June 17, 2025 • 7 mins
We let an outspoken North Otago farmer off the chain and she reckons we should be more worried about Global War-ing than Global Warming. We also talk about the Green Party's fiscal folly released yesterday. And we finished by talking bull and a record price for an Angus Black Beauty.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You've heard from Winston. Peters has another high profile commentator
on the country, Jane Smith, North Otago farmer, of course,
former winner of the Balance Farm Environment Awards, which are
on tonight. Hey Jane, just before we get into the
issues of the day, an unscientific poll at Field Days
had Jane and Shane is my most popular correspondence. That's
(00:23):
of course you and the Prince of the Provinces. Should
I be worried?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Well, thank you, Jamie. That's almost a compliment, but I'll
take it. Jamie. I don't get many compliments around here,
so thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Is that all you've got to say.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's about it, Jamie. I mean, I'm just really literally
standing out in the paddock every fortnights, I guess shooting
from the Jamie, which are not quite as articulous as
Shane Jones. But I'm just I guess a grassroots messaging
from the paddock. Jamie.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Well, let's get some of that grass root messaging from
the paddock. You reckon we should be and I'm totally
with you on this. In Winston also spoke about this,
we should be more worried about global warring rather than
global warming.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, absolutely, Jamien. You know, as a trading nation, we
should be very concerned, you know, in terms of the
conflict that's happening. And we've spend to spend fuar too
much time on praying at the ultar of climate change
in terms of the Paris Agreement, and not enough time
in terms of actually looking at that conflict escalation that's happening.
(01:25):
So yeah, we should be very very concerned. But again, Buck,
here in Old New Zealand, we seem to be apologizing
for things that actually, in the biggest scheme of things
are tiny and actually and actually we're knowling.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Anyway, Winston made a talent comment and he referred to
where we are in the world at the moment as
the sort of the stickiest, most dangerous time since the
Cuban missile crisis when Kennedy and Khrushchief were going head
to head in the early nineteen sixties. You were you
weren't even a twinkle in your father's eye back then, Jane.
But he's putting it into some sort of historic perspective.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And that is the really concerning thing in terms of
what that might mean again for little Old New Zealand
going forward. And so that's why we need to be
as resilient and as robust in terms of our economy
as we can, but instead we seem to be finding
fifty ways to hamstring our own economy. And you know,
I saw, oh, the Green Party's unhinged policy, fiscal policy
(02:23):
or fiscal folly or what fiester if you want to
call it something else. It was lacking both oxygen and
a grasp of real wood reality. And you know, the
Greens has suddenly decided that debt is the way forward.
And I think that sugguced that something like one hundred
and twenty two percent of GDP would be perfectly fine
to chase the debt. And it's interesting. The same day
(02:44):
I heard an interview with Chloe Swobrick, I heard one
with Ruth Richardson, and it was chalk and cheese Jamie,
you know, when she was talking about dealing to the
debt and deficits and cutting your cloth and having you know,
balancing the box Jamie, and it was really I don't know,
it was just really cut for and exactly what we need.
So and that said, I did actually agree with some
(03:04):
of the things that old Steve Abel from the Green Party,
and I actually wonder whether you should get him on
your show, actually, Jamie, because actually he's a reasonably sensible
rooster amongst the socialist Henhouse and the Green Party.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Okay, well, Jane, you're referring to the Q and a
interview with Jack Tame, which I thought the whole show
was really good. I'm not quite sure whether we can
totally justify Ruth Richardson's Mother of All budgets in the
early nineteen nineties too hard, too fast. But anyhow, going
back to Steve Abel, disagree with literally everything he said,
except for the bit about pine trees.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, but I actually really liked how he talked about
the whole story around healthy nutrition, biodiversity, mosaic landscapes, and
the brutal truth is those are the type of things
that we should be promoting instead of actually going cap
in hands to the rest of the world saying really
sorry about our mission profile. Actually that the brutal truth
(03:58):
is that actually we should have enough courage to actually
be proud of our omissions profile. The fact that it's
food producing and actually something like the Paris Accord is
actually essentially not relevant in that regard, So you know,
it's barely worth the paper. It's written on. Yet it
could be costing US billions of dollars and perpetuity for
a reversible land just change. And it's exactly what Steve
(04:20):
Abel was saying, not on the mission emission side of things,
but at the end of the day, the pine tree
plantations are just the symptom of the bigger problem. And
I know that the current coalition have announced, you know,
made their new announcement that was sort of trying to
make up for the impotent one that they made in
December last year, but an effect that's really just arranging
the dit ches on the Titanic while the band plays on.
(04:42):
So actually we need to be really really bold about
our pathway forward, so instead of you know, again spending
so much money. It's funny, isn't it, Jamie. We sent
to scrimp and save in so many areas, so health, education, infrastructure,
But when it comes to a mission's reduction, it really
is there's money to swa and there's a lot of
people set to make a lot of money from methay mitigation, Jamie.
(05:04):
And it's a pretty sad state of affairs that that's
the case.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I agree with you, we shouldn't be cutting any spending
at all on health. But the Green Party, you can't
take them seriously. They would be the death of farming,
a wealth tax and inheritance tax like the British farmers
are facing. Chloe said, we don't live on a monopoly
board land barons. That's people like you, Jane Smith, have
got to get out of jail free card.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Oh well I wouldn't. Yeah again, but they certainly understand
the chef and b sector and the low one puts sector,
the hill and the high country. And yet sure don't
let them near the chipbook. Absolutely not. But actually they
went back to their roots, which the original founders of
the Green Party did. They actually understand that, you know
that we're at a crossroads in terms of that natural, sustainable,
(05:49):
biodiversely you know the fact that we're food producing heroes
and what's happening in the moment. Of course, we've got
the corporate the corporate interference. You know, We've got Nile,
which is essentially a junk food company trying to tell
us what to do. And I guess our intensive side
of farming is really trying to turn us into a
quasi eu, so actually forcing us into feed lots, and
(06:11):
it's really sad that we've been told to be quiet
about this and actually that we can't have a upfront
debase as a country. We seem to be looking over
our shoulder and saying it's big brother watching. We better
be quiet about this. Actually, lets be really really honest
and say, actually we are different. Our mission's profile is different,
and we're really really proud of it because actually, instead
of a point of difference in terms of our resources,
(06:33):
we're actually making it into a pointless difference.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Jamie, talking about emission's profiles, I think yours is going
to go up when you and Harbi Blair chet off
to the Mediterranean perhaps this winter for a holiday, maybe
a yacht trip around the Mediterranean. Off the back of
selling an angus ball last week, Jane for seventy one
thousand dollars. That's a lot of ball and a lot
(06:56):
of moolah.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I'm not sure about that, Jami, because'm actually look, the
bills are on my deec that are waiting for me
at lunchtime to pay, and they're fairly sizable as well.
But you know, we're just pleased that showed the positivity,
not singularly that ball, and it's going to a really
great anger start in the North Island. But actually the
fact that she even bee farmers are now able to
have some confidence and make some long term decisions on
(07:21):
their farming operations. So now we're pleased and our average
didn't get too high. Overall, it was just a good
stable sale. And no, Jamie, I won't be going to
the Mediterranean. I'll be lucky to make it to Tour
Tap Prie if Bli's got anything to do with it, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Wow, he's the Southland to through and through Tour tap
He's got a lovely golf course. It's a beautiful part
of New Zealand and Western Southland. Jane Smith, I'll let
you go. I know you've got a flat out afternoon
of farming in front of you. Thanks for some of
your time at lunchtime. Get those bills paid before your
head out the door.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Thanks Jamie,
You've heard from Winston. Peters has another high profile commentator
on the country, Jane Smith, North Otago farmer, of course,
former winner of the Balance Farm Environment Awards, which are
on tonight. Hey Jane, just before we get into the
issues of the day, an unscientific poll at Field Days
had Jane and Shane is my most popular correspondence. That's
(00:23):
of course you and the Prince of the Provinces. Should
I be worried?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Well, thank you, Jamie. That's almost a compliment, but I'll
take it. Jamie. I don't get many compliments around here,
so thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Is that all you've got to say.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's about it, Jamie. I mean, I'm just really literally
standing out in the paddock every fortnights, I guess shooting
from the Jamie, which are not quite as articulous as
Shane Jones. But I'm just I guess a grassroots messaging
from the paddock. Jamie.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Well, let's get some of that grass root messaging from
the paddock. You reckon we should be and I'm totally
with you on this. In Winston also spoke about this,
we should be more worried about global warring rather than
global warming.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, absolutely, Jamien. You know, as a trading nation, we
should be very concerned, you know, in terms of the
conflict that's happening. And we've spend to spend fuar too
much time on praying at the ultar of climate change
in terms of the Paris Agreement, and not enough time
in terms of actually looking at that conflict escalation that's happening.
(01:25):
So yeah, we should be very very concerned. But again, Buck,
here in Old New Zealand, we seem to be apologizing
for things that actually, in the biggest scheme of things
are tiny and actually and actually we're knowling.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Anyway, Winston made a talent comment and he referred to
where we are in the world at the moment as
the sort of the stickiest, most dangerous time since the
Cuban missile crisis when Kennedy and Khrushchief were going head
to head in the early nineteen sixties. You were you
weren't even a twinkle in your father's eye back then, Jane.
But he's putting it into some sort of historic perspective.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And that is the really concerning thing in terms of
what that might mean again for little Old New Zealand
going forward. And so that's why we need to be
as resilient and as robust in terms of our economy
as we can, but instead we seem to be finding
fifty ways to hamstring our own economy. And you know,
I saw, oh, the Green Party's unhinged policy, fiscal policy
(02:23):
or fiscal folly or what fiester if you want to
call it something else. It was lacking both oxygen and
a grasp of real wood reality. And you know, the
Greens has suddenly decided that debt is the way forward.
And I think that sugguced that something like one hundred
and twenty two percent of GDP would be perfectly fine
to chase the debt. And it's interesting. The same day
(02:44):
I heard an interview with Chloe Swobrick, I heard one
with Ruth Richardson, and it was chalk and cheese Jamie,
you know, when she was talking about dealing to the
debt and deficits and cutting your cloth and having you know,
balancing the box Jamie, and it was really I don't know,
it was just really cut for and exactly what we need.
So and that said, I did actually agree with some
(03:04):
of the things that old Steve Abel from the Green Party,
and I actually wonder whether you should get him on
your show, actually, Jamie, because actually he's a reasonably sensible
rooster amongst the socialist Henhouse and the Green Party.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Okay, well, Jane, you're referring to the Q and a
interview with Jack Tame, which I thought the whole show
was really good. I'm not quite sure whether we can
totally justify Ruth Richardson's Mother of All budgets in the
early nineteen nineties too hard, too fast. But anyhow, going
back to Steve Abel, disagree with literally everything he said,
except for the bit about pine trees.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, but I actually really liked how he talked about
the whole story around healthy nutrition, biodiversity, mosaic landscapes, and
the brutal truth is those are the type of things
that we should be promoting instead of actually going cap
in hands to the rest of the world saying really
sorry about our mission profile. Actually that the brutal truth
(03:58):
is that actually we should have enough courage to actually
be proud of our omissions profile. The fact that it's
food producing and actually something like the Paris Accord is
actually essentially not relevant in that regard, So you know,
it's barely worth the paper. It's written on. Yet it
could be costing US billions of dollars and perpetuity for
a reversible land just change. And it's exactly what Steve
(04:20):
Abel was saying, not on the mission emission side of things,
but at the end of the day, the pine tree
plantations are just the symptom of the bigger problem. And
I know that the current coalition have announced, you know,
made their new announcement that was sort of trying to
make up for the impotent one that they made in
December last year, but an effect that's really just arranging
the dit ches on the Titanic while the band plays on.
(04:42):
So actually we need to be really really bold about
our pathway forward, so instead of you know, again spending
so much money. It's funny, isn't it, Jamie. We sent
to scrimp and save in so many areas, so health, education, infrastructure,
But when it comes to a mission's reduction, it really
is there's money to swa and there's a lot of
people set to make a lot of money from methay mitigation, Jamie.
(05:04):
And it's a pretty sad state of affairs that that's
the case.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I agree with you, we shouldn't be cutting any spending
at all on health. But the Green Party, you can't
take them seriously. They would be the death of farming,
a wealth tax and inheritance tax like the British farmers
are facing. Chloe said, we don't live on a monopoly
board land barons. That's people like you, Jane Smith, have
got to get out of jail free card.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Oh well I wouldn't. Yeah again, but they certainly understand
the chef and b sector and the low one puts sector,
the hill and the high country. And yet sure don't
let them near the chipbook. Absolutely not. But actually they
went back to their roots, which the original founders of
the Green Party did. They actually understand that, you know
that we're at a crossroads in terms of that natural, sustainable,
(05:49):
biodiversely you know the fact that we're food producing heroes
and what's happening in the moment. Of course, we've got
the corporate the corporate interference. You know, We've got Nile,
which is essentially a junk food company trying to tell
us what to do. And I guess our intensive side
of farming is really trying to turn us into a
quasi eu, so actually forcing us into feed lots, and
(06:11):
it's really sad that we've been told to be quiet
about this and actually that we can't have a upfront
debase as a country. We seem to be looking over
our shoulder and saying it's big brother watching. We better
be quiet about this. Actually, lets be really really honest
and say, actually we are different. Our mission's profile is different,
and we're really really proud of it because actually, instead
of a point of difference in terms of our resources,
(06:33):
we're actually making it into a pointless difference.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Jamie, talking about emission's profiles, I think yours is going
to go up when you and Harbi Blair chet off
to the Mediterranean perhaps this winter for a holiday, maybe
a yacht trip around the Mediterranean. Off the back of
selling an angus ball last week, Jane for seventy one
thousand dollars. That's a lot of ball and a lot
(06:56):
of moolah.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I'm not sure about that, Jami, because'm actually look, the
bills are on my deec that are waiting for me
at lunchtime to pay, and they're fairly sizable as well.
But you know, we're just pleased that showed the positivity,
not singularly that ball, and it's going to a really
great anger start in the North Island. But actually the
fact that she even bee farmers are now able to
have some confidence and make some long term decisions on
(07:21):
their farming operations. So now we're pleased and our average
didn't get too high. Overall, it was just a good
stable sale. And no, Jamie, I won't be going to
the Mediterranean. I'll be lucky to make it to Tour
Tap Prie if Bli's got anything to do with it, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Wow, he's the Southland to through and through Tour tap
He's got a lovely golf course. It's a beautiful part
of New Zealand and Western Southland. Jane Smith, I'll let
you go. I know you've got a flat out afternoon
of farming in front of you. Thanks for some of
your time at lunchtime. Get those bills paid before your
head out the door.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Thanks Jamie,
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