May 15, 2025 • 7 mins
Today’s brother and sister farmer panel features two of the sharpest young minds in agriculture. But can they agree on methane and the Paris Accord?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Young Farmer of the Year Grand Final FMG Young Farmer
of the Year Grand Final coming up in imber Cargo
in early July. One man who will be there will
be this man, Tim dangein twenty twenty two Young Farmer
of the Year. And Tim, you're a west Auckland beef farmer,
but not for much longer. You love the Grand Final
that much. You're moving down to Southland to milk cows
(00:20):
so you can be closer to the event. This is
a bit drastic, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You got Jamie that in the weather, Mate, A couple
of the reasons that we're making them move, but no,
just an exciting opportunity that has come up for my
wife and I and you were looking forward to getting
down and getting back to Milton Farm and Gummies Bosh
and working for Simon and Jeanine Hopcroft who are employers
of me ten years ago now so yet back to
the old stomping ground and really excited, mate, And.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Simon Hopcroft was the two thousand and four Young Farmer
of the Air. Now is this because you're looking jealously
at your younger sister Emma, who was the Young Farmer
of the Year in twenty twenty three and thinking she's
making a lot more money than me dairy farming, so
I'm going to try an equaler. A bit of sibling
rivalry here, Tom.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
No, I don't think I'll ever be able to catch
up to Emma and Chris. But yeah, like, certainly from
an opportunity point of view, that the financial aspects of
it are appealing, there's no doubt about that. But we've
also been at the home farm for ten years now,
and yeah, I'm really proud of the progress that we've
made here and the projects that we've completed, and now
it's just a chance for us to go off and
do something a little bit different for a while with
(01:27):
certainly the intention is to end up back at home here,
so we're really excited about it.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Jamie, Emma Paul knee Dangel twenty twenty three Young Farmer
of the Year. Are you going to miss.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Tim oh dearly?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Jamie. He's not going to be just up the road
for me anymore or two hours to Auckland, isn't it.
But you know I'll be seeing him first opportunity down
at the Grand Final myself, so I don't have to
wait too long, do I know?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
You don't, do you think that there is a bit
of sibling jealousy there you're coining at you and Chris,
your husband, are coining it as dairy farmers. And even
though beef's good costs a lot to you know, replace
beef animals. I don't know. I don't think they're making
as much as you rich dairy farmers, are they, Emma,
that'll get a bite.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Jamie in certainly not coining it. We're spending money pretty
fast at the moment, so it's just one of those things.
Tim's definitely we've been interested in what we've been doing,
but yeah, he's got his own skill set and he's
pretty good dairy farmer himself, so he doesn't need to
look too much at what we're doing, and I'm sure
he'll make his own goal of it.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
All work and no play makes Emma paul a dull
former Young Farmer of the Year. But your life's anything
but dull, Emma, because you've been supercar racing in Talpo
with New Holland.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, that's another great thing that came out of winning
the contest was really a partnership with New Holland. There
and the opportunity to be their brand ambassador. So the
supercars are a few weeks ago, but I've been a
bit pety on your show over the last month, sorry Jamie,
so we'ven't had a chance to catch.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Up about it.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
But yeah, we got to get down there with New
Holland and see another great community project that they're helping
to far. Then they sponsor the Red Bull ampul Racing team.
I can't say I was a huge supercar fan before
I went and saw what was going on, but that
was amazing to see and it was just such a
great community event. There was thousands of people who had
(03:13):
showed up in Taupo and a great thing for you know,
Chaupo tourism and the money at board into New Zealand
because it's usually on the Australian circuit so they only
have that one race in New Zealand a year, So
pretty cool thing for New Holland to support there.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And you'll also be supporting New Holland no doubt at
Field Days, where apart from being a brand ambassador, I
think you're also going to be a judge for the
Innovation Awards and the old days we used to call
it the inventions.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, it's pretty lucky to be part of that team, Jamie.
And it's been an exciting process and really neat to
see how many ford thinking people there are out there
in our industry trying to think of solutions every single day.
It's easy enough when you're on your own farm, head down,
battling away here to think that no one's coming up
with solutions to the problems that I've been overwhelmed with
(03:59):
the ens this year and I can't wait to see
them show up on the actual field days and get
to showcase to the public what they've been inventing.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
We talked about the Young Farmer Grand Final coming up
and in the Cargol this is news to me. I
thought it was like a final exam. You did everything
on the day or the three days. But there is
an internal assessment part of this, Tim Dangin, and that
is the technical projects they have been given those now,
I mean that's a month and a half out.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, you're right, Jamie. There is an exam on the
technical day at Grand Final as well. But obviously, in
our pursuit to find the best farmer in New Zealand
under the age of thirty one, we have to test
a wide range of skills, and a lot of that
stuff is often hard to test in the short time
frame that the grand finalists are there. So they get
given an innovation project now, which is worth about fifteen
(04:47):
percent of the overall marks. And the idea of this
project is a really sort of screw into some pretty
nitty gritty detail around how sound they are financially, what
their business accoms like, and really test renovation as well.
So you're the contestants, so we're looking at that now,
stretching their heads on. Sure, it's pretty tricky finding a
balance between coming up with something new and coming up
(05:08):
with something that's feasible. So it's a it's a really
neat part of the contest that often doesn't get a
lot of airtime but is quite critical and finding that
top young farmer.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
All right, let's just finish, because you two are amongst
the brightest and best in young farmers in this country.
I got two questions for the pair of you. I'll
go back to you, Emma, measuring methane in Paris. We're
measuring methane correctly and should we be staying in Paris?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Oh, you've been hot on this topic.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
This week, Jamie, I would stick with what Jeckyan said
this week and totally agree with her that we should
stay in the Paris according I'm pretty big on following
through on things that you start, So whether you agree
with it or not, we've started this now, so it'd
be good to follow through with some of the things
that we have promised. But in saying that, Jamie, we
can't lose sight of food production, and that is actually
(05:59):
part of the as the quarters they do have to
be able to maintain food production and amongst reducing greenhouse
scarce emissions. So that is just the most important thing
that we should be doing in the world right now.
There's people out there without food every day, So we
definitely don't want to be dialing back on something.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
We're measuring methane correctly, just quickly.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Who knows, Jamie, that's here?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Well you should go are You're one of our brightest
young minds. Tell me it's.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Sort of neither here nor there, Jamie. It doesn't matter
how you measure it, if people want it reduced, and
that's what our customers are asking for. Shouldn't we be
making some attempt to do something? And I don't think
we should be extreme and reduce kettle numbers and reduce
food output. But I don't think there's any harm in
spending a little bit of money in R and D
and you know, putting something away for a rainy day
(06:45):
so that we can reduce methane if we have to.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Okay, a quick final comment from you, Tim, because you
raised this issue.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, sure, answer is yes, I think we should get out.
It's just a matter of timing and I think now
it's too early. Are we measure correctly? I think no.
And my real problem with it all, Jamie, is that
we signed up to a flawed agreement from the start,
so we've sort of put ourselves in this position unfortunately.
So it's worth speaking up about. But I think the
timing isn't quite there to be pulling out of it
(07:13):
just yet.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So brother and sister disagreeing on this one.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It's not uncommon, man, but a sibling rhyme.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
All right, Hey, Emma, Paul will see you at field DA's, Tim,
I won't see you at field Das because you're making
your way down to the riviera of the South Riveton
to go dairy farm and good luck in your new venture.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Beautiful Tues Jamie
Young Farmer of the Year Grand Final FMG Young Farmer
of the Year Grand Final coming up in imber Cargo
in early July. One man who will be there will
be this man, Tim dangein twenty twenty two Young Farmer
of the Year. And Tim, you're a west Auckland beef farmer,
but not for much longer. You love the Grand Final
that much. You're moving down to Southland to milk cows
(00:20):
so you can be closer to the event. This is
a bit drastic, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You got Jamie that in the weather, Mate, A couple
of the reasons that we're making them move, but no,
just an exciting opportunity that has come up for my
wife and I and you were looking forward to getting
down and getting back to Milton Farm and Gummies Bosh
and working for Simon and Jeanine Hopcroft who are employers
of me ten years ago now so yet back to
the old stomping ground and really excited, mate, And.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Simon Hopcroft was the two thousand and four Young Farmer
of the Air. Now is this because you're looking jealously
at your younger sister Emma, who was the Young Farmer
of the Year in twenty twenty three and thinking she's
making a lot more money than me dairy farming, so
I'm going to try an equaler. A bit of sibling
rivalry here, Tom.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
No, I don't think I'll ever be able to catch
up to Emma and Chris. But yeah, like, certainly from
an opportunity point of view, that the financial aspects of
it are appealing, there's no doubt about that. But we've
also been at the home farm for ten years now,
and yeah, I'm really proud of the progress that we've
made here and the projects that we've completed, and now
it's just a chance for us to go off and
do something a little bit different for a while with
(01:27):
certainly the intention is to end up back at home here,
so we're really excited about it.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Jamie, Emma Paul knee Dangel twenty twenty three Young Farmer
of the Year. Are you going to miss.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Tim oh dearly?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Jamie. He's not going to be just up the road
for me anymore or two hours to Auckland, isn't it.
But you know I'll be seeing him first opportunity down
at the Grand Final myself, so I don't have to
wait too long, do I know?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
You don't, do you think that there is a bit
of sibling jealousy there you're coining at you and Chris,
your husband, are coining it as dairy farmers. And even
though beef's good costs a lot to you know, replace
beef animals. I don't know. I don't think they're making
as much as you rich dairy farmers, are they, Emma,
that'll get a bite.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Jamie in certainly not coining it. We're spending money pretty
fast at the moment, so it's just one of those things.
Tim's definitely we've been interested in what we've been doing,
but yeah, he's got his own skill set and he's
pretty good dairy farmer himself, so he doesn't need to
look too much at what we're doing, and I'm sure
he'll make his own goal of it.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
All work and no play makes Emma paul a dull
former Young Farmer of the Year. But your life's anything
but dull, Emma, because you've been supercar racing in Talpo
with New Holland.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah, that's another great thing that came out of winning
the contest was really a partnership with New Holland. There
and the opportunity to be their brand ambassador. So the
supercars are a few weeks ago, but I've been a
bit pety on your show over the last month, sorry Jamie,
so we'ven't had a chance to catch.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Up about it.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
But yeah, we got to get down there with New
Holland and see another great community project that they're helping
to far. Then they sponsor the Red Bull ampul Racing team.
I can't say I was a huge supercar fan before
I went and saw what was going on, but that
was amazing to see and it was just such a
great community event. There was thousands of people who had
(03:13):
showed up in Taupo and a great thing for you know,
Chaupo tourism and the money at board into New Zealand
because it's usually on the Australian circuit so they only
have that one race in New Zealand a year, So
pretty cool thing for New Holland to support there.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And you'll also be supporting New Holland no doubt at
Field Days, where apart from being a brand ambassador, I
think you're also going to be a judge for the
Innovation Awards and the old days we used to call
it the inventions.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, it's pretty lucky to be part of that team, Jamie.
And it's been an exciting process and really neat to
see how many ford thinking people there are out there
in our industry trying to think of solutions every single day.
It's easy enough when you're on your own farm, head down,
battling away here to think that no one's coming up
with solutions to the problems that I've been overwhelmed with
(03:59):
the ens this year and I can't wait to see
them show up on the actual field days and get
to showcase to the public what they've been inventing.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
We talked about the Young Farmer Grand Final coming up
and in the Cargol this is news to me. I
thought it was like a final exam. You did everything
on the day or the three days. But there is
an internal assessment part of this, Tim Dangin, and that
is the technical projects they have been given those now,
I mean that's a month and a half out.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, you're right, Jamie. There is an exam on the
technical day at Grand Final as well. But obviously, in
our pursuit to find the best farmer in New Zealand
under the age of thirty one, we have to test
a wide range of skills, and a lot of that
stuff is often hard to test in the short time
frame that the grand finalists are there. So they get
given an innovation project now, which is worth about fifteen
(04:47):
percent of the overall marks. And the idea of this
project is a really sort of screw into some pretty
nitty gritty detail around how sound they are financially, what
their business accoms like, and really test renovation as well.
So you're the contestants, so we're looking at that now,
stretching their heads on. Sure, it's pretty tricky finding a
balance between coming up with something new and coming up
(05:08):
with something that's feasible. So it's a it's a really
neat part of the contest that often doesn't get a
lot of airtime but is quite critical and finding that
top young farmer.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
All right, let's just finish, because you two are amongst
the brightest and best in young farmers in this country.
I got two questions for the pair of you. I'll
go back to you, Emma, measuring methane in Paris. We're
measuring methane correctly and should we be staying in Paris?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Oh, you've been hot on this topic.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
This week, Jamie, I would stick with what Jeckyan said
this week and totally agree with her that we should
stay in the Paris according I'm pretty big on following
through on things that you start, So whether you agree
with it or not, we've started this now, so it'd
be good to follow through with some of the things
that we have promised. But in saying that, Jamie, we
can't lose sight of food production, and that is actually
(05:59):
part of the as the quarters they do have to
be able to maintain food production and amongst reducing greenhouse
scarce emissions. So that is just the most important thing
that we should be doing in the world right now.
There's people out there without food every day, So we
definitely don't want to be dialing back on something.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
We're measuring methane correctly, just quickly.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Who knows, Jamie, that's here?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Well you should go are You're one of our brightest
young minds. Tell me it's.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Sort of neither here nor there, Jamie. It doesn't matter
how you measure it, if people want it reduced, and
that's what our customers are asking for. Shouldn't we be
making some attempt to do something? And I don't think
we should be extreme and reduce kettle numbers and reduce
food output. But I don't think there's any harm in
spending a little bit of money in R and D
and you know, putting something away for a rainy day
(06:45):
so that we can reduce methane if we have to.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Okay, a quick final comment from you, Tim, because you
raised this issue.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, sure, answer is yes, I think we should get out.
It's just a matter of timing and I think now
it's too early. Are we measure correctly? I think no.
And my real problem with it all, Jamie, is that
we signed up to a flawed agreement from the start,
so we've sort of put ourselves in this position unfortunately.
So it's worth speaking up about. But I think the
timing isn't quite there to be pulling out of it
(07:13):
just yet.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So brother and sister disagreeing on this one.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
It's not uncommon, man, but a sibling rhyme.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
All right, Hey, Emma, Paul will see you at field DA's, Tim,
I won't see you at field Das because you're making
your way down to the riviera of the South Riveton
to go dairy farm and good luck in your new venture.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Beautiful Tues Jamie
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