July 24, 2025 • 6 mins
We welcome our long-standing political correspondent back from paternal leave. A week dominated by butter-gate as Nicola and Maiki make a meal of it. Plus, we go back in time to 2004 and a long lunch with Winston, followed by the Southland Party at the Beehive.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Great to welcome this man back to the country. Our
long standing political correspondent. He's been away on parentally for
three months. A Barry Soper. I was once a house
husband for a couple of years. Toughest work of my life.
I was hopeless at it. But I hear that you're
a dab hand at being a house husband.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I really love it. I did it with Iggy and
now with little Mackay, and she's an absolute darling and
so easy to look after him. I'd suggest that any
man Jamie that has young children, if they can do it,
then they should do it because the rewards are amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Well Barry, this weekend Heather, Heather Duplessy l and your
better half has let you off the chain because you're
going down to Wellington for the Southland Party. I've only
been there once and that was in the year two
thousand and four. And you might remember this, Barry. We
did a broadcast from the debating Chamber just before I
went nationwide on z B provincials, and there was me, you,
(01:01):
Winston Peters, Brendan O'Donovan, chief economist of the Westpac Bank
in those days. Don Carson, long standing correspondent to this
show and the late Tony Saint Clair, who was then
the Federated Farmer's Chief executive. So we did the broadcast.
I shouted lunch. The lunch went from one o'clock till
about six thirty. Winston kept canceling his plane back to
(01:22):
Towong You and I trotted off to the Southland party.
Winston was nowhere to be seen, but was spotted later
in Bellamies.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Those were the days, although most certainly were the days
of the long lunch. Jamie, there's no way you could
get away with that today, but yeah, that was very
early on in the Southland parties existence.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It was myself that actually started. Those parties were bad.
Up to four hundred expat Southlanders attend the parties in Wellington,
so tonight should be a good shindy, do you know?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I remember most about the six hour lunch were two
things really. One Winston arguing endlessly with Brendan O'Donovan about
how he could lower the exchange rate, and Brendan said
it's not quite that easy. I was on Brendan's side
on that one. But when we walked into that Flash
restaurant by the dock side, well, the dock side yes,
it was the dock side. So we walk in there.
(02:15):
I've got the table booking. You guys are standing behind me.
I say, I've got a table for six for Mackay.
She says, oh okay, yeah, okay, and then she looks
over my shoulder and she says, oh, wait a moment, Sir,
as mister Peters dining with you. And I said, yes,
yes he is. So she scuttled off, got these people
who were dining, moved them off their table so we
(02:36):
could get the best table in the house.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's outrageous. I wouldn't have I would not have taken
the table had I known.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Jamie, Well, you were happy enough back in two thousand
and four, Barracks. Okay, let's talk about Winston. Back in
two thousand and four, we all called our country New Zealand.
Some of us don't anymore. And Winston doesn't like that.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Oh it's incredible that old Winston. He hates people referring
to this country as art rare and he moved to
motion to that effect when Parliament started yesterday and they
got slapped down. I've got to say by the Speaker
Jerry Browne, who reminded Winston that he travels with a
passport all over the world on many occasions and presents
(03:17):
it and hasn't complained about the passport's cover. And of
course the first words on that are at Rah and
then New Zealand sort of comes sick and well that's
going to change. Apparently. We hear today that Brook van
Valden are from actors going to acquire the English version
to go first, followed by the Maldi version. But the
fact is Jamie with a Winston likes that are not
(03:39):
We've got three official languages in New Zealand, English, Maldi
and sign language. So you know, I don't know how
you get away with passport with sign language on it.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
But anyway, well Winston doesn't like that name. Chris Luxon
or Christopher to be more correct, as Boss was calling
names this week, channeling as I said to him on
Wednesday show His Best Doctor Evil when he referred to
Chris Hopkins as freaking freaking Chris Hipkins. No one does that,
Barry Well, nobody.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
In New Zealand uses that particular word, and we know
what it means. But clearly Chris Luxon, being a good
faithful man in terms of religion, has decided that it's
a word that shouldn't be used, so he prefers frickin'. Well,
nobody in New Zealand says, we all know what it means.
(04:31):
So yeah, so yeah, Chris Hipkins. I talked to him yesterday.
I saw him in the office and he was pretty
relaxed about it. And no doubt we'll get called it
much more often the time.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, I reckon Luxeon would have got more mileage if
he dropped the F bomb.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
He's one of us, Jamie. That's what people would probably say.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Young, Okay, let's just finish on. They're calling at Buttergate.
But basically Nikola and Mikey sh goodness to me have
made an absolute meal out of Buttergate.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, well, you know, unfortunately, I've found the badgering of
Miles Hurrel, the chief executive of fon Terra, following him
down the street like a criminal, firing questions at him.
And then yesterday, to top it all off, a journalist
in christ Church asking him what was he paid. Well,
it's got nothing to do with her. What he's paid
(05:27):
is a very successful chief executive for fon Terra. But
not only that, it's that following on the street and
you know it was a miss call by Nichola Willis
to even give out a suggestion, although she didn't say it,
that she could in some way reduce the price of
butter by me meeting with Fonterra. Well that's not going
to happen, but I'll tell you what, Jamie. But in
(05:49):
the next fortnight expect a big announcement on supermarkets.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well there you go, maybe Nichola might actually achieve something.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I think that's probably on the cars up.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Well, you enjoy the Southland party tonight and remember the
remember the old adage Barry, nothing good happens after midnight.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Absolutely, jam I'll be touched up while I'm truly in
bed by them.
Great to welcome this man back to the country. Our
long standing political correspondent. He's been away on parentally for
three months. A Barry Soper. I was once a house
husband for a couple of years. Toughest work of my life.
I was hopeless at it. But I hear that you're
a dab hand at being a house husband.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I really love it. I did it with Iggy and
now with little Mackay, and she's an absolute darling and
so easy to look after him. I'd suggest that any
man Jamie that has young children, if they can do it,
then they should do it because the rewards are amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Well Barry, this weekend Heather, Heather Duplessy l and your
better half has let you off the chain because you're
going down to Wellington for the Southland Party. I've only
been there once and that was in the year two
thousand and four. And you might remember this, Barry. We
did a broadcast from the debating Chamber just before I
went nationwide on z B provincials, and there was me, you,
(01:01):
Winston Peters, Brendan O'Donovan, chief economist of the Westpac Bank
in those days. Don Carson, long standing correspondent to this
show and the late Tony Saint Clair, who was then
the Federated Farmer's Chief executive. So we did the broadcast.
I shouted lunch. The lunch went from one o'clock till
about six thirty. Winston kept canceling his plane back to
(01:22):
Towong You and I trotted off to the Southland party.
Winston was nowhere to be seen, but was spotted later
in Bellamies.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Those were the days, although most certainly were the days
of the long lunch. Jamie, there's no way you could
get away with that today, but yeah, that was very
early on in the Southland parties existence.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It was myself that actually started. Those parties were bad.
Up to four hundred expat Southlanders attend the parties in Wellington,
so tonight should be a good shindy, do you know?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I remember most about the six hour lunch were two
things really. One Winston arguing endlessly with Brendan O'Donovan about
how he could lower the exchange rate, and Brendan said
it's not quite that easy. I was on Brendan's side
on that one. But when we walked into that Flash
restaurant by the dock side, well, the dock side yes,
it was the dock side. So we walk in there.
(02:15):
I've got the table booking. You guys are standing behind me.
I say, I've got a table for six for Mackay.
She says, oh okay, yeah, okay, and then she looks
over my shoulder and she says, oh, wait a moment, Sir,
as mister Peters dining with you. And I said, yes,
yes he is. So she scuttled off, got these people
who were dining, moved them off their table so we
(02:36):
could get the best table in the house.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's outrageous. I wouldn't have I would not have taken
the table had I known.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Jamie, Well, you were happy enough back in two thousand
and four, Barracks. Okay, let's talk about Winston. Back in
two thousand and four, we all called our country New Zealand.
Some of us don't anymore. And Winston doesn't like that.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Oh it's incredible that old Winston. He hates people referring
to this country as art rare and he moved to
motion to that effect when Parliament started yesterday and they
got slapped down. I've got to say by the Speaker
Jerry Browne, who reminded Winston that he travels with a
passport all over the world on many occasions and presents
(03:17):
it and hasn't complained about the passport's cover. And of
course the first words on that are at Rah and
then New Zealand sort of comes sick and well that's
going to change. Apparently. We hear today that Brook van
Valden are from actors going to acquire the English version
to go first, followed by the Maldi version. But the
fact is Jamie with a Winston likes that are not
(03:39):
We've got three official languages in New Zealand, English, Maldi
and sign language. So you know, I don't know how
you get away with passport with sign language on it.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
But anyway, well Winston doesn't like that name. Chris Luxon
or Christopher to be more correct, as Boss was calling
names this week, channeling as I said to him on
Wednesday show His Best Doctor Evil when he referred to
Chris Hopkins as freaking freaking Chris Hipkins. No one does that,
Barry Well, nobody.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
In New Zealand uses that particular word, and we know
what it means. But clearly Chris Luxon, being a good
faithful man in terms of religion, has decided that it's
a word that shouldn't be used, so he prefers frickin'. Well,
nobody in New Zealand says, we all know what it means.
(04:31):
So yeah, so yeah, Chris Hipkins. I talked to him yesterday.
I saw him in the office and he was pretty
relaxed about it. And no doubt we'll get called it
much more often the time.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, I reckon Luxeon would have got more mileage if
he dropped the F bomb.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
He's one of us, Jamie. That's what people would probably say.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Young, Okay, let's just finish on. They're calling at Buttergate.
But basically Nikola and Mikey sh goodness to me have
made an absolute meal out of Buttergate.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, well, you know, unfortunately, I've found the badgering of
Miles Hurrel, the chief executive of fon Terra, following him
down the street like a criminal, firing questions at him.
And then yesterday, to top it all off, a journalist
in christ Church asking him what was he paid. Well,
it's got nothing to do with her. What he's paid
(05:27):
is a very successful chief executive for fon Terra. But
not only that, it's that following on the street and
you know it was a miss call by Nichola Willis
to even give out a suggestion, although she didn't say it,
that she could in some way reduce the price of
butter by me meeting with Fonterra. Well that's not going
to happen, but I'll tell you what, Jamie. But in
(05:49):
the next fortnight expect a big announcement on supermarkets.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well there you go, maybe Nichola might actually achieve something.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I think that's probably on the cars up.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Well, you enjoy the Southland party tonight and remember the
remember the old adage Barry, nothing good happens after midnight.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Absolutely, jam I'll be touched up while I'm truly in
bed by them.
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