The Country 30/01/25: Jane Smith talks to Jamie Mackay

This North Otago farmer, and award-winning environmentalist, also wades in on woke banks, Pāmu and whether self-shedding sheep will render the strong wool industry redundant.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
James Smith is a North Otago farmer, of course, former
winner of the Balance Farm Environment Awards. Jane, I know
you didn't catch all of what Shane Jones had to say,
but do you like his general message.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Soon, Jamie, Oh, it's just music to my ears. He'll
be welcome at new Haven Farms anytime that year, Jamie.
And he gets away of saying what most of us
are thinking as well, and in terms of questions in
their overseas own banks. I loved when I just caughked
something this morning said about you know, the fact that
they're imposing their warped system of beliefs and called them

(00:33):
corporate undertakers. I just thought that was a quote of
the year. And I certainly, you know, we're seeing that
the climate change hysteria changing, and I hope our egg
companies are actually listening to that because they've gone with
a fly on that. And I loved how Shane said
earlier this morning. I heard him say that, you know,
the only riskers offending the luxury beliefs of directors in
woke executives and the fact that this falsehood is amversely

(00:57):
related to economic progress, which Jamie, is the one thing that.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
We need in this country, absolutely, and we need the
productivity driven from the primary sector. Obviously he's getting stuck
into the banks who won't bank or are d banking
fossil fuel companies. But this, as I said to him,
is the thin end end of the wedge. You know,
farming's next in the line of sight if you want.
We've already had banks setting emissions targets and we have

(01:22):
to we have to rail against this chain.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I mean, the work is starting to choke, Jamie, and
really is because we are going broken. And you know,
you look at that zero net zero banking alliance that's
fallen a part of the seas, it's going to be
the same here. You see jp Organ and black Rock,
et cetera pulling out of that's the weaponizing. The weather
is going to change, and you know that climate change
sort of trojan horse has been pulled apart. And actually

(01:46):
when they're outen it up, they'll see it's actually enough
hysteria and headlines and nothing really to it. It's light
on sex and heaving on fiction. Jamie. So yeah, the
tight is turning.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Okay, now you've taken time out of a very busy day.
You and Hubby Blair are selling rams at the moment, Jane,
are you selling self shedding rams? Because if you do,
you could do what was done I think yesterday or
the day before twenty four and a half grand. Is
this the way of the future? Is the wall industry
dead off the back of lifting wall prices.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
We're really proud of the wall that we produce, really nice,
well sought after pairing of wall, Jamie's we actually make
money out of a wall. But you know, again, it's
just part of the dual purpose scenario. So our sheep
mead wall here at six hundred meters above sea level,
got a long cold autumn, winter and spring, and you know,
we take the approach that if we're going to produce wall,

(02:41):
we do the very best job of it possible. So,
and I guess you know all those other factors that
can go into what fifty years of producing sheep here,
so mel drench survival traits a whole lot of things.
So to me, it's a changing breeds simply to save
shearing costs makes no sense at all. But each to
their own, Jamie.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Jane, we haven't got a great line, so I need
to wrap this, but I've got a couple of questions
to finish off for you, Parmu, Should we sell.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
It, Jamie, like any crown owner, I said, it should
be look, they should be looking at the core principles
about why they own it, so Parme should not be
immune to this. And you know again the government have
shone consistently failed to understand farming anyway and implement the
right policies. In fact, Parmu, you know again they have
been very righteous perpetrator of climate hysteria themselves. So I

(03:29):
think we need to be looking at why dev textpayers
we were only those farms. The only thing that would
consume me is who would buy them mega units now?
And it would really consume me. But maybe some form
of getting young farmers in with some overseas investment as well, possibly, Jamie,
it needs to be looked at.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Absolutely. Will you be buying just send this book or
going to her movie?

Speaker 2 (03:51):
None of the above, Neither of the above, Jamie. I
think the world already has enough socialist handbooks. And I
know how this one finishes. It finishes with the author
saying she doesn't have enough fear in the ten bugers
us over seas and leaves us with what one hundred
and four billion dollars a debt, Jamie, So not a
great ending and a note won't be on my shelf
any day's thing.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Hey Jane Smith, thanks for taking time out of selling
some of those wonderful per and Dale rams at the
New Haven stud Did I get it right? Shameless plug time.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Here exactly, Jamie Pirandale Romdal parandal textils note looking forward
to another cover of tea with another fan of this afternoons.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Good on you, Thanks for your time.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Thanks Jamie,