May 18, 2025 • 8 mins
Today’s farmer panel features "the two Sandys from Gizzy" - the Federated Farmers adverse events spokeswoman and the Rural Women NZ president.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's been like herding cats trying to get this panel together,
but I've eventually got them. The two Sandra's from Guzzy,
Sandra Matthews, head of Rural Women in z And Sandra Faulkner,
who's federated Farmer's Adverse Events spokesperson. Let's start with weather
and track conditions. Where you both come from, Poverty Bay,
East Coast. Pretty good season, I understand. I'll start with you.
(00:21):
I'll go alphabetically. I'll go with Faulkner before Matthews. Hello, Sandra,
Hi Jamie.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's great to be talking with you again. We're having
the most fantastic grass growing season up here. It's there's
no other way to describe the aside from bloody, marvelous, frankly,
and it's a rare thing for us off here.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
How far apart do you two guys live.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We're about forty five minutes. Yeah, so I'm south of
Gasban City and Andra's out west.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Okay, Sandra from out west. You sound like something from
outrageous Fortune, don't you take it? Your faring equally well
on your phone?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, Hi Jamie, Yeah we are. We've had a really
good season. One of the lucky ones. I think the
East Coast has deserved a good season for a change,
and lands are just astronomically doing astronomically well. The cattle
are looking great and there's actually grasp so that's good.
And we've got a bit of water. So yeah, absolutely stoked.
If you call me Sandra and Sandra f Sandra, that
(01:19):
will differentiate us, I think because I'm the Aussie and
she's the pee week.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
All right, Sandra and Sandra, I'll never remember that. I'll
go back to I'm just going to call you by
your surnames. I think the Matthews that will be easier. Okay,
you are working with Matthews. This is Federated Farmers working
in with rural women and z regarding your submissions around
(01:43):
natural disasters.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So the consultation is open at the moment around the
new Civil Defense and Emergency Management legislation. It's something that
the rural community is deeply engaged with because of course,
we all know that when mother Nature throws her toys
quite often it's it's farmers that get out there first,
(02:09):
because you know, for us, recovery starts the morning when
you pull your boots on after an event. There's there's
very little opportunity to have the four hours, you know,
the reduction, the readiness, the response and recovery. We just
we just full on dealing with it and it comes
in form of recovery. So what we've gone out for
(02:31):
and asked for and advocated strongly for is a primary
sector liaison role which sits embedded within the SINE structure.
And it all gets a bit acronymy and I do
apologize for that, but it sits alongside health and safety
and logistics and intelligence and everything else. Because the group
of control is that I talk to up and down
(02:52):
this country really want to know that they have one conjured,
one liaison that speaks to our rural community, these rural
businesses and the organizations that support them.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
In an interview, Okay, rural women, as Sandra Matthews is
celebrating one hundred years not out this year.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
We are and we won't be out for another one
hundred or another two hundred years. Jamie. We've got our
centennial coming up, starting off in July with a wonderful
event over in Taranaki where one of the first meetings was,
and then we have a whole year of celebrations culminating
in a whopping great event event in Wellington in July
twenty twenty six. Very exciting year for real women New
(03:33):
Zealand because.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
There was a tie up with Federated Farmers back in
the day. Wasn't the weon't you the Women's Division of
Federated Farmers? Was that one of your names? Your pre
existing names?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
That was one of them, Jamie, the Women's Division Federated Farmers.
We came out in nineteen twenty five from the Farmers' Union.
So a group of women got together while the memory
at their conference and said, hey, we need to look
at supporting and networking women around the country. So not
long after, one of the women that came together, I
think there were sixteen, came together and one of them
(04:06):
wrote two thousand letters and posts them all around the country.
And that's how Rural Women got started will Women's Division
back then of the Farmer's Union. So it's been a
long journey and we've done some amazing things over the
last hundred years, and we continue to do amazing things today.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Absolutely. Sandra Faulkner with Federated Farmers, Sandra Matthews with Rural Woman.
I just want to finish by asking the pair of you,
you're talking about natural disasters. Of course you had Gabrielle,
which was the mother of all national disasters. And every
time I chat to the pair of you since it happened,
what are we twenty twenty three? That's what two and
a half years ago?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You're something like that? So have you fully recovered on
your farm? I'll stay with you, Sandra Matthews, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
We've just finished the outside of the painting of our
house from all the work that needed to be done
last Thursday. We still have a retaining wall on the
house to be finished off. I'm looking at my office
window and looking at the scars on the hill behind me.
But I will say we have done all our fencing,
we have done all our tracks, our colvert our dams.
(05:11):
Everything on the farm has been repaired. Now Ian's walking
around with a bit of a smile on his face
because we've got grass and water and everything's hunky dor
at the moment. So yeah, it's taken two and a
half years and it's been a long road and it's
been an easy one. There has been some very stressful times,
and thank goodness, Sundra's not very far down the road
because we tend to throw a few expleeders around occasionally
(05:34):
between us. But it's been, like you know, it's been
one of those journeys that we had to go through,
and I'm actually really looking forward to things settling down, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I'll bet you well. Sandra Folk, what about your farm.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Well, we were probably one of the lucky ones and
Gabriel itself, bearing in mind that that whole year it
just rained and rained and rained, and so we sort
of watched the farm dissolve around us later on in
the year, sort of through June July through Gabriel itself.
We didn't get hit as hard as up where Sundra
(06:09):
Matthew's Sunda. So that meant that I was able to
get to town be working alongside the emergency in the
emergency operating center, bringing that local knowledge, bringing that local voice,
and also just assuring the rural listeners on the radios
(06:33):
out around our districts that we knew that they were
there and they were front of mine for us. So
that's where Sundra and I work so closely together, because
at the heart of all of this are the families
that live on the land, have their businesses on their
land and support one another, true good and bad.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, I just want to reiterate what Sundra said, the
experience that we had during Hale and Gabriel and I
think this is this is one of the things that
we've talked to our members around the country on the
Emergency Management Review is that the primary sector doesn't have
a voice around those tables. And Sandra in there banging
drums at the time when we were actually cut off
(07:16):
and had damaged was hugely important. So if we have
somebody around that table, it's going to enable our primary sector,
our farmers, to actually be represented. So that's where we're
coming from when we're talking about this Emergency Management Review.
So hugely important and so and I will say Sandra
was the first person to drive up my driveway the
crazy woman drove through floodwaters and I burst into tears
(07:37):
when I saw her. And that was that was not
long after the storms went through. So yeah, very thankful
that we have people like Sandra and other people in
this region and right down Hooks Bay's coast that have
done these things and have you know, continued to advocate
to get these changes.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Okay, to cut you so off, away you go. Final
final words, Sandra.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
For the final word probably is an acknowledgment of our
current rural MPs, irrespective and remembering that emergency management must
be bipartisan.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
We can't have politics and emergency management. So I just
really wanted to have a bit of a shout out
to rural MPs up and down the links of the
country who have taken up the fight for us as well.
So thanks to their men, Mark Mitcho and his team.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
All Right, I'm going to cut you off. I'm running
out of room. That's Faulkner and Matthews. I don't know
whether to call you Sandra or Sandra. I might just
call you the two Sandy's from Gussie. You sound like
something out of Greece the movie Gotta Go See You Later.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Changeable to
It's been like herding cats trying to get this panel together,
but I've eventually got them. The two Sandra's from Guzzy,
Sandra Matthews, head of Rural Women in z And Sandra Faulkner,
who's federated Farmer's Adverse Events spokesperson. Let's start with weather
and track conditions. Where you both come from, Poverty Bay,
East Coast. Pretty good season, I understand. I'll start with you.
(00:21):
I'll go alphabetically. I'll go with Faulkner before Matthews. Hello, Sandra,
Hi Jamie.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's great to be talking with you again. We're having
the most fantastic grass growing season up here. It's there's
no other way to describe the aside from bloody, marvelous, frankly,
and it's a rare thing for us off here.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
How far apart do you two guys live.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We're about forty five minutes. Yeah, so I'm south of
Gasban City and Andra's out west.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Okay, Sandra from out west. You sound like something from
outrageous Fortune, don't you take it? Your faring equally well
on your phone?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, Hi Jamie, Yeah we are. We've had a really
good season. One of the lucky ones. I think the
East Coast has deserved a good season for a change,
and lands are just astronomically doing astronomically well. The cattle
are looking great and there's actually grasp so that's good.
And we've got a bit of water. So yeah, absolutely stoked.
If you call me Sandra and Sandra f Sandra, that
(01:19):
will differentiate us, I think because I'm the Aussie and
she's the pee week.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
All right, Sandra and Sandra, I'll never remember that. I'll
go back to I'm just going to call you by
your surnames. I think the Matthews that will be easier. Okay,
you are working with Matthews. This is Federated Farmers working
in with rural women and z regarding your submissions around
(01:43):
natural disasters.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
So the consultation is open at the moment around the
new Civil Defense and Emergency Management legislation. It's something that
the rural community is deeply engaged with because of course,
we all know that when mother Nature throws her toys
quite often it's it's farmers that get out there first,
(02:09):
because you know, for us, recovery starts the morning when
you pull your boots on after an event. There's there's
very little opportunity to have the four hours, you know,
the reduction, the readiness, the response and recovery. We just
we just full on dealing with it and it comes
in form of recovery. So what we've gone out for
(02:31):
and asked for and advocated strongly for is a primary
sector liaison role which sits embedded within the SINE structure.
And it all gets a bit acronymy and I do
apologize for that, but it sits alongside health and safety
and logistics and intelligence and everything else. Because the group
of control is that I talk to up and down
(02:52):
this country really want to know that they have one conjured,
one liaison that speaks to our rural community, these rural
businesses and the organizations that support them.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
In an interview, Okay, rural women, as Sandra Matthews is
celebrating one hundred years not out this year.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
We are and we won't be out for another one
hundred or another two hundred years. Jamie. We've got our
centennial coming up, starting off in July with a wonderful
event over in Taranaki where one of the first meetings was,
and then we have a whole year of celebrations culminating
in a whopping great event event in Wellington in July
twenty twenty six. Very exciting year for real women New
(03:33):
Zealand because.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
There was a tie up with Federated Farmers back in
the day. Wasn't the weon't you the Women's Division of
Federated Farmers? Was that one of your names? Your pre
existing names?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
That was one of them, Jamie, the Women's Division Federated Farmers.
We came out in nineteen twenty five from the Farmers' Union.
So a group of women got together while the memory
at their conference and said, hey, we need to look
at supporting and networking women around the country. So not
long after, one of the women that came together, I
think there were sixteen, came together and one of them
(04:06):
wrote two thousand letters and posts them all around the country.
And that's how Rural Women got started will Women's Division
back then of the Farmer's Union. So it's been a
long journey and we've done some amazing things over the
last hundred years, and we continue to do amazing things today.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Absolutely. Sandra Faulkner with Federated Farmers, Sandra Matthews with Rural Woman.
I just want to finish by asking the pair of you,
you're talking about natural disasters. Of course you had Gabrielle,
which was the mother of all national disasters. And every
time I chat to the pair of you since it happened,
what are we twenty twenty three? That's what two and
a half years ago?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You're something like that? So have you fully recovered on
your farm? I'll stay with you, Sandra Matthews, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
We've just finished the outside of the painting of our
house from all the work that needed to be done
last Thursday. We still have a retaining wall on the
house to be finished off. I'm looking at my office
window and looking at the scars on the hill behind me.
But I will say we have done all our fencing,
we have done all our tracks, our colvert our dams.
(05:11):
Everything on the farm has been repaired. Now Ian's walking
around with a bit of a smile on his face
because we've got grass and water and everything's hunky dor
at the moment. So yeah, it's taken two and a
half years and it's been a long road and it's
been an easy one. There has been some very stressful times,
and thank goodness, Sundra's not very far down the road
because we tend to throw a few expleeders around occasionally
(05:34):
between us. But it's been, like you know, it's been
one of those journeys that we had to go through,
and I'm actually really looking forward to things settling down, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I'll bet you well. Sandra Folk, what about your farm.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Well, we were probably one of the lucky ones and
Gabriel itself, bearing in mind that that whole year it
just rained and rained and rained, and so we sort
of watched the farm dissolve around us later on in
the year, sort of through June July through Gabriel itself.
We didn't get hit as hard as up where Sundra
(06:09):
Matthew's Sunda. So that meant that I was able to
get to town be working alongside the emergency in the
emergency operating center, bringing that local knowledge, bringing that local voice,
and also just assuring the rural listeners on the radios
(06:33):
out around our districts that we knew that they were
there and they were front of mine for us. So
that's where Sundra and I work so closely together, because
at the heart of all of this are the families
that live on the land, have their businesses on their
land and support one another, true good and bad.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, I just want to reiterate what Sundra said, the
experience that we had during Hale and Gabriel and I
think this is this is one of the things that
we've talked to our members around the country on the
Emergency Management Review is that the primary sector doesn't have
a voice around those tables. And Sandra in there banging
drums at the time when we were actually cut off
(07:16):
and had damaged was hugely important. So if we have
somebody around that table, it's going to enable our primary sector,
our farmers, to actually be represented. So that's where we're
coming from when we're talking about this Emergency Management Review.
So hugely important and so and I will say Sandra
was the first person to drive up my driveway the
crazy woman drove through floodwaters and I burst into tears
(07:37):
when I saw her. And that was that was not
long after the storms went through. So yeah, very thankful
that we have people like Sandra and other people in
this region and right down Hooks Bay's coast that have
done these things and have you know, continued to advocate
to get these changes.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Okay, to cut you so off, away you go. Final
final words, Sandra.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
For the final word probably is an acknowledgment of our
current rural MPs, irrespective and remembering that emergency management must
be bipartisan.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
We can't have politics and emergency management. So I just
really wanted to have a bit of a shout out
to rural MPs up and down the links of the
country who have taken up the fight for us as well.
So thanks to their men, Mark Mitcho and his team.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
All Right, I'm going to cut you off. I'm running
out of room. That's Faulkner and Matthews. I don't know
whether to call you Sandra or Sandra. I might just
call you the two Sandy's from Gussie. You sound like
something out of Greece the movie Gotta Go See You Later.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Changeable to
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