November 20, 2025 • 7 mins
Matua Shane, the Prince of the Provinces, dismisses David Seymour's claims that NZ First is "getting ready to go with Labour again". Plus he has Sam Neill, James Cameron, Debbie and Rawiri, and the "demonic eggbeater" Chloe squarely in his sights!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jane Jones is the Prince of the province, is the
self titled Martella Shane. But here's a question for your Shane.
Are you and Winston getting ready to go with Labor?
According to David Cymore, you are.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Oh. Look, this is one of David's and passioned outbursts.
There's some ongoing debate as to the real value of
the regulatory legislation that he's brought. And look, he's very
proud of the legislation, but we need to make sure
that we have a manifesto next time around that speaks
to the issues. But no, there's no agenda to breathe
(00:34):
life into the old relationship with Sindor or inheritors at all.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Monjie Winston has said he's never going to go with
Chris Hepkins, he Backstabbdham and all that sort of stuff.
But if there was a change in Labor leadership, and
they're obviously probably won't be before the election, he technically
could change his mind and cover his backside.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You South Islanders have got to spend less time in
the back panic imagining all these stray eerie premonition, little
false realities. Park it up, park it up. We know
exactly what we're doing, and Li has said that we're
not joining with them again once bit and twice shy,
(01:13):
And I'm no wicko who puts his head back in
the noose a second time.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Winston did say when he was speaking to mister Hoskins,
that's Mike this morning, that it wasn't a bottom line
for him. It is a bottom line for David Seymour. So,
taking you at your word, I expect you to give
ground on that one and coalition negotiations if you indeed
get the Treasury benches back. Now. I must congratulate you,
Shane Jones on some of your rhetoric around the Greens.
(01:38):
It always amuses me. You've labeled the Greens idea about
mining as ideological compost and a foolish belief that somehow
prosperity comes from a community garden, beautiful work.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You know as well as I do that the Green
recipe is economic treason. You know that.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Well, yes I do. But I'm hoping for some more
rhetoric from you for all my listener.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
No, no, no, no, no, look look, look, the bottom
line is that every time Chloe stands up in Parliament,
she's like some sort of demonic egg beater, all full
of rhetoric, all full of slogans designed to scare away investment,
destroy the god fearing ability of Kiwi's, of Aussie's, of
(02:27):
international investors to reinvigorate our mining. I've got every right
to call her out, I mean these ecomaniacs. Also, what
about what about them over in Brazil full of hot
air trying to denounce New Zealand for bringing some common sense,
some pragmatism and standing up for the cow owners and
the farmers of New Zealand. Mate, the South Island should
(02:49):
be on top of every steeple, every hill, on the
side of every white beat, stand and clapping and applauding me.
At least I put it out there and tell Chloe
and Labor and anyone else else who stands in the
way of economic prosperity meet me at the ballot box,
and I believe I've got cues on my site.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
You've also picked a fight with Sam Neil gets dangerous
to pick fights with popular celebrities. Shane Jones.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, I've no doubt in my mind that whilst Sam
is a beloved character, the people who vote for me
are the mums and dads who want their children to
have a future in New Zealand. Just last night at
the Carrigiery Hotel, there are a whole lot of young
men and women saying they're packing up and going to Wazzi.
Why because they see at the moment better opportunities to
(03:38):
fly in and fly out and working in their mining sector.
I want to recreate. I want to develop that option
for them here in New Zealand. Now, look, I know
Sam and his cohort maybe a bit upset with me,
but look if Sam gets too frisky with me as
you go back to Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well that Sam sorted out the most annoying one act
as celebrity me, Hollywood heavyweight, whatever you want to call him.
As James Cameron, that well known Wira Rappa farmer who
jets in and out of Los Angeles by private jet,
and I'll forget about that carbon footprint. But then he's
telling us how to live and even worse, telling us
out of farm.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
James Cameron asserted that in those bleak days of Jacinda
Aduran that the future was synthetic beef. He can take
his synthetic beliefs, he can take his anti Kiwi attitudes,
and put them where the sun doesn't shine. He has
no business as an American moving to New Zealand taking
(04:38):
for granted all of the liberties, the rights, and the
heritage of us Kiwis. And it comes off the back
of the farm, not only denouncing but undermining the traditions
that have made places like Northland and White of Upper
Key legacy destinations in the nation of our in the
history of our nation.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Just to finish on you and I are both keen
observers of American politics, what did you make And I
know You've got to be careful because you're a government minister,
but what did you make of Trump's decision to drop
tariffs in our case on beef and key. We for
it good news for us, but I mean he flip
flops daily. That bloke.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well Winston told us all along that what happens on
a Monday may not be the case on a Friday.
And the fair cop to good marks for Todd McLay.
Todd said when these decisions were announced, and I hope
the Colock is down the line accept this, that he
would not give up. He'd continue to advocate and point
(05:37):
out that we're not a threat to America's economic viability.
We're actually a positive contributor. And I think that Winston
and Todd had it right. Don't go out there with
neon lights trying to pick a scrap. Just quietly move
away and let the move on and let the facts
speak speak into that political echo chamber. And they've kicked
(05:58):
a goal.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
So you've got good people like Todd maclay who's doing
a great job in trade. I mean, how could you
swap that for Raweri and Debbie?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Come on, Shane, Well, Lawidi and Debbie, as I've said,
are akin to the law soon becoming extinct. They will
never be seen again after the next election. I said,
in Parliament it's in the Bible. The House that it's
divided amongst itself, it perishes and collapses. They have basically
(06:28):
dashed the hopes of the Farno and the households that
sent them to Parliament. They're wasting our time and money.
And look they turn up with all of these strange
feathers and colors and sort of crazy rhetoric, and people
have moved away from them. They are never ever going
to be in cabinet. And the short time they've blighted
(06:50):
New Zealand politics was thankfully coming to an end.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, and some of that traditional mari garb as well,
like that the cowboy had.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, well, I'm really disappointed that he's bought a fine
tradition into disrepute. It was Dover who started wearing a hat,
and of course it already says, oh will I wear it?
Because Cowboys was the nickname for the married battalion from
the East Coast. Don't exploit, don't weaponize a proud tradition
of New Zealand history just so you can cover your foolish,
(07:21):
toxic ideology.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Shane Jones, are you never disappoint Thanks for your time
today on the country.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Appreciate it, Demonic egg beater, See you later.
Jane Jones is the Prince of the province, is the
self titled Martella Shane. But here's a question for your Shane.
Are you and Winston getting ready to go with Labor?
According to David Cymore, you are.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Oh. Look, this is one of David's and passioned outbursts.
There's some ongoing debate as to the real value of
the regulatory legislation that he's brought. And look, he's very
proud of the legislation, but we need to make sure
that we have a manifesto next time around that speaks
to the issues. But no, there's no agenda to breathe
(00:34):
life into the old relationship with Sindor or inheritors at all.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Monjie Winston has said he's never going to go with
Chris Hepkins, he Backstabbdham and all that sort of stuff.
But if there was a change in Labor leadership, and
they're obviously probably won't be before the election, he technically
could change his mind and cover his backside.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You South Islanders have got to spend less time in
the back panic imagining all these stray eerie premonition, little
false realities. Park it up, park it up. We know
exactly what we're doing, and Li has said that we're
not joining with them again once bit and twice shy,
(01:13):
And I'm no wicko who puts his head back in
the noose a second time.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Winston did say when he was speaking to mister Hoskins,
that's Mike this morning, that it wasn't a bottom line
for him. It is a bottom line for David Seymour. So,
taking you at your word, I expect you to give
ground on that one and coalition negotiations if you indeed
get the Treasury benches back. Now. I must congratulate you,
Shane Jones on some of your rhetoric around the Greens.
(01:38):
It always amuses me. You've labeled the Greens idea about
mining as ideological compost and a foolish belief that somehow
prosperity comes from a community garden, beautiful work.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You know as well as I do that the Green
recipe is economic treason. You know that.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Well, yes I do. But I'm hoping for some more
rhetoric from you for all my listener.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
No, no, no, no, no, look look, look, the bottom
line is that every time Chloe stands up in Parliament,
she's like some sort of demonic egg beater, all full
of rhetoric, all full of slogans designed to scare away investment,
destroy the god fearing ability of Kiwi's, of Aussie's, of
(02:27):
international investors to reinvigorate our mining. I've got every right
to call her out, I mean these ecomaniacs. Also, what
about what about them over in Brazil full of hot
air trying to denounce New Zealand for bringing some common sense,
some pragmatism and standing up for the cow owners and
the farmers of New Zealand. Mate, the South Island should
(02:49):
be on top of every steeple, every hill, on the
side of every white beat, stand and clapping and applauding me.
At least I put it out there and tell Chloe
and Labor and anyone else else who stands in the
way of economic prosperity meet me at the ballot box,
and I believe I've got cues on my site.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
You've also picked a fight with Sam Neil gets dangerous
to pick fights with popular celebrities. Shane Jones.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, I've no doubt in my mind that whilst Sam
is a beloved character, the people who vote for me
are the mums and dads who want their children to
have a future in New Zealand. Just last night at
the Carrigiery Hotel, there are a whole lot of young
men and women saying they're packing up and going to Wazzi.
Why because they see at the moment better opportunities to
(03:38):
fly in and fly out and working in their mining sector.
I want to recreate. I want to develop that option
for them here in New Zealand. Now, look, I know
Sam and his cohort maybe a bit upset with me,
but look if Sam gets too frisky with me as
you go back to Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well that Sam sorted out the most annoying one act
as celebrity me, Hollywood heavyweight, whatever you want to call him.
As James Cameron, that well known Wira Rappa farmer who
jets in and out of Los Angeles by private jet,
and I'll forget about that carbon footprint. But then he's
telling us how to live and even worse, telling us
out of farm.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
James Cameron asserted that in those bleak days of Jacinda
Aduran that the future was synthetic beef. He can take
his synthetic beliefs, he can take his anti Kiwi attitudes,
and put them where the sun doesn't shine. He has
no business as an American moving to New Zealand taking
(04:38):
for granted all of the liberties, the rights, and the
heritage of us Kiwis. And it comes off the back
of the farm, not only denouncing but undermining the traditions
that have made places like Northland and White of Upper
Key legacy destinations in the nation of our in the
history of our nation.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Just to finish on you and I are both keen
observers of American politics, what did you make And I
know You've got to be careful because you're a government minister,
but what did you make of Trump's decision to drop
tariffs in our case on beef and key. We for
it good news for us, but I mean he flip
flops daily. That bloke.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well Winston told us all along that what happens on
a Monday may not be the case on a Friday.
And the fair cop to good marks for Todd McLay.
Todd said when these decisions were announced, and I hope
the Colock is down the line accept this, that he
would not give up. He'd continue to advocate and point
(05:37):
out that we're not a threat to America's economic viability.
We're actually a positive contributor. And I think that Winston
and Todd had it right. Don't go out there with
neon lights trying to pick a scrap. Just quietly move
away and let the move on and let the facts
speak speak into that political echo chamber. And they've kicked
(05:58):
a goal.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
So you've got good people like Todd maclay who's doing
a great job in trade. I mean, how could you
swap that for Raweri and Debbie?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Come on, Shane, Well, Lawidi and Debbie, as I've said,
are akin to the law soon becoming extinct. They will
never be seen again after the next election. I said,
in Parliament it's in the Bible. The House that it's
divided amongst itself, it perishes and collapses. They have basically
(06:28):
dashed the hopes of the Farno and the households that
sent them to Parliament. They're wasting our time and money.
And look they turn up with all of these strange
feathers and colors and sort of crazy rhetoric, and people
have moved away from them. They are never ever going
to be in cabinet. And the short time they've blighted
(06:50):
New Zealand politics was thankfully coming to an end.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, and some of that traditional mari garb as well,
like that the cowboy had.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, well, I'm really disappointed that he's bought a fine
tradition into disrepute. It was Dover who started wearing a hat,
and of course it already says, oh will I wear it?
Because Cowboys was the nickname for the married battalion from
the East Coast. Don't exploit, don't weaponize a proud tradition
of New Zealand history just so you can cover your foolish,
(07:21):
toxic ideology.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Shane Jones, are you never disappoint Thanks for your time
today on the country.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Appreciate it, Demonic egg beater, See you later.
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