is this, we are the best farmers in the world, period.
We are the number one carbon efficient farmers in the world, period.
And I think when I've just come from Farmers for
Science stand, I'd encourage everybody to go there and.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Have a look at it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
We have amazing technology innovation coming down the pike that's
actually going to help us grow our productivity, grow production
and also lower emissions through the adoption of science and
technology and innovation. And that has been the story of
New Zealand farming and agriculture for the last one hundred
and fifty years. The reason we are so good is
that we are highly innovative and we adopt technology.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Well.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So you know what I'm excited about is that the
mood and the mindset is shifting from being villains to
everyone knowing they're deeply valued and we love them and
we want to actually work with the sector, not fight
the sector or do things to the sector.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
You've got that open letter from the Wokester UK climate
scientists last week and have you.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Read that yet? No, I haven't read it.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I won't because now, but the message is pretty simple, right,
don't send me the letter until you've sent the leaders
of one hundred and ninety four other country the letter
to say that you know you've got a problem with
agricultural emissions. I genuinely know that we can lower emissions.
We are already doing it. You know, we're actually well
on the pathway of delivering ten percent lower emissions by
(04:12):
twenty thirty, just by virtue of farmers adopting the stuff
that's out there already in good practice that's out there
so we can proof production, improve productivity, lower emissions because
we've got such excellent science, technology, innovation that's here and
it's on its way.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
So how far are we away from getting the key
we savor to get the young farmers into the farm
to be able to use it just like they can
to buy their face.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, So that was one of our policies as a
national party that we campaigned on we're going to do that,
and that makes complete sense.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
You should be able to do it for a farm
as much as for a house.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Sue's Redmain's already got a member's bill on the ballot,
and Nicholas taking advice from the ird because there's just
a few technical things like people will buy farms in
a company name rather than their personal name, which we
understand and get and we've got to.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Work our way through that. So you should be pretty.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Close, Winston Peters. We're spending a lot of time off
sure doing a really good job. In mind, Brandian's Foreign
Affairs minister has banned two extremist Israeli politicians. We join Australia, Canada,
the UK and Norway in doing that. Could we put
a blanket ban on Greta Tunberg while we're there?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Well, I mean, I think the issue there is despite
that stunt, I mean, the reality is, you know, Israel
needs to let unfettered aid and humanitarian assistants go into
to Palestine, into Gaza, and you know what you've seen
is you know Hamas has to release those hostages. You
know that what happened on October the seventh was absolutely abhorrent,
but equally, Israel has a responsibility to make sure there's
(05:38):
you know, unimpeded assistants and humanitarian aid going through and
what we're doing there is actually joining with our like
minded countries and partners to actually say a lot. There
are two politicians that are actually encouraging the illegal settlement
on the West Bank, which is something our long standing
position of New Zealand and many around the world to
say that that's illegal, and that's what we're doing.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
A travel band around those guys for What.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Does the rest of the day hold for the Prime
Minister at Field dots.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Well, great speech coming up next to the leaders of
the sector, which looking forward to doing, just laying out
more of our vision of why we believe in farming
and why we wanted to see it growing and doing
incredibly well and why we believe it can.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Do so well.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
We have an awesome, awesome country and agriculture plays such
a critical part to it. We want it honestly pumping
and growing really strongly. So that's key messages obviously Tonight
with you at the Royal Trust.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Galat dinner which will be great.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Thank you to you and Roe for hosting it and
him seeing it and then tomorrow more events and catching
up with people. And I really want to be here
for the two full days to wander around and just
talk to folk in the stores and see what they're
doing and what they're up to. And this morning I've
already been into the Science Fear and that's been amazing
to see some.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Of the technology being applied.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Spoken to a number of the tractor guys already and
they're saying Investment Boost is helping them by sell tractors.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Which is a good thing.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Prime Minister, thank you very much for your time. You
did you know why it creech?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
By the way, I know who he is, I don't
know him that well.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, well I think he was one of the founders. Yes,
he was of Open Country Daring. And I would give
you a block of cheese, but I figure you can
afford one yourself. But I have got Mark de Latour
coming up, the Chief Executive Country. We're going to give
away a couple of blocks of cheese to you guys
out there. Awesome and they are like Goldie.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Well, can I just say, mate, thank you for the
gift of the of the hat.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I kin when you're losing forty percent of your body
heat through this bald, bullet shaped look.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I've got going on. I appreciate the hat, so thank you,
so much better. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
There we go, Prime Minister Christopher Luxen, there you go,
being warmly received here at Mystery Creek
To you a bit of country music, a bit of
Tim McGraw for the leader of the Country, Christopher Luxen.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You're pretty happy with that.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Oh, you can't beat Tim McGraw. That's amazing. No, that's awesome,
So thank you for doing that.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We did it especially for you.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Hey, how Posha's you stand here this year?
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:13):
It used to be hardcore and you were outside and.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Now you've come inde and it's all pretty pretty possion here.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Well, we heard you were coming. Yeah, so we thought
we'd we better dish up something nice.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Advertising revenues at the Country, You've got a hell of
a lot better, haven't they.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Talk to me about You've only been here for obviously
a morning, like the rest of the hunters out there,
what's your initial response. I'm hearing, thanks to your tax
boost incentive that you're throwing in the budget, that there's
a lot of tractor dealers out there, including our sponsors brand,
who are very very happy with you.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Look, I mean it's I'm actually here for two full
days because I've always got frustrated I haven't got around
all the stores when I've been here just for the day.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
So really looking forward to that.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
But already spoken to a number of a tractor and
motorbike guys and they're already saying it's looking really good.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
And that was after just starting up this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
So, I mean, the whole point is we want aggri
culture pumping, We want this country growing, and one of
the ways we can do that is if that just
means that it makes it more attractive to make that
investment that you want to do around a tractor or
a header or whatever it is you wanting to invest in,
that's really good. So we've had a great reaction since
the budget on that.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Now legislation was introduced or is being introduced into the
House to prevent the blanket planting slash carbon farming. Is
this closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Well, it's doing exactly what we said in opposition we
would do. You had a six year period under that
labor government where we lost two hundred and sixty thousand
hectares of land that went from sheep and beef land
into forestry and those farm to forestry conversions. And what
we've said is that we're putting a moratorium on that.
It's actually legislation has been introduced. It'll be law by October.
(01:45):
But importantly, as we've signaled last year, it's backdated to
December last year, and it just means on land use
one to five that's restricted. On land use six, we
can actually have a cap about fifteen thousand hectares by ballot,
and an individual farmer can do whatever they want on
their land up to twenty five percent of their land
to get a credit for that. So I think it's
(02:06):
exactly what the industry wants. It's exactly what was you
know that was destroying rural communities.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
As we said, you announced it in December of last
year at the Gwai Mumu field. That's right, because but
I mean there's been a lot of carbon farming gone on.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, then the reality is since we announced it from
the fourth of December last year, it's anything that might
have happened between twenty twenty one and up until that
date that's in transition. But anything subsequent to December won't
have been coming.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Unless of course you've brought some seedlings.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Well, well you can find your workarounds. But I mean
the point is we're stopping it exactly as we said
we would in opposition.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Okay, hundreds of top environment lawyers are suing the New
Zealand government i EU over what they say is dangerously
and adequate, a dangerously an adequate plan to reduce submissions
to zero by twenty fifty.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yeah, look at no they read that.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
That's rubbish and I haven't read that one, and I
didn't read the letter last week either. So the bottom
line is this, we are the best farmers in the world, period.
We are the number one carbon efficient farmers in the world, period.
And I think when I've just come from Farmers for
Science stand, I'd encourage everybody to go there and.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Have a look at it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
We have amazing technology innovation coming down the pike that's
actually going to help us grow our productivity, grow production
and also lower emissions through the adoption of science and
technology and innovation. And that has been the story of
New Zealand farming and agriculture for the last one hundred
and fifty years. The reason we are so good is
that we are highly innovative and we adopt technology.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Well.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So you know what I'm excited about is that the
mood and the mindset is shifting from being villains to
everyone knowing they're deeply valued and we love them and
we want to actually work with the sector, not fight
the sector or do things to the sector.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
You've got that open letter from the Wokester UK climate
scientists last week and have you.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Read that yet? No, I haven't read it.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I won't because now, but the message is pretty simple, right,
don't send me the letter until you've sent the leaders
of one hundred and ninety four other country the letter
to say that you know you've got a problem with
agricultural emissions. I genuinely know that we can lower emissions.
We are already doing it. You know, we're actually well
on the pathway of delivering ten percent lower emissions by
(04:12):
twenty thirty, just by virtue of farmers adopting the stuff
that's out there already in good practice that's out there
so we can proof production, improve productivity, lower emissions because
we've got such excellent science, technology, innovation that's here and
it's on its way.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
So how far are we away from getting the key
we savor to get the young farmers into the farm
to be able to use it just like they can
to buy their face.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, So that was one of our policies as a
national party that we campaigned on we're going to do that,
and that makes complete sense.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
You should be able to do it for a farm
as much as for a house.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Sue's Redmain's already got a member's bill on the ballot,
and Nicholas taking advice from the ird because there's just
a few technical things like people will buy farms in
a company name rather than their personal name, which we
understand and get and we've got to.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Work our way through that. So you should be pretty.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Close, Winston Peters. We're spending a lot of time off
sure doing a really good job. In mind, Brandian's Foreign
Affairs minister has banned two extremist Israeli politicians. We join Australia, Canada,
the UK and Norway in doing that. Could we put
a blanket ban on Greta Tunberg while we're there?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Well, I mean, I think the issue there is despite
that stunt, I mean, the reality is, you know, Israel
needs to let unfettered aid and humanitarian assistants go into
to Palestine, into Gaza, and you know what you've seen
is you know Hamas has to release those hostages. You
know that what happened on October the seventh was absolutely abhorrent,
but equally, Israel has a responsibility to make sure there's
(05:38):
you know, unimpeded assistants and humanitarian aid going through and
what we're doing there is actually joining with our like
minded countries and partners to actually say a lot. There
are two politicians that are actually encouraging the illegal settlement
on the West Bank, which is something our long standing
position of New Zealand and many around the world to
say that that's illegal, and that's what we're doing.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
A travel band around those guys for What.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Does the rest of the day hold for the Prime
Minister at Field dots.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Well, great speech coming up next to the leaders of
the sector, which looking forward to doing, just laying out
more of our vision of why we believe in farming
and why we wanted to see it growing and doing
incredibly well and why we believe it can.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Do so well.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
We have an awesome, awesome country and agriculture plays such
a critical part to it. We want it honestly pumping
and growing really strongly. So that's key messages obviously Tonight
with you at the Royal Trust.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Galat dinner which will be great.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Thank you to you and Roe for hosting it and
him seeing it and then tomorrow more events and catching
up with people. And I really want to be here
for the two full days to wander around and just
talk to folk in the stores and see what they're
doing and what they're up to. And this morning I've
already been into the Science Fear and that's been amazing
to see some.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Of the technology being applied.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Spoken to a number of the tractor guys already and
they're saying Investment Boost is helping them by sell tractors.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Which is a good thing.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Prime Minister, thank you very much for your time. You
did you know why it creech?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
By the way, I know who he is, I don't
know him that well.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, well I think he was one of the founders. Yes,
he was of Open Country Daring. And I would give
you a block of cheese, but I figure you can
afford one yourself. But I have got Mark de Latour
coming up, the Chief Executive Country. We're going to give
away a couple of blocks of cheese to you guys
out there. Awesome and they are like Goldie.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Well, can I just say, mate, thank you for the
gift of the of the hat.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I kin when you're losing forty percent of your body
heat through this bald, bullet shaped look.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I've got going on. I appreciate the hat, so thank you,
so much better. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
There we go, Prime Minister Christopher Luxen, there you go,
being warmly received here at Mystery Creek
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