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August 17, 2025 38 mins

Jamie Mackay talks to David Seymour, Mark de Lautour, and Kevin "Smiley" Barrett. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent. You're specialist in
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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and Bart and guitar a loum backscar.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Prom Caetaie Zealand. Good afternoon. I'm Jamie McKay. This is
the Country. It's brought to you by Brant, but Luke
comes to kick it off. Bear never broke my heart,
while it nearly broke mine over the weekend, I'll tell
you why. And a tick with our first guest, David
Seymour Interesting, while is it musical chairs? A lot of
press releases flying around this morning. In the dairy industry,

(00:59):
the A two Milk Company has inked a deal to
purchase Yashili's new Zealand plant for two hundred and eighty
two million dollars and interestingly it's sold at steak in
Mattura Valley Milk to Open Country Dairy. The chief executive
of said company, Mark Dellatore, will join us on the show.

(01:19):
I reckon he got a bit of a bargain Basement
by Smiley Barrett. Kevin Barrett. He's not an Argentina watching
his three boys play the pumas he's carving on his
coastal Taranaki dairy farm. We'll catch up with him see
how it's going. And Phil Duncan, Monday's resident weather expert.

(01:39):
We've had a lot of us have enjoyed a pretty
good winter, but we're in for a bitter windshill tomorrow,
low low, snow, flurries, then frosts again. And I having
been in Queenstown for a day over the weekend, I'll
tell you what they will welcome the snow. There ain't
much of it on the remarkable at all. So we've

(02:01):
got all that to do for you between now and
the end of the hour. Michelle will come in when
we'll have a look at the latest and rural news.
I think she's got a story on Todd McLay heading
to Washington as he's wasting his time. We will find
out and we'll have a look at sports news for
you as well. No one can stop Scottie Scheffler. It's
all on the country, picking off the country today is

(02:32):
Act Party leader and Deputy Prime Minister, David Seymour. I
was in two minds, David, whether to invite you onto
the show today, because you put up a post on
your Facebook page and some of your left wing haters
are getting stuck into me over you doing a Mackayser
taste test. You realize that that bear is almost past
expiry date. Now, how do you put up with all

(02:54):
that vitriol?

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Well, first of all, it was worth it for the Michaisa,
so thank you very much. Second of all, you just
have to think about basic statistics. Probably about zero point
one percent of New Zealand nasty warps little people. The
sad thing is that one hundred percent of those tiny

(03:16):
minority are commenting on Facebook. And once you recognize that
they don't remotely reflect normal life. Once upon a time
they would have all been accommodated at their Majesty's pleasure
at a place like King Seat. Now they're out there
commenting on Facebook and that's just the way it is.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Now.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Just to clear up this, because I have suffered a
bit of collateral damage here, David Seymour, The mackays A
Bear is our country bear. It's a brand we put
out for clients and correspondents at Christmas time to the show,
So you know Damian O'Connor, Joe Luxton, James Shaw when
he was a Green, all recipients on the other side
of the house, Winston Luxon, even just Cinder back in

(04:00):
the day. So there you go where it's a truly
a political bear. I just want to clear that up, David.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Well, see luck though doesn't even drink, and you gave
him some, so you clearly are equal opportunities in sending
out yabruskies.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Just talking about collateral damage. Did Luxon and Chippy get
some of that dancing at the Indian Festival of whatever?

Speaker 4 (04:20):
It was?

Speaker 3 (04:21):
The dad dancing? It's truly appalling. It almost made your
twerking look good.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Almost. Well. The difficulty is you've got to be very
careful of being susceptible to flattery. And I heard Luxem
this morning saying that he was told he had rhythm
as a small child and he's carried that with him.
Often people will say kind things to small children that
nonetheless aren't true, and you should reevaluate that afterwards. I

(04:47):
had a similar experience when I got asked to go
on Dancing with the Stars. I actually hired a professional
to do it an our lesson and say, look, do
you think I could dance? And she said yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think you could. And she wasn't being overly kind,
she was just being honest. It was true. I could off.

Speaker 6 (05:07):
I just didn't.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
You got to be very careful of being susceptible to
flattery or guilding the lily. Now.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I watched with interest Jack Thames interview on Q and
A with Grant Robertson. He is literally in denial in
my opinion anyhow over the COVID spend up.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
He's in denail. And I don't mean the river in Egypt.
I don't know. That's the problem with Robbo is that
they sort of seem to go into a weird trance
where the value of a dollar was massively inflated away.
Suddenly a billion wasn't much money anymore, and in total

(05:46):
he added one hundred and fifteen billion to the net death.
I guess when you're that far in it must be
quite difficult to step back and have a sober look
at it, because it's all pretty ugly. So what do
you do? Well? Summed up by Michael Laws, the former
National MP who once said politicians are the most sincere

(06:06):
profession because we fool ourselves first. And I suspect that's
exactly what web Tho's done.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Can you understand why him and or Robertson and Jacinto
wouldn't turn up to this COVID inquiry. They're not in
public office now yet Chippy and Asheviril are standing for
public office. And as I said to Chippy on the
show last week, I think he should have just fronted
it up, taken it on the chin and got out
of there.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Well, it's a start. Contrast to the COVID era when
they're very happy to invade our living rams at one
pm every day, go on for twenty minutes before we
could get access to the daily numbers, which you remember
that period in New Zealand history when the numbers really mattered.
Are the cases going up or down? How many are
at the border and all the rest? Now you know

(06:53):
today and start contrasts they say, well, we'd just like
to give the information in private, and you know, we
don't need to appear publicly. I wish they'd taken that
attitude during COVID. Just send us the numbers. We pay
for them as taxpayers anyway, and shut up. If they'd
been consistent, I'd be very happy. But the truth is
that they're not being consistent. They're not showing that they

(07:16):
operate in the public interest. If they did, then they
would want open hearings because then the people can look
at what questions for us were they answered? Well, where
there are other questions that we probably think they should
have asked. None of those questions will will ever be known,
And I guess we've just got to settle for what
we get out of it. But do it's a real shame,

(07:37):
it's a real disappointment from them.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Now are you doing Winston Peters yourself? He refused to
put on the high visvest and the helmet last week
to go into the new rail tunnel. You're banging on
now about bike helmets getting rid of them, surely, David Seymore,
we've got bigger fish to fry. It's a bit like
Nikola with Buttergate. You guys are burning or a fiddling

(08:01):
while roam burns.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Should I say, well, let me give you another metaphor.
It's possible to walk and chew gum. This government can
have more than one iron in the fire at any
given time. If you look at the red tape tip
line that the Ministry for Regulation set up that had
over eight hundred people come through just in a few

(08:22):
months with red tape that they frustrated about. A lot
of it we don't do anything about because you know,
it's not really a regulatory problem, or there's a reason
for the rule or whatever. The government's already fixing the
problem a different way, so we don't need to get
on it right now. But a lot of things we
do fix. The garden shed thing has given huge relief
up and down the country, allowing people to get access

(08:45):
to money from well without doing probate more rapidly. There's
lots of things like that. On the bike helmets, which
you asked about. Look, you know, some of the great
cycling nations of the world, take the Netherlands, they don't
require by helmets. And there's an argument out there that
if you go and tell everyone cycling's very, very dangerous

(09:07):
and you've got to buy this thing and you've got
to wear it all the time, you'll actually get less
people cycling, and that's bad for people's health and it
may not be as good for your safety as people
are led to believe. So that's an argument that's out there.
Put it up to the Ministry for regulation. They say, actually,
we think I'm balance that the law does make sense,

(09:27):
so we won't take that one any further. But I
don't think that. I think it's a problem when we
beat up on people just for asking basic questions.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Talking about Winston Peters, he's been a bit of a
roadblock when it comes to the foreign buyerspan. Are we
going to see a decision on that shortly? Nikola Willis
is indicating we will.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Well, you know, there's people that want to go out
and anticipate what the cabinet might decide. I think to
be a team player, you've got to avoid doing that
and just stick with cabinet makes the decision and then
the person responsible announces it. That's how I think you
should play a game. I you know, as you know,
the things strongly in favor of people from overseas being

(10:09):
able to send their money here. I look in the
rural context, there's a lot of people who are aging
who say I want to get a good price for
my farm. I owned it, I work for it. Why
should I be restrict it to selling it to people
with the New Zealand passport I think that's a perfectly
fair perspective. That's why the Act Party is always favored
being open to overseas investment. Will we get some movement

(10:30):
on the housing Let's hope so. But you know it's
not not really.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
Up to me.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
I'm actually the Minister responsible for the Overseas Investment Act,
and you know, let's just be loyal to our colleagues
and when we've got something collectively to announce, then you
know we'll come out and do it.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Quite happy to have foreign buyers coming and plant the
country and pine trees.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
David Seymour, Well, I wouldn't say I'm happy too, but
I just make the point that everybody, We'll put it
another way. My most popular ever policy was other people
should take the bus, and my second most popular policy
is your neighbors can't sell to an overseas buyer, but
you can. It's one of those old stories while we're

(11:13):
trading metaphors this chat. You know, God make me chaste,
but just not yet. And I would just say, look,
you know, you've got to stand up for people's right
to do what they want on their own property while
also being careful about the environmental laws around the impacts
of pines on neighbors, and there are problems with soil

(11:33):
asertification and so on. But once you've got your laws
and your framework right, it shouldn't matter so much what
color of the person's passport is. The objectives have good
laws for the land, regardless of what color the people are.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
And just on a lighter note, to finish the opportunity
part is seeking a new leader, but they're doing it
in a public ad on a website Seek now. That
doesn't need to happen obviously in dictatorships like ACT and
New Zealand First David Seymour, Oh.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Well, look the thing is, we actually don't need to advertise.
We've got a whole lot of people. Forty six candidates
standing for local at the local government level, eleven members
of parliament, and a whole lot more people will be
standing for us from the parliamentary elections last next year.
So ACT just operates and recruits by word of mouth

(12:24):
and personally, I've always said if someone can do the
job better than me, I'll be very very proud to
sit home and vote for that party that believes in
cutting Texas, cutting waste, cutting red tape and making this
a free society. We're all equal, you know. I certainly
don't need the hussle. If someone else is willing to

(12:45):
do it, then I'd support them.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
You're happy to be the MP for Tyron or where
have I heard that before? Hey on the show tomorrow,
by the way, David Seymour Damian O'Connor, former Labor agg
minister these days trade spokesperson and he got some makaisa
for Christmas as well. Thanks for landing me in it.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Hey, No, no, it's a real pleasure, and I hope
you have. I hope you have a great day. And
I thought you were going to ask me about the
Maori ward elections and telling the priests to get back
to God and stop middling in politics. But anyway, I.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Haven't got one. You haven't got time for that particular controversy.
To see you later. Thanks for your time. Twenty after twelve.
Thank you, David. Some of your text feedback coming and
let me just refresh my screen. Can't read that one out,
but I can read this one out. On Friday, I

(13:39):
got a text just before the end of the show
from someone talking about six dollars six dollars thirty five
cents per kilogram for Angus yearlings at the Tekawity spring sale.
That equated to they were two hundred and eighty two kilos.
That's seventeen hundred and ninety dollars. That's huge money, isn't

(14:00):
it for Yeling cattle. Here's another one. Come in Friday afternoon,
an irishman and a key. We walk into a bar,
one walks out with a meat company from treev not
bad Trev. That's a reference, of course to the Alliance Group.
The Alliance shareholders will be the ultimate deciders of that.
Another one here, Our back line is not fair anymore.

(14:23):
We have no punch in the midfield. We'll have to
ask Smiley about that one. I'm a big Jordy Barrett fan.
I don't think he lacks any punch, and I thought
Billy Procton might be the answer at center, but he
seems to be struggling a wee bit. But I looking
at that Australian team and the pace they've got in
the back three will Jordan's in a league of his own.

(14:43):
No problems there, but we do have some issues on
the wink. You know who I'd pick For those of
you listening who are even interested I'd pick that Leroy
Carter chuck him on the wing. He could be the
next big thing for the all blacks. And well here's
another one come in. It's controversial, what a woke waste

(15:06):
of time Country Calendar was last night with the goat
milking lady? Just a hobby farmer. How about more stories
about real farmers? So what do you reckon? Do you
think Country Calendar was a woke wasted time last night
with the goat milking lady. You've got to remember that
the target audience for Country Calendar is not farmers, it's

(15:28):
urbanites in the middle of Auckland. They probably liked the
cute story about the goat milking from the hobby farmer.
Didn't really have that much interest For me, to be
perfectly honest, I enjoy seeing a large skulle farming operation
that's doing something really entrepreneurial and innovative, and they normally
Country Calendar. To be fair to them, it's a great show.

(15:49):
They normally have a good side story as well, So anyhow,
that is some of your feedback. Up next. The big
story this morning was the fact that the A two
Milk company has sold its steak and Matoa Valley Milk
to Open Country Dairy. Mark de Latour up next on
the country. He is the chief executive of Open Country Dairy.

(16:13):
Don't feel like going home, so I'm going to send
Rid on the edge of this.

Speaker 7 (16:24):
Watch sascipit, drink a beer.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Musical chairs. In the dairy industry this morning, the press
releases were flying thick and fast. The A two Milk
company has inked a long awaited deal to purchase Yashili's
new Zealand plant for two hundred and eighty two million,
and it's sold at steak in Matara Valley Milk to
Open Country Dairy. Now Matara Valley Milk has a big

(16:57):
flash new plant just outside a gore let. Welcome onto
the country, the chief executive of OCD Open Country Dairy,
Mark Dellator. This is a bargain for you, Mark at well. Yeah,
good afternoon. A two is going to have a right
down or suffer a loss of one hundred and thirty
million on the steal. You stole it from under their nose.

Speaker 6 (17:20):
I don't know if that's quite the deal. I like
the way you talk, but no, look, we valued the business,
you know, in terms of what we thought we could
capture from it, Jomie, And for us, it was really
about an investment that just secures our position in that
Southland south Oatiga region. So it's an exciting day Fraighten country.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
So you'll be chasing new supplies at the bottom of
the country.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (17:42):
You know, we've been looking to secure more mil milk
in that region anyway, and I think just you know,
being that little bit further north up towards Gore just
gives us logistically a little bit of crete in terms
of the area where we can secure milk from. So
you know, you know the drill, Jamie. We see our

(18:03):
role in the industry is providing farmers with choice and
giving them an alternative and you know, hopefully for a
new group of farmers, and we can give them that opportunity.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Do all the existing suppliers to Matara Valley Milk come
with the deal, come with the package?

Speaker 6 (18:17):
Yeah, they do, Jamie. I mean we bought the shares
in the Mattara Valley Company, so it comes with all
of the contractual deals that they'd go with their company.
So we'll be honoring them milk supplied agreements of course,
and we'll be getting around to Look, you visit with
all the Mattara Valley farmers in the next week or two.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Why would A two sell it for what one hundred
million dollars and have a loss of one hundred and
thirty million on the deal? Why not keep it? What's
in it for them?

Speaker 6 (18:46):
You've always to ask them that, Jamie, I mean that
for them, it's obviously part of a big supply chain reorganization.
They'll have their reasons for doing it. Just it was
a great opportunity for Open Country to to establish further
our position in Southland.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
So A two has purchased Yashirley's New Zealand plant for
two hundred and eighty two million dollars. Is that Pocono
It's so confusing.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
Yeah, there's there's two sites in Coconot. As you drive
past it, there's the sin Late site in Togona. Right
next door is the Yeshilei site. So they've bought they
chile site, which is the northern site as you're driving,
say from Hamilton to Auckland.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
So once again this is confusing. What happens to all
those North Island sinlay suppliers who have been supplying their
milk to Open Country dairy.

Speaker 6 (19:36):
Well that continues, Joey. You know there's all the farmers
have got their own contracts that they're working through with
Sinnate now on, and you know we'll be looking to
try and continue to collect that milk ongoing, and you
keep the relationships going in that front. So you know,
that's quite separate to the steel down with Natara Valley really,
so that's it's probably a North North Islands the south Old.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Story that plant just outside of Gore and you've paid
what one hundred is it one hundred million dollars or
is that commercially sensitive? That's commercially sensor all right somewhere
around there, Okay, but you couldn't build it for.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
That Yeah, probably not in today's you know, and you
know with today's building costs, I guess. But the you know,
in terms of what you know, how that valuation is
done and what's included, Jamie Will, we'll just move forward
and say we're proud to get the business and we'll
be looking to run it hard and you know, see

(20:37):
what we can do in that south In region.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
So in percentage terms, how much does the purchase of
Matara Valley milk increase the total open country dairy stable
by is it ten or twenty percent?

Speaker 6 (20:51):
Yeah, i'd be in terms of it, I'd look maybe
another four or five percent, you know, in terms of
our size, I think from a national milk pool point
of view, might give us another percent Jamie. But you know,
for us, like I said, I'm sort of repeating myself,
I know, but for us, it was more about buying
a fantastic facility, and it gives us the chance to

(21:14):
produce a range of products that we don't currently off
to our markets and grow it and sign on more
milk in that part of the country.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, it sounds like a good deal. Just while I've
got you, prospects for twenty five twenty six are looking
pretty good. Is that ten dollars locked and loaded?

Speaker 6 (21:33):
Yeah, I mean it is looking good at the moment,
isn't it. I mean, pricing holds and you know, it
was interesting. We were just looking because we paid four periods.
Of course, we're looking at you know, once we once
we settle P one this year, what the returns for
open country farmers will be over the past four periods
in a period two, three and four of last year,
in period one, it'll be look pretty pretty eye wateringly

(21:56):
good to be honest, journey, but the you know, lots
of volatility world. I keep saying, you know, there's lots
of change, as you well know. But it's certain looking
good at the month.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
We'll take it while it's on offer. Mark delatour chief
executive Open Country, I still reckon you've got you yourself
a bargain just outside a gore.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Good luck, Thanks Danny.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Thank you Mark. It is twenty seven away from one.
Some of your feedback on Country Calendar, actually Michelle's wandered
in here to do rural news and a tick. Did
you watch Country Calendar last night? Michelle? It's part of
your job description.

Speaker 8 (22:31):
No, last night's story didn't really like It's not because
I thought it was work. It's just not something that
I was interested in, if that makes any sense.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
I had a bitter experience with goats in the eighties,
so I was never gonna watch the Goat. I did
watch the goat milking episode. Some of your feedback, I
agree Country Calendar last night was woke. I didn't watch
the end of it. We need a lifestyle country calendar
as well as a country country calendar. Yeah, once again,
I just reiterate that, and we are Julian O'Brien, who's

(23:02):
the long standing producer. He might be the narrator. No,
he's not the narrator. I've forgotten the name of the
guy who's the narrator. He's been on as well. Their
target markets market is urban, not country. And as we
say on this show, if you don't like it, just
changed channels. There's plenty going on out there. Hes a
contrary thought, Country Calendar was okay last night. They have

(23:25):
a good mix of ones to appease both town and country.
At least it wasn't Lake harwe a station telling us
all what to do. Last two Country Calendar episodes have
been crap. I agree. I disagree with that, Texter because
the one before that was the one on the Morrison family.
Yeah that's right, Yeah, old Howie, my old Lincoln mate.

(23:47):
But the Morrisons are a long standing farming family with
great heritage down south. And I thought the cannabis growing,
which is a side part of their business which they're expanding,
was really really interesting. A traditional sheep and beef property
diversifying into cannabis. I thought it was good. There you go,

(24:08):
But I mean, all these measures, all these judgments are
obviously subjective. Okay, Up next, we'll have the latest in
rural news and sports news. Before the end of the hour,
Smiley Barrett, I wonder if he agrees with me that
we need to put Leroy Carter and to the All
Blacks and are Phil duncan you can expect some bitter

(24:30):
windchill tomorrow. It is August. We'll take it now rather
than late August, which we're getting very close to, or
especially September. Okay, that's up next on the Country. Welcome
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Speaker 3 (26:08):
Now here's Michelle Watt with the latest and rural news.
And where in the world is Todd?

Speaker 8 (26:13):
Yes, so Todd is heading around the world. Agriculture, Trade
and Investment Minister Tom McLay is traveling to Saudi Arabia
and the United States this week for high level trade discussions.
He is in read where he'll meet with Saudi ministers
to strengthen food and agritch corporation and explore opportunities under
the recently concluded New Zealand Golf Corporation Council Free Trade Agreement.

(26:34):
He's then heading to Washington, d C. To meet US
Trade and agg officials, including Secretary Book Rowlands, following America's
decision to impose tariffs on countries with trade surpluses. And
we will hopefully be chatting to Todd from the US
at some point in the next couple of days.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Looking forward to catching up with them. Right is he
peeing into the northwester though? That's the trouble is that
the Trumpster's probably made up his mind. But I guess
you got to have a crack, haven't share. Here's sport.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
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dot NZED.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
I haven't seen this. I'll have to watch it on
the Highlights package tonight. A devastated Bobby McIntyre after letting
a prime opportunity to win a PGA Tour playoff golf
event Asler. He finished second in Maryland after world number
one Scottish Scheffler roared back from four behind at the
start of the day to triumph on fifteen underpar overall

(27:30):
McIntyre card at a three over seventy three to sit
to strokes back. No one can stop Scotti. Scheffler. Interestingly Michelle.
I was discussing this with Callum Proctor from the Hits
here in Dunedin this morning, and Callum's a keen golfer
and like Tiger was exciting, Rory's exciting, bryceon de shambos

(27:54):
Se exciting. Scotty's as boring as batship Can I say that?
But interestingly, all those top golfers appear in the new
Happy Girlmore Too Golfing movie, which is utter rubbish, but
it's a good watch simply because they're all in there.
And Scotty Scheffler has quite a major role and he

(28:14):
does it really really well, So well done to Scotti Scheffler.
That is sports news. There's something here on the All
Blacks and Argentina will keep our power dry because up
next we've got Smiley Barrett. Oh, welcome back to the country.

(28:39):
It is seventeen away from one. As I said at
the top of the show, Luke Colmb's bear never broke
my heart certainly hasn't broken the heart of this man,
because anytime he's on tour, which he isn't today, he's
got a bear in his hand. At midnight, Smiley Barrett,
father of Smiley, to start with, how's the carving going,
you'll be you'll be elbows deep in to dare.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
You you're good, mean Jamie listeners. Yeah, it's yeah, well
over halfway it's been pretty good. Really is no modern
name milk fever, but there's been no growth. It's been
pretty cold.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Yeah, you've had a really you've had a wettish winter.
Am I correct in saying that?

Speaker 5 (29:18):
Probably six traight weeks ago we had two weekends that
were were underwater? You know, it was the time we
had unfortunately you know when we now from the head
they had their floods. We copped it as well, but
obviously not I was bad. But yeah, it's it's it's
a big highs have been coming out at the moment
and we've said the old frost and yeah it's certainly
two cool and but it's around the north today but

(29:40):
a bit of warm rain coming but sawmets down and
there's an it's gone around the south again on the weekend.
So yeah, it's much the same.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Really, you're a two and organic correct me if I'm wrong. Chah,
I don't know what your payouts going to start with
the sheer smiley, it'll be a big number. You'll have
to go on a few rugby tours to spend all
your money.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
Well, it's all well and good, but it's a lot
of Fontier and paid us have been a too than
not at the moment. So yeah, things might change now though, Jamie. Yeah,
I just read by reading between the lines here what.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
You probably have no opinion on this one A two
milk company. They've purchased Sheerley's New Zealand plant, but they've
sold Matara Valley milk down on south And to Open
Country Dairy. Interesting happenings in the corporate dairy world.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
Yeah, I just briefly read Miles email this morning, so
that's all I know that it knows. Yeah, you obviously
know it more than me, jam you, but yeah, without
having too much into it. Yeah, so interesting. Obviously open
Country or what milk down the either have to fill
that plant, so that's going to be an expense of Fonterra.
But yeah, what's the space of those here?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, mind you to be fair to Fonterra, it's doing
very well at the moment. It's a bit of a
shining beacon if you want, compared to some other co
ops around at the moment. So if you're a Fonterra shareholder,
You've probably got little to complain about at the moment.
The co ops performing pretty well.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Yes, since Miles is coming there and what has been
there now is that Sire's time flies. He's definitely has
certainly turned the ship around and it's yeah, he's definitely
the man that's got us where we are now. So
you for good at to Miles and his team here.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
What did you make of the of the All Black tests.
You're obviously a very interesting spectator, you and Robin and
all the Klan and the Barrett household. Minds you there's
three of them over in Argentina at the moment. What
did you make of that test?

Speaker 5 (31:36):
Yeah, boys off the back of France. Yeah, they obviously
he raise a blood a few players when I'm looking
a few guys and rightly so you know, with their
form this year, and yeah, i'd say you want to
stick with a few combinations just moving forward. But yeah,
i'd say they're pretty happy him talking to the boys.
I flicked in the text, but you know they were.

(31:57):
They got through unscathed and I think it's too many
juries the team, but yeah, it's just a few little
eras creaking in the bit of a dead pets in
the second half there, which you know allowed the Ardis
to get back in. But sound that you know, Jamie
planning playing any team overseas and the own pets is
tough week, you know, so to get a win is yeah,
and as the South Africans found out, you know, the

(32:18):
AUSI has ever won there since God just read animal
was a cowboy, you know. So yeah, it's interesting that
moving forward.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
That that that was fantastic. We're gonna have to fare
or be very wary of those Aussies in the bladders
low cut. Maybe they've this, maybe this is their peak.
I suspect the spring Box will come back with venom
and the second Test. But that was a really good
performance and interesting then there's been a lot of commentary
around that they're back three if we exclude Will Jordan
for us, they looked, they looked sharp, they looked sharper

(32:47):
than our two wings.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Anyhow, you have a very good you know, and now
watching the lines test with interest too, and they're very
lucky not to sort of when that second test, you know,
with Valentinian Will scouting of that. I have been there
early in the peace roll. You know, things might have
been different, but it's it's definitely good for New Zealand rugby.
OSSI he's been strong on that for sure and years.
It's going to be you're looking forward to the bleeddlelow

(33:10):
Covid forward.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
It's going to be interesting, going to be fantastic. Hey,
just finally, what do you reckon of my theory that
we've got to put Leroy Carter in there? Start him
on the wing.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
He's a genuine athlete, isn't he. He's got big ticker,
he's courtneys to say, there's no there's no substitute for guess.
You know, he's got a guess you know. So yeah,
and with with Kayleb at the moment, yeah, it's yeah,
we just need for me a winger has got to

(33:41):
attack those high balls. We put balls up in there.
You know, they've got to be under them. Just we've
got to really attack the balls. And you know he's
very good at that. So yeah, we'll soon find out,
won't he.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Hey, Smiley Barrett, Kevin Smiley Burret, thanks for you, Tom'm
good luck with the rest of carving. I can hear
your phone going, so someone else is trying to get
a see as well.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Go.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Well, thanks for your time.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Do you think have a good day, James, Well, I.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Actually, Smiley, just before I forget, I need you're old.
You know your old sparring mate Tim Myers used to
be the chief executive of Norwood. I cleaned up big
time with Southland beating man Or two. Bad luck to you,
owe me, but you can deliver it personally when you're
in New Zealand. But what about your team, Sara Naki
thrashing Auckland. How good was that?

Speaker 5 (34:26):
You have never seen that coming?

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Was?

Speaker 8 (34:27):
Well?

Speaker 5 (34:28):
I mean, I mean Autor. I've got a young team
at Feenis to him, and yeah, the other a few boys.
I think one guy was playing the first game, one
was playing the Blazer game and Logi Crawley was a
fiftieth game, so it was good for Logi. But yes,
sure was, Jamie. I watched south and boy, Jesus, I
couldn't believe that they come back from Yeah, I was

(34:49):
here full Critson year. They deserved that win.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yes it was. It was the highlight of my weekend.
There you go, Hey, Smiley, Barrett, thanks for your.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
Time, No worries. Do you have a good one?

Speaker 3 (34:58):
There we go, great man. Kevin Smiley, Barrett, Phil Duncan
to come before the end of the air. Lots of
feedback coming in about country calendar and goat farmers and
wokeness or anti wokeness or not wokeness at all. It's
good that you've got an opinion. Also a bit of
feedback on Venison. We'll get back to that.

Speaker 9 (35:17):
We just don't know me the pardon this guitar, Welcome
back to the country.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Just having a bit of trouble tracking down Phil Duncan.
We'll try and get them before the end of the air.
Country calendar should now be called Conifer calendar calendar, whether
that's a play on words or a typo. Given successive
governments drained the guts out of rural New Zealand with
carbon farming. Here's one and from my old mate Steven Harris.

(35:57):
Let me see what he has to say. Bobby McIntyre,
of course got beaten by Scottis Scheffler that in the
PGA tournament said he wanted to throw his clubs away.
Ever felt like that, Jamie, Yes, Steve, every Saturday and
as as bad as my golfers, I'll be keeping an
IOU on the golf app and yours is far worse
than nine. Palm also texts about the Stags the rugby

(36:24):
team as opposed to Venison. But here's one from Ted.
Venison is the sleeping giant that never gets a mention
with the big three having blown ten bucks last week.
So give it a plug a jmie, says Ted. Happy
to Ted, And the reason it probably doesn't is it's
a bit of a minority industry now compared to the
big ones like dairying. We've got five or six million

(36:46):
dairy cattle, similar number of beef cattle, and we've still
got twenty three point three million sheeps. So a minor player,
but an important industry. Nonetheless, we're coming back after the break, okay,
wrapping the country some of your feedback. We can't find
pel duncan. We'll get them tomorrow, My texter. It turns

(37:08):
out it was Graham Williams, the bush poet. No, it
was country colander, hence the holes to drain the guts
out of it. Well, thank you for explaining that to me.
I was a bit slow on the pickup, accusing you
of a typo there, Graham must get you on the show.
I hope you're doing well. Here's another one. Last night's
Country Calendar wasn't woke because there wasn't a messagery regenagg

(37:34):
or saving the planet, or they were doing it better.
They were just a tin pot cottage industry. Um. Yeah,
some of your texts are a bit like some of
the feedback on David's scene was Facebook page, Michelle, I'm glad.

Speaker 7 (37:54):
I'm glad.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
I don't really indulge in social media, to be honest.
There's so many fair gerl's out there, and as I'm
fond of saying, look, if you don't like it, change
the channel. There's plenty of options. Anyhow, we'll catch you
back tomorrow. Got a special.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
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