September 12, 2024 • 6 mins
We catch up with a former stock agent, former All Blacks legend, former President of NZR, and former corporate high-flyer to talk Heartland Rugby and feeding the food banks with wild caught venison mince.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Heartland Rugby coverage with Agricultural Consulting Services delivering the latest
GPS mapping and drone technology. We love Heartland rugby here
on the country and it's great to catch up with
your all black heroes. One of mine in the seventies
and eighties was Bill Osborne for my money, along with
Bruce Robertson, arguably our finest ever midfield pairing.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Great to have you on the country. I know you're
right behind Heartland Rugby. In fact, the Bill Osborne tanga
is up for grabs for the best team in Heartland
rugby and your Wanganui team owns it at the moment.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Good afternoon, yeah mate, Yeah, we go on between two
places because you know, two of the Heartland teams in
the Chief Region have been battling it out over the
last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
But wangan he's gone and taken it home for us.
So kind of hard for me for being both camps.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Well, Wanganui beat Thames Valley sixteen fourteen, and I know
my offside Arewena Duncan's very pleased about this as well,
despite I read being down to fourteen men for the
third time in the match. So you did it the
hard way.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, they look. I wasn't there, but I heard that
the guy's courageous defense for the last fifteen to twenty
minutes of the game is what won up for them.
And you know, in the old days when J. J.
Steet was coaching, he always said that defense was the
best form of attack and most games were won by
a bit of defense rather than an attack. Well, he
still holds true today and Heartland Rugby absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I'm going to ask you a question which I know
the answer to, but I'll just get your view on it.
You made the All Blacks playing out of Wanganui, Andy Jefford,
I think made the All Blacks playing out of Poverty
Bay East Coast. You just can't do that anymore, unfortunately. No.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Well, there's different tiers now and it's a big, big,
big gap between Heartland Rugby and even Super Rugby, let
alone All Black Rugby. So you know, the games come
a long way and the professionalism's taken it, you know,
to heights that we couldn't have imagined.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Nowaday, you are a former president of n Z Rugby.
Matt Cooper's got the job. Now are you officially still
involved with rugby?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Well, I am to the extent that I'm Chair of
the Chiefs, and I contribute to the interests of rugby
over a wider arch of interest.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I'm right and saying you've got a pretty well, I
know you've got a very good rural connection. You started out,
of course, you started out from Wanganui. You were a
stock agent. That was back in the days when you
had to work and being all black at the same time.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, yeah, they were great memories made. It's that connection
to the heartland that really kept me anchored and business
and the later part of my life, you know, because
I can remember so clearly walking around farms talking to farmers,
salt of the youth, people you know that had common
sense like you couldn't imagine today, and they grounded you
(02:49):
and they made you think about what New Yellan was about.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
How did you make the transition from being a stock
agent to like a corporate high flyer.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Well, I went and got self educated properly at a
university and got a master's degree and that sort of
catapulted me forward and industry.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Really, So, when.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
You're a young guy, did you basically just leave school
become a stock agent with the view to being an
all Black.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Well, yeah, it was that. Rugby was my life, right,
so I took up roles that enabled me to pursue
that interest in training and physical activity, in particular playing
rugby and being an agent was good for that because
you know, you're out running around the hills and sort
and stock everywhere and moving constantly, and you had time
to train.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Talk to me about the hunt for good trust. Now,
this is something I think you and your son have
set up going out capturing deer or shooting deer. Can
I say that anymore? In large scale?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Bill?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And to make into mints for food banks. This is
a wonderful initiative. How did it come about?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well, look, it came about with my son hunting in
the Heartland Womano area and notice seeing helicopters culling deer
on the neighboring property, which is Ardiha and Corporation then,
which I'm a shareholder of, and of course I've come
from Adijo anyway. So when he saw that, he said, Dad,
we've got to do something about that. That's coming to waste.
It's efficient, but there's a lot of hungry people around.
(04:16):
We've got to do something about that. So we set
up this trust and now we do it by scale.
We did our pilot last weekend. We brought out thirty
five deer from Saturday's expedition and it's all going into
mince as we speak, and we'll be sort of bach
to food banks later on today.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Absolutely wonderful. While I've got you, it would be remiss
of me if I didn't ask you how you think
the All Blacks are going. Do you like our midfield
combination as Jordie and Rico, you Aannie the right ones?
Or are you like me maybe think Rico Uannie's a
better wing than a center.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Well, now, look, I think we've got the right players,
and I think we're just going through a phase we
were rebuilding after losing some experience. Yeah, I think we've
got the right coaching team, We've got right players. We'll
get through this transition and we'll be right back up there.
Remember South Africa is the best team in the world
and they've got the top players in the world who
(05:09):
are getting experience all over the world at the moment.
But when they come back together, they've got cohesion at
the moment. Now, when those players turn over, that cohesion
will dissipate and We'll be right there as we grow
our team into the new era of football.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Has there ever been a better center than Bruce Robertson.
I think I know your answer here too, name.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
That I know of, mate, and I'm biased of course,
because he helped me so much and he delivered our
ability to play together and make a difference. You know, Bill.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Osborne, It's been an absolute pleasure catching up with you again.
We must keep in touch and good well done on
your adventure hunt for good trust, filling those food banks
with venison mince from the hills. Always a pleasure to
catch up on the country and go Heartland rugby. And
I guess mid Canterbury in for a bit of a hiding,
are they, Bill?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well? Look, the real test is from twenty first to
September when wanting to defend the town at home. And
I'll be there, mate, I'll be there, don't worry.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Good on you, Thanks for your time.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Chis a reag fi
Heartland Rugby coverage with Agricultural Consulting Services delivering the latest
GPS mapping and drone technology. We love Heartland rugby here
on the country and it's great to catch up with
your all black heroes. One of mine in the seventies
and eighties was Bill Osborne for my money, along with
Bruce Robertson, arguably our finest ever midfield pairing.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Great to have you on the country. I know you're
right behind Heartland Rugby. In fact, the Bill Osborne tanga
is up for grabs for the best team in Heartland
rugby and your Wanganui team owns it at the moment.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Good afternoon, yeah mate, Yeah, we go on between two
places because you know, two of the Heartland teams in
the Chief Region have been battling it out over the
last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
But wangan he's gone and taken it home for us.
So kind of hard for me for being both camps.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Well, Wanganui beat Thames Valley sixteen fourteen, and I know
my offside Arewena Duncan's very pleased about this as well,
despite I read being down to fourteen men for the
third time in the match. So you did it the
hard way.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, they look. I wasn't there, but I heard that
the guy's courageous defense for the last fifteen to twenty
minutes of the game is what won up for them.
And you know, in the old days when J. J.
Steet was coaching, he always said that defense was the
best form of attack and most games were won by
a bit of defense rather than an attack. Well, he
still holds true today and Heartland Rugby absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I'm going to ask you a question which I know
the answer to, but I'll just get your view on it.
You made the All Blacks playing out of Wanganui, Andy Jefford,
I think made the All Blacks playing out of Poverty
Bay East Coast. You just can't do that anymore, unfortunately. No.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Well, there's different tiers now and it's a big, big,
big gap between Heartland Rugby and even Super Rugby, let
alone All Black Rugby. So you know, the games come
a long way and the professionalism's taken it, you know,
to heights that we couldn't have imagined.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Nowaday, you are a former president of n Z Rugby.
Matt Cooper's got the job. Now are you officially still
involved with rugby?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Well, I am to the extent that I'm Chair of
the Chiefs, and I contribute to the interests of rugby
over a wider arch of interest.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I'm right and saying you've got a pretty well, I
know you've got a very good rural connection. You started out,
of course, you started out from Wanganui. You were a
stock agent. That was back in the days when you
had to work and being all black at the same time.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, yeah, they were great memories made. It's that connection
to the heartland that really kept me anchored and business
and the later part of my life, you know, because
I can remember so clearly walking around farms talking to farmers,
salt of the youth, people you know that had common
sense like you couldn't imagine today, and they grounded you
(02:49):
and they made you think about what New Yellan was about.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
How did you make the transition from being a stock
agent to like a corporate high flyer.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Well, I went and got self educated properly at a
university and got a master's degree and that sort of
catapulted me forward and industry.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Really, So, when.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
You're a young guy, did you basically just leave school
become a stock agent with the view to being an
all Black.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Well, yeah, it was that. Rugby was my life, right,
so I took up roles that enabled me to pursue
that interest in training and physical activity, in particular playing
rugby and being an agent was good for that because
you know, you're out running around the hills and sort
and stock everywhere and moving constantly, and you had time
to train.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Talk to me about the hunt for good trust. Now,
this is something I think you and your son have
set up going out capturing deer or shooting deer. Can
I say that anymore? In large scale?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Bill?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And to make into mints for food banks. This is
a wonderful initiative. How did it come about?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well, look, it came about with my son hunting in
the Heartland Womano area and notice seeing helicopters culling deer
on the neighboring property, which is Ardiha and Corporation then,
which I'm a shareholder of, and of course I've come
from Adijo anyway. So when he saw that, he said, Dad,
we've got to do something about that. That's coming to waste.
It's efficient, but there's a lot of hungry people around.
(04:16):
We've got to do something about that. So we set
up this trust and now we do it by scale.
We did our pilot last weekend. We brought out thirty
five deer from Saturday's expedition and it's all going into
mince as we speak, and we'll be sort of bach
to food banks later on today.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Absolutely wonderful. While I've got you, it would be remiss
of me if I didn't ask you how you think
the All Blacks are going. Do you like our midfield
combination as Jordie and Rico, you Aannie the right ones?
Or are you like me maybe think Rico Uannie's a
better wing than a center.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Well, now, look, I think we've got the right players,
and I think we're just going through a phase we
were rebuilding after losing some experience. Yeah, I think we've
got the right coaching team, We've got right players. We'll
get through this transition and we'll be right back up there.
Remember South Africa is the best team in the world
and they've got the top players in the world who
(05:09):
are getting experience all over the world at the moment.
But when they come back together, they've got cohesion at
the moment. Now, when those players turn over, that cohesion
will dissipate and We'll be right there as we grow
our team into the new era of football.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Has there ever been a better center than Bruce Robertson.
I think I know your answer here too, name.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
That I know of, mate, and I'm biased of course,
because he helped me so much and he delivered our
ability to play together and make a difference. You know, Bill.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Osborne, It's been an absolute pleasure catching up with you again.
We must keep in touch and good well done on
your adventure hunt for good trust, filling those food banks
with venison mince from the hills. Always a pleasure to
catch up on the country and go Heartland rugby. And
I guess mid Canterbury in for a bit of a hiding,
are they, Bill?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well? Look, the real test is from twenty first to
September when wanting to defend the town at home. And
I'll be there, mate, I'll be there, don't worry.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Good on you, Thanks for your time.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Chis a reag fi
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