February 20, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Chris Brandolino, Emma Poole, Tim Dangen, Chris Russell, Jeremy Rookes, and Barry Soper.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie mckaye. Thanks to Brent, You're specialist in
John Deere construction equipment.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Tell Me, Tell You.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Money, Get a New Zealand Welcome to the Country. It's
brought to you by Brandt Michelle Chuckton The Big Songs
from nineteen ninety nine for today's show and no surprise
boy bands were to the four kicking the show off
up for us today opening the batting or on his
(00:47):
case facing the first pitch. Chris Brandolino from neware getting
seriously dry and of our North Island especially a lot
of the country's quite dry. Actually, we'll see what we
can do rain wise. We're going to talk to a
couple of dry North Island farmers climatically not personality wise.
Emma Paul and Tim Dangen. It's the Dangeon Zone panel.
(01:09):
Brother and sister, both former Young Farmers of the Year.
Chris Russell's our Ossie correspondent, mister Muse today going to
get him today. He's got a great story about tinder
for cattle and a Queensland teacher who got the sack
for identifying as a cat so she should have Jeremy
Rooks will let our lifestyle farming corresponded off the chain
and Barry Soper, Gee, what an interesting week it's been
(01:31):
in politics. But let's rip into it with Chris Brandolino
from newa Chris, I looked daily at your drought index map.
It's the North Island's in trouble.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah, dire straits in terms of lack of rainfall. We've
had a very dry February and that off the heels
of a very dry January. And while we're looking at
by where the New Zealand drought Index is meteorological drought
in parts of northern and eastern Telanaki, parts of the
northern Manawatu, in southwest Waikato and around that area of
meteorological drought, there is a pretty extensive area of extremely
(02:05):
dry condition. So that's kind of one step below that
meteorological drought designation or by guess condition, and there is
dryness that extend all the way up to the Kaipra,
western and southwest Northland, as well as a good chunk
of Auckland and down toward the Wellington area. So it
is dry man and unfortunately we are not seeing any
(02:26):
strang signals from meaningful rain. Yes, you know, a bit
of rain today, Jammie. I'm just looking at the radar
and there are some pretty beefy showers right now approaching
New Plymouth from the west and northwest and they're on
toll Madranui. But look, this is you know, if you're
a billion dollars in the hole, Sure a thousand dollars
scratchy is great, but you need more. And unfortunately, after today,
(02:50):
it doesn't look very good in terms of rainfall.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Prospect forewarned is forearmed. And I know that you've been
talking to EMPI. I think so serious when they start
talking to you so or advised to farmers who maybe
sitting on the fence and hoping things come right in
terms of drynesses, probably act now, is it?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yeah, do what you gotta do to you know, to look.
Try to imagine yourself in a situation where there has
been maybe some very minimal improvement today, that's good, But
what happens if there's very little rain after today for
the next week to two weeks, maybe longer. I'm not
saying there'll be zero rain, but you know, we got
to remember this is something to keep in mind. I'm
(03:30):
sure farmers are aware of this. This time of the year,
we're still losing anywhere from four to as much as
five or six millimeters per day to the atmosphere potential
eve appo transferration ra so pets. So just you know,
let's take the middle of the road. Let's take five
millimeters and over ten days, that's fifty millimeters of moisture.
So if you don't get fifty millimeters of rain in
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ten days or thereabouts, you're you know, you're you're not
breaking even so we're not going to see a lot
of rain. I think the next ten days will be
lucky for areas in the UH in parts of the
I guess let's say Tetanaki and Waikato and Manawa two.
If you're lucky, you may get ten, fifteen, twenty millimeters
of rain. But a lot of that's actually going to
(04:14):
come today, so the drying has continue. So think about
what happens on farm when conditions like this have happened
in the past. And this is the dry as it's
been right now. I've looked at some of the drought
in decease going back to twenty twenty, so the last
time it was this dry or worse was February twenty
twenty in New Plymouth and parts of Tetanaki some places
maybe a few years back now five, So you know,
(04:37):
think back maybe to that time what happened on farm
and think about, you know, what was your response in
doing that again and maybe doing things differently if things
didn't work out for you. So yeah, and unfortunately as
it working to March, it doesn't look much better. Look
drying its will be a theme. High pressure is going
to basically take up shop over pretty much the entire country.
(04:59):
In North Island. We'll these constant would call ridge replacements.
So a ridge comes in from the Tasmin, it sets
up shop, it does drift east, and when it does
drift east, that's our little window to get a little
rang with the front in and then we get another
high coming in replacing that that ridge replacement. So that
pattern looks to kind of prevail right through the first
week ten days of March at least.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Chris Brandalino, thanks for your time. It is twelve after
twelve on the Country, brought to you by Brent Okay
talking about the dry and the North Island. We're going
to chat to a couple of North Island Farmers Up
next on the Country, Emma Paul broke the grass ceiling
in twenty twenty three when she became the first female
Young Farmer of the Year, following in the footsteps of
(05:40):
our older brother Tim Dangin, who won the twenty twenty
two Young Farmer Grand Final. Before the end of the Hour,
Chris Russell, Jeremy Rooks, Mary Sober.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Danger.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Danger Family time. Now on the Country, it's the Dungeon Panel. Yes,
brother and sister, both former Young Farmers of the Year.
Tim Dangeen twenty twenty two, Emma Paul twenty twenty three.
I want to start with weather and track conditions because
you're both in the Upper North Island. Emma, let's start
with you in the Dairy Powerhouse province also known as
(06:36):
the Waikato.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Yeah, Jamie, good afternoon and good to be here.
Speaker 7 (06:40):
It's pretty dry underfoot.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
There's a few slightly greener areas in the way, Kido
who looked over yesterday on some of those peak farms,
you're holding on a bit better. But over here in
Premiere we are certainly very dry and we're pretty much
full time feeding animals all day.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Tim, you're a beef farmer West Auckland, MIRROUI there, how
are you failing fearing? Should I say? I'm sure you're
feeling okay, but how are you faring?
Speaker 8 (07:06):
I'm feeling great, mate, don't even worry about that. But yeah,
we're very dry up here now. Luckily though, we had
a fantastic spring and we're actually really going through December
and early January, so there's seen plenty of supple supplement made,
so I think farmers are in pretty good steads start
feeding a fair bit of that out now, but it's
certainly browned off and we're probably about as burned as
the dinner that I cooked for my wife last night.
(07:27):
I'd say, okay.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Fonterra's come out with a few announcements today. It's that
the earnings guidance for the dividends going to be in
the upper half, so that's good news. And they've revised
the milk forecast collections upper wee bit to fifteen hundred
and ten million kilograms of milk solids, which you wonder
whether that or last as the season dries out. But
(07:49):
the other announcement earlier in the week, Emma Paul was
the fact that if you were a low if you
had a lower missions profile, you could you could get
a week cash bonus. Are you going to get one
on your pharm Yeah?
Speaker 6 (08:00):
It's interesting, isn't it, Jamien. There's a little bit too
unpeck around. That announcement is really two parts. In the
first part I quite like. In the second part I've
got a few grievances with. But the first part is
that you know, the Mars and Neslo fronted up with
a genuine premium, which is awesome because farmers have been
asking for that for a long time. And that genuine
(08:21):
premium is going to go towards around five thousand farmers
they think, which is around half of the co op,
isn't it in a one to five cents manner? Which
is relatively low, but it's still not nothing.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And some of the we'll hang on. It's less than
half a percent on a ten dollar payout, so it's
next to nothing, and I'm not belittling it. It's small beginnings,
but I think the more meaning take you, Yok, you'll
take it. The more meaningful one is the ten to
twenty five cents of kilogram premium, But only three percent
of Fonterra farmers are going to get it. Are you
going to get that one.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
No, we're unlikely to get that one, Jamien. That's because
we are high input fun and we have a lot
of bought in feed onto our farm, which comes with
a missions costs, doesn't it. So this system's probably going
to suit farms that have a high amount of home
ground feed. So some areas of the country have a
few levers that they can pull when it gets dry
that we can't here in the way, Kedder. I can't
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just run out and turn my irrigator on and start
growing feed. I'm going to have to buy some feed
in the gates. So that's where this modeling it's really tricky, Jamien.
It's going to be quite segregating for our farmers. But
I'm picking a lot of those farms that receiving that
premium are going to come from the Canterbury region where
they can go grass when no one else can. And
you know, good on those farmers and great news for them,
(09:34):
but it's sort of ironic that, you know, Canterbury in
the past five to ten years has received a lot
of pressure around how those farms have been managed in
terms of the environment. So it's interesting for us to
be going forward labeling them as our most you know,
environmentally sustainable farms, when if you look.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
At the history, or if urban people got hold of.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Their information and they compare what they've seen in the
media in the past, how's that going to stack up
for us?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
What about the carbon footprint of using the electricity or
the energy to put the water on the pastures in Canterbury?
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Well, yeah, you'd think that the carbon footprint.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
We've got a lot of renewable energy sources in New Zealand,
so I'd say that that sort of cancels itself out.
But you've certainly got to be concerned about some of
if irrigation is done inappropriately and.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Some of those nutrients are leached into the waterways.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Which Canterbury has done a fantastic job of getting on
top of those issues, and but I still think there's
work to be done there.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Jane, Well, our energy is renewable, yes, but we're burning
coal from Indonesia. Genesis and Co are talking about burning
more and more coal as we run out. We can't
guarantee our renewable energy. So oh, I don't know about
that one. What do you make of it? Tim, You're
a learned man.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
I think Ultimately, it is actually a good news story, Joie.
I think that Fronterra have managed to go out and
find these customers that are willing to pay this premium
because they think that they can obviously pass it on
to the consumers at the other end. So we always
talk about being able to sell our story and show
the data and behind our production, and so they've been
able to monetize it. So I think it is good.
(11:05):
I just hope that it doesn't segregate farmers too much,
and depending on you know, some of their land uses
and things like that, it could be a little bit
divisive and tmas find around. Yeah, Canibury, but I'd argue
that there's parts of Taranaki and southam that can grow
just as good a grass as can be without the
mission's profile of running the irrigators.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
So let's go back to Mars and Nesle Emma Paul.
Is this a bit of green washing from them or
is this Geniue.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
I think it's genuine, Jamie. And I was lucky enough
to talk to some of the Mars constituent when they
came over to New Zealand eighteen months ago, and they
actually set us down as a group of farmers and
said what do you need to be more sustainable, and
pretty much everyone answered saying, we need more money to
do what you're asking. So they've fronted up with more
money and a lot of that money, well half of
that money is going to go towards on farm solutions,
(11:54):
which it sounds like eighty seven percent of Fontier farmers
are going to be able to access. So that's things
like yone's testing. So you could imagine that, you know,
if we could reduce yone's on farms in the impact
that has for our animal health, which is just amazing.
But I'd like to see Fontier do more of a
concentrated effort. I've been on here about removing BBD from
New Zealand before Jamie and I think that would be
(12:16):
a really good place for Fontierra to put some of
these funds, is to concentrate on removing a singular disease,
because I think BBD has about a production impact with
around one hundred and fifty million dollars in New Zealand,
so that there could be a good sector in doublin
your export the other you.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Couldn't it spoken like a true vet. Tim the farmer
confidence survey out this week from Federated Farmers. No surprise there.
If they're not the farmers aren't happy this year, they'll
never be.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
Happy exactly, Jamien. It'll be really interesting to see the
survey later on mid year, because I think the conference
levels will only go up, up and up from here.
But it's really positive to see that things are starting
to turn around. Obviously high commodity prices and falling into
straight to front of mine, but I just thought it
was interesting to see that regulation and policy is still
(13:03):
the biggest concern for farmers. You know, although we've got
a government that's largely aligned with the sector and they're
out there slashing big time, it still sits front of mind.
And I think that's largely because we're worried about a
changing government that when it will come, which will eventually,
we're just going to see a big pendulum swing again.
And so I think it's really important that our industry
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good bodies represent us really well with opposition parties and
that we stay engage with them so that yeah, we're
well across all the topics of the day, and that
we make sure they're well informed on what we are
doing on farm and the things that we're working towards.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Well, good luck dealing with to party Mari and the
Greens on that one, guys. Anyhow, that's just a week
comment from me. You can't say that you'd get in
trouble some Dan jin Ema Paul, thanks for being our
panelist today and clarifying some of that information, especially you
am around those lower emissions premiums for farmers. Interesting chat.
Speaker 8 (13:59):
Hey, good day, Thanks guys.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I will twenty four after twelve year with the country.
Michelle all update rural news for you shortly, will update
the fruit fly situation. We've got another pesky one in Auckland.
It's a block though, that's the good news. Up next
to our Ossie correspondent Chris Russell, we're going to tell
you how you can win some great prizes from Eco Lab.
Barry Sober, Jeremy Rock's all before the end of the.
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Speaker 3 (14:42):
He's our bloke across the Ditch's name is Chris Russell,
based out of Sydney. Now you're running out of eggs
over there. You're a bit like the Americans, Chris, Well, we.
Speaker 9 (14:50):
Are and you know, we've got a combination of things,
of course, and nothing we knew about bird flu and
the millions of chalks that have been slaughtered to try
and limit that to the areas where it happens. But
the other problem we've got is that we're phasing out
caged eggs, even though we've increased the size of the cages.
(15:11):
You know, we're phasing them out, and supermarket changs like Woolworths,
Coles and Aldi are going to phase them out by
this year. Now. The Victorians are claiming.
Speaker 10 (15:22):
Well, we need to slow that down. We can't afford
to do it.
Speaker 9 (15:25):
I go into Coals or Wallis now and I'd say
eighty percent of the time there are zero eggs on
the shelf. And yet you can go into other places
and providing you're happy to take caged eggs, you can
always get them. So they're calling for those bands. The
whole of Australia is supposed to be cage egg free
by twenty thirty six, and the egg producers say, let's
let's just have our same moment here, a little bit
(15:47):
like the rush to missions free electricity. Until we've got
this sort of out, we need to just calm down
a little bit and not worry too much about it.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, my sister's a chuck lady and she'll hate me
saying this. Hopefully she's not listening. But honestly, sometimes I reckon,
we get carried away with animal welfare, and I'll get
in trouble with animal welfare people as well. But have
you got to prioritize in life? Is it hens or
is it kids going to school hungry? What's your priority?
Speaker 11 (16:13):
I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 9 (16:15):
And I also think that we're kind of construing what
we like to do for chucks.
Speaker 11 (16:22):
I know with barn laid chucks.
Speaker 9 (16:24):
You know, they now cut holes in the side of
the barns and let the trucks go out of the
barn so they can be free range, because they perceive
the trucks are happier when they wander around outside. But
actually about two and a half percent of the trucks
bother to go out through the doors. They want to
be in the sawdust insigne nice and warm with all
their mates.
Speaker 11 (16:41):
You know, this whole animal sentience thing is just out of.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
Control, and it's another example of wokeism in our society.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Oh, we'll get told off for that one, Chris.
Speaker 11 (16:50):
Thats all the time.
Speaker 9 (16:51):
I'm used to it.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well, of course, in back in our day, back and
our day, we're starting like to sound like the two
old guys from the Muppets. Back in our day, there
was no tender, Chris. You had to go to the
pub or the sports club and do the hard yards there.
But tender's apparently working well in a remote cattle area
in Australia.
Speaker 11 (17:08):
Yes, well, they're trying to come these remote areas. Of
course they only see.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Their cattle maybe once or twice a year, so they're
putting all these remote area cameras on water holes and
watering points where these cattle turn up as to be
able to work out calves and cows and also other
animals and also keep track of any signs of any diseases,
particularly reportable diseases like foot in mouth or lumpy skin.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
Disease or those of diseases. Now they've developed a nap
now which they say is tinder for cows.
Speaker 11 (17:40):
So you look at the footage.
Speaker 9 (17:41):
Of the cows which comes into you from these various
remote locations, and you swipe left for calves and you.
Speaker 11 (17:48):
Swipe right for cows and anything.
Speaker 9 (17:51):
The disease gets swiped left and then you can relook
at the left things. And it actually was developed from
the tinder type app, part from the fact that the
app used to previously have problems in working out what
was a pig and what was a cow, and that's
why they're now looking at it.
Speaker 11 (18:09):
It's now turned out to.
Speaker 9 (18:10):
Be something that's been quite useful for farmers and keeping
track of their animals.
Speaker 11 (18:13):
So who'd have thought it tender for cows?
Speaker 12 (18:15):
Jamie.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, well, let's continue on with the back in our
day theme. And back in our day, people identified, especially
Aussies as blokes or sealers. Now you can identify as
all sorts of things, including if you want a cat
or a furry.
Speaker 13 (18:31):
Yeah, well, you know, I mean this is definitely in
my what planet is this again? File when I read
about this miss Purr at Brisbane Marsden State High School.
Speaker 11 (18:42):
Up near Brisbane, because she.
Speaker 14 (18:44):
Apparently identifies as a cat and is said to have
been hissing a student so licking the back of their hands,
and you know, she sits on all fours at the
front of the room. Can you imagine the images of
a teacher wearing a black and white cat here headband
in class and seeing their pairing.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
Anyway, Look, she's been given the flick now, I think,
which she's definitely But you know, when I was reading
about this and researching this, there's actually been a conference
of these theories over in Europe.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
So look, you know, I remember the experiment we did
at school where we put a whole bunch of mice
in a shoe box to see what would happen when
they were overcrowded, and I think they all went loopy. Well,
I think that's happening in our world, because the more
I read these stories, I'm thinking, I'm really not quite
sure whether you know what's overtaken our genetics here in
this world, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Well, I'm glad you and I identify as blugs. Chris Russell,
we'll chat again next week.
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Speaker 3 (19:53):
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Speaker 15 (20:38):
You throw me under the bus of this question, Jamie,
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Speaker 3 (20:41):
In this convers I certainly you certainly wouldn't identify as
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Speaker 15 (20:45):
I think it'd be a hard life as a cat,
to be honest, I'm not sure if that's stand in wide.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Pick teaching runs in my family veins. They're everywhere, and
I hear stories about kids these days in schools who
are identifying as cats. No, well, no, don't say it.
Don't say it seriously. Not I'm talking to me, not
to you there, But why would you let a kid
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Speaker 13 (21:14):
Oh?
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Who knows? It's a different world. Now Jamie, you've just
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Yeah, it is all.
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fruitfly situation in Auckland, will have a look at sport.
Before the end of the hour, our resident lifestyle correspondent
out of Canterbury, Jeremy Rooks, will let him off the chain,
(22:50):
and Barry Soper on politics. Welcome back to the Country.
It's brought to you by Brandt very shortly the latest
in rural news and sports news. But if you're worried
(23:10):
about facial XM, and I know a lot of farmers are,
you're not alone. This disease continues to be a problem
here in New Zealand and the usual management strategies just
aren't cutting it. That's exactly why Rowena sat down with
doctor Emma Cuttens, an epidemiologist and expert in animal health,
to get to the bottom of it. Their chat has
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Speaker 13 (24:20):
Is it now?
Speaker 15 (24:21):
You're really throwing back? She was in the other one.
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We'll find that out because this is important girl band information.
In the meantime, we've got a fruit fly to sort out.
So here's the latest and rural news to.
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Speaker 15 (24:44):
Biosecurity, New Zealand has now placed legal controls on the
movement of fruit and vegetables and the Auckland suburb of
Birkdale and nearby areas on the north Shore following the
detection of a single male oriental fruit fly, the horticultural
peaest was found in one of Biosecurity New Zealand National
surveillance traps, which are placed in fruit trees and residential backyards.
(25:04):
Other traps in the area checked in recent days show
no signs of other flies and our initial and their
initial investigations have found no sign the signs to date,
so we'll keep you updated on that one. And just
another story that I found just out of interest, Jamie,
you've heard of the weight loss drug o OZM pic.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Is that a hint?
Speaker 12 (25:21):
Is it?
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No?
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No, I'm just I'm not even listening to you, Michelle
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Speaker 15 (25:30):
Much more important.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, well, it's just annoying me. Now hang on, you.
Speaker 15 (25:34):
Carry on, you gonna come on with my story. So
this drug obviously is a famous weight lots drug in
the States at the moment, used by a lot of
rich and famous people. Now, a guy called Jack Bobo,
who's head of the University of California, Los Angeles and
the Rothman Family Institute of Food Science has highlighted how
much an impact of this rate loss drug could be
felt in the next five years and in relation to
(25:55):
our global food supply systems and climb and he thinks
it could be more of an issue than climate change
on air food production from farms, just because people are
obviously maybe eating less with the stroke. So it's a
really interesting story. You can find more at the country
dot co dot z.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Of course of greater interest as I've found out who
was in telse so important? Thank you for ure well
Lisa left Di Lopez who did a duet with Elci
didn't she right? She died unfortunately, but there was Tioni
Watkins and Risonda Thomas. What interesting names there You go.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Sport with a avco Kiwi to the bone since nineteen
oh four.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
I wonder what Jeremy Rooks identifies as.
Speaker 15 (26:37):
Are we going to find out next?
Speaker 9 (26:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
We will not a cat. He could identify as a Swede,
a Swede plant, not a Swedish person as in the
plant ken We boxer Joseph Parker. I will have to
wait for his latest heavyweight World heavyweight title shot after
British IBF belt holder Daniel Dubois Withdrew Fillness. Parker will
(27:01):
now fight Congo's Martin Baccoli at short notice in Sunday
mornings fight in Saudi Arabia. The thirty three year old
is welcoming the new challenge, saying it's all part of
the journey and let's get it on. Tiger Woods has
joined the Player Advisory Council chair Adam Scott and PGA
Tour Commissioner Jay Monahan in a second White House meeting.
(27:24):
The move is another sign of golf tracking towards an
end of the division brought about by the Saudi funded
Live circuit. So the Trumpster, I think, wants to bring
together the PGA and Live Golf. Interesting times. Up next
Jeremy Rooks before the end of the hour, Barry Soper.
(28:02):
I bet our next guest love the Backstreet Boys back
in ninety nine because he is larger than life. Just
to have a look at him. Jeremy Rook's our lifestyle correspondent, Jesse,
what do you identify as awesome? That wasn't the answer.
I got a text and from my old mate Steu
Duncan I won't name where the kid's from, but he
(28:22):
said there's a kid identifying as a fox.
Speaker 12 (28:25):
Oh, just it's nonsense. I mean, it's just ridiculous. And
this wait ideology that's sweet the world but is being destroyed.
Thankfully in America allows all this rubbish and the sort
of carry on still is still allowed under this government,
which is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I blame I blame the parents for letting kids they
can identify as a cat when they're eighteen and they
leave home. Actually, Jeremy, just because you're sort of also,
and I'll just bear with me. I'll give you a
wee bit of Backstreet Boys for a moment, just fair way, fairwell.
And the reason is I got a text and from
somebody all there all going nuts on cats, here's a
(29:03):
text because you're sort of our resident carbon farmer as well.
Forestry companies are still buying land class one to four
farms for forestry and carbon credits. They are giving the
middle finger to government policy and plowing on another thirty
thousand stock units went last week. It's corrupt, says Dean.
What are you hearing?
Speaker 12 (29:24):
Yeah, I know there's quite a few places still going
into forestry. I'm not sure whether it's carbon or not.
But and I know there's been transactions including our old
place has already been on sold by the guys that
brought it in to buy pass the OIO. Now that
they're anything that's planted is now candidis existing forestry, so
(29:46):
New Zealand companies can still buy it and then flicking
on in a year or two times. So that's probably
the next issue that's going to come up about intention.
About intention, Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Mean, to be fair, if you were planting in forestry now,
you're definitely doing it for the carbon credits. Forestry per
se is not that flash at the moment. It will be.
It's still our fourth biggest export industry and good luck
to it. But the carbon credits are the cherry on top.
Speaker 12 (30:12):
Yeah. Possibly, but I've never really I don't understand carbon credits.
I never have, so I'm not really the right kind
of talk to about that now. Honestly, it just doesn't
hit them. And how you can trade air is just nonsense.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, okay, well what about that? I shouldn't even ask
you because I know what your answer will be. That
the Paris Climate Accord, Where do you sit on that?
Should we be in or out of it?
Speaker 12 (30:34):
Well, out of course. And you do realize that we
were one of only thirteen countries out of one hundred
and ninety five original signatories that have re signed the
Sierra Rule, and the government are so proud of themselves
and you're going, we'll hang on to one hundred and
eighty two countries haven't re signed or they've left, So
what on earth are we done? It is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
It was interesting hearing. I don't know whether you heard
him midweek. I thought he offered really good commentary on
up Bruce Kottrell. He said we need to be out
of it. He said the price, the price tag for
staying in is just too expensive for New Zealand.
Speaker 12 (31:08):
Well everybody knows that. I mean, it's just common sense
where we can't afford it and sort of come on
and go, oh, we're protecting our farmers by actually costing
the country thirty billion. I mean, there's that any sort
of logical argument from the government. I don't think it is.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
You have been critical in recent times of our Prime
Minister Christopher Luxe and why.
Speaker 12 (31:27):
Oh, I just find him he's just we're all, you know,
look less, he's Donald Trump as the example, he's coming
to power with saying what he's going to do, and
he's gone and he smashed into the inefficial bureaucracy and
the wofery and jiggery pokery that goes on. And we
have a prime minister here who puts these ridiculously stupid
social media posts up trying to sort of impressive run
(31:49):
by going till that growth, growth, growth, growth, growth. I
mean that's their message. He's got no message. We just
want to get on and do something to change, so
you would.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
You would sooner he was like Trump and make up
an absolute lie about who started the Russian Ukraine War.
Speaker 12 (32:02):
Oh well, we're not going to get go down that one.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
But not Trump. Trump's done some Trump Trump's done some
good things, Jeremy, but he's also told some bar faced lies.
Speaker 12 (32:12):
I'm not talking about an international policy. I'm talking about
what he's doing domestically and what what meants to this country, Jamie,
is what has done domestically, and Trump's as I said,
Trump's election has given legitimacy for around the world. Now
for leads to stand up because the silent majority of
people all behind the scenes and go, oh, we need
to get rid of all this race based stuff. We
(32:33):
need to get rid of us puberty blockers. We need
to get rid of this what you know, thealytical diversity
equity implsions. Everyone knows it, and yet Lackson won't stand
up and go, ll this is this is what we're
going to do. I mean, you've just seen the public
sect the report come out from Sir Brian Roach, and
I mean that's only the start of it. But nothing's changing.
Nothing has changed in the culture. You look at all
(32:53):
the job ads coming out in government departments and you
tell me that things are right in this country, Well
they're not. He's got to people want leadership at the moment.
That's what they want, and lux is not projecting it.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
I just got a text in jess New Plymouth Girls
High School and this is I take it. Have many
girls who are identifying as cats, have even got litter
trays and the toilets for them. What's the world coming to, Jeremy.
Speaker 12 (33:19):
Well, this is, of course yeah, but it's the Ministry
of Education or be going. Well, that's fine. And then
of course the the principles are all white. Now the
two AFAI to just go this is nonsense, like it's
just nuts. I mean, you know, I'm a guy for
bringing back boys and girls and caning as well. I
love the caning action consequence.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Then well you still you still do, don't you? What
do you mean like a wee bit of caning but
the but a Peter Plumley.
Speaker 12 (33:46):
Walker only anniversaries birthdays?
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Jim, good on you mate, I've got to go thank
you for adding a bit of levity to our Friday.
There we go, Jeremy Rights and please take that in
the good the jest in which it was intended. We're
going to take a break on the other side of it.
Barry Soaper to wrapper. Just remember if you want to
win the thousand dollars worth of Eco Lab products from
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the thousand dollars cash, it's live now. Just go to
our website Thecountry dot co dot nz. Dezi you believe
when I Okay, Just before we wrap the show with
Barry Soaper, we'd like to give a shout out this
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week to the sixth annual game of cricket between the
Horticulture Growers and the Dairy Farmers and the bay are Plenty.
Sunday's match will be a great excuse to get off
catch up with mates and have some fun as well
as share a few Farmstrong resources. Best of luck to
both teams and thanks to Steven cross And for all
this great work making it happen. For more ideas on
(34:52):
how to live well and farm well, head to the
Farmstrong website this weekend farmstrong dot co dot nz and
find out what works for you. And Locket and Eddie
Barry sober? Do you can you believe that in new
Plymouth Girls High School has litter trays in the girl's
toilets And I hope I'm not speaking out of turn here.
(35:14):
Apologies to New Plymouth Girls High School if indeed you
haven't got litter trays. But it's a worrying accusation.
Speaker 16 (35:21):
Well, have they got an infestation of cats or something?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
No, people people identifying as cats. Chris Russell, their assie correspondent,
started it, telling us the story about the Aussie teacher
who got sacked for identifying as a cat because she
was licking the back of the hands to some of
the pupils.
Speaker 16 (35:39):
Well, I guess you know we've got a river that
identifies as a human being.
Speaker 12 (35:43):
Yes, that's river.
Speaker 16 (35:44):
So impossible these days, Jamie, you don't have to be binary.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
As Christopher Luxon, or actually, should I say as Winton
Winston identifying himself as a Prime minister.
Speaker 16 (35:58):
Well, you know that's the nature of coalition politics, isn't
it that you have sniping from the sidelines. And imagine
what it must be like for Chris Luxon. I often
think you know that he is a former chief executive
of an airline that whatever he said go or went
(36:18):
these days, whatever he says is debated and that must
be particularly frustrating in his position, but that's the nature
of the job that he took on. Unfortunately, I think
Winston is much more acquiescent though than what David Seymour
is that Winston, even though he's behaved, misbehaved in the
(36:38):
House this week about art r and New Zealand and
relating it to the Mexican standoff that they've got with
Riccardo Menendez March. You know, politics has got quite silly
this week. I've got to say, Jomie.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Hey, yeah, I'll tell you someone who's a standout, and
you've got to give it to a full of longevity
is old or shouldn't say old, same age as me
Judith Collins.
Speaker 16 (37:04):
Oh yeah, no, And she was having a bit of
a laugh about being menopausal. This week, I'll tell you
what I heard her being interviewed this morning about these
Chinese warships.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yes, Sarah off the coast.
Speaker 16 (37:15):
Of Sydney at the moment. One of them is one
of the biggest warships in the world. And you'd have
to say, yet again, diplomacy the Chinese. You would think
that they would have told New Zealand and indeed Australia
as to what they're doing there. But you know, I
don't think we're permanently going to be torpedoed by the Chinese.
(37:39):
But nevertheless, you know, it's a bit of a worry, all.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Right, barrying the other one, and you probably haven't got
time for comment on this one. With mothballed Mars and
Portant now we're going to build a new refinery, then
go figure that one out. Bas Have a great weekend, mate,
nice to talk to you.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
To that.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
There we go, Barry Sober wrapping the country for the
week we've got. We're going to our Highlanders here in
Dunedin against the Blues on Saturday. The Highlanders. We'll catch
you back on Monday.
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Money, Get a New Zealand Welcome to the Country. It's
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boy bands were to the four kicking the show off
up for us today opening the batting or on his
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case facing the first pitch. Chris Brandolino from neware getting
seriously dry and of our North Island especially a lot
of the country's quite dry. Actually, we'll see what we
can do rain wise. We're going to talk to a
couple of dry North Island farmers climatically not personality wise.
Emma Paul and Tim Dangen. It's the Dangeon Zone panel.
(01:09):
Brother and sister, both former Young Farmers of the Year.
Chris Russell's our Ossie correspondent, mister Muse today going to
get him today. He's got a great story about tinder
for cattle and a Queensland teacher who got the sack
for identifying as a cat so she should have Jeremy
Rooks will let our lifestyle farming corresponded off the chain
and Barry Soper, Gee, what an interesting week it's been
(01:31):
in politics. But let's rip into it with Chris Brandolino
from newa Chris, I looked daily at your drought index map.
It's the North Island's in trouble.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah, dire straits in terms of lack of rainfall. We've
had a very dry February and that off the heels
of a very dry January. And while we're looking at
by where the New Zealand drought Index is meteorological drought
in parts of northern and eastern Telanaki, parts of the
northern Manawatu, in southwest Waikato and around that area of
meteorological drought, there is a pretty extensive area of extremely
(02:05):
dry condition. So that's kind of one step below that
meteorological drought designation or by guess condition, and there is
dryness that extend all the way up to the Kaipra,
western and southwest Northland, as well as a good chunk
of Auckland and down toward the Wellington area. So it
is dry man and unfortunately we are not seeing any
(02:26):
strang signals from meaningful rain. Yes, you know, a bit
of rain today, Jammie. I'm just looking at the radar
and there are some pretty beefy showers right now approaching
New Plymouth from the west and northwest and they're on
toll Madranui. But look, this is you know, if you're
a billion dollars in the hole, Sure a thousand dollars
scratchy is great, but you need more. And unfortunately, after today,
(02:50):
it doesn't look very good in terms of rainfall.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Prospect forewarned is forearmed. And I know that you've been
talking to EMPI. I think so serious when they start
talking to you so or advised to farmers who maybe
sitting on the fence and hoping things come right in
terms of drynesses, probably act now, is it?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yeah, do what you gotta do to you know, to look.
Try to imagine yourself in a situation where there has
been maybe some very minimal improvement today, that's good, But
what happens if there's very little rain after today for
the next week to two weeks, maybe longer. I'm not
saying there'll be zero rain, but you know, we got
to remember this is something to keep in mind. I'm
(03:30):
sure farmers are aware of this. This time of the year,
we're still losing anywhere from four to as much as
five or six millimeters per day to the atmosphere potential
eve appo transferration ra so pets. So just you know,
let's take the middle of the road. Let's take five
millimeters and over ten days, that's fifty millimeters of moisture.
So if you don't get fifty millimeters of rain in
(03:53):
ten days or thereabouts, you're you know, you're you're not
breaking even so we're not going to see a lot
of rain. I think the next ten days will be
lucky for areas in the UH in parts of the
I guess let's say Tetanaki and Waikato and Manawa two.
If you're lucky, you may get ten, fifteen, twenty millimeters
of rain. But a lot of that's actually going to
(04:14):
come today, so the drying has continue. So think about
what happens on farm when conditions like this have happened
in the past. And this is the dry as it's
been right now. I've looked at some of the drought
in decease going back to twenty twenty, so the last
time it was this dry or worse was February twenty
twenty in New Plymouth and parts of Tetanaki some places
maybe a few years back now five, So you know,
(04:37):
think back maybe to that time what happened on farm
and think about, you know, what was your response in
doing that again and maybe doing things differently if things
didn't work out for you. So yeah, and unfortunately as
it working to March, it doesn't look much better. Look
drying its will be a theme. High pressure is going
to basically take up shop over pretty much the entire country.
(04:59):
In North Island. We'll these constant would call ridge replacements.
So a ridge comes in from the Tasmin, it sets
up shop, it does drift east, and when it does
drift east, that's our little window to get a little
rang with the front in and then we get another
high coming in replacing that that ridge replacement. So that
pattern looks to kind of prevail right through the first
week ten days of March at least.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Chris Brandalino, thanks for your time. It is twelve after
twelve on the Country, brought to you by Brent Okay
talking about the dry and the North Island. We're going
to chat to a couple of North Island Farmers Up
next on the Country, Emma Paul broke the grass ceiling
in twenty twenty three when she became the first female
Young Farmer of the Year, following in the footsteps of
(05:40):
our older brother Tim Dangin, who won the twenty twenty
two Young Farmer Grand Final. Before the end of the Hour,
Chris Russell, Jeremy Rooks, Mary Sober.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Danger.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Danger Family time. Now on the Country, it's the Dungeon Panel. Yes,
brother and sister, both former Young Farmers of the Year.
Tim Dangeen twenty twenty two, Emma Paul twenty twenty three.
I want to start with weather and track conditions because
you're both in the Upper North Island. Emma, let's start
with you in the Dairy Powerhouse province also known as
(06:36):
the Waikato.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Yeah, Jamie, good afternoon and good to be here.
Speaker 7 (06:40):
It's pretty dry underfoot.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
There's a few slightly greener areas in the way, Kido
who looked over yesterday on some of those peak farms,
you're holding on a bit better. But over here in
Premiere we are certainly very dry and we're pretty much
full time feeding animals all day.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Tim, you're a beef farmer West Auckland, MIRROUI there, how
are you failing fearing? Should I say? I'm sure you're
feeling okay, but how are you faring?
Speaker 8 (07:06):
I'm feeling great, mate, don't even worry about that. But yeah,
we're very dry up here now. Luckily though, we had
a fantastic spring and we're actually really going through December
and early January, so there's seen plenty of supple supplement made,
so I think farmers are in pretty good steads start
feeding a fair bit of that out now, but it's
certainly browned off and we're probably about as burned as
the dinner that I cooked for my wife last night.
(07:27):
I'd say, okay.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Fonterra's come out with a few announcements today. It's that
the earnings guidance for the dividends going to be in
the upper half, so that's good news. And they've revised
the milk forecast collections upper wee bit to fifteen hundred
and ten million kilograms of milk solids, which you wonder
whether that or last as the season dries out. But
(07:49):
the other announcement earlier in the week, Emma Paul was
the fact that if you were a low if you
had a lower missions profile, you could you could get
a week cash bonus. Are you going to get one
on your pharm Yeah?
Speaker 6 (08:00):
It's interesting, isn't it, Jamien. There's a little bit too
unpeck around. That announcement is really two parts. In the
first part I quite like. In the second part I've
got a few grievances with. But the first part is
that you know, the Mars and Neslo fronted up with
a genuine premium, which is awesome because farmers have been
asking for that for a long time. And that genuine
(08:21):
premium is going to go towards around five thousand farmers
they think, which is around half of the co op,
isn't it in a one to five cents manner? Which
is relatively low, but it's still not nothing.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And some of the we'll hang on. It's less than
half a percent on a ten dollar payout, so it's
next to nothing, and I'm not belittling it. It's small beginnings,
but I think the more meaning take you, Yok, you'll
take it. The more meaningful one is the ten to
twenty five cents of kilogram premium, But only three percent
of Fonterra farmers are going to get it. Are you
going to get that one.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
No, we're unlikely to get that one, Jamien. That's because
we are high input fun and we have a lot
of bought in feed onto our farm, which comes with
a missions costs, doesn't it. So this system's probably going
to suit farms that have a high amount of home
ground feed. So some areas of the country have a
few levers that they can pull when it gets dry
that we can't here in the way, Kedder. I can't
(09:12):
just run out and turn my irrigator on and start
growing feed. I'm going to have to buy some feed
in the gates. So that's where this modeling it's really tricky, Jamien.
It's going to be quite segregating for our farmers. But
I'm picking a lot of those farms that receiving that
premium are going to come from the Canterbury region where
they can go grass when no one else can. And
you know, good on those farmers and great news for them,
(09:34):
but it's sort of ironic that, you know, Canterbury in
the past five to ten years has received a lot
of pressure around how those farms have been managed in
terms of the environment. So it's interesting for us to
be going forward labeling them as our most you know,
environmentally sustainable farms, when if you look.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
At the history, or if urban people got hold of.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Their information and they compare what they've seen in the
media in the past, how's that going to stack up
for us?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
What about the carbon footprint of using the electricity or
the energy to put the water on the pastures in Canterbury?
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Well, yeah, you'd think that the carbon footprint.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
We've got a lot of renewable energy sources in New Zealand,
so I'd say that that sort of cancels itself out.
But you've certainly got to be concerned about some of
if irrigation is done inappropriately and.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Some of those nutrients are leached into the waterways.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Which Canterbury has done a fantastic job of getting on
top of those issues, and but I still think there's
work to be done there.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Jane, Well, our energy is renewable, yes, but we're burning
coal from Indonesia. Genesis and Co are talking about burning
more and more coal as we run out. We can't
guarantee our renewable energy. So oh, I don't know about
that one. What do you make of it? Tim, You're
a learned man.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
I think Ultimately, it is actually a good news story, Joie.
I think that Fronterra have managed to go out and
find these customers that are willing to pay this premium
because they think that they can obviously pass it on
to the consumers at the other end. So we always
talk about being able to sell our story and show
the data and behind our production, and so they've been
able to monetize it. So I think it is good.
(11:05):
I just hope that it doesn't segregate farmers too much,
and depending on you know, some of their land uses
and things like that, it could be a little bit
divisive and tmas find around. Yeah, Canibury, but I'd argue
that there's parts of Taranaki and southam that can grow
just as good a grass as can be without the
mission's profile of running the irrigators.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
So let's go back to Mars and Nesle Emma Paul.
Is this a bit of green washing from them or
is this Geniue.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
I think it's genuine, Jamie. And I was lucky enough
to talk to some of the Mars constituent when they
came over to New Zealand eighteen months ago, and they
actually set us down as a group of farmers and
said what do you need to be more sustainable, and
pretty much everyone answered saying, we need more money to
do what you're asking. So they've fronted up with more
money and a lot of that money, well half of
that money is going to go towards on farm solutions,
(11:54):
which it sounds like eighty seven percent of Fontier farmers
are going to be able to access. So that's things
like yone's testing. So you could imagine that, you know,
if we could reduce yone's on farms in the impact
that has for our animal health, which is just amazing.
But I'd like to see Fontier do more of a
concentrated effort. I've been on here about removing BBD from
New Zealand before Jamie and I think that would be
(12:16):
a really good place for Fontierra to put some of
these funds, is to concentrate on removing a singular disease,
because I think BBD has about a production impact with
around one hundred and fifty million dollars in New Zealand,
so that there could be a good sector in doublin
your export the other you.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Couldn't it spoken like a true vet. Tim the farmer
confidence survey out this week from Federated Farmers. No surprise there.
If they're not the farmers aren't happy this year, they'll
never be.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
Happy exactly, Jamien. It'll be really interesting to see the
survey later on mid year, because I think the conference
levels will only go up, up and up from here.
But it's really positive to see that things are starting
to turn around. Obviously high commodity prices and falling into
straight to front of mine, but I just thought it
was interesting to see that regulation and policy is still
(13:03):
the biggest concern for farmers. You know, although we've got
a government that's largely aligned with the sector and they're
out there slashing big time, it still sits front of mind.
And I think that's largely because we're worried about a
changing government that when it will come, which will eventually,
we're just going to see a big pendulum swing again.
And so I think it's really important that our industry
(13:24):
good bodies represent us really well with opposition parties and
that we stay engage with them so that yeah, we're
well across all the topics of the day, and that
we make sure they're well informed on what we are
doing on farm and the things that we're working towards.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Well, good luck dealing with to party Mari and the
Greens on that one, guys. Anyhow, that's just a week
comment from me. You can't say that you'd get in
trouble some Dan jin Ema Paul, thanks for being our
panelist today and clarifying some of that information, especially you
am around those lower emissions premiums for farmers. Interesting chat.
Speaker 8 (13:59):
Hey, good day, Thanks guys.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I will twenty four after twelve year with the country.
Michelle all update rural news for you shortly, will update
the fruit fly situation. We've got another pesky one in Auckland.
It's a block though, that's the good news. Up next
to our Ossie correspondent Chris Russell, we're going to tell
you how you can win some great prizes from Eco Lab.
Barry Sober, Jeremy Rock's all before the end of the.
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Speaker 3 (14:42):
He's our bloke across the Ditch's name is Chris Russell,
based out of Sydney. Now you're running out of eggs
over there. You're a bit like the Americans, Chris, Well, we.
Speaker 9 (14:50):
Are and you know, we've got a combination of things,
of course, and nothing we knew about bird flu and
the millions of chalks that have been slaughtered to try
and limit that to the areas where it happens. But
the other problem we've got is that we're phasing out
caged eggs, even though we've increased the size of the cages.
(15:11):
You know, we're phasing them out, and supermarket changs like Woolworths,
Coles and Aldi are going to phase them out by
this year. Now. The Victorians are claiming.
Speaker 10 (15:22):
Well, we need to slow that down. We can't afford
to do it.
Speaker 9 (15:25):
I go into Coals or Wallis now and I'd say
eighty percent of the time there are zero eggs on
the shelf. And yet you can go into other places
and providing you're happy to take caged eggs, you can
always get them. So they're calling for those bands. The
whole of Australia is supposed to be cage egg free
by twenty thirty six, and the egg producers say, let's
let's just have our same moment here, a little bit
(15:47):
like the rush to missions free electricity. Until we've got
this sort of out, we need to just calm down
a little bit and not worry too much about it.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, my sister's a chuck lady and she'll hate me
saying this. Hopefully she's not listening. But honestly, sometimes I reckon,
we get carried away with animal welfare, and I'll get
in trouble with animal welfare people as well. But have
you got to prioritize in life? Is it hens or
is it kids going to school hungry? What's your priority?
Speaker 11 (16:13):
I think that's exactly right.
Speaker 9 (16:15):
And I also think that we're kind of construing what
we like to do for chucks.
Speaker 11 (16:22):
I know with barn laid chucks.
Speaker 9 (16:24):
You know, they now cut holes in the side of
the barns and let the trucks go out of the
barn so they can be free range, because they perceive
the trucks are happier when they wander around outside. But
actually about two and a half percent of the trucks
bother to go out through the doors. They want to
be in the sawdust insigne nice and warm with all
their mates.
Speaker 11 (16:41):
You know, this whole animal sentience thing is just out of.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
Control, and it's another example of wokeism in our society.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Oh, we'll get told off for that one, Chris.
Speaker 11 (16:50):
Thats all the time.
Speaker 9 (16:51):
I'm used to it.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well, of course, in back in our day, back and
our day, we're starting like to sound like the two
old guys from the Muppets. Back in our day, there
was no tender, Chris. You had to go to the
pub or the sports club and do the hard yards there.
But tender's apparently working well in a remote cattle area
in Australia.
Speaker 11 (17:08):
Yes, well, they're trying to come these remote areas. Of
course they only see.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Their cattle maybe once or twice a year, so they're
putting all these remote area cameras on water holes and
watering points where these cattle turn up as to be
able to work out calves and cows and also other
animals and also keep track of any signs of any diseases,
particularly reportable diseases like foot in mouth or lumpy skin.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
Disease or those of diseases. Now they've developed a nap
now which they say is tinder for cows.
Speaker 11 (17:40):
So you look at the footage.
Speaker 9 (17:41):
Of the cows which comes into you from these various
remote locations, and you swipe left for calves and you.
Speaker 11 (17:48):
Swipe right for cows and anything.
Speaker 9 (17:51):
The disease gets swiped left and then you can relook
at the left things. And it actually was developed from
the tinder type app, part from the fact that the
app used to previously have problems in working out what
was a pig and what was a cow, and that's
why they're now looking at it.
Speaker 11 (18:09):
It's now turned out to.
Speaker 9 (18:10):
Be something that's been quite useful for farmers and keeping
track of their animals.
Speaker 11 (18:13):
So who'd have thought it tender for cows?
Speaker 12 (18:15):
Jamie.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, well, let's continue on with the back in our
day theme. And back in our day, people identified, especially
Aussies as blokes or sealers. Now you can identify as
all sorts of things, including if you want a cat
or a furry.
Speaker 13 (18:31):
Yeah, well, you know, I mean this is definitely in
my what planet is this again? File when I read
about this miss Purr at Brisbane Marsden State High School.
Speaker 11 (18:42):
Up near Brisbane, because she.
Speaker 14 (18:44):
Apparently identifies as a cat and is said to have
been hissing a student so licking the back of their hands,
and you know, she sits on all fours at the
front of the room. Can you imagine the images of
a teacher wearing a black and white cat here headband
in class and seeing their pairing.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
Anyway, Look, she's been given the flick now, I think,
which she's definitely But you know, when I was reading
about this and researching this, there's actually been a conference
of these theories over in Europe.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
So look, you know, I remember the experiment we did
at school where we put a whole bunch of mice
in a shoe box to see what would happen when
they were overcrowded, and I think they all went loopy. Well,
I think that's happening in our world, because the more
I read these stories, I'm thinking, I'm really not quite
sure whether you know what's overtaken our genetics here in
this world, Jamie.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Well, I'm glad you and I identify as blugs. Chris Russell,
we'll chat again next week.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
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Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah, thanks, Chris. It is twenty eight away from one
years the country brought to you by Brand Michelle. Good afternoon.
You've chucked in the biggest songs from nineteen ninety nine.
Earlier in the week we played the big Songs from
nineteen seventy nine when Winston went into politics. I think
this was the biggest song of nineteen seventy nine. Sheer
(20:15):
sure share shirt chare either either and believe it.
Speaker 15 (20:20):
Was definitely one of the biggest, depending on which Billboard
thing you look at. But Millennium by Backstreet Boys is
actually the biggest album of nineteen ninety nine, which I
was shocked.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
By, because can't beat a boy band. Friday now good
Bellclouther girl in Bell CLOUTHI you'd either identify as a
bloke or Ashiela, wouldn't you?
Speaker 15 (20:38):
You throw me under the bus of this question, Jamie,
I don't know if I want to take part.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
In this convers I certainly you certainly wouldn't identify as
a cat.
Speaker 15 (20:45):
I think it'd be a hard life as a cat,
to be honest, I'm not sure if that's stand in wide.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Pick teaching runs in my family veins. They're everywhere, and
I hear stories about kids these days in schools who
are identifying as cats. No, well, no, don't say it.
Don't say it seriously. Not I'm talking to me, not
to you there, But why would you let a kid
(21:10):
identify as a cat at school?
Speaker 13 (21:14):
Oh?
Speaker 15 (21:14):
Who knows? It's a different world. Now Jamie, you've just
got to accept it.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, it is all.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
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Before the end of the hour, our resident lifestyle correspondent
out of Canterbury, Jeremy Rooks, will let him off the chain,
(22:50):
and Barry Soper on politics. Welcome back to the Country.
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TLC from nineteen ninety nine, No scrubs and I think
(24:14):
Lisa left eye low peers. Michelle's nodding was in tl C,
wasn't she who's the lead singer?
Speaker 13 (24:20):
Is it now?
Speaker 15 (24:21):
You're really throwing back? She was in the other one.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
We'll find that out because this is important girl band information.
In the meantime, we've got a fruit fly to sort out.
So here's the latest and rural news to.
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Speaker 15 (24:44):
Biosecurity, New Zealand has now placed legal controls on the
movement of fruit and vegetables and the Auckland suburb of
Birkdale and nearby areas on the north Shore following the
detection of a single male oriental fruit fly, the horticultural
peaest was found in one of Biosecurity New Zealand National
surveillance traps, which are placed in fruit trees and residential backyards.
(25:04):
Other traps in the area checked in recent days show
no signs of other flies and our initial and their
initial investigations have found no sign the signs to date,
so we'll keep you updated on that one. And just
another story that I found just out of interest, Jamie,
you've heard of the weight loss drug o OZM pic.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Is that a hint?
Speaker 12 (25:21):
Is it?
Speaker 9 (25:22):
No?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
No, I'm just I'm not even listening to you, Michelle
and your cruel barbs because I'm actually trying to google
TLC to find out who was in there.
Speaker 15 (25:30):
Much more important.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, well, it's just annoying me. Now hang on, you.
Speaker 15 (25:34):
Carry on, you gonna come on with my story. So
this drug obviously is a famous weight lots drug in
the States at the moment, used by a lot of
rich and famous people. Now, a guy called Jack Bobo,
who's head of the University of California, Los Angeles and
the Rothman Family Institute of Food Science has highlighted how
much an impact of this rate loss drug could be
felt in the next five years and in relation to
(25:55):
our global food supply systems and climb and he thinks
it could be more of an issue than climate change
on air food production from farms, just because people are
obviously maybe eating less with the stroke. So it's a
really interesting story. You can find more at the country
dot co dot z.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Of course of greater interest as I've found out who
was in telse so important? Thank you for ure well
Lisa left Di Lopez who did a duet with Elci
didn't she right? She died unfortunately, but there was Tioni
Watkins and Risonda Thomas. What interesting names there You go.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Sport with a avco Kiwi to the bone since nineteen
oh four.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
I wonder what Jeremy Rooks identifies as.
Speaker 15 (26:37):
Are we going to find out next?
Speaker 9 (26:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
We will not a cat. He could identify as a Swede,
a Swede plant, not a Swedish person as in the
plant ken We boxer Joseph Parker. I will have to
wait for his latest heavyweight World heavyweight title shot after
British IBF belt holder Daniel Dubois Withdrew Fillness. Parker will
(27:01):
now fight Congo's Martin Baccoli at short notice in Sunday
mornings fight in Saudi Arabia. The thirty three year old
is welcoming the new challenge, saying it's all part of
the journey and let's get it on. Tiger Woods has
joined the Player Advisory Council chair Adam Scott and PGA
Tour Commissioner Jay Monahan in a second White House meeting.
(27:24):
The move is another sign of golf tracking towards an
end of the division brought about by the Saudi funded
Live circuit. So the Trumpster, I think, wants to bring
together the PGA and Live Golf. Interesting times. Up next
Jeremy Rooks before the end of the hour, Barry Soper.
(28:02):
I bet our next guest love the Backstreet Boys back
in ninety nine because he is larger than life. Just
to have a look at him. Jeremy Rook's our lifestyle correspondent, Jesse,
what do you identify as awesome? That wasn't the answer.
I got a text and from my old mate Steu
Duncan I won't name where the kid's from, but he
(28:22):
said there's a kid identifying as a fox.
Speaker 12 (28:25):
Oh, just it's nonsense. I mean, it's just ridiculous. And
this wait ideology that's sweet the world but is being destroyed.
Thankfully in America allows all this rubbish and the sort
of carry on still is still allowed under this government,
which is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
I blame I blame the parents for letting kids they
can identify as a cat when they're eighteen and they
leave home. Actually, Jeremy, just because you're sort of also,
and I'll just bear with me. I'll give you a
wee bit of Backstreet Boys for a moment, just fair way, fairwell.
And the reason is I got a text and from
somebody all there all going nuts on cats, here's a
(29:03):
text because you're sort of our resident carbon farmer as well.
Forestry companies are still buying land class one to four
farms for forestry and carbon credits. They are giving the
middle finger to government policy and plowing on another thirty
thousand stock units went last week. It's corrupt, says Dean.
What are you hearing?
Speaker 12 (29:24):
Yeah, I know there's quite a few places still going
into forestry. I'm not sure whether it's carbon or not.
But and I know there's been transactions including our old
place has already been on sold by the guys that
brought it in to buy pass the OIO. Now that
they're anything that's planted is now candidis existing forestry, so
(29:46):
New Zealand companies can still buy it and then flicking
on in a year or two times. So that's probably
the next issue that's going to come up about intention.
About intention, Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Mean, to be fair, if you were planting in forestry now,
you're definitely doing it for the carbon credits. Forestry per
se is not that flash at the moment. It will be.
It's still our fourth biggest export industry and good luck
to it. But the carbon credits are the cherry on top.
Speaker 12 (30:12):
Yeah. Possibly, but I've never really I don't understand carbon credits.
I never have, so I'm not really the right kind
of talk to about that now. Honestly, it just doesn't
hit them. And how you can trade air is just nonsense.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, okay, well what about that? I shouldn't even ask
you because I know what your answer will be. That
the Paris Climate Accord, Where do you sit on that?
Should we be in or out of it?
Speaker 12 (30:34):
Well, out of course. And you do realize that we
were one of only thirteen countries out of one hundred
and ninety five original signatories that have re signed the
Sierra Rule, and the government are so proud of themselves
and you're going, we'll hang on to one hundred and
eighty two countries haven't re signed or they've left, So
what on earth are we done? It is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
It was interesting hearing. I don't know whether you heard
him midweek. I thought he offered really good commentary on
up Bruce Kottrell. He said we need to be out
of it. He said the price, the price tag for
staying in is just too expensive for New Zealand.
Speaker 12 (31:08):
Well everybody knows that. I mean, it's just common sense
where we can't afford it and sort of come on
and go, oh, we're protecting our farmers by actually costing
the country thirty billion. I mean, there's that any sort
of logical argument from the government. I don't think it is.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
You have been critical in recent times of our Prime
Minister Christopher Luxe and why.
Speaker 12 (31:27):
Oh, I just find him he's just we're all, you know,
look less, he's Donald Trump as the example, he's coming
to power with saying what he's going to do, and
he's gone and he smashed into the inefficial bureaucracy and
the wofery and jiggery pokery that goes on. And we
have a prime minister here who puts these ridiculously stupid
social media posts up trying to sort of impressive run
(31:49):
by going till that growth, growth, growth, growth, growth. I
mean that's their message. He's got no message. We just
want to get on and do something to change, so
you would.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
You would sooner he was like Trump and make up
an absolute lie about who started the Russian Ukraine War.
Speaker 12 (32:02):
Oh well, we're not going to get go down that one.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
But not Trump. Trump's done some Trump Trump's done some
good things, Jeremy, but he's also told some bar faced lies.
Speaker 12 (32:12):
I'm not talking about an international policy. I'm talking about
what he's doing domestically and what what meants to this country, Jamie,
is what has done domestically, and Trump's as I said,
Trump's election has given legitimacy for around the world. Now
for leads to stand up because the silent majority of
people all behind the scenes and go, oh, we need
to get rid of all this race based stuff. We
(32:33):
need to get rid of us puberty blockers. We need
to get rid of this what you know, thealytical diversity
equity implsions. Everyone knows it, and yet Lackson won't stand
up and go, ll this is this is what we're
going to do. I mean, you've just seen the public
sect the report come out from Sir Brian Roach, and
I mean that's only the start of it. But nothing's changing.
Nothing has changed in the culture. You look at all
(32:53):
the job ads coming out in government departments and you
tell me that things are right in this country, Well
they're not. He's got to people want leadership at the moment.
That's what they want, and lux is not projecting it.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
I just got a text in jess New Plymouth Girls
High School and this is I take it. Have many
girls who are identifying as cats, have even got litter
trays and the toilets for them. What's the world coming to, Jeremy.
Speaker 12 (33:19):
Well, this is, of course yeah, but it's the Ministry
of Education or be going. Well, that's fine. And then
of course the the principles are all white. Now the
two AFAI to just go this is nonsense, like it's
just nuts. I mean, you know, I'm a guy for
bringing back boys and girls and caning as well. I
love the caning action consequence.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Then well you still you still do, don't you? What
do you mean like a wee bit of caning but
the but a Peter Plumley.
Speaker 12 (33:46):
Walker only anniversaries birthdays?
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Jim, good on you mate, I've got to go thank
you for adding a bit of levity to our Friday.
There we go, Jeremy Rights and please take that in
the good the jest in which it was intended. We're
going to take a break on the other side of it.
Barry Soaper to wrapper. Just remember if you want to
win the thousand dollars worth of Eco Lab products from
(34:10):
the thousand dollars cash, it's live now. Just go to
our website Thecountry dot co dot nz. Dezi you believe
when I Okay, Just before we wrap the show with
Barry Soaper, we'd like to give a shout out this
(34:31):
week to the sixth annual game of cricket between the
Horticulture Growers and the Dairy Farmers and the bay are Plenty.
Sunday's match will be a great excuse to get off
catch up with mates and have some fun as well
as share a few Farmstrong resources. Best of luck to
both teams and thanks to Steven cross And for all
this great work making it happen. For more ideas on
(34:52):
how to live well and farm well, head to the
Farmstrong website this weekend farmstrong dot co dot nz and
find out what works for you. And Locket and Eddie
Barry sober? Do you can you believe that in new
Plymouth Girls High School has litter trays in the girl's
toilets And I hope I'm not speaking out of turn here.
(35:14):
Apologies to New Plymouth Girls High School if indeed you
haven't got litter trays. But it's a worrying accusation.
Speaker 16 (35:21):
Well, have they got an infestation of cats or something?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
No, people people identifying as cats. Chris Russell, their assie correspondent,
started it, telling us the story about the Aussie teacher
who got sacked for identifying as a cat because she
was licking the back of the hands to some of
the pupils.
Speaker 16 (35:39):
Well, I guess you know we've got a river that
identifies as a human being.
Speaker 12 (35:43):
Yes, that's river.
Speaker 16 (35:44):
So impossible these days, Jamie, you don't have to be binary.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
As Christopher Luxon, or actually, should I say as Winton
Winston identifying himself as a Prime minister.
Speaker 16 (35:58):
Well, you know that's the nature of coalition politics, isn't
it that you have sniping from the sidelines. And imagine
what it must be like for Chris Luxon. I often
think you know that he is a former chief executive
of an airline that whatever he said go or went
(36:18):
these days, whatever he says is debated and that must
be particularly frustrating in his position, but that's the nature
of the job that he took on. Unfortunately, I think
Winston is much more acquiescent though than what David Seymour
is that Winston, even though he's behaved, misbehaved in the
(36:38):
House this week about art r and New Zealand and
relating it to the Mexican standoff that they've got with
Riccardo Menendez March. You know, politics has got quite silly
this week. I've got to say, Jomie.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Hey, yeah, I'll tell you someone who's a standout, and
you've got to give it to a full of longevity
is old or shouldn't say old, same age as me
Judith Collins.
Speaker 16 (37:04):
Oh yeah, no, And she was having a bit of
a laugh about being menopausal. This week, I'll tell you
what I heard her being interviewed this morning about these
Chinese warships.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yes, Sarah off the coast.
Speaker 16 (37:15):
Of Sydney at the moment. One of them is one
of the biggest warships in the world. And you'd have
to say, yet again, diplomacy the Chinese. You would think
that they would have told New Zealand and indeed Australia
as to what they're doing there. But you know, I
don't think we're permanently going to be torpedoed by the Chinese.
(37:39):
But nevertheless, you know, it's a bit of a worry, all.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Right, barrying the other one, and you probably haven't got
time for comment on this one. With mothballed Mars and
Portant now we're going to build a new refinery, then
go figure that one out. Bas Have a great weekend, mate,
nice to talk to you.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
To that.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
There we go, Barry Sober wrapping the country for the
week we've got. We're going to our Highlanders here in
Dunedin against the Blues on Saturday. The Highlanders. We'll catch
you back on Monday.
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