August 1, 2024 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Chris Brandolino, Emma Poole, Tim Dangen, Tessa Chartres and Nancy Crawshaw, and Barry Soper.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Fred You're specialist in
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's out to Gavin, need to favor.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
And I holy pray for my gar prayer.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
So who to hell them out? Who to hell the
am I to expect to save? He?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Oh dear bye hold It's out to Gavin. I needed
to favor me Cadainy's Ealand and welcome to the Country.
That could be my theme song for today. God, I
need a favor. Having a few phone issues today, We're
going to do our best to get through them. Technology
(00:50):
is wonderful. New technology is wonderful when it works. Hey, anyhow, well,
I'm going to kick off the show and I think
I've definitely got him on the blower on the other
end of it. Anyhow, Chris Brandolino Weather Guy. They've just
released their updated three month outlook. Very keen to see
what our weather guy on a Friday has to say
about that. We've got some dynamic young leaders on the
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show today in New Zealand, in fact, Australasian farming, primary
sector agri business, Emma Pool and Tim Danjon the Danjeon's
own panel, Tessa Chartres and Nancy Crawshaw the twenty twenty
four Xander McDonald Award win Is. They're on their tour
of duty around New Zealand at the moment. We're going
to try and track them down and Palmi North Barry
(01:32):
soaper on another fascinating week in politics, and I've actually
got some good wald news for you as well. So
that's good. We need some good world news. But let's
kick it off with our guy at Newa, Chris Brandelino NIWA.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Weather update with Lanco Trusted Animal Health Solutions.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yallah, I'm good. Have to do into u JM. Well
how are you?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'm not bad at all? Will I be the better
for hearing your just released update in three month outlook?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Just it depends on your needs and perspective. So I'll
let people I guess taking the information be the judge
and how they receive it. Look, here is the outlook
for the next three months. We think much of the
country going to have a warm ling. We're saying average
to above average temperatures as a whole. Now, look, the
next week is going to be pretty stink and chilly.
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Big Old High is going to move in over the
next several days, and we're going to find pretty cold mornings,
pretty chilly overnights, but that's not going to define the
next three months. In fact, Jamie, as we get to
about the tenth, the ninth, the eleventh of August, and
moving beyond that, for the month of August, it's going
to turn decidedly warmer. So this cold snap we're going
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to see is only for the first roughly you know,
six seven, eight days or so. Thereafter it gets much warmer,
so that is average to above average. This is August, September,
October as a whole, so it could be a warm
star to spring and for the upper North Island, so
the Wakata, Northland Auckland Bay of Plenty, we think there's
actually more confidence for warmer temperature, so we've gone straight
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up above average for temperatures as a three month collective. Now,
for rainfall, it's gonna be quite dry for the first
probably two or three weeks. The exception Northland. You're gonna
get a good drop of rain this weekend into early Monday,
but pushing that aside, it is gonna be quite dry
for the next I would say two to three weeks late,
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say the last ten days of August or thereabouts, things
start to change. We could see much more active weather
and a better chance for rain. And that lead is
into a three month peria Jamie where rainfall is likely
to be either where it should be normal or wetter
than normal, above normal. And that's for the whole country.
So this dry start of August, we've had some really
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dry conditions this winter so far in parts of the country.
Hopefully we get some reprieve from that as you work
away into the end of August and beyond.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
So where was the bad news and all of that?
There wasn't any, was there?
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Well, I don't think so. Look, no, I guess if
you're a fan of average or above average temperatures and
rainfall that's near normal or above normal, you're sitting pretty
I sent that's a pretty good thing. Look, I have
a feeling I will say this spring I wouldn't be
The spring is always a very wild season. You get
these big swings of you know, really warm days, and
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even then he has some really cold temperatures. It's that
battle coming out of winter going into summer. But I
wouldn't be surprised because of an emerging li Nina. Because
of this sudden stratospheric warming we've heard about in the
pole Antarctica, we have some maybe even more of a
I guess spring on steroids. You know, some wild swings
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that are maybe even wilder than usual. So I think
that's one thing to be mindful of. There could be
some pretty dramatic swings as you work away through the
next three months, in particular the end of August into
actual spring to September and October.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Wow, we'd expect nothing else from Spring. She can be
a cruel mistress, Chris, the most unpredictable of the seasons.
Do you like that?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, that's a really good the mistress part that could
make some people uncomfortable.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Well, well not Donald Trump. Well, I don't know, We're good.
A moody three means no, I can't say. I can't
say any of that. I'm just sticking holes. No moody Spring,
the teenager of the season, pimples and all. Okay, Chris Brandoleno,
do really appreciate your time. You have a good a
good weekend, my friend, always do it. Do love your
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contribution here on the country.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Welcoming on you too, Jamie. Thanks brother.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
There we go. So Michelle loaded a whole lot of
country songs and we go country on a Friday here
on the country. This is I need a favor. I'm
not sure who it's from, but I'll do my homework.
During the commercial break, we are having a few technical
difficulties with our new studio, but that's my problem and
not yours. Up next, it's the Dungeon Zone panel. Emma
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Paul I think she's just back from a speaking engagement
in Australia, and her older brother Tim Danjon. They were
the twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three respectively FMG
Young Farmers of the Year. Really looking forward to catching
up with Tessa Chartres and Nancy Crawshaw. They're the twenty
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twenty four Zander McDonald Award winners. They're touring the country
at the moment on a private jet too, I might
add as a part of their prize. Barry Soper wrapping
yet another fascinating week in politics before the end of
the showger Well, it was going to be the Danon
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Zone panel, but due to incompetence on behalf of our
phone system, I can only get one on at a time.
I'm sure the host doesn't have to put up with
this sort of technology anyhow, I'll do my best under
trying conditions. Tim Dangen is the first part of the
Dangeon Zone panel. Of course, he was the twenty twenty
two FMG Young Farmer of the Year. We'll get his
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sister Emma on shortly.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Tim.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Interesting. In the past week or so, we've we've been
doing a promotion for Meet the Need. Isn't that an
astounding number over two million meals since twenty twenty from
the Rural Food charity.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
I think it's absolutely outstanding, Jamie. And it's interesting to
see that despite farmer conference being low over the last
year or so, that farmers are still willing to figure
of the pockets, you know, and try and fill this
deficit that we've got. We've got rough a million people
that are in need of food assistance throughout New Zealand,
and so I think it's it's awesome to see farmers
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using it as an opportunity to reach in and give
some food and give the opportunity for our consumers to
be able to tell our story for us, because we
know that they're the biggest advocates and the best people
to reach out and hear our fantastic story of what's
actually happening on the land.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
And we must support those stats. And I haven't got
them in front of me, just off the top of
my head, something like one and one in five families
at some time or other are suffering, you know, food poverty,
not having enough food in the fridge to feed the family.
It's tragic in the land of milk and honey. Do
you know what else I find tragic, Tim, And I
don't know whether you've caught up with this story, is
the fact that we've got a shortage of beef and
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lamb at the moment in this country, yet, especially when
it comes to lamb our farmers are being paid a
pittance for it.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
Yeah, we're battling with some structural difficulties here, aren't we,
When you know, there's obviously the deficit and from the
consumer base, and then farmers are battling financially as well
on the income side of the Liegers. So I'm not
sure what the solutions are to some of these big issues, Jamie.
But the more that we can talk about them, then well,
I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
This might sound like a dumb suggestion, Tim, but maybe
the meat companies. The big meat companies could look at
diverting more product to the domestic market and see if
they can make a week but more money for the farmers.
Maybe I'm just a wee bit grumpy today. Anyhow, I
want to talk about something that gave you great pleasure,
Tim Dangein, and that was the love and the sleepover
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with Federated Farmers and Labor. How did you get involved
in that one?
Speaker 8 (09:41):
I'm not so sure really, ma I suppose on grassroots
enough still that fed sort of saw value and having me.
Then I take my head off to Wayne and the
team for organizing because I think it's a fantastic initiative.
I know that Wayne tried to get it going with
the previous labor team but that they weren't interested. But
it's it's good to have the room there now, and
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it was a great opportunity just sort of voice where
I thought they went horribly wrong in the last election anyway,
and the trust that they eroded quite quickly. It was
positive to see that they did listen. So it would
be great to see if they take notes on what
was discussed and we'll see some positive action in that
space because we know that you know, this current government
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that we have won't last forever, and eventually labor will
get a turn to come back in. So it's making
sure that those relationships are in place so that when
they do come and we're not sort of blindsided like
we were last time.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
It was.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Yeah, it was a good day actually, and I think
it was positive overall. It was a little bit surprising
to see how naively where I suppose around some of
our issues and where we were coming from. But it
showed an obvious disconnection there that that can be solved,
I think, and it's just through communication. They need to
make sure that they're listening to us right from the
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very very get go, so that they don't come out
with unrealistic draft policy that in turn makes us as
farmers get our back up pretty quickly.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Well, I'll give Joe Luxton, their AGGS spokesperson, credit for
being a good listener anyhow, But I'm not worried it
so much about Labor. Yes, you're right, eventually the tide
will turn and eventually we will have a center left
government again. It's not Labor that worries me. It's their
two coalition partners, the Greens and to Party Maury activists,
not political parties in my humble opinion, just finish Tim
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before I try and get your sister on with how
the season's going on your West Auckland beef farm.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
Yeah, we're actually having a cracker, Jamie, So there's always
our thoughts go out to you the struggling regions that
are quite dry, particularly down down south and around Canbury
and that. But it's nice for you know why kadow
Up is that a great autumn winter. We've been very
fortunate with not too much raime but enough to keep
things sticking over, some nice warm temperatures and some fine days,
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so utilization has been great and it's good to get
a good one off the back of the cyclone and
then four droughts in the last five years. So it's
nice al turn Jamie.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Well, you certainly deserve it. Tim Dangeen twenty twenty two
FMG Young Farmer of the Year. I'm going to take
a break and I'm going to try and get your
sister on the other line. Sorry for not getting you
into the panel, but it's sort of a double Dangeine today,
so it's you know, they're getting value for money. The
punters out there listening. Go well, Tim, thanks for your time.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
No worry, Jamie, you'll make it work.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Well.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
As promise. We always get our man here on the country,
or in this case, our woman. Emma Paul joins us
twenty twenty three FMG Young Farmer of the Year and
sorry about the technical difficulties with the phone system Emma,
and you having to wait patiently while we chatted to
Tim to good to catch you now. You've just come
back from being a keynote speaker at a dairy conference
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in Australia. How do you manage that when you're carving
we can hear the calves in the background. And you're
a dairy farmer, you're a vet, and you've got two
young kids.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
Good afternoon, Jamie. And we were very fortunate to get
over there and head over to Australia and see what
they've got to offer. But yep, you're right, there was
tricky with two young kids in toe. But the key
was to chuck the grandparents on the flight with us
and leave the other set of grandparents and family here
running the farm. So we're pretty lucky to be surrounded
by family and helping us to get over there. But
I don't think I'll be jumping on a plane with
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two small children again anytime soon.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Well, what is it about you, Kiwi supermums? We had
the rowers last night that was fantastic and now you
so have you found Emma? Since you've been the young
Farmer and of course you were the first female Young
Farmer of the year, we know you're eloquent. You're a
good speaker, are you? Are you a hot property now
on the speaking circuit.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
I don't know about hot property, Jamie, but certainly heaps
of opportunity has come from winning that contest for me,
and one of them has been getting to travel around
visit oral communities and speak to people and share your opinions.
Which has probably been the best thing about the contest
is really the people that I've met as an outcome
of wanting so incredibly fortunate there, which is awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Now.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
When I dropped you a text yesterday and asked if
you'd go on the panel with your brother, even though
we haven't got you on together, you'd sent me a
text back and saying sure, And I said, what do
you want to talk about? You said, just the differences
between Australian support for farmers versus the key we outlook
off the back of the conference you were at, what
is the difference?
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Well, it's quite interesting gam me talking to the farmers
and more of the urban counterparts over there, that Australia
has done a really effective job at keeping the whole
country on board with what they're doing. As farmers, they
seem to have more generalized support in what we've noticed
in New Zealand that over probably the last decade that
we've sort of lost that sense of our connection to
our urban counterparts that are still there, but we need
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to be mindful getting into the future. I think that
we remain connected to them. And one of the things
the Australians have done, or very Australian which is the
equivalent of darien Z over here, they've invested heavily in media,
in marketing to the urban people rather than just to
the rural sector, and that's been really effective at changing
the mindset and keeping people on board. So it would
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be a good thing to replicate with darian Z over
here is to pull some of that funding into social
media and the likes. And I suspect our farmers would
kick up a fuss if they saw a whole lot
of money being poured into Facebook heads and the likes,
but we've got to look at the long term outcome here,
and we're looking to change views and opinions and beliefs
over a period of ten or more years.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Really.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah, well it's interesting commentary from you, Emma, because if
we look at the Olympics right now, and I've been
looking at nothing else fascinating, but Beef and Lamb are
the major sponsor there. They're obviously sponsoring the likes of
Stacey Wiker, the Black Ferns superstar, so they've got a
high profile there. They're spending farmers' money. Is it money
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well spent?
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Well, it feels like it's money. Well, it doesn't feel
like it's money well spent initially because it takes so
long to change those beliefs, Jamie. So there's nothing tangible
we can grasp it at the moment. But what the
Dare Australia presented at the conference was there over a
ten year period that increased the confidence from their urban
counterparts by more than twenty percent through the use of
this media and marketing. So there's something that we could
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really look into there, and I think, yep, that's money
we've spent for us right now, but maybe we need
to increase it and look at doing more with ambassadors
and not just putting out good stories in our rural sector,
but trying to put out the good stories in the
urban sector so that they can hear what we're doing too,
because we're not very effective at there at the moment.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I don't think, yeah, well, you couldn't get much better
ambassadors than the black ferns.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
No, they're awesome. They're awesome, So yeap, I reckon more
of that. Then, just keep channeling what we get that
positive information into the channels that people won't necessarily think
of Facebook and Instagram and the likes to change those opinions.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Now, I ask this of your brother, and I'll ask
it of you. I don't know whether you've caught up
on the story, Emmy. You're probably too busy to monitor
everything that's happening out there. But with there's a bit
of a shortage of beef and lamb in New Zealand,
the land of milk and honey. It's hard to believe,
isn't it.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
It's hard to believe when you go to the supermarket
and yeah, you're paying a fortune for a bit of lamb,
and like you said yourself, Jamie, if we poured some
of that back into the domestic market and yeah, whatever,
but tasty of food to eat, and that you actually
agree with you on that one.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Well, I feel sorry for the peorol sheep farmers, Emma.
They're getting six bucks of quilo with the tail wind.
And then someone's coming along and putting their product on
the shelves at thirty five exactly.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
And we've seen that we're eating some Australian pork while
we're over there and there pork was really tasty compared
to some of the stuff we get on the New
Zealand shelves. And that's because we import a lot of
our pork off the back of changing the fowering rules.
So we've got to be careful when we make those
changes at the long term effects of what actually ends
up on the shelf, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Exactly. The pork probably came from Canada or China or worse,
who knows. Hey, and just let me wrap it. We've
got the wonderful sound effects in the background of the
calves you're carving on the white Catto dairy. Tim was
just saying how well the season's going for him? What
about you?
Speaker 7 (18:05):
It's been a tough ten days of rain here. I
think I've missed most of it, Jamie. But for the
team in Ivon and why could it has been a
lot of rain, and yeah, a lot of metabolic issues
off the back of it, have been seeing around the place.
So the sun shining today and I think we've got
a few bit of fine whether ahead of us which
will help correct some of those issues. But there SEMs
to be plenty of grass about. We just need the
sunshine and toe.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Well metabolic issues. Do you know a good vet?
Speaker 7 (18:28):
Not a good one, but I know one.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Good on you, Emma Paul, Thank you very much for
being part of a Dungeon Zone panel in two parts.
Always good to catch up. Here's Jamie Yes, isn't she wonderful?
Twenty twenty three Young Farmer of the Year. What a
role model for young women in agriculture? Bang on twelve thirty.
I'm Jamie Mackay. This is the country brought to you
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by Brants. We are going to take a break on
the other side of it, will do rural news and
sports news. How good is the How good are the Olympics?
So brilliant. I think the Warriors are playing tonight as well.
We're going to talk to another couple of dynamic young
leaders in agriculture in Australasia, Tessa Chartress and Nancy Struggling
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with this Tessa Chartress and Nancy Crawshaw twenty twenty four,
Xander McDonald Award winners and someone I couldn't really describe
him as young, but he's pretty dynamic. I reckon think
Basa Sopa for the weekend politics. I've got some good
wool news for you as well. Catchy music as the
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Country goes Country on a Friday. Michelle Watt is in here.
She's been running around trying to organize phone systems that
don't work. Doing a marvelous job there, Michelle, even though
you failed miserably. No, no, it's not actually your fault.
It is not your fault.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Hey.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
I like your music selection going country on a Friday.
Speaker 9 (20:10):
I do research for this, actually, Jamie Well.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I'm very catchy. Sorry about the Kenny Loggins I threw
in there for the dunge and Zone. Who sings this one?
Dancing in the country.
Speaker 9 (20:20):
This is Tyler Hubbard, so American country music singer. But
they're all like you're saying before. It's very catchy, now,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Well when you cue a song up, you don't see
this because we're doing it during the ad break, folks.
But if you've never heard a song before, you can
que it up on our desk here and you can
immediately get the howk or the chorus. You know, you
know where it is. Some of these are I mean,
with a rap song, you wouldn't know, would you. You
don't hear much rap on the country, Thank god.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
No, we don't play any rap here.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
No oh Eminem. I make an exception for Eminem like
emin M, but generally we're not a rap station. That
would be fair to say.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
The country's world views with can't get at New Zealand's
leading right on lawnlower bread, visit steel for dot co,
dot said for your local stoggist.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
A Targo Regional Council says it's addressing the concerns around
costs involved with its proposed land and water plan. It's
received a letter from Environment Minister Penny Simmons, who's seeking
information around the costs. Federated Farmers O Targo has seen
reports suggesting the plan will cost more than one hundred
and ten million dollars for just two smaller Tago Towns
Council chair Gretchen Robertson says it's not a requirement of
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the plan to find out details of land based water
discharge costs. She says the council has been working on
a draft since twenty twenty and has consulted more than
fifty groups, including Federated Farmers.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Well, Penny Simmons. I went to primary school with Penny
and I'll tell you what. She's quite bossy. I hope
she watch out Otago Regional Council. All you wokest is there.
Penny's going to get you, get your walk, get your
act together, get it sorted. Oh my goodness, I'm grumpy
because the phones aren't working. Have you got any other
all news stories?
Speaker 9 (22:00):
We've got time for another one. I've got another one.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Well, I only have it's any good?
Speaker 9 (22:03):
Oh you know this one's quite good. We both like
her wine, don't we. Wineries could be in for a
big financial boost this summer. Amendments to the Sale and
Supply of Alcohol bell have passed their third reading in Parliament,
which gives sellar doors with one off licenses the option
to charge for tastings. Previously, samples are only able to
be given away for free, with wineries covering the entire costs.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Oh, where's the good news in that story. I've now
got to pay for your tasting anyhow, good luck to
the wineries. Let's do sport.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Sports with an av goo kiwi to the bone. Since
nineteen oh.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Four now, this has been one of the standouts from
the Olympics. I haven't seen much of it because I've
been out the last couple of nights unfortunately, but some
own Bials has shone on the floor in Paris, taking
a sixth career Olympic gold, but the Americans staying grounded
over whether she deserves to be rated as the best
athlete ever, athlete ever, best gymnast ever, but best athlete ever.
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Nah Biles is the most decorated gymnast in history and
is widely considered one of the greatest of all time
after winning a second all round gold, but the twenty
seven year old says it's crazy that she's in the
goat conversation greatest of all time and she's just Simone
Biles from Texas who loves to flip. She is wonderful
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and China, China. You've got to stop me saying that
I've been watching too much of Trump, and actually i
haven't because I've been watching the Olympics. I've got off
Fox TV. China leads the Paris medal table with eleven
gold medals. From the US is nine. New Zealand's up
to twelfth with two golds, two silvers and a bronze.
After last night's Golden Our for Kiwi rowers led by
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the women's double scullers Lucy Spores and Brook Francis winning gold.
How good was that race? How good were those supermums?
Already We've already spoken to a supermum in the form
of Emma Paul Wonderful Radio. Up next, if they're mums,
the young women in agriculture, We've got Tessa Chartress and
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Nancy Crawlshaw. They are the twenty twenty four Xander McDonald
Award winners Lead Bags Form in Ladam George.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Happy Window.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
So this week we've had the Xander MacDonald Award winners
for leaders, young entrepreneurs and agribusiness who are leading the
way in Australasia. We've got a New Zealand winner. Her
name is Nancy Crawlshaw. We've also got an Ossie winner.
Her name is Tessa Chartres. They've been in the country
this week having a look at all of our key
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agri businesses. If you want, Tessa, welcome to the country.
Welcome to our country. Have you had any time to
see some of those great Ossie swimmers in the Olympics
or have you been too busy touring New Zealand?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Probably the lad of Jamie To be honest, I've quite
a few of them. We've been keeping an eye on it.
Putty of Banter in camp here about the challenges between
metal count and all the above. So the rugby seven's
outcome was a bit of a hard one formula handle though,
but no good to see us coming back in the swimming.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, well, I'm glad we got to had a good
night at the rowing last night. We're slowly catching up
on the metal count. We've got a long way to go.
You've got some great swimmers. You must be a good swimmer,
are you, Tessa, Because I see that you're the general
manager of business development at Murray Irrigation. That's a huge river.
You go swimming up and down the length of that,
you'd get.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Pretty good Yeah, no, it's a very big gravity earth.
The irrigation channel system the biggest one in the Southern hemisphere,
so it's a pretty cool heater kit built back before
the kind of World War. And yeah, no, it's pretty
crucial to having sustainabilion in agriculture out and Southern Riverina
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of New South Wales.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
There there's a lot of controversy. And I know this
because I've got family living in Australia who have a
batch or they call a lot of shack. It's an
apartment basically on the banks of the Murray River. So
I do know quite a bit about the waterway and
I've studied it, but there's a lot of scrapping going
on over who gets to use the water.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, it's a really challenging space, Jamien. It's why I've
actually really come to love it. It's so important that
we balance the environment with agriculture and key use like
towns and stuff like that. So I'm an accountant by trade,
so finding myself in water policy and water accounting and
how we best share that resource that's so important in
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our communities and our economies has been something that I
really enjoyed. Trying to bring some solutions to the table
rather than having a scrub about it. So that's part
of what I'm doing in my role is rolling out
some upgrades to our infrastructure so that we can better
service the environment alongside irrigators more efficiently and kind of
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working together at that interface. So yeah, it's really enjoyable.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Now you've been touring a whole lot of key Aggrey businesses,
farms and even you've visited the Beehive where our Prime
Minister is domicoled on the ninth floor. I think you
and Nancy got to go up there on Wednesday. What
did you make of our PM?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, i'man incredible for him to make the time for us,
that's so special, and being a bit of a policy
nerd these days, it was incredible to have the opportunity
to speak on behalf of youth in agriculture and bridging
some relationships for Austraie New Zealand, which I think is
super important. But just to have the opportunity to speak
to him and the importance of the sector was just
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such a privilege. Was a great opportunity.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
One other highlight you can tell us about on your
week thus far, and I know you haven't finished yet
you're in Palmerston North today. I think you guys are
going to wind out your week in New Zealand and
the wonderful Wira Rapper. What else has been a highlight
for you? Tessa?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, I think, I mean, it's been full of highlights,
if I'm honest. We were at Frontera with Marles yesterday
and it really blew me away the innovation in the
concepts there. It was really eye opening and not something
that I was certainly privy too, but certainly I open
now and we'll be watching that really closely, and I
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think just it's been incredible to see what homegrown stuff
you've got here in New Zealand, just like MSD and
all the work that's going on in your own backyard.
It's just incredible and it's great to see. It's been
really inspirational.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Well, Tessa Chartress, it's been lovely to chat. Would you
mind just handing the phone over to your key week counterpartner,
Nancy crawl Shaw, Safe travels home.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
So there we go. That's Tessa Chartress. Let's see if
we can get Nancy on the other end of the phone.
Hello Nancy, but Jamie, how are you. Oh, I'm good.
How are you? What a great week you guys have had?
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Oh, it's been incredible, can't complain at all.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
I know you've been listening into what Tessa had to say.
It must have been a bit of a thrill to
go to the ninth floor of the Bee I've meet
the PM.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Can't say someone from newhak ever thought they'd be able
to get a pick it up to that floor. But
who knows what's been happen in Eggs Well.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
I think you're under selling yourself a week. But there, Nancy,
because you come from a well, I've got high achieving
families on the show full Stop today, I've already had
the Dungeons on the show, tim and of course Emma Paul.
But you come from a high achieving farming family as well.
Your brother was a finalist, wasn't he? And the Young
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Farmer of the Year as well.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Yes he was.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
What's been the highlight for you? I guess touring around
New Zealand is probably not as eye opening as it
is for Tessa because you'll have been to most of
these places, have you?
Speaker 5 (29:42):
No? Actually haven't.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Like for me, like I've spent in the last five
years over in Australia, so I've probably been a bit
more removed from the New Zealand agricultural industry, and I
don't think there's one take home, but a big thing
that I've been thinking about is like, when we're in agriculture,
we talk about so much as taking a step back
from working as the business to working on the business.
But this week's actually going to step back again to
actually instead of just thinking about your business, it's actually
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thinking about the whole agricultural industry as a whole in
New Zealand, and they're looking at our global markets and
how we can actually improve what we're doing and actually
get more competitive in those markets.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
You know, when you reference the fact that you haven't
spent much time in New Zealand recently, I probably should
have introduced you as the extension officer for Angus Australia
based in New Zealand, so you're obviously spending quite a
bit of time over there as well.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Yeah, probably I work on probably one to two weeks
a month, so it's probably a lot busier over there
at the start of the year, but it's definitely looking
more like one week a month for the rest of
the year, which will be a bit easy to get
round with the travel commitments.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
So what have been the highlights for you other than
the visit to the Beehive?
Speaker 6 (30:49):
I think Gilbert and Oka is like we've always in
New Zealand, like we're so passionate about the All Blacks
and seeing their success over the years, and actually meeting
the man behind it that's been involved in three one
hundred and four out of their six hundred and thirty
seven test matches, But just understanding how he looks at
things and just the skills he gave us to sort
of deal with the mindset s faith and actually putting
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structures around that to get the best out of our
performance was really fascinating. But it's also just been looking
at these companies we go and see, like you go
to Fonterra, you go to MBST, and just seeing the
amount of innovation that's actually happening on our back doorstep
that we probably don't know about. And those four thinkers
we have an agriculture and the sort of spaces that
they are looking at where we can really make a bit.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
More money in the years to come.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Good.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
That's actually been really fascinating.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Well, good stuff you're going to wind out your weekend.
As I said to Tessa in the wire, Wrapp a
good place to finish and being hosted by Matt and
Linley Wythe I think Matt's been your tour guide on
your jet plane around New Zealand, and of course the
great Shane mcmanaway, who actually was the founder of the
Xander McDonald Awards, so it'll be special going to spend
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some time at his place. And I can tell you
if you've never been to his farm before, Nancy, there
is not one blade of grass out of place. It
is perfect.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Yes, I'm looking forward to getting to matcha after getting
to know him really well this week and actually thinking
his brain, so really seeing what they're doing on the ground,
and also Shane's I haven't been there yet, but I'm
definitely looking forward to it. So I've heard a lot
about his property or what he's been doing on farm
as well, so that'd be pretty exciting.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Well, I hope you like Green John Dare tractors because
there's lots of them here to have a look at. Hey,
Nancy cross Or thank you very much for your time
and pass my best regards on to Tessa our safe
travels around the rest of his Zealand and back to
Australia when your head back chairs. Thanks Jamie, thank you,
and Nancy and Tessa. Wonderful. I've had some wonderful talent
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on the show today. This is Dirt Road and Girls
King and the King on Michelle. This sort of sounds
a wee bit rappy for our country Friday, doesn't it.
Speaker 9 (32:55):
It does, And she has really surprised me because it
is Jason Aldean. Now, those of you out there who
do know about country music, Jason Aldean, He's been around
for quite a while, probably since early two thousand, so yeah,
it kind of surprises me a little bit grein country
music singer though.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Well I don't know about this stuff. But anyhow, look
here's my good news wall story as promised for you is.
This is from Dave Burridge, PGG Rights and South Island
Auction Manager. So the second Wall sale of the season
source a strong seller's market with the largest single lift
in recent times for most cross bred styles strong aall
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indicator up twenty two cents, ninety seven percent clearance rate
and the commentary that goes with the sale says the
limited volume offering combined with a softer new Zealand dollar
against the greenback further underpinned the strong inquiry from the
buying bench. A nominal offering of Marino wall sold very
strongly compared to the close of the Australian sales last week.
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So that's good positive news on the wall front. Goodness
knows we need it up. Next Barry Soper.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yours to get off the road trips of Paul Wheels,
Jampolne and Aman say your friends will raise some here
with a black dots you.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
It's up to Gavern.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I need a favor and I holy preve.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
When will quite like that song? Who's it from? Michelle?
I'll turn your mic on? Who's that from? This?
Speaker 9 (34:22):
One? Is Jellybroll?
Speaker 4 (34:24):
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informative from my I've seen of it so far. Right,
Verry Soper raps the Country. Hey, Baz, Julian Jener. Has
she got off lightly?
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Oh? I think absolutely good, afternoon, Jamie. I think she's
got off very lightly when you consider that there were
so many options open to the Privileges Committee, and her
behavior in the House in May was like something I
had honestly never seen in my forty plus years covering
the debating chamber and looking down on them and see
(35:28):
what they do. I think the worst I ever saw
was somebody I believed through a ballpoint pen at Jeffrey
Palmer once and that was about as bad as it got.
But for Julian Jener to get out of his seat
go across the house almost spitting in Mark Doocy, the
Cabinet Minister's face, about something that she believed that he
had said and he believed was reprehensible behavior. She was
(35:52):
told by the Speaker to get back to a seat.
She did that, then apologized, but was right me sent
to the Privileges Committee what they could have done, Jamie,
and I think they should have done was suspended her
at least for a week on no pay, and they're
entitled to do that. But all she had to do
yesterday was get up, say I'm sorry, and that's it.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Hey. Now, I heard you speaking to Andrew Dickens yesterday
on Zby Drive about the ethnic based waiting lists, and
my goodness, Barer, you talked you were knocking on an
open door for me. Our hospital waiting list should be
on need, not race.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Oh, absolutely, Jamie. And it was a story that I broke,
and the information came from frustrated surgeons, and in fact
I got a list, the list that they had to use,
and it showed very clearly that if you were Malory
or Pacifica, you would jump well ahead of any Parkour,
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any other ethnicity, Chinese, Indian, you name it. They would
be lower down the list than Malori and Pacifica. And
we know that those two groups have been disadvantaged in
some way in the health system. But it should be
and this is what the surgeons believed, it should be
based on need. And you remember it calls a political firestorm.
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We had labor trying to defend it. The minister at
the time, Aischeverel. She got up and said that these
people have missed out in this time, that they got
to the front of the list. While I'm sorry the
surgeons they study for years to do what they do,
and they said they never studied to be told that
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depending on your ancestry, you'll get the operation first. So
fortunately it's been thrown out with the dishwater, and I'm
pleased about that.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Got on your bess. I haven't got really time for
you to comment on this. This is a yes or no.
What's better sporting theater, the paras Olympics or Donald Trumpet?
He at the Black Journalist's Conference that was comedy gold.
I got like twenty seconds.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
I totally agree. Have you seen the full interviews that
he had.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I've seen, I've seen. I've seen quite a bit of it.
I'm doing a bit less Fox TV now that the
Olympics are on, but I'll get back. He's the gift
that keeps on giving you of a great weekend, my friend, cheers, Jamie.
There we go, Berry Soper, wrapping the country for today.
As I said a week bit earlier, remember come back
and join us on Monday. We're going to yarn, to
matches and have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
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It's the Country podcast with Jamie McKay thanks to Brent
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's out to Gavin, need to favor.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
And I holy pray for my gar prayer.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
So who to hell them out? Who to hell the
am I to expect to save? He?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Oh dear bye hold It's out to Gavin. I needed
to favor me Cadainy's Ealand and welcome to the Country.
That could be my theme song for today. God, I
need a favor. Having a few phone issues today, We're
going to do our best to get through them. Technology
(00:50):
is wonderful. New technology is wonderful when it works. Hey, anyhow, well,
I'm going to kick off the show and I think
I've definitely got him on the blower on the other
end of it. Anyhow, Chris Brandolino Weather Guy. They've just
released their updated three month outlook. Very keen to see
what our weather guy on a Friday has to say
about that. We've got some dynamic young leaders on the
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show today in New Zealand, in fact, Australasian farming, primary
sector agri business, Emma Pool and Tim Danjon the Danjeon's
own panel, Tessa Chartres and Nancy Crawshaw the twenty twenty
four Xander McDonald Award win Is. They're on their tour
of duty around New Zealand at the moment. We're going
to try and track them down and Palmi North Barry
(01:32):
soaper on another fascinating week in politics, and I've actually
got some good wald news for you as well. So
that's good. We need some good world news. But let's
kick it off with our guy at Newa, Chris Brandelino NIWA.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Weather update with Lanco Trusted Animal Health Solutions.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yallah, I'm good. Have to do into u JM. Well
how are you?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'm not bad at all? Will I be the better
for hearing your just released update in three month outlook?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Just it depends on your needs and perspective. So I'll
let people I guess taking the information be the judge
and how they receive it. Look, here is the outlook
for the next three months. We think much of the
country going to have a warm ling. We're saying average
to above average temperatures as a whole. Now, look, the
next week is going to be pretty stink and chilly.
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Big Old High is going to move in over the
next several days, and we're going to find pretty cold mornings,
pretty chilly overnights, but that's not going to define the
next three months. In fact, Jamie, as we get to
about the tenth, the ninth, the eleventh of August, and
moving beyond that, for the month of August, it's going
to turn decidedly warmer. So this cold snap we're going
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to see is only for the first roughly you know,
six seven, eight days or so. Thereafter it gets much warmer,
so that is average to above average. This is August, September,
October as a whole, so it could be a warm
star to spring and for the upper North Island, so
the Wakata, Northland Auckland Bay of Plenty, we think there's
actually more confidence for warmer temperature, so we've gone straight
(03:09):
up above average for temperatures as a three month collective. Now,
for rainfall, it's gonna be quite dry for the first
probably two or three weeks. The exception Northland. You're gonna
get a good drop of rain this weekend into early Monday,
but pushing that aside, it is gonna be quite dry
for the next I would say two to three weeks late,
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say the last ten days of August or thereabouts, things
start to change. We could see much more active weather
and a better chance for rain. And that lead is
into a three month peria Jamie where rainfall is likely
to be either where it should be normal or wetter
than normal, above normal. And that's for the whole country.
So this dry start of August, we've had some really
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dry conditions this winter so far in parts of the country.
Hopefully we get some reprieve from that as you work
away into the end of August and beyond.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
So where was the bad news and all of that?
There wasn't any, was there?
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Well, I don't think so. Look, no, I guess if
you're a fan of average or above average temperatures and
rainfall that's near normal or above normal, you're sitting pretty
I sent that's a pretty good thing. Look, I have
a feeling I will say this spring I wouldn't be
The spring is always a very wild season. You get
these big swings of you know, really warm days, and
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even then he has some really cold temperatures. It's that
battle coming out of winter going into summer. But I
wouldn't be surprised because of an emerging li Nina. Because
of this sudden stratospheric warming we've heard about in the
pole Antarctica, we have some maybe even more of a
I guess spring on steroids. You know, some wild swings
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that are maybe even wilder than usual. So I think
that's one thing to be mindful of. There could be
some pretty dramatic swings as you work away through the
next three months, in particular the end of August into
actual spring to September and October.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Wow, we'd expect nothing else from Spring. She can be
a cruel mistress, Chris, the most unpredictable of the seasons.
Do you like that?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, that's a really good the mistress part that could
make some people uncomfortable.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Well, well not Donald Trump. Well, I don't know, We're good.
A moody three means no, I can't say. I can't
say any of that. I'm just sticking holes. No moody Spring,
the teenager of the season, pimples and all. Okay, Chris Brandoleno,
do really appreciate your time. You have a good a
good weekend, my friend, always do it. Do love your
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contribution here on the country.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Welcoming on you too, Jamie. Thanks brother.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
There we go. So Michelle loaded a whole lot of
country songs and we go country on a Friday here
on the country. This is I need a favor. I'm
not sure who it's from, but I'll do my homework.
During the commercial break, we are having a few technical
difficulties with our new studio, but that's my problem and
not yours. Up next, it's the Dungeon Zone panel. Emma
(06:10):
Paul I think she's just back from a speaking engagement
in Australia, and her older brother Tim Danjon. They were
the twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three respectively FMG
Young Farmers of the Year. Really looking forward to catching
up with Tessa Chartres and Nancy Crawshaw. They're the twenty
(06:30):
twenty four Zander McDonald Award winners. They're touring the country
at the moment on a private jet too, I might
add as a part of their prize. Barry Soper wrapping
yet another fascinating week in politics before the end of
the showger Well, it was going to be the Danon
(07:07):
Zone panel, but due to incompetence on behalf of our
phone system, I can only get one on at a time.
I'm sure the host doesn't have to put up with
this sort of technology anyhow, I'll do my best under
trying conditions. Tim Dangen is the first part of the
Dangeon Zone panel. Of course, he was the twenty twenty
two FMG Young Farmer of the Year. We'll get his
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sister Emma on shortly.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Tim.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Interesting. In the past week or so, we've we've been
doing a promotion for Meet the Need. Isn't that an
astounding number over two million meals since twenty twenty from
the Rural Food charity.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (07:45):
I think it's absolutely outstanding, Jamie. And it's interesting to
see that despite farmer conference being low over the last
year or so, that farmers are still willing to figure
of the pockets, you know, and try and fill this
deficit that we've got. We've got rough a million people
that are in need of food assistance throughout New Zealand,
and so I think it's it's awesome to see farmers
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using it as an opportunity to reach in and give
some food and give the opportunity for our consumers to
be able to tell our story for us, because we
know that they're the biggest advocates and the best people
to reach out and hear our fantastic story of what's
actually happening on the land.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
And we must support those stats. And I haven't got
them in front of me, just off the top of
my head, something like one and one in five families
at some time or other are suffering, you know, food poverty,
not having enough food in the fridge to feed the family.
It's tragic in the land of milk and honey. Do
you know what else I find tragic, Tim, And I
don't know whether you've caught up with this story, is
the fact that we've got a shortage of beef and
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lamb at the moment in this country, yet, especially when
it comes to lamb our farmers are being paid a
pittance for it.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
Yeah, we're battling with some structural difficulties here, aren't we,
When you know, there's obviously the deficit and from the
consumer base, and then farmers are battling financially as well
on the income side of the Liegers. So I'm not
sure what the solutions are to some of these big issues, Jamie.
But the more that we can talk about them, then well,
I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
This might sound like a dumb suggestion, Tim, but maybe
the meat companies. The big meat companies could look at
diverting more product to the domestic market and see if
they can make a week but more money for the farmers.
Maybe I'm just a wee bit grumpy today. Anyhow, I
want to talk about something that gave you great pleasure,
Tim Dangein, and that was the love and the sleepover
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with Federated Farmers and Labor. How did you get involved
in that one?
Speaker 8 (09:41):
I'm not so sure really, ma I suppose on grassroots
enough still that fed sort of saw value and having me.
Then I take my head off to Wayne and the
team for organizing because I think it's a fantastic initiative.
I know that Wayne tried to get it going with
the previous labor team but that they weren't interested. But
it's it's good to have the room there now, and
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it was a great opportunity just sort of voice where
I thought they went horribly wrong in the last election anyway,
and the trust that they eroded quite quickly. It was
positive to see that they did listen. So it would
be great to see if they take notes on what
was discussed and we'll see some positive action in that
space because we know that you know, this current government
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that we have won't last forever, and eventually labor will
get a turn to come back in. So it's making
sure that those relationships are in place so that when
they do come and we're not sort of blindsided like
we were last time.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
It was.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Yeah, it was a good day actually, and I think
it was positive overall. It was a little bit surprising
to see how naively where I suppose around some of
our issues and where we were coming from. But it
showed an obvious disconnection there that that can be solved,
I think, and it's just through communication. They need to
make sure that they're listening to us right from the
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very very get go, so that they don't come out
with unrealistic draft policy that in turn makes us as
farmers get our back up pretty quickly.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Well, I'll give Joe Luxton, their AGGS spokesperson, credit for
being a good listener anyhow, But I'm not worried it
so much about Labor. Yes, you're right, eventually the tide
will turn and eventually we will have a center left
government again. It's not Labor that worries me. It's their
two coalition partners, the Greens and to Party Maury activists,
not political parties in my humble opinion, just finish Tim
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before I try and get your sister on with how
the season's going on your West Auckland beef farm.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
Yeah, we're actually having a cracker, Jamie, So there's always
our thoughts go out to you the struggling regions that
are quite dry, particularly down down south and around Canbury
and that. But it's nice for you know why kadow
Up is that a great autumn winter. We've been very
fortunate with not too much raime but enough to keep
things sticking over, some nice warm temperatures and some fine days,
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so utilization has been great and it's good to get
a good one off the back of the cyclone and
then four droughts in the last five years. So it's
nice al turn Jamie.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Well, you certainly deserve it. Tim Dangeen twenty twenty two
FMG Young Farmer of the Year. I'm going to take
a break and I'm going to try and get your
sister on the other line. Sorry for not getting you
into the panel, but it's sort of a double Dangeine today,
so it's you know, they're getting value for money. The
punters out there listening. Go well, Tim, thanks for your time.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
No worry, Jamie, you'll make it work.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Well.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
As promise. We always get our man here on the country,
or in this case, our woman. Emma Paul joins us
twenty twenty three FMG Young Farmer of the Year and
sorry about the technical difficulties with the phone system Emma,
and you having to wait patiently while we chatted to
Tim to good to catch you now. You've just come
back from being a keynote speaker at a dairy conference
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in Australia. How do you manage that when you're carving
we can hear the calves in the background. And you're
a dairy farmer, you're a vet, and you've got two
young kids.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
Good afternoon, Jamie. And we were very fortunate to get
over there and head over to Australia and see what
they've got to offer. But yep, you're right, there was
tricky with two young kids in toe. But the key
was to chuck the grandparents on the flight with us
and leave the other set of grandparents and family here
running the farm. So we're pretty lucky to be surrounded
by family and helping us to get over there. But
I don't think I'll be jumping on a plane with
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two small children again anytime soon.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Well, what is it about you, Kiwi supermums? We had
the rowers last night that was fantastic and now you
so have you found Emma? Since you've been the young
Farmer and of course you were the first female Young
Farmer of the year, we know you're eloquent. You're a
good speaker, are you? Are you a hot property now
on the speaking circuit.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
I don't know about hot property, Jamie, but certainly heaps
of opportunity has come from winning that contest for me,
and one of them has been getting to travel around
visit oral communities and speak to people and share your opinions.
Which has probably been the best thing about the contest
is really the people that I've met as an outcome
of wanting so incredibly fortunate there, which is awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Now.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
When I dropped you a text yesterday and asked if
you'd go on the panel with your brother, even though
we haven't got you on together, you'd sent me a
text back and saying sure, And I said, what do
you want to talk about? You said, just the differences
between Australian support for farmers versus the key we outlook
off the back of the conference you were at, what
is the difference?
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Well, it's quite interesting gam me talking to the farmers
and more of the urban counterparts over there, that Australia
has done a really effective job at keeping the whole
country on board with what they're doing. As farmers, they
seem to have more generalized support in what we've noticed
in New Zealand that over probably the last decade that
we've sort of lost that sense of our connection to
our urban counterparts that are still there, but we need
(14:51):
to be mindful getting into the future. I think that
we remain connected to them. And one of the things
the Australians have done, or very Australian which is the
equivalent of darien Z over here, they've invested heavily in media,
in marketing to the urban people rather than just to
the rural sector, and that's been really effective at changing
the mindset and keeping people on board. So it would
(15:13):
be a good thing to replicate with darian Z over
here is to pull some of that funding into social
media and the likes. And I suspect our farmers would
kick up a fuss if they saw a whole lot
of money being poured into Facebook heads and the likes,
but we've got to look at the long term outcome here,
and we're looking to change views and opinions and beliefs
over a period of ten or more years.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Really.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah, well it's interesting commentary from you, Emma, because if
we look at the Olympics right now, and I've been
looking at nothing else fascinating, but Beef and Lamb are
the major sponsor there. They're obviously sponsoring the likes of
Stacey Wiker, the Black Ferns superstar, so they've got a
high profile there. They're spending farmers' money. Is it money
(15:54):
well spent?
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Well, it feels like it's money. Well, it doesn't feel
like it's money well spent initially because it takes so
long to change those beliefs, Jamie. So there's nothing tangible
we can grasp it at the moment. But what the
Dare Australia presented at the conference was there over a
ten year period that increased the confidence from their urban
counterparts by more than twenty percent through the use of
this media and marketing. So there's something that we could
(16:17):
really look into there, and I think, yep, that's money
we've spent for us right now, but maybe we need
to increase it and look at doing more with ambassadors
and not just putting out good stories in our rural sector,
but trying to put out the good stories in the
urban sector so that they can hear what we're doing too,
because we're not very effective at there at the moment.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I don't think, yeah, well, you couldn't get much better
ambassadors than the black ferns.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
No, they're awesome. They're awesome, So yeap, I reckon more
of that. Then, just keep channeling what we get that
positive information into the channels that people won't necessarily think
of Facebook and Instagram and the likes to change those opinions.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Now, I ask this of your brother, and I'll ask
it of you. I don't know whether you've caught up
on the story, Emmy. You're probably too busy to monitor
everything that's happening out there. But with there's a bit
of a shortage of beef and lamb in New Zealand,
the land of milk and honey. It's hard to believe,
isn't it.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
It's hard to believe when you go to the supermarket
and yeah, you're paying a fortune for a bit of lamb,
and like you said yourself, Jamie, if we poured some
of that back into the domestic market and yeah, whatever,
but tasty of food to eat, and that you actually
agree with you on that one.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Well, I feel sorry for the peorol sheep farmers, Emma.
They're getting six bucks of quilo with the tail wind.
And then someone's coming along and putting their product on
the shelves at thirty five exactly.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
And we've seen that we're eating some Australian pork while
we're over there and there pork was really tasty compared
to some of the stuff we get on the New
Zealand shelves. And that's because we import a lot of
our pork off the back of changing the fowering rules.
So we've got to be careful when we make those
changes at the long term effects of what actually ends
up on the shelf, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Exactly. The pork probably came from Canada or China or worse,
who knows. Hey, and just let me wrap it. We've
got the wonderful sound effects in the background of the
calves you're carving on the white Catto dairy. Tim was
just saying how well the season's going for him? What
about you?
Speaker 7 (18:05):
It's been a tough ten days of rain here. I
think I've missed most of it, Jamie. But for the
team in Ivon and why could it has been a
lot of rain, and yeah, a lot of metabolic issues
off the back of it, have been seeing around the place.
So the sun shining today and I think we've got
a few bit of fine whether ahead of us which
will help correct some of those issues. But there SEMs
to be plenty of grass about. We just need the
sunshine and toe.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Well metabolic issues. Do you know a good vet?
Speaker 7 (18:28):
Not a good one, but I know one.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Good on you, Emma Paul, Thank you very much for
being part of a Dungeon Zone panel in two parts.
Always good to catch up. Here's Jamie Yes, isn't she wonderful?
Twenty twenty three Young Farmer of the Year. What a
role model for young women in agriculture? Bang on twelve thirty.
I'm Jamie Mackay. This is the country brought to you
(18:53):
by Brants. We are going to take a break on
the other side of it, will do rural news and
sports news. How good is the How good are the Olympics?
So brilliant. I think the Warriors are playing tonight as well.
We're going to talk to another couple of dynamic young
leaders in agriculture in Australasia, Tessa Chartress and Nancy Struggling
(19:18):
with this Tessa Chartress and Nancy Crawshaw twenty twenty four,
Xander McDonald Award winners and someone I couldn't really describe
him as young, but he's pretty dynamic. I reckon think
Basa Sopa for the weekend politics. I've got some good
wool news for you as well. Catchy music as the
(19:52):
Country goes Country on a Friday. Michelle Watt is in here.
She's been running around trying to organize phone systems that
don't work. Doing a marvelous job there, Michelle, even though
you failed miserably. No, no, it's not actually your fault.
It is not your fault.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Hey.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
I like your music selection going country on a Friday.
Speaker 9 (20:10):
I do research for this, actually, Jamie Well.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I'm very catchy. Sorry about the Kenny Loggins I threw
in there for the dunge and Zone. Who sings this one?
Dancing in the country.
Speaker 9 (20:20):
This is Tyler Hubbard, so American country music singer. But
they're all like you're saying before. It's very catchy, now,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Well when you cue a song up, you don't see
this because we're doing it during the ad break, folks.
But if you've never heard a song before, you can
que it up on our desk here and you can
immediately get the howk or the chorus. You know, you
know where it is. Some of these are I mean,
with a rap song, you wouldn't know, would you. You
don't hear much rap on the country, Thank god.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
No, we don't play any rap here.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
No oh Eminem. I make an exception for Eminem like
emin M, but generally we're not a rap station. That
would be fair to say.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
The country's world views with can't get at New Zealand's
leading right on lawnlower bread, visit steel for dot co,
dot said for your local stoggist.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
A Targo Regional Council says it's addressing the concerns around
costs involved with its proposed land and water plan. It's
received a letter from Environment Minister Penny Simmons, who's seeking
information around the costs. Federated Farmers O Targo has seen
reports suggesting the plan will cost more than one hundred
and ten million dollars for just two smaller Tago Towns
Council chair Gretchen Robertson says it's not a requirement of
(21:31):
the plan to find out details of land based water
discharge costs. She says the council has been working on
a draft since twenty twenty and has consulted more than
fifty groups, including Federated Farmers.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Well, Penny Simmons. I went to primary school with Penny
and I'll tell you what. She's quite bossy. I hope
she watch out Otago Regional Council. All you wokest is there.
Penny's going to get you, get your walk, get your
act together, get it sorted. Oh my goodness, I'm grumpy
because the phones aren't working. Have you got any other
all news stories?
Speaker 9 (22:00):
We've got time for another one. I've got another one.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Well, I only have it's any good?
Speaker 9 (22:03):
Oh you know this one's quite good. We both like
her wine, don't we. Wineries could be in for a
big financial boost this summer. Amendments to the Sale and
Supply of Alcohol bell have passed their third reading in Parliament,
which gives sellar doors with one off licenses the option
to charge for tastings. Previously, samples are only able to
be given away for free, with wineries covering the entire costs.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Oh, where's the good news in that story. I've now
got to pay for your tasting anyhow, good luck to
the wineries. Let's do sport.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Sports with an av goo kiwi to the bone. Since
nineteen oh.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Four now, this has been one of the standouts from
the Olympics. I haven't seen much of it because I've
been out the last couple of nights unfortunately, but some
own Bials has shone on the floor in Paris, taking
a sixth career Olympic gold, but the Americans staying grounded
over whether she deserves to be rated as the best
athlete ever, athlete ever, best gymnast ever, but best athlete ever.
(22:59):
Nah Biles is the most decorated gymnast in history and
is widely considered one of the greatest of all time
after winning a second all round gold, but the twenty
seven year old says it's crazy that she's in the
goat conversation greatest of all time and she's just Simone
Biles from Texas who loves to flip. She is wonderful
(23:20):
and China, China. You've got to stop me saying that
I've been watching too much of Trump, and actually i
haven't because I've been watching the Olympics. I've got off
Fox TV. China leads the Paris medal table with eleven
gold medals. From the US is nine. New Zealand's up
to twelfth with two golds, two silvers and a bronze.
After last night's Golden Our for Kiwi rowers led by
(23:43):
the women's double scullers Lucy Spores and Brook Francis winning gold.
How good was that race? How good were those supermums?
Already We've already spoken to a supermum in the form
of Emma Paul Wonderful Radio. Up next, if they're mums,
the young women in agriculture, We've got Tessa Chartress and
(24:05):
Nancy Crawlshaw. They are the twenty twenty four Xander McDonald
Award winners Lead Bags Form in Ladam George.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Happy Window.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
So this week we've had the Xander MacDonald Award winners
for leaders, young entrepreneurs and agribusiness who are leading the
way in Australasia. We've got a New Zealand winner. Her
name is Nancy Crawlshaw. We've also got an Ossie winner.
Her name is Tessa Chartres. They've been in the country
this week having a look at all of our key
(24:40):
agri businesses. If you want, Tessa, welcome to the country.
Welcome to our country. Have you had any time to
see some of those great Ossie swimmers in the Olympics
or have you been too busy touring New Zealand?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Probably the lad of Jamie To be honest, I've quite
a few of them. We've been keeping an eye on it.
Putty of Banter in camp here about the challenges between
metal count and all the above. So the rugby seven's
outcome was a bit of a hard one formula handle though,
but no good to see us coming back in the swimming.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, well, I'm glad we got to had a good
night at the rowing last night. We're slowly catching up
on the metal count. We've got a long way to go.
You've got some great swimmers. You must be a good swimmer,
are you, Tessa, Because I see that you're the general
manager of business development at Murray Irrigation. That's a huge river.
You go swimming up and down the length of that,
you'd get.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Pretty good Yeah, no, it's a very big gravity earth.
The irrigation channel system the biggest one in the Southern hemisphere,
so it's a pretty cool heater kit built back before
the kind of World War. And yeah, no, it's pretty
crucial to having sustainabilion in agriculture out and Southern Riverina
(25:52):
of New South Wales.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
There there's a lot of controversy. And I know this
because I've got family living in Australia who have a
batch or they call a lot of shack. It's an
apartment basically on the banks of the Murray River. So
I do know quite a bit about the waterway and
I've studied it, but there's a lot of scrapping going
on over who gets to use the water.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, it's a really challenging space, Jamien. It's why I've
actually really come to love it. It's so important that
we balance the environment with agriculture and key use like
towns and stuff like that. So I'm an accountant by trade,
so finding myself in water policy and water accounting and
how we best share that resource that's so important in
(26:31):
our communities and our economies has been something that I
really enjoyed. Trying to bring some solutions to the table
rather than having a scrub about it. So that's part
of what I'm doing in my role is rolling out
some upgrades to our infrastructure so that we can better
service the environment alongside irrigators more efficiently and kind of
(26:52):
working together at that interface. So yeah, it's really enjoyable.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Now you've been touring a whole lot of key Aggrey businesses,
farms and even you've visited the Beehive where our Prime
Minister is domicoled on the ninth floor. I think you
and Nancy got to go up there on Wednesday. What
did you make of our PM?
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, i'man incredible for him to make the time for us,
that's so special, and being a bit of a policy
nerd these days, it was incredible to have the opportunity
to speak on behalf of youth in agriculture and bridging
some relationships for Austraie New Zealand, which I think is
super important. But just to have the opportunity to speak
to him and the importance of the sector was just
(27:34):
such a privilege. Was a great opportunity.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
One other highlight you can tell us about on your
week thus far, and I know you haven't finished yet
you're in Palmerston North today. I think you guys are
going to wind out your week in New Zealand and
the wonderful Wira Rapper. What else has been a highlight
for you? Tessa?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, I think, I mean, it's been full of highlights,
if I'm honest. We were at Frontera with Marles yesterday
and it really blew me away the innovation in the
concepts there. It was really eye opening and not something
that I was certainly privy too, but certainly I open
now and we'll be watching that really closely, and I
(28:14):
think just it's been incredible to see what homegrown stuff
you've got here in New Zealand, just like MSD and
all the work that's going on in your own backyard.
It's just incredible and it's great to see. It's been
really inspirational.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Well, Tessa Chartress, it's been lovely to chat. Would you
mind just handing the phone over to your key week counterpartner,
Nancy crawl Shaw, Safe travels home.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
So there we go. That's Tessa Chartress. Let's see if
we can get Nancy on the other end of the phone.
Hello Nancy, but Jamie, how are you. Oh, I'm good.
How are you? What a great week you guys have had?
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Oh, it's been incredible, can't complain at all.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
I know you've been listening into what Tessa had to say.
It must have been a bit of a thrill to
go to the ninth floor of the Bee I've meet
the PM.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Can't say someone from newhak ever thought they'd be able
to get a pick it up to that floor. But
who knows what's been happen in Eggs Well.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
I think you're under selling yourself a week. But there, Nancy,
because you come from a well, I've got high achieving
families on the show full Stop today, I've already had
the Dungeons on the show, tim and of course Emma Paul.
But you come from a high achieving farming family as well.
Your brother was a finalist, wasn't he? And the Young
(29:28):
Farmer of the Year as well.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Yes he was.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
What's been the highlight for you? I guess touring around
New Zealand is probably not as eye opening as it
is for Tessa because you'll have been to most of
these places, have you?
Speaker 5 (29:42):
No? Actually haven't.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Like for me, like I've spent in the last five
years over in Australia, so I've probably been a bit
more removed from the New Zealand agricultural industry, and I
don't think there's one take home, but a big thing
that I've been thinking about is like, when we're in agriculture,
we talk about so much as taking a step back
from working as the business to working on the business.
But this week's actually going to step back again to
actually instead of just thinking about your business, it's actually
(30:05):
thinking about the whole agricultural industry as a whole in
New Zealand, and they're looking at our global markets and
how we can actually improve what we're doing and actually
get more competitive in those markets.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
You know, when you reference the fact that you haven't
spent much time in New Zealand recently, I probably should
have introduced you as the extension officer for Angus Australia
based in New Zealand, so you're obviously spending quite a
bit of time over there as well.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Yeah, probably I work on probably one to two weeks
a month, so it's probably a lot busier over there
at the start of the year, but it's definitely looking
more like one week a month for the rest of
the year, which will be a bit easy to get
round with the travel commitments.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
So what have been the highlights for you other than
the visit to the Beehive?
Speaker 6 (30:49):
I think Gilbert and Oka is like we've always in
New Zealand, like we're so passionate about the All Blacks
and seeing their success over the years, and actually meeting
the man behind it that's been involved in three one
hundred and four out of their six hundred and thirty
seven test matches, But just understanding how he looks at
things and just the skills he gave us to sort
of deal with the mindset s faith and actually putting
(31:10):
structures around that to get the best out of our
performance was really fascinating. But it's also just been looking
at these companies we go and see, like you go
to Fonterra, you go to MBST, and just seeing the
amount of innovation that's actually happening on our back doorstep
that we probably don't know about. And those four thinkers
we have an agriculture and the sort of spaces that
they are looking at where we can really make a bit.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
More money in the years to come.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Good.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
That's actually been really fascinating.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Well, good stuff you're going to wind out your weekend.
As I said to Tessa in the wire, Wrapp a
good place to finish and being hosted by Matt and
Linley Wythe I think Matt's been your tour guide on
your jet plane around New Zealand, and of course the
great Shane mcmanaway, who actually was the founder of the
Xander McDonald Awards, so it'll be special going to spend
(31:56):
some time at his place. And I can tell you
if you've never been to his farm before, Nancy, there
is not one blade of grass out of place. It
is perfect.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Yes, I'm looking forward to getting to matcha after getting
to know him really well this week and actually thinking
his brain, so really seeing what they're doing on the ground,
and also Shane's I haven't been there yet, but I'm
definitely looking forward to it. So I've heard a lot
about his property or what he's been doing on farm
as well, so that'd be pretty exciting.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Well, I hope you like Green John Dare tractors because
there's lots of them here to have a look at. Hey,
Nancy cross Or thank you very much for your time
and pass my best regards on to Tessa our safe
travels around the rest of his Zealand and back to
Australia when your head back chairs. Thanks Jamie, thank you,
and Nancy and Tessa. Wonderful. I've had some wonderful talent
(32:44):
on the show today. This is Dirt Road and Girls
King and the King on Michelle. This sort of sounds
a wee bit rappy for our country Friday, doesn't it.
Speaker 9 (32:55):
It does, And she has really surprised me because it
is Jason Aldean. Now, those of you out there who
do know about country music, Jason Aldean, He's been around
for quite a while, probably since early two thousand, so yeah,
it kind of surprises me a little bit grein country
music singer though.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Well I don't know about this stuff. But anyhow, look
here's my good news wall story as promised for you is.
This is from Dave Burridge, PGG Rights and South Island
Auction Manager. So the second Wall sale of the season
source a strong seller's market with the largest single lift
in recent times for most cross bred styles strong aall
(33:31):
indicator up twenty two cents, ninety seven percent clearance rate
and the commentary that goes with the sale says the
limited volume offering combined with a softer new Zealand dollar
against the greenback further underpinned the strong inquiry from the
buying bench. A nominal offering of Marino wall sold very
strongly compared to the close of the Australian sales last week.
(33:54):
So that's good positive news on the wall front. Goodness
knows we need it up. Next Barry Soper.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yours to get off the road trips of Paul Wheels,
Jampolne and Aman say your friends will raise some here
with a black dots you.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
It's up to Gavern.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I need a favor and I holy preve.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
When will quite like that song? Who's it from? Michelle?
I'll turn your mic on? Who's that from? This?
Speaker 9 (34:22):
One? Is Jellybroll?
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Of course I knew, I knew that right. Just to
we message from Farmstrong before we wrap it with Barry Soper.
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well should, I say? Is about taking care of yourself.
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what works for you and lock it and talking about
the top Paddock. We're going to be talking to Matchism
on Monday's show. Another book out, very very entertaining, an
informative from my I've seen of it so far. Right,
Verry Soper raps the Country. Hey, Baz, Julian Jener. Has
she got off lightly?
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Oh? I think absolutely good, afternoon, Jamie. I think she's
got off very lightly when you consider that there were
so many options open to the Privileges Committee, and her
behavior in the House in May was like something I
had honestly never seen in my forty plus years covering
the debating chamber and looking down on them and see
(35:28):
what they do. I think the worst I ever saw
was somebody I believed through a ballpoint pen at Jeffrey
Palmer once and that was about as bad as it got.
But for Julian Jener to get out of his seat
go across the house almost spitting in Mark Doocy, the
Cabinet Minister's face, about something that she believed that he
had said and he believed was reprehensible behavior. She was
(35:52):
told by the Speaker to get back to a seat.
She did that, then apologized, but was right me sent
to the Privileges Committee what they could have done, Jamie,
and I think they should have done was suspended her
at least for a week on no pay, and they're
entitled to do that. But all she had to do
yesterday was get up, say I'm sorry, and that's it.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Hey. Now, I heard you speaking to Andrew Dickens yesterday
on Zby Drive about the ethnic based waiting lists, and
my goodness, Barer, you talked you were knocking on an
open door for me. Our hospital waiting list should be
on need, not race.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Oh, absolutely, Jamie. And it was a story that I broke,
and the information came from frustrated surgeons, and in fact
I got a list, the list that they had to use,
and it showed very clearly that if you were Malory
or Pacifica, you would jump well ahead of any Parkour,
(36:51):
any other ethnicity, Chinese, Indian, you name it. They would
be lower down the list than Malori and Pacifica. And
we know that those two groups have been disadvantaged in
some way in the health system. But it should be
and this is what the surgeons believed, it should be
based on need. And you remember it calls a political firestorm.
(37:16):
We had labor trying to defend it. The minister at
the time, Aischeverel. She got up and said that these
people have missed out in this time, that they got
to the front of the list. While I'm sorry the
surgeons they study for years to do what they do,
and they said they never studied to be told that
(37:36):
depending on your ancestry, you'll get the operation first. So
fortunately it's been thrown out with the dishwater, and I'm
pleased about that.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Got on your bess. I haven't got really time for
you to comment on this. This is a yes or no.
What's better sporting theater, the paras Olympics or Donald Trumpet?
He at the Black Journalist's Conference that was comedy gold.
I got like twenty seconds.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
I totally agree. Have you seen the full interviews that
he had.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I've seen, I've seen. I've seen quite a bit of it.
I'm doing a bit less Fox TV now that the
Olympics are on, but I'll get back. He's the gift
that keeps on giving you of a great weekend, my friend, cheers, Jamie.
There we go, Berry Soper, wrapping the country for today.
As I said a week bit earlier, remember come back
and join us on Monday. We're going to yarn, to
matches and have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
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