June 18, 2024 • 6 mins
In the absence of Acting PM Winston Peters, we talk to the Prince of the Provinces about former PM Dame Jacinda Ardern's new political venture, climate change, the previous government's trade trip, and greyhound racing.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Winston Peter's acting Prime Minister, was supposedly going to kick
off the show today, but he's busy running the country.
So we're getting the next best thing, the Prince of
the Provinces, Shane Jones. And Shane, you're going to have
to answer all my Winston Peter's questions, and the first
one I had for him was, are you going to
sign up to justind this new political venture. She's going
(00:20):
to work with political leaders on a twelve month program
and teach them how to lead with kindness and empathy.
And I think there's a few frogs around the country
and lizards who think you should sign up for.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
This ooh.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Love to a Shane Jurns and kites not going to
tolerate ever any of that jwey Il Panglussium naivety. We're
confronted in New Zealand with the costs of that juvenile approach,
believing that you've got to smile and carresh your way
into wealth. We've got very hard trade off decisions to make,
(00:56):
irrespective of what part of the economy that you look at.
So the George so Ross and other investors that are
supporting that initiative, I'll leave. I'll leave the value judgments
up to them, but it'll be a long day in
hell before I'm joining the Dewey I pearl clutching group.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You're so better a cynicle. Look, it would teach you, Shane,
to speak to people with hope and optimism rather than
fair or blame. And it teaches you, Shane to unite
rather than divide.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, key easily as you well know.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Great listeners to your program. They can make me pall
as to how divided we were in what sort of
social cohesion there's left under the code experience? But look
up all about the future. Justson has left her her
results here in New Zealand and she's over there. I
guess emotionally colonizing another part of the world. And the
(01:54):
less I encounter it the better.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Okay, it's scrutiny week this week in Parliament. I guess
of all the ministers, you might be under as much
scrutiny as anyone else.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Well, look, there are these ill found, cruel allegations that
are made to be that I'm loose with the check
talk and I'm loose with government policy because I want
to grow the regions. I want a minor way.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I don't want climate alarmism overwhelming or undermining economic growth.
There's far too many people that have swallowed the call
aid and have turned themselves into sort of religious phonetics
over climate change. We've got to learn to live with
and adapt with volatile weather, and sure the nature of
(02:39):
our existence is going to change. But you really think
by culling every cow, stopping every factory in New Zealand,
I'm not interested in that from pointstone type of economics
that comes from the Green Party.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Are you interested in mitigation at all? Or are you
all about adaptation.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I've always campaigned on adaptation. You tell me what can
I come?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
We do?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Five million of us maybe four hundred billion is the
size of our economy. The first thing is we must
secure the confidence. We must secure the lifestyle capacity of
New Zealanders to continue to subsist, exist and eventually profit
(03:21):
in our own country before we pursue uncosted wild schemes
such as inverting our energy system for mitigation purposes, thus
leaving us dependent on Indonesian coal. I don't need to
tell a Kiwi one single thing other than the fact
that Jacinda in them gave up the gas industry and
(03:41):
now reduced to importing Indonesian coal.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Did labor when it was in power and you were
part of this, Did they take C listers on their
trade trip? That is the claim or accusation being made
by our Prime minister who's currently on a trade trip
in Japan.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Ah okay. I never went on any of those trade trists.
But look, there's always if you're taking an emerging part
of the economy, then they're never going to be quite
as famous as, for example, the leaders of Fonterra. Although
I've got it to you the thought that we may
still be regarding the Dutchman whose leadership of Fonterra, in
(04:23):
my views disastrous, as he should be on the X list,
not the A list.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Absolutely, we're talking about Tao Speerings here, the eight million
dollar manager. He was a disaster for Fonterra. But Fonterra's
leadership they've turned the good ship Fonterra around. And I
agree with you. It's good to get the head Honchows
from Fonterra, Zespri, Silver, Fern Farms, you name it. Our
our big companies over there. Can I ask you, because
(04:49):
I was going to ask this of Winston about Greyhound racing.
Does the industry have a future? Winston claims that dogs
love racing, and he says to prove it, he said,
just watch them in the while. Admittedly I've never seen
a greyhound in the wild. But what do you reckon?
Should we ban the industry?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Well, yeah's brother in law, My brother in law, he's
got greyhounds in Australia. They have a great time with them.
And look where there are a few stray two living
dogs not looking after the animals properly, pingum. But there's
so many things in New Zealand that are part of
our foundational upbringing sort of background, and horse racing and
(05:30):
dog racing and shooting ducks and shooting pheasants and getting
rid of swans and obviously having a balance between. I
think we should go ahead sooner rather than later with
exporting animals and have a few rams.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Die on the way.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
That's just part of that's just part of life. I mean,
we can't preserve every single creature in the pursuit of
fiscal solvency. Get real, Oh your.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Death wishless has expanded from frogs to shape now.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well I'm I'm I'm probably of that school of thought
that after fish my best type of protein with his
lamb and sheep, and Dad taught us all how to,
I won't get too graphic, how you deal to the
sheep and you dress it and take it to the
mary and also pete them. And you know, I'm of
that generation where we used to yeah, not disembow, but
(06:22):
knackerries the family farm animals ourselves.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yes, well, I'm of that generation as well. That's an
experience we can share together, perhaps our air shane, because
we might upset a few people. Look, thank you very
much for filling in for Winston Peters on the country today,
and we'll leave him to run the country in the
absence of Christopher lux and chairs.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You're a fine
Winston Peter's acting Prime Minister, was supposedly going to kick
off the show today, but he's busy running the country.
So we're getting the next best thing, the Prince of
the Provinces, Shane Jones. And Shane, you're going to have
to answer all my Winston Peter's questions, and the first
one I had for him was, are you going to
sign up to justind this new political venture. She's going
(00:20):
to work with political leaders on a twelve month program
and teach them how to lead with kindness and empathy.
And I think there's a few frogs around the country
and lizards who think you should sign up for.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
This ooh.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Love to a Shane Jurns and kites not going to
tolerate ever any of that jwey Il Panglussium naivety. We're
confronted in New Zealand with the costs of that juvenile approach,
believing that you've got to smile and carresh your way
into wealth. We've got very hard trade off decisions to make,
(00:56):
irrespective of what part of the economy that you look at.
So the George so Ross and other investors that are
supporting that initiative, I'll leave. I'll leave the value judgments
up to them, but it'll be a long day in
hell before I'm joining the Dewey I pearl clutching group.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You're so better a cynicle. Look, it would teach you, Shane,
to speak to people with hope and optimism rather than
fair or blame. And it teaches you, Shane to unite
rather than divide.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, key easily as you well know.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Great listeners to your program. They can make me pall
as to how divided we were in what sort of
social cohesion there's left under the code experience? But look
up all about the future. Justson has left her her
results here in New Zealand and she's over there. I
guess emotionally colonizing another part of the world. And the
(01:54):
less I encounter it the better.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Okay, it's scrutiny week this week in Parliament. I guess
of all the ministers, you might be under as much
scrutiny as anyone else.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Well, look, there are these ill found, cruel allegations that
are made to be that I'm loose with the check
talk and I'm loose with government policy because I want
to grow the regions. I want a minor way.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I don't want climate alarmism overwhelming or undermining economic growth.
There's far too many people that have swallowed the call
aid and have turned themselves into sort of religious phonetics
over climate change. We've got to learn to live with
and adapt with volatile weather, and sure the nature of
(02:39):
our existence is going to change. But you really think
by culling every cow, stopping every factory in New Zealand,
I'm not interested in that from pointstone type of economics
that comes from the Green Party.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Are you interested in mitigation at all? Or are you
all about adaptation.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I've always campaigned on adaptation. You tell me what can
I come?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
We do?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Five million of us maybe four hundred billion is the
size of our economy. The first thing is we must
secure the confidence. We must secure the lifestyle capacity of
New Zealanders to continue to subsist, exist and eventually profit
(03:21):
in our own country before we pursue uncosted wild schemes
such as inverting our energy system for mitigation purposes, thus
leaving us dependent on Indonesian coal. I don't need to
tell a Kiwi one single thing other than the fact
that Jacinda in them gave up the gas industry and
(03:41):
now reduced to importing Indonesian coal.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Did labor when it was in power and you were
part of this, Did they take C listers on their
trade trip? That is the claim or accusation being made
by our Prime minister who's currently on a trade trip
in Japan.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Ah okay. I never went on any of those trade trists.
But look, there's always if you're taking an emerging part
of the economy, then they're never going to be quite
as famous as, for example, the leaders of Fonterra. Although
I've got it to you the thought that we may
still be regarding the Dutchman whose leadership of Fonterra, in
(04:23):
my views disastrous, as he should be on the X list,
not the A list.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Absolutely, we're talking about Tao Speerings here, the eight million
dollar manager. He was a disaster for Fonterra. But Fonterra's
leadership they've turned the good ship Fonterra around. And I
agree with you. It's good to get the head Honchows
from Fonterra, Zespri, Silver, Fern Farms, you name it. Our
our big companies over there. Can I ask you, because
(04:49):
I was going to ask this of Winston about Greyhound racing.
Does the industry have a future? Winston claims that dogs
love racing, and he says to prove it, he said,
just watch them in the while. Admittedly I've never seen
a greyhound in the wild. But what do you reckon?
Should we ban the industry?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Well, yeah's brother in law, My brother in law, he's
got greyhounds in Australia. They have a great time with them.
And look where there are a few stray two living
dogs not looking after the animals properly, pingum. But there's
so many things in New Zealand that are part of
our foundational upbringing sort of background, and horse racing and
(05:30):
dog racing and shooting ducks and shooting pheasants and getting
rid of swans and obviously having a balance between. I
think we should go ahead sooner rather than later with
exporting animals and have a few rams.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Die on the way.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
That's just part of that's just part of life. I mean,
we can't preserve every single creature in the pursuit of
fiscal solvency. Get real, Oh your.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Death wishless has expanded from frogs to shape now.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Well I'm I'm I'm probably of that school of thought
that after fish my best type of protein with his
lamb and sheep, and Dad taught us all how to,
I won't get too graphic, how you deal to the
sheep and you dress it and take it to the
mary and also pete them. And you know, I'm of
that generation where we used to yeah, not disembow, but
(06:22):
knackerries the family farm animals ourselves.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yes, well, I'm of that generation as well. That's an
experience we can share together, perhaps our air shane, because
we might upset a few people. Look, thank you very
much for filling in for Winston Peters on the country today,
and we'll leave him to run the country in the
absence of Christopher lux and chairs.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You're a fine
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