July 15, 2025 • 5 mins
We catch up with one half of the NZ Shearing Team ahead of the Welsh Test Series, starting on Saturday. This follows on from a loss to Scotland and wins against England and France.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Normally when we talk about greats from Tekuwedi, we talk
about Sir Colin Meads or Sir David Fagan. But here's
someone who's certainly making his name on the international stage,
son of It's not Glynn Meads, No, it's Jack Fagan
who's over there representing New Zealand in the Test Series
against the likes of Scotland, England, France and Wales. Coming up,
(00:22):
Jack Fagan referring to Colin Meads, this is a bit
like a Grand Slam rugby tour for you and Tower Henderson.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah it is, Jamie. We're on a pretty good form
at the moment and really looking forward to getting down
into Wales.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well, let's talk about last weekend Tower Henderson claiming his
first big success in the Northern Hemisphere. He had a
great season in the New Zealand Sharing season and winning
both the big main titles. But he won the French
Championship and you were second, and then you cleaned up
the French in the Test Series.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, we had a pretty special trip to France. Taus
Or absolutely incredible and in the final that was about
as good as he could go. And yeah we trumped
the French by eleven points in the test, which was
which was quite a big win, to be honest, that's
that it'd be like winning in rugby. But I sort
of eighty points to ten, So yeah, we trumped them
(01:15):
well in that and I come away with the win
at the speech here and it's yeah, sure it was
not as cool for me getting secked in to tour,
but I know every time that he beats me, I'm
only getting stronger. So we're really competitive as a team.
But when we get to that individual final, it's all on.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Hey is the big money in the speed share like
there is here in New Zealand?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
No, not at all. It's a bit more fun over here.
It was only one hundred and fifty euro to win
that one, but it was pretty special on a back
of a trailer and sort of boosack the little village
and all the townfolk come out and watch you share
and have a have a pretty good night along with it.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So you've had a loss against Scotland, which was anchored
by a kiwi Gavin much, you've had wins over England
and France, and as I said, you're going to this
weekend the first of your tests. I think against Wales.
What difference is there in the sheep, for instance, what
I'm assuming and the Scottish sheep will be quite different
(02:12):
to a New Zealand cross bread.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, absolutely, Jamie, So that the Scottish sheep be sure
with blackies you can look them up on Google, but
they're a bit more like a mountain goat with big horns.
And I've said it before that there's some of the wildest,
most vicious sheep you can share. If they had win,
I think they would make it to Greenland for a
quick stop before heading on their way to the North
Toll there. They've got a lot of energy. But that
(02:35):
the Welsh sheep we're going to be sharing it will
all be lambs, and what's unique about them is there's
probably six different breeds of Welsh lambs will be sharing
with the Welsh. Mountain lambs would be probably a little
bit more tricky with the wool type and the type
of skin they have. You have to use really special
combs on them, and Tour hasn't shown them before. But
he is by far the most adaptable sharer on the
(02:59):
circuit at them. So I've got big hopes for him
and him and himself to do well for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
You hardly get any time to acclimatize to the different breeds.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
No, not really, Jamie. I'm lucky. I've been over here
now for fifteen years, ever since i could share, so
I've got really good knowledge of the gear and the
sheep and what's using these competitions, and I'm trying to
help Tour out as much as i can when it
comes to these tests, so we can hit the ground running.
But yeh, there's not much downtime at all. We pretty
much landed off the plane into work and then straight
(03:32):
into competition. So it's been a good fun so far.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yea, As I said, a lost to Scotland, wins over
England and France. What a whale's going to be like?
Who are their stars?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So Keeth and Lewis He set a two stand British
record the other day. He also claimed a solo at
our U British record, so he's arguably the strongest Welsh
sharer on form at the moment and his teammate in
the first test will be clear Jones. He had to
failed record attempt just out of mastered and back in December,
(04:03):
so another really strong share and then there's the potential
for an entirely new Welsh team for the last two Tests.
As we head into the Royal Welsh we'll find out
who will become the Championship of Wales and win the
Welsh Sharing circuit. So it could be the same two shares,
but there's also a chance we could have a new team.
But yet it's going to be a hell of a battle.
They're certainly specialists on their own sheet.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Is it straight home for you after the Welsh Test Series?
Back to the Teco Eddy Dairy Farm and sharing here
in New Zealand. Are you staying over for the rest
of their season.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I'll stay over for another couple of weeks. There's a
few good shows on Wales the week after our Test
tour and I want to go and hit them in
preparation for World Champs twenty nine. I'm always trying to
get more combs coming down and just practicing on the
lambs and then the last competition heading over to Ireland
up to Donny Gaul and we've got a big show
there which will be our brad finale for the season,
(04:57):
before coming back home for a couple of weeks and
then heading the wat in Australia.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Well, Jack Fagan, it's late in the evening your time.
I know you've got to get to bed, get up
early and get some sharing. And thanks for some of
your time. You and Toy Henderson are doing us proud
on the other side of the world.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Don't worries teers Dammy
Normally when we talk about greats from Tekuwedi, we talk
about Sir Colin Meads or Sir David Fagan. But here's
someone who's certainly making his name on the international stage,
son of It's not Glynn Meads, No, it's Jack Fagan
who's over there representing New Zealand in the Test Series
against the likes of Scotland, England, France and Wales. Coming up,
(00:22):
Jack Fagan referring to Colin Meads, this is a bit
like a Grand Slam rugby tour for you and Tower Henderson.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah it is, Jamie. We're on a pretty good form
at the moment and really looking forward to getting down
into Wales.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well, let's talk about last weekend Tower Henderson claiming his
first big success in the Northern Hemisphere. He had a
great season in the New Zealand Sharing season and winning
both the big main titles. But he won the French
Championship and you were second, and then you cleaned up
the French in the Test Series.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, we had a pretty special trip to France. Taus
Or absolutely incredible and in the final that was about
as good as he could go. And yeah we trumped
the French by eleven points in the test, which was
which was quite a big win, to be honest, that's
that it'd be like winning in rugby. But I sort
of eighty points to ten, So yeah, we trumped them
(01:15):
well in that and I come away with the win
at the speech here and it's yeah, sure it was
not as cool for me getting secked in to tour,
but I know every time that he beats me, I'm
only getting stronger. So we're really competitive as a team.
But when we get to that individual final, it's all on.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Hey is the big money in the speed share like
there is here in New Zealand?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
No, not at all. It's a bit more fun over here.
It was only one hundred and fifty euro to win
that one, but it was pretty special on a back
of a trailer and sort of boosack the little village
and all the townfolk come out and watch you share
and have a have a pretty good night along with it.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So you've had a loss against Scotland, which was anchored
by a kiwi Gavin much, you've had wins over England
and France, and as I said, you're going to this
weekend the first of your tests. I think against Wales.
What difference is there in the sheep, for instance, what
I'm assuming and the Scottish sheep will be quite different
(02:12):
to a New Zealand cross bread.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, absolutely, Jamie, So that the Scottish sheep be sure
with blackies you can look them up on Google, but
they're a bit more like a mountain goat with big horns.
And I've said it before that there's some of the wildest,
most vicious sheep you can share. If they had win,
I think they would make it to Greenland for a
quick stop before heading on their way to the North
Toll there. They've got a lot of energy. But that
(02:35):
the Welsh sheep we're going to be sharing it will
all be lambs, and what's unique about them is there's
probably six different breeds of Welsh lambs will be sharing
with the Welsh. Mountain lambs would be probably a little
bit more tricky with the wool type and the type
of skin they have. You have to use really special
combs on them, and Tour hasn't shown them before. But
he is by far the most adaptable sharer on the
(02:59):
circuit at them. So I've got big hopes for him
and him and himself to do well for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
You hardly get any time to acclimatize to the different breeds.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
No, not really, Jamie. I'm lucky. I've been over here
now for fifteen years, ever since i could share, so
I've got really good knowledge of the gear and the
sheep and what's using these competitions, and I'm trying to
help Tour out as much as i can when it
comes to these tests, so we can hit the ground running.
But yeh, there's not much downtime at all. We pretty
much landed off the plane into work and then straight
(03:32):
into competition. So it's been a good fun so far.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yea, As I said, a lost to Scotland, wins over
England and France. What a whale's going to be like?
Who are their stars?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So Keeth and Lewis He set a two stand British
record the other day. He also claimed a solo at
our U British record, so he's arguably the strongest Welsh
sharer on form at the moment and his teammate in
the first test will be clear Jones. He had to
failed record attempt just out of mastered and back in December,
(04:03):
so another really strong share and then there's the potential
for an entirely new Welsh team for the last two Tests.
As we head into the Royal Welsh we'll find out
who will become the Championship of Wales and win the
Welsh Sharing circuit. So it could be the same two shares,
but there's also a chance we could have a new team.
But yet it's going to be a hell of a battle.
They're certainly specialists on their own sheet.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Is it straight home for you after the Welsh Test Series?
Back to the Teco Eddy Dairy Farm and sharing here
in New Zealand. Are you staying over for the rest
of their season.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I'll stay over for another couple of weeks. There's a
few good shows on Wales the week after our Test
tour and I want to go and hit them in
preparation for World Champs twenty nine. I'm always trying to
get more combs coming down and just practicing on the
lambs and then the last competition heading over to Ireland
up to Donny Gaul and we've got a big show
there which will be our brad finale for the season,
(04:57):
before coming back home for a couple of weeks and
then heading the wat in Australia.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Well, Jack Fagan, it's late in the evening your time.
I know you've got to get to bed, get up
early and get some sharing. And thanks for some of
your time. You and Toy Henderson are doing us proud
on the other side of the world.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Don't worries teers Dammy
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