November 19, 2025 • 6 mins
Our Australian correspondent says it's "name your price" for beef at the moment! Plus we talk about whether net zero by 2050 is a lost cause, the end for John Laws and the beginning of the Ashes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He's our guy across the ditch. His name is Chris Russell,
our Ossie correspondent. Chris. Continuing on with the meat theme,
we've spoken to Dan Bolton on the show today, the
chief executive of silver Fern Farms, our biggest meat exporting company,
and you're kind of reiterating what he's been saying when
it comes to beef at the moment, it's name your
(00:20):
own price.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, well, I think that's what that was the headline
I saw in the paper today is you know, farmers
are going to be naming their own price, particularly for
a process of cows and so on, and it's quite
extraordinary where the prices are going and where they're going
to go. Of course, we've now had the ten percent
(00:41):
tariff which has been cut as I think it has
for New Zealand as well, and you know, I think
that we can really look forward to beef being quite
a commodity in the future. It's just amazing. We're in America.
Of course, people are quite happy to pay high prices
for beef. They can't get enough beef. It's their protein
of choice over there. So you know, at the moment,
(01:04):
some of the South American countries like Argentina and Brazil
have been exempted from that zero tariff policy, so that
also plays in our favor. So we've got so many
stars aligned at the moment. I think everyone's looking forward
to good prices ahead, Jomie.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
One of the really interesting things to come out of
Australia in the past couple of weeks has been the
opposition Coalition Party or the National Party anyhow, you need
to show me up on this one. They defend their
decision to drop net zero by twenty fifty and I
wonder whether this is going to catch on around the world.
Is this an unattainable goal?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, I mean, I think it's probably is undertainable when
you look at the figures for the fact that China
and India actually put on last year more coal fired
stations than in fact the entire gas fired production of
energy for the whole year for the rest of the world.
(02:01):
So you know, I mean, I think we're just such
a drop in the bucket that it is an unattainable goal.
But even putting that to one side, the question is
why did we walk away from it as an example,
even though it's really has inconsequential to the total world situation,
and I think that really the cost in energy prices
to the whole of Australia, which is why I think
(02:22):
Susan lays now come on board as head of the
Liberal Party, you know, has been horrendous. Our energy prices here.
We're the richest energy rich country, one of the richest
in the world. I think America is richer, but that's
the only one. And yet you know, we're sitting there
paying the most for our energy and exporting ilac coal
to China and India where they're producing cheap energy and
(02:43):
competing with their goods back in Australia. Again, the whole
thing is so ludicrous and in terms of its actual
effect on emissions it's pretty much you can say zero.
And yet we're being the light of the world in
this regard. So both parties have said, look, both opposition
parties have said, look, we're not We're not going to
(03:04):
do this. Who other side story, Jamie, is that the CSIRO,
which you equidllal on your DSR DSIR, has just had
jobs cut by three hundred and fifty researchers, which is
a catastrophe really for core research here. And that's all
in the interests of saving money, and yet the Prime
Minister's trying to spend two billion dollars on having the
(03:26):
next COP thirty I think it's the COP thirty two
conference here in Australia, which is going to cost us
about two billion dollars to do, and people are saying,
we've just got our priorities all up the creek. You know,
the savings in money from the CSIRO is a fraction
of two billion dollars, and yet he rates that more
importantly than creating our brights and best scientists to create
(03:49):
new ideas like the web and all sorts of things
that we've invented over the years. I think that this
is a bit out of control now, notat it's a
fantastic the idea, but is it too idealistic? And can
we afford it?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Jamie, Well, those COP conferences are just a high carbon
footprint gas bagging session. If you asked me, flying fifty
or sixty thousand people to somewhere in the world to
solve climate change ain't really solving anything. But don't start
me on that one. The death of John Laws, one
of your most famed broadcasters. He was quite a big deal,
(04:24):
wasn't he a.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
He was a massive deal and we had a huge
state funeral in Sydney yesday. My goodness, I haven't seen
a big funeral like that for a long time. But
you know, everybody who was anybody there, I must say,
with the exception of Alan Jones didn't turn up, but
I think he maybe just didn't want to take the
glass off the funeral because he was clearly a colleague.
(04:45):
But the big players were all there, you know, Russell
Crowe was there, the heads of our biggest and brightest
companies were there. Many of the prime ministers still alive today,
of course, were still here. I think he interviewed seventeen
Prime ministers over So it was a massive funeral and
held in Saint Andrew's Cathedral. He was a much respected guy.
(05:07):
I don't think he was particularly religious, but it was
a big church funeral and he was such a big player.
He was someone who could ask all the hard questions
but at the same time had massive respect and used
his wealth to bring massive good to so many different people.
So a fitting farewell, and I think a lot of
legacy will be left by John Laws to take us
(05:30):
into the future.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Jamie and just quickly to finish on the Eshes get
under way tomorrow. How exciting. Normally kick off in Brisbane,
but it's Perth this time round. Are you going to
the Sydney Test in the new year.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I'm hoping I'll get to the Sydney Test. I've got
a couple of mates who've got access to corporate boxes
and if I can be there by hawk By Krook,
I'll be there. It's always a fantastic event. But look,
the series is going to be great. Of course, the
record is very much in Australia's favor and there's pages
and pages of analysis this morning talking about how many
meters you bowl down pitch differently in Australia than England
(06:04):
and so on. But at the end of the day,
it's all going to be how people feel on the day.
It's going to be a reduced bowling lineup with Pat
Cummins and also with Hazelwood out from injury, but so
it's going to be led by Scott Boland, he's a
fantastic bowler and some new Sheffield Chill bowlers who we
haven't seen before. So I think our bowling lineup is amazing.
(06:24):
It'll be a great series. English a confident even though
five of them have only played here before. But nonetheless,
I think I would predict that we will win it,
and I hope we will win it.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Well, Jamie Chris Russell ketch you again, same time, same place,
next week.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
No worries, mate,
He's our guy across the ditch. His name is Chris Russell,
our Ossie correspondent. Chris. Continuing on with the meat theme,
we've spoken to Dan Bolton on the show today, the
chief executive of silver Fern Farms, our biggest meat exporting company,
and you're kind of reiterating what he's been saying when
it comes to beef at the moment, it's name your
(00:20):
own price.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, well, I think that's what that was the headline
I saw in the paper today is you know, farmers
are going to be naming their own price, particularly for
a process of cows and so on, and it's quite
extraordinary where the prices are going and where they're going
to go. Of course, we've now had the ten percent
(00:41):
tariff which has been cut as I think it has
for New Zealand as well, and you know, I think
that we can really look forward to beef being quite
a commodity in the future. It's just amazing. We're in America.
Of course, people are quite happy to pay high prices
for beef. They can't get enough beef. It's their protein
of choice over there. So you know, at the moment,
(01:04):
some of the South American countries like Argentina and Brazil
have been exempted from that zero tariff policy, so that
also plays in our favor. So we've got so many
stars aligned at the moment. I think everyone's looking forward
to good prices ahead, Jomie.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
One of the really interesting things to come out of
Australia in the past couple of weeks has been the
opposition Coalition Party or the National Party anyhow, you need
to show me up on this one. They defend their
decision to drop net zero by twenty fifty and I
wonder whether this is going to catch on around the world.
Is this an unattainable goal?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, I mean, I think it's probably is undertainable when
you look at the figures for the fact that China
and India actually put on last year more coal fired
stations than in fact the entire gas fired production of
energy for the whole year for the rest of the world.
(02:01):
So you know, I mean, I think we're just such
a drop in the bucket that it is an unattainable goal.
But even putting that to one side, the question is
why did we walk away from it as an example,
even though it's really has inconsequential to the total world situation,
and I think that really the cost in energy prices
to the whole of Australia, which is why I think
(02:22):
Susan lays now come on board as head of the
Liberal Party, you know, has been horrendous. Our energy prices here.
We're the richest energy rich country, one of the richest
in the world. I think America is richer, but that's
the only one. And yet you know, we're sitting there
paying the most for our energy and exporting ilac coal
to China and India where they're producing cheap energy and
(02:43):
competing with their goods back in Australia. Again, the whole
thing is so ludicrous and in terms of its actual
effect on emissions it's pretty much you can say zero.
And yet we're being the light of the world in
this regard. So both parties have said, look, both opposition
parties have said, look, we're not We're not going to
(03:04):
do this. Who other side story, Jamie, is that the CSIRO,
which you equidllal on your DSR DSIR, has just had
jobs cut by three hundred and fifty researchers, which is
a catastrophe really for core research here. And that's all
in the interests of saving money, and yet the Prime
Minister's trying to spend two billion dollars on having the
(03:26):
next COP thirty I think it's the COP thirty two
conference here in Australia, which is going to cost us
about two billion dollars to do, and people are saying,
we've just got our priorities all up the creek. You know,
the savings in money from the CSIRO is a fraction
of two billion dollars, and yet he rates that more
importantly than creating our brights and best scientists to create
(03:49):
new ideas like the web and all sorts of things
that we've invented over the years. I think that this
is a bit out of control now, notat it's a
fantastic the idea, but is it too idealistic? And can
we afford it?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Jamie, Well, those COP conferences are just a high carbon
footprint gas bagging session. If you asked me, flying fifty
or sixty thousand people to somewhere in the world to
solve climate change ain't really solving anything. But don't start
me on that one. The death of John Laws, one
of your most famed broadcasters. He was quite a big deal,
(04:24):
wasn't he a.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
He was a massive deal and we had a huge
state funeral in Sydney yesday. My goodness, I haven't seen
a big funeral like that for a long time. But
you know, everybody who was anybody there, I must say,
with the exception of Alan Jones didn't turn up, but
I think he maybe just didn't want to take the
glass off the funeral because he was clearly a colleague.
(04:45):
But the big players were all there, you know, Russell
Crowe was there, the heads of our biggest and brightest
companies were there. Many of the prime ministers still alive today,
of course, were still here. I think he interviewed seventeen
Prime ministers over So it was a massive funeral and
held in Saint Andrew's Cathedral. He was a much respected guy.
(05:07):
I don't think he was particularly religious, but it was
a big church funeral and he was such a big player.
He was someone who could ask all the hard questions
but at the same time had massive respect and used
his wealth to bring massive good to so many different people.
So a fitting farewell, and I think a lot of
legacy will be left by John Laws to take us
(05:30):
into the future.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Jamie and just quickly to finish on the Eshes get
under way tomorrow. How exciting. Normally kick off in Brisbane,
but it's Perth this time round. Are you going to
the Sydney Test in the new year.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I'm hoping I'll get to the Sydney Test. I've got
a couple of mates who've got access to corporate boxes
and if I can be there by hawk By Krook,
I'll be there. It's always a fantastic event. But look,
the series is going to be great. Of course, the
record is very much in Australia's favor and there's pages
and pages of analysis this morning talking about how many
meters you bowl down pitch differently in Australia than England
(06:04):
and so on. But at the end of the day,
it's all going to be how people feel on the day.
It's going to be a reduced bowling lineup with Pat
Cummins and also with Hazelwood out from injury, but so
it's going to be led by Scott Boland, he's a
fantastic bowler and some new Sheffield Chill bowlers who we
haven't seen before. So I think our bowling lineup is amazing.
(06:24):
It'll be a great series. English a confident even though
five of them have only played here before. But nonetheless,
I think I would predict that we will win it,
and I hope we will win it.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Well, Jamie Chris Russell ketch you again, same time, same place,
next week.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
No worries, mate,
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