August 11, 2025 • 6 mins
The NZ First Leader and former Deputy PM comments on the Alliance Group deal, and why he’s no fan of foreign ownership. He also weighs in on political polls, high viz gear, throwing his leader under the bus about trains, and the prospect of Chlöe Swarbrick wanting to be the Minister of Finance.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Winston Peters, New Zealand first Leader, Foreign Affairs minister, former
Deputy Prime Minister on the show today. Lots to talk
about Winston And I know this is only just Scott,
I landed on your desk, but what are you what's
your initial thoughts on this Alliance Group deal selling to
the Irish company Dawn Meat sixty five percent of the
company for two hundred and fifty million dollars. I'm assuming,
(00:23):
with your nationalistic sort of attitude to things, you won't
like this deal. We've had a personal statement, well I'm
not sure you tell me, well.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
This make it a presonal a statement, but don't make
it both Well, it was a question, all right, it's
a question. Well, I say, and June first says, here
we go again. Remember Silver Firms Farms there was the
most fraudulent deal where the shareholders were denied the information,
where they multiplied the debt which were not true, and
(00:54):
they loaded the incomes which was not true, and got
away with the fraud. And I said at the time,
and here we go again. And my concern about it
is I'm dramatic concern about it because we should be
looking to own and maximize the value for our country
and our economy and for our workers the resources of
New Zealand. And this is a mind view, a serious mistake.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, but they had Hobson's choice. They had no other choice, effectively,
because no other suitor was prepared to front up with
some money. Was either that or sell it, and there's
now buyers.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
No, no, sorry, sorry Selfhom's fiance was a classic and
you're giving the same out argument now you know what
happened to time then your supportive National Party was carrying
on on this dance circus, and I was saying at
the time, this is a fraud of the worst sort.
Here we go again. What do you mean they've got
no option? We expect our New Zealand ownership and our
(01:46):
primary production, which is massively supported by this government, to
be good managers of their resources and their industries. That's
what's gone wrong here, isn't it. So why don't we
start asking questions of them before we just cave in
and met some other country own a major resource of
one of the most productive prime production economies in the
(02:06):
whole wide world.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
So do you think this might have problems getting past
the OIO?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I sure hope, So yes, I do. I mean, how
are we going to make our country wealthy if we're
going to repeat this mistake where the things which we
should own down to the villages and the settlements in
the countryside in managing it and for their own wealth,
which made as successful one time made us number two
in the world. If we go down this pathway of
(02:32):
selling opera assets for foreign ownership sixty five percent in
this case, this is the second one. Silver Firans fins
first and here comes the alliance. How did they ever
get to the situation? And why are you not examining
them on the program, asking the shareholdership and the management
what went wrong? And when a you're going to own
up to your dire I say it commercial inconfidence.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Okay, let me talk about the poll last night. And
I know you don't talk about poles, but if they
come out okay for you, you're often happy enough to talk
about them, and you make Shane is you are sure?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
No? I don't here you go again. You're not asked
the question. You make this epen before you start. And
I've never been happy to talk about fictional polls. Our
job is to turn those poles into confetti.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
And we are you'repe the preferred prime minister buy something
like eight percent of those polled or seven percent and
your pointers, Well you're popular. This could be a good
election for New Zealand. First Shane Shane Jones is running
around the country filling halls.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, Hulen person. Unlike the rest, we're going out and
talking to audi New Zealanders at the very base all
around the country. We're packing the halls. Yes, you're right.
What's remarkable about us packing the halls? There's no media coverage.
You smell a rat, Yeah I do, but it's not
going to stop us because it's the source and the
cause of our success. We're talking to all New Zealanders
(03:54):
and sharing their hopes and aspirations and our plans to
help them.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
There was plenty of media coverage of you refusing to
wear the hives vest.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well, you know, we don't go along with stylistic virtue
singing nonsense. We were getting on a train. Why would
you have to wear safety glasses and a helmet on
a train? Pray tell me that all wasted money when
we should get on the job building the train line
and the rail line as fast as possible.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Did do I? I don't know about trains, But did you
throw your leader under the bus on that occasion? Did
you make him look weak?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well, I didn't know that he'd buy helmet on, But
it's not my business to start telling people that address.
And by the way, pink as a color is not
internationally a safe color by way of official recognition. So
the ones who were in pink were in proper colorful
kickoff even if there was a danger.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Well, Barry Soper reckoned yesterday. If there was an accident,
they would pick you out by the blue pin stripe suit. Anyhow,
once ti, look, let me carry on, Let me carry on.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Not a down to the south? Aren't have been critical
for no?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
All right, all right, let's continue on with the prospect.
Heaven help us of Chloe Swarbrick being the Minister of
Finance in a labor led coalition government.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Look one journalist's answer this question, and I said, please
tell me how long did it take for you before
you stop laughing at that suggestion? It is laughable. It
tells me about the insiduous arrogance of some people. This
is someone who ran for the biggest local government in Australasia.
Now mean the aw conservacy to be the mayor and
now she's saying she should be the prime minister and
(05:30):
the Finance minister. Colossal arrogance when you think about it.
Couldn't he even run the school tuk shop if she tried.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Do you think Chris Hopkins's plan heading into the selection
maybe to do nothing? I mean he's already neck and
neck with national Now when it comes to preferred prime minister,
he's neck and neck with the incumbent and he's done nothing,
literally done nothing that might he might sleep walk to victory.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well you might think that about Your listeners are hoping
on one thing that's going to happen. They're going to
place their trust in a party called He's your person.
That's what's going to say this country. I've got good
news for you and all your listeners.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Okay, Winston Peters, thanks as always for your time. I'm
always entertaining and I'm looking forward to co hosting. I'm
not really co hosting. I'm m seeing for Shane Jones
who's doing a fundraiser at the Tapuki Rugby Club in
a couple of weeks time. And like his speeches around
the country, halls of this nation, he has packed out
the Tapuki Rugby club rooms or the community center as well.
(06:34):
So looking forward what he has to say off the record,
if it's anything like he is on the record, it's
going to be fun.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Thanks for your time, Thank you, have a good day.
Winston Peters, New Zealand first Leader, Foreign Affairs minister, former
Deputy Prime Minister on the show today. Lots to talk
about Winston And I know this is only just Scott,
I landed on your desk, but what are you what's
your initial thoughts on this Alliance Group deal selling to
the Irish company Dawn Meat sixty five percent of the
company for two hundred and fifty million dollars. I'm assuming,
(00:23):
with your nationalistic sort of attitude to things, you won't
like this deal. We've had a personal statement, well I'm
not sure you tell me, well.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
This make it a presonal a statement, but don't make
it both Well, it was a question, all right, it's
a question. Well, I say, and June first says, here
we go again. Remember Silver Firms Farms there was the
most fraudulent deal where the shareholders were denied the information,
where they multiplied the debt which were not true, and
(00:54):
they loaded the incomes which was not true, and got
away with the fraud. And I said at the time,
and here we go again. And my concern about it
is I'm dramatic concern about it because we should be
looking to own and maximize the value for our country
and our economy and for our workers the resources of
New Zealand. And this is a mind view, a serious mistake.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, but they had Hobson's choice. They had no other choice, effectively,
because no other suitor was prepared to front up with
some money. Was either that or sell it, and there's
now buyers.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
No, no, sorry, sorry Selfhom's fiance was a classic and
you're giving the same out argument now you know what
happened to time then your supportive National Party was carrying
on on this dance circus, and I was saying at
the time, this is a fraud of the worst sort.
Here we go again. What do you mean they've got
no option? We expect our New Zealand ownership and our
(01:46):
primary production, which is massively supported by this government, to
be good managers of their resources and their industries. That's
what's gone wrong here, isn't it. So why don't we
start asking questions of them before we just cave in
and met some other country own a major resource of
one of the most productive prime production economies in the
(02:06):
whole wide world.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
So do you think this might have problems getting past
the OIO?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I sure hope, So yes, I do. I mean, how
are we going to make our country wealthy if we're
going to repeat this mistake where the things which we
should own down to the villages and the settlements in
the countryside in managing it and for their own wealth,
which made as successful one time made us number two
in the world. If we go down this pathway of
(02:32):
selling opera assets for foreign ownership sixty five percent in
this case, this is the second one. Silver Firans fins
first and here comes the alliance. How did they ever
get to the situation? And why are you not examining
them on the program, asking the shareholdership and the management
what went wrong? And when a you're going to own
up to your dire I say it commercial inconfidence.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Okay, let me talk about the poll last night. And
I know you don't talk about poles, but if they
come out okay for you, you're often happy enough to talk
about them, and you make Shane is you are sure?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
No? I don't here you go again. You're not asked
the question. You make this epen before you start. And
I've never been happy to talk about fictional polls. Our
job is to turn those poles into confetti.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
And we are you'repe the preferred prime minister buy something
like eight percent of those polled or seven percent and
your pointers, Well you're popular. This could be a good
election for New Zealand. First Shane Shane Jones is running
around the country filling halls.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, Hulen person. Unlike the rest, we're going out and
talking to audi New Zealanders at the very base all
around the country. We're packing the halls. Yes, you're right.
What's remarkable about us packing the halls? There's no media coverage.
You smell a rat, Yeah I do, but it's not
going to stop us because it's the source and the
cause of our success. We're talking to all New Zealanders
(03:54):
and sharing their hopes and aspirations and our plans to
help them.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
There was plenty of media coverage of you refusing to
wear the hives vest.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well, you know, we don't go along with stylistic virtue
singing nonsense. We were getting on a train. Why would
you have to wear safety glasses and a helmet on
a train? Pray tell me that all wasted money when
we should get on the job building the train line
and the rail line as fast as possible.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Did do I? I don't know about trains, But did you
throw your leader under the bus on that occasion? Did
you make him look weak?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well, I didn't know that he'd buy helmet on, But
it's not my business to start telling people that address.
And by the way, pink as a color is not
internationally a safe color by way of official recognition. So
the ones who were in pink were in proper colorful
kickoff even if there was a danger.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Well, Barry Soper reckoned yesterday. If there was an accident,
they would pick you out by the blue pin stripe suit. Anyhow,
once ti, look, let me carry on, Let me carry on.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Not a down to the south? Aren't have been critical
for no?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
All right, all right, let's continue on with the prospect.
Heaven help us of Chloe Swarbrick being the Minister of
Finance in a labor led coalition government.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Look one journalist's answer this question, and I said, please
tell me how long did it take for you before
you stop laughing at that suggestion? It is laughable. It
tells me about the insiduous arrogance of some people. This
is someone who ran for the biggest local government in Australasia.
Now mean the aw conservacy to be the mayor and
now she's saying she should be the prime minister and
(05:30):
the Finance minister. Colossal arrogance when you think about it.
Couldn't he even run the school tuk shop if she tried.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Do you think Chris Hopkins's plan heading into the selection
maybe to do nothing? I mean he's already neck and
neck with national Now when it comes to preferred prime minister,
he's neck and neck with the incumbent and he's done nothing,
literally done nothing that might he might sleep walk to victory.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well you might think that about Your listeners are hoping
on one thing that's going to happen. They're going to
place their trust in a party called He's your person.
That's what's going to say this country. I've got good
news for you and all your listeners.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Okay, Winston Peters, thanks as always for your time. I'm
always entertaining and I'm looking forward to co hosting. I'm
not really co hosting. I'm m seeing for Shane Jones
who's doing a fundraiser at the Tapuki Rugby Club in
a couple of weeks time. And like his speeches around
the country, halls of this nation, he has packed out
the Tapuki Rugby club rooms or the community center as well.
(06:34):
So looking forward what he has to say off the record,
if it's anything like he is on the record, it's
going to be fun.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Thanks for your time, Thank you, have a good day.
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