August 27, 2025 • 6 mins
Our Australian correspondent discusses the prospect of eating less than 100 grams of red meat per week to fit in with new dietary requirements in 2026. Plus, we look at the definition of Angus beef and the true value of the Australian working dog industry.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He's our guy across the ditch on a Thursday, Chris Russell. Chris,
So I want to start if I came with new
dietary guidelines in twenty twenty six or four twenty twenty six.
Apparently you and I, Chris both ken carnivores are only
allowed ninety eight grams of red meat per week. That's
not even an entree.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's ridiculous. These these new eat lance at Commission guidelines,
which which are captveying to be introduced and adopted in
Australia next year. They tell us now that if we
got the watch the rugby, we're only allowed to eat
a quarter of a pie. So what are we going
to do? Is radiother three corners away? It's ridiculous. And
(00:42):
ninety eight grams of red meat a year, of course
kayale is on the menu. Who and you know it.
Look there's so many things in here that are just
not going to happen in the Fed Income Department. It's
saying that we should eat of all ad veggies, a
third of grain based food veggies and legumes, and the
rest split roughly between fruit, fruit, lean protein and dairy
(01:05):
and dairy alternatives. So you know, I think I understand
where they're coming from. And of course one of the
issues for food security, Jamie, is that sixty eight percent
of the extra demand for food over the next fifty
years is going to come from affluent countries who want
to eat meat now instead of grain. And it takes
seven kilos of grain equivalent to produce a kilo of meat.
(01:26):
So I hear the logic, but in the Fed inc
And Department it ain't going to happen. Not in Australia anyway, Thank.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Goodness, the Americans aren't following those guidelines with their burgers.
They can't get enough of our beef. And on that note,
the definition of angus is to change an opportunity or
an opportunity for more premium beef sales. I would have
thought angus was a great brand.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, it is a great brand. And that's the whole point.
They're saying that, like WAGU and others, where they change
what defines something you're allowed to call a WAGU. As
from the new framework being adopted which expect to be
later this year, up to now, seventy five percent of
the genetics had to be angust for it to be
(02:12):
called angus. Well that's going to change out of fifty
percent genetics, which doesn't really apply in Australia here, but
certainly for our overseas markets in Europe and so on.
All of a sudden, people who are keen to buy
angus because they perceive that has been more marbled and
the sort of the type of beef they want to eat.
Will we beat him eating animals which are now fifty
(02:33):
percent angus genetics rather than seventy five percent. And it's
certainly going to be a help to our northern industry
where they don't have seventy five percent angus simply because
those animals don't adapt well to the northern environment. You know,
angus have about a fifth of the sweat glands of
boss indicus or brahm and cattle that they don't have
(02:55):
the same sort of skin color, they sunburn and so on.
So therefore fact that they can put fifty percent and
mix it up with the boss indicates and sell that
as angus will be a big advantage in selling that
meat overseas.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Now, Jamie, next story is about the Australian Australian working
dog industry. Surely, Chris Russell, this is a typo. You're
saying the working dog industry is now worth as much
as your beef export market. Surely not.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, this is a study that's been done here in
Australia which has valued the Australian or a farm dog
work first that are staggering three billion dollars as farmers
struggle to hire any staff that know what they're doing.
They reckon there's about two hundred and seventy thousand working
dogs which contributed to the economy and a similar amount
(03:45):
to the Australian beef exports in twenty three twenty four
or three billion dollars. Now, some of that money comes
from things like savings in labor, extra money coming into
the town. They're saying over a million dollars comes from
efficiencies which you're able to be improved on working on
the farm. So it's not that we're selling the dogs overseas,
(04:07):
but at fifteen thousand dollars a dog, it's certainly people
are now realizing that working dogs are worth their weight
in gold and it's been a good business for those
people in it. I see. They just had the cutile
working dog sales up at Tamworth recently and they had
averages up there for around about eight thousand dollars, which
is pretty good for an average sale.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, the old dogs, the working dogs. They don't complain,
they don't want holiday pay, they don't have sick days,
and they're always loyal. What's not to like about them?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, that's right. I mean, you know, lock your dog
and you wipe up in the boot for three hours
and see which one is pleased to see you.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Hey, Christ, it's twenty twenty five. You can't say that anymore. Sorry, mate,
Let's just finish on your Ossie rugby team put up
a valiant fight against the spring Box and it's all
going to be on and the bledders Low this year.
You've got to be pleased with what you're seeing.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, I think we are. I mean they were certainly
it was certainly what I call wounded lions syndrome as
far as the Box were concerned. But nonetheless it was
still a good game. I think that really, Joe Schmid's
done an amazing job with this side, and he was
also trying had quite a few new players in there.
I think that really. The spring Box say they were
(05:24):
short of their best, and I'm sure that was true
as well. But I mean, going to be very interested
to see how we go against Argentina next thing that
they beat you on the weekend, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, and they're a very good side. But I'm worried
about Andre Pollard and the Pollard and the bombs, not
to mention the bomb squad at Eden Park. It is
going to be a game for the ages. Chris Russell
will catch you again, same time, same place next week.
And I hope you've never locked your lovely Kiwi wife
Jill in the car for three hours.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
No, of course not, Jamie. Would I do that sort
of thing? I don't need to see see might
He's our guy across the ditch on a Thursday, Chris Russell. Chris,
So I want to start if I came with new
dietary guidelines in twenty twenty six or four twenty twenty six.
Apparently you and I, Chris both ken carnivores are only
allowed ninety eight grams of red meat per week. That's
not even an entree.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's ridiculous. These these new eat lance at Commission guidelines,
which which are captveying to be introduced and adopted in
Australia next year. They tell us now that if we
got the watch the rugby, we're only allowed to eat
a quarter of a pie. So what are we going
to do? Is radiother three corners away? It's ridiculous. And
(00:42):
ninety eight grams of red meat a year, of course
kayale is on the menu. Who and you know it.
Look there's so many things in here that are just
not going to happen in the Fed Income Department. It's
saying that we should eat of all ad veggies, a
third of grain based food veggies and legumes, and the
rest split roughly between fruit, fruit, lean protein and dairy
(01:05):
and dairy alternatives. So you know, I think I understand
where they're coming from. And of course one of the
issues for food security, Jamie, is that sixty eight percent
of the extra demand for food over the next fifty
years is going to come from affluent countries who want
to eat meat now instead of grain. And it takes
seven kilos of grain equivalent to produce a kilo of meat.
(01:26):
So I hear the logic, but in the Fed inc
And Department it ain't going to happen. Not in Australia anyway, Thank.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Goodness, the Americans aren't following those guidelines with their burgers.
They can't get enough of our beef. And on that note,
the definition of angus is to change an opportunity or
an opportunity for more premium beef sales. I would have
thought angus was a great brand.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, it is a great brand. And that's the whole point.
They're saying that, like WAGU and others, where they change
what defines something you're allowed to call a WAGU. As
from the new framework being adopted which expect to be
later this year, up to now, seventy five percent of
the genetics had to be angust for it to be
(02:12):
called angus. Well that's going to change out of fifty
percent genetics, which doesn't really apply in Australia here, but
certainly for our overseas markets in Europe and so on.
All of a sudden, people who are keen to buy
angus because they perceive that has been more marbled and
the sort of the type of beef they want to eat.
Will we beat him eating animals which are now fifty
(02:33):
percent angus genetics rather than seventy five percent. And it's
certainly going to be a help to our northern industry
where they don't have seventy five percent angus simply because
those animals don't adapt well to the northern environment. You know,
angus have about a fifth of the sweat glands of
boss indicus or brahm and cattle that they don't have
(02:55):
the same sort of skin color, they sunburn and so on.
So therefore fact that they can put fifty percent and
mix it up with the boss indicates and sell that
as angus will be a big advantage in selling that
meat overseas.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Now, Jamie, next story is about the Australian Australian working
dog industry. Surely, Chris Russell, this is a typo. You're
saying the working dog industry is now worth as much
as your beef export market. Surely not.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, this is a study that's been done here in
Australia which has valued the Australian or a farm dog
work first that are staggering three billion dollars as farmers
struggle to hire any staff that know what they're doing.
They reckon there's about two hundred and seventy thousand working
dogs which contributed to the economy and a similar amount
(03:45):
to the Australian beef exports in twenty three twenty four
or three billion dollars. Now, some of that money comes
from things like savings in labor, extra money coming into
the town. They're saying over a million dollars comes from
efficiencies which you're able to be improved on working on
the farm. So it's not that we're selling the dogs overseas,
(04:07):
but at fifteen thousand dollars a dog, it's certainly people
are now realizing that working dogs are worth their weight
in gold and it's been a good business for those
people in it. I see. They just had the cutile
working dog sales up at Tamworth recently and they had
averages up there for around about eight thousand dollars, which
is pretty good for an average sale.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, the old dogs, the working dogs. They don't complain,
they don't want holiday pay, they don't have sick days,
and they're always loyal. What's not to like about them?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, that's right. I mean, you know, lock your dog
and you wipe up in the boot for three hours
and see which one is pleased to see you.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Hey, Christ, it's twenty twenty five. You can't say that anymore. Sorry, mate,
Let's just finish on your Ossie rugby team put up
a valiant fight against the spring Box and it's all
going to be on and the bledders Low this year.
You've got to be pleased with what you're seeing.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, I think we are. I mean they were certainly
it was certainly what I call wounded lions syndrome as
far as the Box were concerned. But nonetheless it was
still a good game. I think that really, Joe Schmid's
done an amazing job with this side, and he was
also trying had quite a few new players in there.
I think that really. The spring Box say they were
(05:24):
short of their best, and I'm sure that was true
as well. But I mean, going to be very interested
to see how we go against Argentina next thing that
they beat you on the weekend, Jamie.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, and they're a very good side. But I'm worried
about Andre Pollard and the Pollard and the bombs, not
to mention the bomb squad at Eden Park. It is
going to be a game for the ages. Chris Russell
will catch you again, same time, same place next week.
And I hope you've never locked your lovely Kiwi wife
Jill in the car for three hours.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
No, of course not, Jamie. Would I do that sort
of thing? I don't need to see see might
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