May 18, 2025 • 6 mins
We lighten things up a little with a well-known rural mental health advocate, raconteur and hobby farmer.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lots of talk as we discussed with David Seymour about
the budget and what might be in it for agriculture.
I do hope that there's some more funding for rural
mental health because it's a serious issue and a real issue.
One man who does a lot of great work in
that space is Matt CHISHLM, rural mental health advocate, and Matt,
can I still call you former celebrity Treasure Island star
(00:21):
or are you're sick of that?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I've probably had enough of that, Jamie, to be honest,
I think I think we've all moved on. Twenty twenty
two I think was the last year I did that.
So now you can call me whatever you like on
the step that you're talking to me, Jamie nowherries at all.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Well, I'm happy to be talking to you. Minds you.
You were the star at the Harriot one hundred and
fortieth Rugby celebrations over the weekend, and I think your
guest speakers were Marty Banks and none other than Andrew Whore.
I reckon Andrew ware Is. I encouraged him a few
years ago. I said, you want to get onto the
public speaking circuit. I know he's a bit gruff, but gee,
(00:56):
he's dry witted. He's funny, that guy.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Look, I had my doubts too, to be honest, and
I hope Andrew's listening because he's a lot stronger than me, obviously.
And I wasn't the only person who had my doubts.
And people were just worried because I was running the
cutter and there was Marty who loses a goose, and
then Andrew. But I don't know if we could have
been any better. And Andrew Whore is brilliant. He is
a phenomenal speaker. He's really really funny, tells a great
(01:22):
yarn and he's not even he doesn't even look like
he's trying. He's actually very very quick with it. Yeah,
he's a clever man, and he's got some put stories
and he's not even afraid to tell them when his
wife sitting in the front row, which is brilliant.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, some of them are awe butt pg rated, But
there you go. If you're looking for a good speaker
at your Rugby centenary or one fiftieth, I know we've
got our one twenty fifth Riversdale coming up. We might
have to encourage Hary to come down. He is a
great storyteller. Okay, so you were born and raised in
like Lawrence, which is just over the Hilton Milton Milton. Okay, sorry,
(01:57):
but you played forty for Lawrence, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I did played forty for Lawrence. Yeah, and they were
Lawrence were playing Harriet on their big birth you know,
their celebration, their birthday bash. And I turned up there
and I thought it's a bit torn here, and I
wanted to cheer for Lawrence, and then I was on
the Herriot side. And then I remembered that, you know,
if Lawrence beat Harriet at the one hundred and fortieth
birthday bash, well the night's not as going to be
(02:21):
as good as it could be. So I soon figured
that out and started backing Harriot. Yeah, and it worked,
but Lawrence, they wanted to spoil the party. But it
was a bloody good game of footy and wet conditions
and I was pretty impressed with the talent on offer. Yeah,
it was a great game. Seven. I think the Blue
and White hopes got up.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, that heartland rural in New Zealand at it's absolute best.
And of course while you were m seeing in Harriet
over the hell these towns by the way folks are
in West Otago. Michelle was m seeing the Century Farm
and Station Awards at Lawrence. What a great little town, Lawrences,
don't you think, mate.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Lawrence is a cracker. Yeah. They've done a great job
on sort of beautify their main street. And there's not
probably a lot of streets off the main street. Little
sleepy little village, but beautiful main street. And I went
there for six weeks half my life ago and stayed
for about two years. It is a great little town,
great community, great footy club and yeah, yeah, she would
(03:17):
have had a good time Michelle doing that. A lot
of good people there in Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
What are you doing with yourself these days other than
farming on your hobby farm that's actually more than a
hobby farm. Now, because I know you've taken time out
of a really busy day in the stockyards to talk
to us today, matchism.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That's right. I've got Ken from Silver Firm Farms turning
up here at three o'clock going to get rid of
a few cul us and a few cul lambs ram lambs, Jamie,
So you know there's probably going to be twenty five
animals going along on a truck. Later on and so
I don't know, I've really got time for this conversation.
But I love that sort of work, so I'm doing
(03:53):
a bit of that today, which is going to be fantastic.
But now I still do a lot of them, seeing
I probably cut my throat before when I was talking
about how good Hoary Wrell. But a lot of speaking
and I've done those books and mucking around. But I
have got something else in the pipeline, which I'm told
IM can't quite tell you about yet because it hasn't
been made official, which is a bugger because I want
to tell you about it.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Well you've got to give me first tips on it.
Does it like in the.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Media, No, No, it's not in the media. Michelle was
asking me, she's talking about the budget, you know, and
this rural health stuff, and I said to her, any
any funding for Royal mental health is a bloody good thing,
because you know, our farmer has been doing it tough
for a couple of years. Things are obviously picking up now,
so that's a good thing. But I said to it,
I don't really follow the media now, notice to speak, Michelle,
but I'm kind of living in a wee bubble with
(04:35):
my wee farm here and in the country in the
rural community, and coaching a lot of sports, which I
really love. But I can't comment on the budget and
what's in it because I haven't been following it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Well, well, no one knows what's in it yet. It's
not coming out till Thursday. I'll give you the clue
on that one. Have you ever thought about your twenty
five lambs you're sending away this afternoon, that maybe you
could load up the old four wheeler and the motorbike trailer.
You'd get them there in two trips.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, would, and I and do a bit of that, Jamie.
But the thing is, I don't know if we've talked
about this or not, but I'm about nine weeks into
a twelve week loss of license, Jamie. So if I
wanted to go to the pub two k down the road,
I'd have to take the ride on Lawnmark.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
At least you didn't lose your license for drink driving
because you don't drink anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Was as a heavy foot, was it, mate?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, it's just a couple too many times, Like I
do a lot of driving and I get complacent. But
my word, my advericacy work today will go as far
as this, like if you don't drink drive because it
can kind of ruin your relationship with your partner at home.
You know, I coached the rugby, coach the soccer I'm
all over the country and my wife has really had
to pull a finger out even more than she already does.
(05:45):
She's already superwoman. But and our relationship, you know, we're
in the trenches here with the young kids. So it
was an ideal in the first place, and then then
I go and do this to her, so she's got
to do three hundred more trips than she usually does,
and she's reasonably unhappy with me at the moment because
they've got my license.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
It will pass. Take it from an older man, Matt,
it will pass.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
All right, relationship to the relationship.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
No, no, no, the grumpiness. I'm just waiting for it
to pass. At our place. Hey, Matt, I've got to go.
Thanks for some of your time, taking time out of
a very busy day in the stockyards to talk to us.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Thank you so much. Jammie, always good to talk to
you mate. Have you done well
Lots of talk as we discussed with David Seymour about
the budget and what might be in it for agriculture.
I do hope that there's some more funding for rural
mental health because it's a serious issue and a real issue.
One man who does a lot of great work in
that space is Matt CHISHLM, rural mental health advocate, and Matt,
can I still call you former celebrity Treasure Island star
(00:21):
or are you're sick of that?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I've probably had enough of that, Jamie, to be honest,
I think I think we've all moved on. Twenty twenty
two I think was the last year I did that.
So now you can call me whatever you like on
the step that you're talking to me, Jamie nowherries at all.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Well, I'm happy to be talking to you. Minds you.
You were the star at the Harriot one hundred and
fortieth Rugby celebrations over the weekend, and I think your
guest speakers were Marty Banks and none other than Andrew Whore.
I reckon Andrew ware Is. I encouraged him a few
years ago. I said, you want to get onto the
public speaking circuit. I know he's a bit gruff, but gee,
(00:56):
he's dry witted. He's funny, that guy.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Look, I had my doubts too, to be honest, and
I hope Andrew's listening because he's a lot stronger than me, obviously.
And I wasn't the only person who had my doubts.
And people were just worried because I was running the
cutter and there was Marty who loses a goose, and
then Andrew. But I don't know if we could have
been any better. And Andrew Whore is brilliant. He is
a phenomenal speaker. He's really really funny, tells a great
(01:22):
yarn and he's not even he doesn't even look like
he's trying. He's actually very very quick with it. Yeah,
he's a clever man, and he's got some put stories
and he's not even afraid to tell them when his
wife sitting in the front row, which is brilliant.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, some of them are awe butt pg rated, But
there you go. If you're looking for a good speaker
at your Rugby centenary or one fiftieth, I know we've
got our one twenty fifth Riversdale coming up. We might
have to encourage Hary to come down. He is a
great storyteller. Okay, so you were born and raised in
like Lawrence, which is just over the Hilton Milton Milton. Okay, sorry,
(01:57):
but you played forty for Lawrence, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I did played forty for Lawrence. Yeah, and they were
Lawrence were playing Harriet on their big birth you know,
their celebration, their birthday bash. And I turned up there
and I thought it's a bit torn here, and I
wanted to cheer for Lawrence, and then I was on
the Herriot side. And then I remembered that, you know,
if Lawrence beat Harriet at the one hundred and fortieth
birthday bash, well the night's not as going to be
(02:21):
as good as it could be. So I soon figured
that out and started backing Harriot. Yeah, and it worked,
but Lawrence, they wanted to spoil the party. But it
was a bloody good game of footy and wet conditions
and I was pretty impressed with the talent on offer. Yeah,
it was a great game. Seven. I think the Blue
and White hopes got up.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, that heartland rural in New Zealand at it's absolute best.
And of course while you were m seeing in Harriet
over the hell these towns by the way folks are
in West Otago. Michelle was m seeing the Century Farm
and Station Awards at Lawrence. What a great little town, Lawrences,
don't you think, mate.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Lawrence is a cracker. Yeah. They've done a great job
on sort of beautify their main street. And there's not
probably a lot of streets off the main street. Little
sleepy little village, but beautiful main street. And I went
there for six weeks half my life ago and stayed
for about two years. It is a great little town,
great community, great footy club and yeah, yeah, she would
(03:17):
have had a good time Michelle doing that. A lot
of good people there in Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
What are you doing with yourself these days other than
farming on your hobby farm that's actually more than a
hobby farm. Now, because I know you've taken time out
of a really busy day in the stockyards to talk
to us today, matchism.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That's right. I've got Ken from Silver Firm Farms turning
up here at three o'clock going to get rid of
a few cul us and a few cul lambs ram lambs, Jamie,
So you know there's probably going to be twenty five
animals going along on a truck. Later on and so
I don't know, I've really got time for this conversation.
But I love that sort of work, so I'm doing
(03:53):
a bit of that today, which is going to be fantastic.
But now I still do a lot of them, seeing
I probably cut my throat before when I was talking
about how good Hoary Wrell. But a lot of speaking
and I've done those books and mucking around. But I
have got something else in the pipeline, which I'm told
IM can't quite tell you about yet because it hasn't
been made official, which is a bugger because I want
to tell you about it.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Well you've got to give me first tips on it.
Does it like in the.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Media, No, No, it's not in the media. Michelle was
asking me, she's talking about the budget, you know, and
this rural health stuff, and I said to her, any
any funding for Royal mental health is a bloody good thing,
because you know, our farmer has been doing it tough
for a couple of years. Things are obviously picking up now,
so that's a good thing. But I said to it,
I don't really follow the media now, notice to speak, Michelle,
but I'm kind of living in a wee bubble with
(04:35):
my wee farm here and in the country in the
rural community, and coaching a lot of sports, which I
really love. But I can't comment on the budget and
what's in it because I haven't been following it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Well, well, no one knows what's in it yet. It's
not coming out till Thursday. I'll give you the clue
on that one. Have you ever thought about your twenty
five lambs you're sending away this afternoon, that maybe you
could load up the old four wheeler and the motorbike trailer.
You'd get them there in two trips.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, would, and I and do a bit of that, Jamie.
But the thing is, I don't know if we've talked
about this or not, but I'm about nine weeks into
a twelve week loss of license, Jamie. So if I
wanted to go to the pub two k down the road,
I'd have to take the ride on Lawnmark.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
At least you didn't lose your license for drink driving
because you don't drink anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Was as a heavy foot, was it, mate?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, it's just a couple too many times, Like I
do a lot of driving and I get complacent. But
my word, my advericacy work today will go as far
as this, like if you don't drink drive because it
can kind of ruin your relationship with your partner at home.
You know, I coached the rugby, coach the soccer I'm
all over the country and my wife has really had
to pull a finger out even more than she already does.
(05:45):
She's already superwoman. But and our relationship, you know, we're
in the trenches here with the young kids. So it
was an ideal in the first place, and then then
I go and do this to her, so she's got
to do three hundred more trips than she usually does,
and she's reasonably unhappy with me at the moment because
they've got my license.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
It will pass. Take it from an older man, Matt,
it will pass.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
All right, relationship to the relationship.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
No, no, no, the grumpiness. I'm just waiting for it
to pass. At our place. Hey, Matt, I've got to go.
Thanks for some of your time, taking time out of
a very busy day in the stockyards to talk to us.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Thank you so much. Jammie, always good to talk to
you mate. Have you done well
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