December 15, 2024 • 6 mins
We ask the Act Party leader for his Politician of the Year and for his Ag Person of the Year. But does he script to the script?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wrapping twenty twenty four with some of our regular correspondents.
Here's one of them. David Seymour pipped at the post
for Politician of the Year. According to Claire Trevette, one
of my favorite writers in The Herald. She's awarded the
prize to Sime and Brown also and mention and dispatches
to party Murray. Is that right, Debbie and Raweri along
(00:21):
with you, David Seymour, you'll be happy to be grouped
with them.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, I guess what you can say. We're engaged in
the same debate, so I guess we're groups like that,
but another really the company.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, come on, David, let's be honest. You and Debbie
and Raweri are all disruptors, Claire wrote, and she's bang
on about you. However, at times he caused more strife
for the government he's a part of than the opposition
parties combined have. And this is all to do with
your Treaty Principles Bill.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, but here's the difference, right like you saw it
in Parliament. I'm setting a set of principles that I
think are essential to New Zealand's prosperity. Basically, just equal
rights for all humans by getting up and doing war
dancers and shouting and getting in people's faces and trying
to stop votes being cast in Parliament. That's a very
(01:18):
very different type of disruption. And so yeah, I know
it's hapsed to be a fun column, but I just
point out what those guys have done this year a
bit different. So I don't really like being group with
them on that.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, you probably won't get an argument from me. The
theme this week on the country as we wrap twenty
twenty four and it's been an interesting and very challenging years.
Ag Person of the Year before you name yours, I
want you to do a clear trevette and name your
Politician of the Year. But I'm going to put a
week caveat on this, David Seymour, I don't want it
(01:50):
to be an act MP. Think outside the square. Who
would it be?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, I'd probably go with the new Argentine president. He's
doing serious reform.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
No no, no, no, no, no, you're not playing the game, David. David,
you're not playing the game I'm talking about in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
No, you said think outside the square. Argentina's outside the
square and I think that's doing a great.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Job, isn't he a right wing nutter.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Well, see that's just the thing though, you're you're part
of the woke media establishment. If you if you were
to look at what he's actually doing. He's cut waste,
he's cut departments, he's done a lot of the things
that that Act would say our government should be doing,
and to some extent is but what it's meant is
he's actually got interest rates down and he's given ordinary
(02:39):
Argentinians just trying to get by a bit more hope
and a bit less buocracy. And I think he's actually well.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I think you've just landed insult of the air, bundling
me in with the woke media. Come on, and David.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Seymour, he've bundled me in with departy.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, okay, fair, that's one. All. Name a politician outside
of the Act Haucus who has done good work or
impressed you this year, because there have been some. I mean,
Simon Brown's a good example. I would throw Erica Stanford
and there Mark Mitchell just to chuck a couple of
names at you.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Keeper's all right, well I'm going to go with Donald
Trump in that case. Come on, well, I mean, whether
you like him or not, And I think there are
things he's done that should concern you. What he represents
is a rejection of this anti anti New Zealand or
(03:34):
in their case, anti American belief that we're all bad
people and we've got to apologize in a tone, and
this belief that you know, depending on how much of
a victim you are, to get a different status some society.
I mean, he's just thrown all that away, He's laughed
in its face, and I think it's a major turning
point and it does actually affect New Zealand because I
think it will affect our culture and it also is
(03:56):
going to affect us on things that they trade and
defense lasually good israelvant to New Zealand, and you know,
love and or hate him, he did manage to win
against all lots.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I think secretly you'd like to award it to our
Foreign Minister Winston Peters, because I know how well you
two get along. Okay, let's move on to something you
can give me a straight answer for David Seymour to
wrap the year, because I know, to be fair to
the Act Party, ant New Zealand, First International, in fact,
to the whole coalition government, you couldn't ask much more
from a farmer's point of view, you've tied it up
(04:28):
a lot of the rubbish that farmers were facing after
six years of labor. So who's your ag person of
the year.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, you didn't send any conditions this time, so I'm
going to say ex Mark Cameron. You know, Mark I
has had a really tragic year personally, he continues to
battle a pretty serious illness. But I would argue that
the reason that we've got a government with good results
is that he really dominated the field for three years
(04:58):
in opposition. He started massively and he did massively increase
ACT support in rural New Zealand. And I think because
of that you've seen the National Party in particular address
issues that they probably wouldn't have otherwise done. So, you know,
Chris Luxon, I think the other day said that sorry,
they might have been Simon Watt said that James Shawes's friend.
(05:21):
But the government is taking on a split gas approach,
taking methane out of the ets, and we're actually addressing
fresh water as well and scna's and those are all
things that have a Mark Cameron signature. So I think
over three years he created the pressure for that to happen.
(05:41):
And I think it's rare that one person can take
so much credit for the direction of a government, even
though he's not a minister. I think a lot of
what the ministers are doing is groundwork that he laid
with some formidable rural campaigning over three years.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And he's a good blog he sure is. David Seymour,
thank you for your time throughout twenty twenty four. I
hope you get a break because I know you politicians
get a lot of stick, but you do work incredibly
hard and we'll catch you back next year. Have a
good one.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Here's James
Wrapping twenty twenty four with some of our regular correspondents.
Here's one of them. David Seymour pipped at the post
for Politician of the Year. According to Claire Trevette, one
of my favorite writers in The Herald. She's awarded the
prize to Sime and Brown also and mention and dispatches
to party Murray. Is that right, Debbie and Raweri along
(00:21):
with you, David Seymour, you'll be happy to be grouped
with them.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, I guess what you can say. We're engaged in
the same debate, so I guess we're groups like that,
but another really the company.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, come on, David, let's be honest. You and Debbie
and Raweri are all disruptors, Claire wrote, and she's bang
on about you. However, at times he caused more strife
for the government he's a part of than the opposition
parties combined have. And this is all to do with
your Treaty Principles Bill.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, but here's the difference, right like you saw it
in Parliament. I'm setting a set of principles that I
think are essential to New Zealand's prosperity. Basically, just equal
rights for all humans by getting up and doing war
dancers and shouting and getting in people's faces and trying
to stop votes being cast in Parliament. That's a very
(01:18):
very different type of disruption. And so yeah, I know
it's hapsed to be a fun column, but I just
point out what those guys have done this year a
bit different. So I don't really like being group with
them on that.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, you probably won't get an argument from me. The
theme this week on the country as we wrap twenty
twenty four and it's been an interesting and very challenging years.
Ag Person of the Year before you name yours, I
want you to do a clear trevette and name your
Politician of the Year. But I'm going to put a
week caveat on this, David Seymour, I don't want it
(01:50):
to be an act MP. Think outside the square. Who
would it be?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, I'd probably go with the new Argentine president. He's
doing serious reform.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
No no, no, no, no, no, you're not playing the game, David. David,
you're not playing the game I'm talking about in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
No, you said think outside the square. Argentina's outside the
square and I think that's doing a great.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Job, isn't he a right wing nutter.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Well, see that's just the thing though, you're you're part
of the woke media establishment. If you if you were
to look at what he's actually doing. He's cut waste,
he's cut departments, he's done a lot of the things
that that Act would say our government should be doing,
and to some extent is but what it's meant is
he's actually got interest rates down and he's given ordinary
(02:39):
Argentinians just trying to get by a bit more hope
and a bit less buocracy. And I think he's actually well.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I think you've just landed insult of the air, bundling
me in with the woke media. Come on, and David.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Seymour, he've bundled me in with departy.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, okay, fair, that's one. All. Name a politician outside
of the Act Haucus who has done good work or
impressed you this year, because there have been some. I mean,
Simon Brown's a good example. I would throw Erica Stanford
and there Mark Mitchell just to chuck a couple of
names at you.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Keeper's all right, well I'm going to go with Donald
Trump in that case. Come on, well, I mean, whether
you like him or not, And I think there are
things he's done that should concern you. What he represents
is a rejection of this anti anti New Zealand or
(03:34):
in their case, anti American belief that we're all bad
people and we've got to apologize in a tone, and
this belief that you know, depending on how much of
a victim you are, to get a different status some society.
I mean, he's just thrown all that away, He's laughed
in its face, and I think it's a major turning
point and it does actually affect New Zealand because I
think it will affect our culture and it also is
(03:56):
going to affect us on things that they trade and
defense lasually good israelvant to New Zealand, and you know,
love and or hate him, he did manage to win
against all lots.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I think secretly you'd like to award it to our
Foreign Minister Winston Peters, because I know how well you
two get along. Okay, let's move on to something you
can give me a straight answer for David Seymour to
wrap the year, because I know, to be fair to
the Act Party, ant New Zealand, First International, in fact,
to the whole coalition government, you couldn't ask much more
from a farmer's point of view, you've tied it up
(04:28):
a lot of the rubbish that farmers were facing after
six years of labor. So who's your ag person of
the year.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, you didn't send any conditions this time, so I'm
going to say ex Mark Cameron. You know, Mark I
has had a really tragic year personally, he continues to
battle a pretty serious illness. But I would argue that
the reason that we've got a government with good results
is that he really dominated the field for three years
(04:58):
in opposition. He started massively and he did massively increase
ACT support in rural New Zealand. And I think because
of that you've seen the National Party in particular address
issues that they probably wouldn't have otherwise done. So, you know,
Chris Luxon, I think the other day said that sorry,
they might have been Simon Watt said that James Shawes's friend.
(05:21):
But the government is taking on a split gas approach,
taking methane out of the ets, and we're actually addressing
fresh water as well and scna's and those are all
things that have a Mark Cameron signature. So I think
over three years he created the pressure for that to happen.
(05:41):
And I think it's rare that one person can take
so much credit for the direction of a government, even
though he's not a minister. I think a lot of
what the ministers are doing is groundwork that he laid
with some formidable rural campaigning over three years.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And he's a good blog he sure is. David Seymour,
thank you for your time throughout twenty twenty four. I
hope you get a break because I know you politicians
get a lot of stick, but you do work incredibly
hard and we'll catch you back next year. Have a
good one.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Here's James
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