July 4, 2024 • 37 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Kevin "Smiley" Barrett, Stu Duncan, Blair "Blizzard" McLean, Chris Hipkins, and Chris Brandolino.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent. You're specialist in
John Deere construction equipment.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, Gray, New Zealand. This is the Country. I'm Jamie McKay.
The show is brought to you by Brent. We're pretty
excited in the studio today because it's test weekend here
in Dunedin. We're kicking it off back in Black ac DC.
I've got a few guests in the studio including Smiley Barry.
Let's drive Smiley Barrett, he wants a bit of ac DC.
(01:04):
I've got Big stud Duncan who's been wrestling, Dare and
the manny A Toto he's just had a shoulder operation.
And Blair Blizzard MacLean aur Blenham based vitaiculture expert. We're
also going to catch up or earlier this morning, I
caught up with a Labour leader Chris Hipkins. He'll be
hoping his Labor Party does as well as the British
Labor Party landslide election. Will update that one for you
(01:28):
as well. Chris Brandolino on the weather. It's going to
be a great week of weather, a big high sitting
over New Zealand, but b warn second week of the
school holidays ten days away from now. Apparently it's going
to get a bit wet. Barry Soaper on the Week
in Politics, But before I introduced Smiley Barrett, here's a
week cut from Graham Murray on yesterday's show regarding Smiley's failure,
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unlike his three sons to make the All Blacks? Do
you coach Smiley Barrett the sire of course of the
current Barrett clan. He would have been a bit of trouble,
wouldn't he come lying out time? Oh? Smiley wasn't above
a bit of buffo.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Oh if we never had any trouble with Smiley. I
think Philip, his brother was the captain of the team,
so Philip had didn't have expect Philip didn't have too
much control over Smiley. But yeah, definitely a couple of
issues here. I think. I remember I was shopping out
John hard at sort of some stage when he was
(02:27):
looking at prospective All Black players, and I mentioned that
Smiley was well worth a look at. But I sat
on the stand of John and we watched Smiley play
and he played very well. But unfortunately somebody did something
terrible to him, and I think John John wasn't impressed
with Smiley's response and says, well, we can't have that
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in the all blacks. So I think Smiley then focused
on breeding all backs and not being one.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So there you go. Graham Murray on yesterday show of Course,
Southern Pastures, Lewis Road Creamery taking out one of the
big awards at the Primary Industry Awards Tuesday night in Wellington.
It's been a very very busy week. Okay, Smiley, Barrett's
wandered into the studio. Are regular here on the country? Smiley?
What can you say in your defense?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
A good afternoon, Jamie's great to be here. My defense,
I'd say it was warranted.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Now you obviously that heart was having a look at you. Yeah,
and you may have. You may have retaliated against an
all black lock at the time, did you. No, you can't.
I can't plead the fifth you're.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Going to plead to remember that one?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Okay, fair enough, Well, as you said, you didn't quite
make it as an all black. You were probably close,
but you started breeding them. But how much genetic help
have you had from Robin? Because they tell me the
speed from the Barretts all comes from Mum or were
they being tough on you. Probably about ninety percent comes
from here, Jamie from from Robin. Yeah it must be.
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You must be obviously very proud. Three boys in the
All Blacks two starting. Boden will come off the bench.
He's one of my favorite all backs because of his
longevity and his versatility and the fact that you know
he could be overseas making big, big bucks, but he
loves the Black jersey. So he's come back for another crack,
and in fact, correct me if I'm wrong, he wants
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to have a crack at the twenty twenty seven Rugby
World Cup.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, they're playing burn. He loves he loves the All
Black jersey in the Coastal Jersey for that fact year,
so he just he just loves being here. So Bode
in the two last year went away straight into Japan,
so he didn't have a break. So he's played right
through and he took an injury back and I think
it was March, so it took a while. He had
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hit a few few weeks off there and he sort
of he was asked to come back, and he was
in contract to the Blues, but he was asked to
come back and play, but he just felt he needed
some time. Others he got straight back in the and
it would be pretty tough at the end of the season.
So he's fresh and ready to go now. So I think, yeah,
the or blecks of rewarding of the boys that have
they've played good footy here, so you both not come
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off the bench.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
How proud of you are you? Of the other two,
Scott's the captain and Jordie is now you know, reflecting
his seniority. I guess in the squad he's been around
since the Lions series in twenty seventeen, so he's had
what seven or eight seasons in the all Black jersey.
He's now on a vice captain's role.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
You're very proud the boys year, Robin. We just look
at each other and you know, you know, it's it's
hard to comprehend, but each year, you know, the boys'
names are ready out and we celebrate it. There's you know,
just one day it won't happen. You know, they got
a retire like a four mont get picked, you know,
so but yeah, it's huge, huge privilege for our family.
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You know, they have the boys with you know, leadship
roles in the orb next year.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
What is it about the upbringing on the farm. Is
it the meat and milk?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I think the boys were the boys with me, neighbors
and cousins. They were just they were just kids back
in the day. They just out in the back lawn.
Whether it's whether it was winter you're kicking a ball around,
rugg round ball or an overball, and cricket was summer,
you know, so the back lawn and the summer become
the BCG and the cricket ground. You know, there was
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some pretty tense battles out there, but there were a
few tears in that, but it was all in good heart.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Now we're hearing the likes of Erica Stanford, the new
education Minister, talking about and quite rightly so, getting kids
off screens in schools. I'm glad they've banned cell phones
and schools. I think it's a smart move and just
kids and their device becomes their babysitter. And I think
that is one of the great advantages and I'm sure
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Stu Duncan would back me up here, would be one
of the great advantages of raising kids on a farm.
You know, they get outside and you go and help
mum or dad on the farm.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Yeah here rightly so, but I mean back then our
boys and girls of that fact. I mean the TV
was hardly on the odd it was on I think
Blakey and Blake and Jordie. I mean, if it was on,
they were watching league. They used to love watching the
league and just sport in general, you know, soccer. I mean,
I think boat, what do you want to do? Is
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team was play for Men United?
Speaker 5 (07:26):
You know?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So? Yeah it was and they were down. They were
just doing stuff on the farm here as normal kids
would do, just growing up.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Well, talking about the farm, you've taken the weekend off
the farm. You must be what are we now? July
the f when do you start carving?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
About ten days? But look at some girls yere but
not officially for the to the twentieth year, So just
a short gear station, bullsy, I see you got Now
there's years, you get a few more years, a few
early carved than predicted you. So just what it's one
of those what did you make that GDT auction the
other night? Wasn't too flash, that wouldn't flash. But yeah,
it's it's a long way out, you know. So, But
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do you know, I think looking forward it's it's it's
positive science for you.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And you're in the depths of winter. I'm assuming you're
in the depths of winter. We certainly are down here Stuw,
Duncan and many A Toto pretty cold there, i'd think.
And then in the coming week, how are you faring
as you head into spring. Well, you'll be hoping for
an early spring if you're carving in ten or fifteen
days time.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Winter has been pretty kind to us, Jamie. I think
coming off the back of autumn, I mean sudden tyrannecka
was pretty dry. I mean they were dying for I
was talking to Shane Clevity on the a few weeks ago,
the prominent farmer in South Tieran Neck, and he said
they were hoping to get some rain, and it was
they were carving in two weeks time. So but saying there,
you know, going into this winter we had saw moster
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levels were quite high that the last two were quite wet.
So we're on the back foot and this winter we've
had good growth rates and it's been relatively easy wintering.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Now I know Scott Barrett's not Scott Barrett, let's try.
Scott Robertson has been it pains to say. This is
his first test. He wants to get things right. He's
been reasonably conservative with his selection other than Stephen Pera fetter.
But I reckon the All Blacks are thirteen plus against England.
I don't see this England side as being our great side.
What do you reckon? You know a lot more about
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footy than me.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Oh, I don't know, Jamie. Now I think like someone
what's the thigless play? I just in a few shorts
of the last game in Japan, But I'm saying that
they've been together with the or the autumn series, and
obviously the All Blacks have come together. We've only been
together for two weeks. So yeah, we've got one hundred
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percent of the boys available, so it's going to be key.
But I think there's there'll be plenty effort there, but
whether it's first half might a bit scratchy, but it's
under the roof, so it'd be a good game. So
but I said the Boys were definitely have to win
this one.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, I would imagine so. Well, Smiley Barrett, thank you
very much for your time. We might drag you back
and during the course of the show. I don't know
how long you can hang around for You've probably got
a luncheon or something to go to, but we might
take a break and on the other side of it,
catch another farmer who's in town, although I'm not sure
he's in town for the rugby because he's wearing a
big sling around his shoulder. Stu Duncan normally would turn
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up at the opening of an envelope, but he tells
me he may not be at the Test match in
Dunedin tomorrow because he got beaten up by a stag
in the yards while he was trying to do some velveting.
I think he's a bit long in the tooth for
that job. That's what you've got workers forced jew So
Stu Duncan. Next, Blae McLean's in here. Blenham based viticulture
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expert Chrishipkins I caught up with a wee bit earlier
this morning. Chris Brandolino on the weather, it's going to
be a good cold winter's week next week, just what
we want. And Barrysopa on politics. It's on the Country,
brought to you by Brandt eighteen after twelve. Okay, welcome
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back to the Country. You cast one thousands in the
studio today Smiley Barrett, Blair MacLean and Stu Duncan, and
we've had a few texts and people wanting to hear
the Graham Murray story from Smiley Barrett. I don't know
whether this is revenge or not. Graham Murray. Actually, I'm
very proud to say, listens to the show, very smart
guy and all black who did very very well after rugby.
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But Stu Duncan, it's your turn to chat to us.
Many a Toto farmer. Let me see, you've got sheep, beef,
dairy and dairy. You think of getting out of the
deer farming because you're in a sling now courtesy of
trying to velvet a stag. Aren't you a bit long
in the tooth for that?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Well I am a bit long in the tooth. That
Jamie actually got beaten up by a bull as well
in the stock grate. So I'm sick of animals that
have got aggression.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
So you need to stick to drenching lambs. That's trouble there.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Your job looks quite good.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Actually it's quite warm here.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Plenty of money now.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I got a text from my good friend. I don't
know if I can call him that that's probably drawing
a long bow. Jeremy Rocks. He said he's been up
helping out a mate in North Cansbury and I'm sure
he won't mind me repeating his message with a bit
of censorship in there. He said, Look, it's pretty grim.
This is North Canterbury's still dry, still cold, no feed
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and he's saying, you know, unless we get a bit
of a break and if we get some bad weather
at Lambing, it could be tough. And I know the
manny A Totos had also similar dry but you're fearing
a bit better than that.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I was actually in North Canary watching rugby the other
day at Glenmark and the semi finals, and they are
very similar to us, but they're a lot closer to Lamming.
Some of the low country looked like to me a
good share of rain it would come away, but the
hill country is really dry and we're the same. We
got thirty one miller rain the other day and I
think we've had a ten or a dozen before that,
and we're lucky we got it without frost in the ground.
There was no runoff. But if I was up the
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hill muster in the other day, you look over the
miniotato and all those week pins are full, so it's loud.
Stock will in a lot of places too. But the
irrigation dam is incredibly low, so you know it's important.
I think that we get another rain in the spring
because we are dry.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
But no better you good farming folk up on the
manny a toto love two things as far as I
can see, duck shoot like three things, duck shooting, beer
and rugby. Well, has anyone left in rain fairly? And
where to burn? Or are they all down on then
eating for the week.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
I've been away since Wednesdays. I don't know what the
population looks like, but there'll be a fear few come
down for the weekend. And there's a great thing because
it's pretty pretty tough up there for the last six months.
So it'd be a good idea for a lot of
mums and dads and the kids to get off from
town and go to the rugby. And if you be
here somewhere else, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
What about your old sparring partner Andrew ware Like, there's
no show without punch, He'll be He'll be here, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Yeah, he was down last night and he's got the
Captain's run this afternoon and he's got a few kids
coming down with him to go out to that, so yeah,
and yeah, he's got the kids. He's going out and
sitting in the stand so he'll catch up and a
few as old mates. Is really good because like all
of us and like him, he needs to catch up
with you know, you work pretty hard. Then he's had
it more dry at that bottom end than we have,
sore looking forward to get to town.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Well, we were talking to Smiley about the All Blacks
chance the tab would favor a thirteen plus. I mean
head to head to the tab's got it pretty one sided.
I don't see it as a really strong England side,
but they have had some internationals playing into this. The
All Blacks are traditionally slow starters, but largely he's sort
of stuck with Ian Foster's team. Was there any surprises
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other than Pera Feta.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
No, not really, And I just think look through the reserves,
the are some pretty talented different comers coming through there
and it shows a style I think they're going to play,
and you know you'd have to be on your best
game for England. I think if we set the back
line a light. You know, we'd be pretty hard to handle.
I think we're pretty good team.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Are you going to stay in Dneed and are you
going to go home and lick your wounds?
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Jamie, I haven't got a ticket yet, and I don't
have any accommodation left from Duned, and I was trying
to trick them at the hospital see if I can
get another day. The food was fantastic, and theyone looks
out if.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You prepared to bunk him with about five other riverstyle farmers,
you can come and stay up at my place.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Sounds a bit dodgy for me, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
All right, ste Hey, thanks for coming in. Stay in
the studio because we've got, as I said, literally a
cast of thousands up next to the batter's box. Blair
Blizzard MacLean. He's come bearing gifts too, I might add,
Actually my place is the place to be. He sent
me a box of Blenheim bubbles. I don't know how
that'll go with the farmers, but anyhow, we'll chat to
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him before the end of the hour. Earlier this morning,
I caught up with labor leader Chris Hipkins. And if
you haven't caught up on the news, there's been a
landslide in the UK. The numbers are coming through. I
think we get the final numbers about four o'clock in
the morning our time, So that's not going to be
pretty for the Conservatives over there. Chris Brandolino on the
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weather and Barry Soper of Barry a couple of texts.
He's yet to respond. We may or may not be
chatting to Barry. Music chosen by our guest today. Smiley
chose back in Black by ac DC and Steweye. You
chose a bit of Chris Stapleton and a bit of
smooth Tennessee whiskey. We'll take a break and we'll see
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what We'll go from whiskey to wine. We'll see what
our viticulture correspondents got to offer on a musical front.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
On a warm summer's evening on a train bound from
nor met up with the gambling.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
We were both too tamelessly, so we two turns a stair.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
All right. Welcome back to the country, Blair Blizzard MacLean,
our viticulture correspondent based out of Blenham. He's made the
trip south to Dunedin for test wee ken and I
like your musical choice there, Blizzard that's pretty good. But
a Kenny Rodgers you would have had that back in
the day, because you realize Smiley was nearly an all
Black and bread a few Stewey Duncan nearly got to
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the That was at nineteen ninety Commonwealth Games. He could
run like the wind until he got too fat and
they moved him from wing wing to hooker for the Many.
For the Many a toto team. You, my friend, played
for Roxburgh in Central Otago. You played for three years
and you never scored a try.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Yeah, but we had some good three years Jamie. It's
a fun time back then.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
My favorite, my favorite stat from that. I'm sorry for
repeating myself, but a good story is worth telling. Again.
The bloke on the other wing was pretty quick, Johnny McKinnell.
He scored about forty five tries over those three seasons
sixty sixty and you didn't get a sausage.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
Yeah, no, Borden, come away.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I always play on the left wing.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Yeah, you know, tough times back then.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, I'm actually staying at my place today. Is one
of the finest first fives that played for Rivers to
I had a few games for Southland as well. Mark
Shall that I spent a lot of time playing outside him,
and I can tell you what he used to do.
We've probably listing on the way up. If it was
bad ball, he would pass it. If it was okay,
Balley would kick it. If it was a good ball,
he'd run it himself. So as that, you know, sometimes
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playing outside him you have to take a cut lunch
to footing. Anyhow, I digress. What's happening in the in
the wine industry? Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 8 (18:16):
Actually, we had a big conference sort of last week.
A bit of tough times in the one industry. You know,
we've had two big years pretty much over five hundred
thousand tons of grapes harvested twenty twenty three and twenty
twenty two. So that's left us with a surplus light
vintage this year, down by twenty one percent, and we've
probably got fifty one million liters of seventy on blanc
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floating around in Marlborough that needs to be consumed now.
So your mate from Riversdale might be able to help
us out with that.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
They might be more use on beer than thank you.
But yeah, domestically, are we doing enough to promote a
small market or are people moving away? From wine. Look
at the young kids in that today. They don't drink wine.
Speaker 8 (18:58):
No, there is a bit of a change world market cider,
you know, spirits, buts and pieces like that. So, and
of course the big surge is no alcohol wine or
low alcohol wine. So there's a lot of that happening.
Probably won't be.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Drunken shaking that one. I don't think. I don't think
none alcohol's made the way to the many Atoto or
the weather Burn tavern.
Speaker 8 (19:17):
He doesn't look like he's doing dry July do No,
he's not a Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
But it is Monte the wine industry, and I know Emerson,
so I'll get a plug in for them. They do
an excellent zero percent beer, the Little Bird. It's very good.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
That's good because that's where we're going for lunch next. Yeah.
So no, there is that that that market is going
great guns. But there's just just a lot of normal
sevon blanc around so gat So we normally plant one
thousand hectares a year in Malborough of grapes, ninety percent
of it save blanc. We're down probably three or four
hundred hectares of grapes be planted this year just because
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of you know, infrastructure cap X everybody. There's just not
enough money around. So things are tight in the in
the Wye market.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And what's happening on the vineyards at the moment.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
Pruning, pruning and pruning and a bit of balance fertilizing
and on and lots of stuff from vegage rights and
fruitfeed but no lots lots of pruning and wine blending
and the wineries pretty much so they're making making blends
to get out there. Twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
All right, hey, we'll come back to you because I
want to ask you where did that box of bubbles
come from? Who do we need to shamelessly plug for that?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (20:26):
That's Forest of State. Actually yeah, they said, see as
you're doing such a good job mental health and plus
you get a lot of booze drinkers coming around to
your place.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, we can give some to our guests. So what
do they do? Where are they?
Speaker 8 (20:38):
Both forested stat and just out of rainwork. Nice small winery,
good team there, and they do a low alcohol wine
as well. Not what I sent you, but yeah no,
so there's yeah, good good people. John Forrest and Bridget
and her team there.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
All right, there we go. That's Blair blizzard MacLean here
on the country picking the Gambler. We're going to take
a break on the other side of it. Earlier this
morning I caught up with Chrispkins and before you thrash
me on the text line. We speak to all parties
apart from the Greens. Chloe hasn't answered my call to
be on the show. But and to party Mary and
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that they're not a political party, their activists, to be honest,
everyone else we've got to give a crack to to
try and keep things fair. So anyhow, we will no
laughter in the cheap seats please, we're going to take
a break. Chris hip can some interesting comments he made
about the UK election. I think he's coming down to
the footy as well. Before the end of the hour,
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Chris Brandolino from NIWA and let me check my phone.
I haven't. I don't think Barry's missing an action somewhere,
so there may not be a Barry soaper, but we've
still got the Graham Murray story to come from. Smiley.
He tells me he needs a clean thirty seconds to
get rid of it. We'll see how he goes. A
week later in the hour and.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
The name deathly Quaid and his face lost tile Express.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
You've feinted a few lips and ruled and curldure tended he's.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
A Labour's leader and like half the rest of the country,
well that's a bit of an exaggeration, like perhaps thirty
thousand to the rest of the country. He's making his
way to the Eden for the test tomorrow. We might
finish with that, Chris Sipkins, but I want to start
with the big news on the world stage today, and
that is a labor landslide that is going to happen
in the UK. We don't know the exit poles as
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we record this interview, but it's going to be a landslide.
Does it give you faith hope for the future.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I think what it.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Shows is that you know, politics at the moment is
moving in pretty dramatic shifts all around the world. You know,
in the UK the last UK election, Boris Johnson won
a big majority and now the Conservatives have been defeated
by a big majority. And it shows that you know,
things can change very quickly, and that means that our
work is the New Zealand's opposition is really really important
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because things can shift a lot in the next two years.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Mind you, isn't there a bit of a movement worldwide
politically going to the right or even the far right?
Look France probably, what could happen in the US? I'd
be interested to get your thoughts on that one. Was
it is it Brazil or Argentina one of those countries
has gone really far right?
Speaker 9 (23:11):
No, well, Brazil actually moved to the left and the
last presidential elections. And I think what we've seen though
over the last eighteen months or so is that around
the world, governments that lead to their country through the
global pandemics have feared pretty badly when it comes to
election day. And that was same in New Zealand, it
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was Australia. Even in the US. I mean that was
a little different in that let that election happen in
the middle of the pandemic. But generally governments that have
been in office during the during that time have been
defeated when the next general election rolls around.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I want to ask you about your two day caucus
retreat and the portfolios. I think I was watching One
News I think it was One News, and the reporter
asked you have you got dead would in your caucus
or did all the dead wood get swept aside, and
the landslide of the twenty twenty three election.
Speaker 9 (24:04):
Now we've got a caucus of thirty four MPs. I've
had a bit of turnover since the election, you know,
a few retirements and a few new people coming in
or coming back in, and everyone's contributing. Everyone's working very hard,
and you know, we've managed to avoid what often happens
when you lose an election and you end up in opposition.
People are actually working really constructively together. We're not seeing
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that sort of infighting and scrapping that has characterized previous
election losses for both Labor and National and I think
that's a sign that the team's in good shape.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Well, you've hardly changed any portfolios at all.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
Well, I don't actually agree with that. I mean, if
you look at some of the big portfolios, there are
new people in them, so you know, in Karen mcinolty
and Housing Joe Luxton, in the primary industry's portfolio, there
are quite a few different spokespeople in key roles, and
some of the people who were ministers before the last
election it actually only had those roles short period of time.
(25:00):
So you know, doctor Aisheverel took on being Minister of
Health at the beginning of last year, and so I
wasn't going to take that portfolio offer after she'd only
had it for nine months.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Well, let's talk about housing. Have the nets got it
wrong going out as well as up? Shouldn't we just
go up? Shouldn't we ring fence Auckland and say that's enough,
good land you've grabbed, good food producing land you've grabbed.
Speaker 9 (25:21):
If you want to expand, to go up, it's not
just about going up. It's also about making sure we're
making best use of the land that we've already got
for housing. So if you look at some of the
housing land that we already have Southwest Auckland and so on,
it's pretty inefficiently used, and we could use that much
more efficiently with higher density housing still have really good,
high quality housing. We have to invest in the infrastructure
(25:44):
for that. I am worried that National's plan will see
highly productive land being taken for housing, and I don't
think that's in the country's best interest Ultimately. You know,
people who live in those houses still need to eat,
and you still need to have higher productive, high quality
land relatively close to your major population centers in order
to produce the fresh food that the people who live
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in those population centers need.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I just want to finish with your AG team or
your AG portfolio. Joe Luxton's being very consoliatory, perhaps unlike
her predecessor Damien, who was always up for a bit
of a scrap, but you always knew where Damien stood
to be fair. I was at the Primary Industry conference
in Wellington this week. Joe was there also, Rachel Brooking
(26:28):
at Dunedin Lawyer. What's her connection with AGG?
Speaker 9 (26:32):
Rachel's our environment spokesperson, and you know, one of the
things that we do have to work through with the
primary sector is to make sure that our environmental policies
are consistent with the commitments that we have around the
primary industries as well. You know, we're a food producing nation.
We want our primary sectors to thrive and to succeed,
and making sure that we have the right environmental policies
(26:54):
for that to happen and for us to protect our environment.
It's actually pretty cool business for us.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Are you an out and out Hugby fan or a
Sisters the junket? Courtesy of being leader of the opposition,
The reason you're coming down to Dunedin.
Speaker 9 (27:06):
Oh look, I love the league. I enjoy watching the
All Blacks. Pay enjoy watching the Hurricanes when they're winning,
which you know is a Hurricane supporter, and I have
to tell you it's a bit of a bix spag sometimes.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Well, you enjoy your weekend. I know you've already had
one trip to Dunedin this week, Chris Hopkins. You enjoy
your trip down for the footy. It's going to be
a wonderful occasion. And I know you'll argue otherwise, being
a good welling Tonian. And the Cake Tin used to
be the best venue in the country for a Test match.
It has been overtaken by Dunedin. No one does a
Test better than Dunedin. We might see around about the traps,
(27:39):
all right.
Speaker 9 (27:40):
We might have to as ready disagree with that. I
do have to say a full sight father, pretty impressive venue.
Cheers Jamies.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
There we go, Chris Hopkins. Something we prepared awe but
earlier this morning. Yep, like thirty thousand others, he's going
to be in town here in Dunedin for the Test match.
Rases first Test match, the beginning of an air. We've
got the father of the All Black Captain Scott Barrett,
also making his debut as All Black Captain in the studio.
(28:06):
The Graham Murray story is coming. There's a few texts
coming in, so they want more of Smiley and less
of Chris Sipkins. We're being as fair as we can.
We've got to be politically balanced on this one. Now
that between the three of them, I said, any volunteers
to read the sports news. Smiley ducked for cover. Stew's
claiming a broken wing. So Blair Blizzard MacLean for the
(28:27):
sports news. But before we do that, here's Michelle with
Rural News.
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Speaker 2 (29:15):
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here's the latest and sports news with Blair Blizzard MacLean.
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Speaker 2 (29:33):
Now my mates at AFCO are paying good money to
sponsor the sports news, not for you to come in
here and talk over their line. Huh I sorry about that.
Oh you wouldn't get a bit closer to the Mica.
You can go now Radio.
Speaker 8 (29:44):
Richie Muwanga has plans to continue as an All Black.
The thirty year old playmaker is ineligible for national selection
at present. After signing a three year deal to play
in Japan. Wang Ant says he plans to return in
time to push for the next World Cup in twenty
twenty seven in Australia. It's quite exciting.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Well no, it's not really you never give a sucker
an even Damien McKenzie will make every post on a
smile is nodding and Richie might have left us run
too late. We'll see what happens there. All great players,
to be fair.
Speaker 8 (30:13):
True, Okay, the football Ferns have a big chance in
the absence of veteran stroker Hannah Wilkinson from the Olympic squad,
the match winner from last year's World Cup opener. That's
the view of interim coach Michael Mayne. Where Millie Kleig,
Jackie Hand, Grace Jail, Gabby Rennie and in the India
page Riley picked over Wilkinson for Paris. And lastly, Keey Golfer's.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Right, I've got to get to the rugby tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (30:40):
Tom that on this is it?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Jamie Yes has a cold time out at one o'clock.
But do we really need this story? What is it about?
Speaker 8 (30:48):
It's Keey golfers, Ryan Fox and zam Joan and they
are playing in the European Tour in Munich.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
There we go Blair, Bliss and MacLean on the elongated
Sports News. Up next, Chris Brandolino on the Weather and
Smiley Barrett with the Graham Murray story. Ponder that one.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Don't take a good load.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
The freezees that I ram. Here's my favorite weather man, well,
certainly on a Friday on the country, Chris Brando Lena
from newa I've got to be careful with you, weather
man because you're so territorial. Chris, no time to waste, busy,
busy show today. Talk to me about how warm we
need to rug up tomorrow night and Dunedin. If we're
heading along to the test.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
A look, temperature is probably around the eight degree mark
in the early evening hours, but there will be a
bit of a breeze Jamie. So we're looking at winds
coming from the probably a southwesterly for tomorrow in the
evening late afternoon, and winds will be gusting I would
say upwards of fifty maybe sixty k So it's that
wind chill that you will notice that'll really add a
(31:53):
bit of a bite to the air. But if there
were no wind, it really wouldn't be that bad. But
with the wind it'll feel a bit nippy.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Well, punt's going along to the rugby. Remember the role
of thumb. It's three degrees warmer in the stadium. Then outside,
but if you're sitting anywhere near those corners, it can
get away bit chilly. So rug got barm. Look next week,
we've got a dirty, big high. And I shouldn't say
dirty big high because it's a welcoming high. Is going
to plunk itself over the country. That's the sort of
winter weather I love. Chris.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Yeah, this is going to be a like speaking of rugby,
this is like a big rugby player this high. I
mean we use tech to pascals. If you're an old
school og original games there, that's millbars, and this is
going to be more than ten forty hecta pascals. It's
I'm the home barometer. In fact, some of the guidance
suggests maybe close to ten forty five. Now, to put
(32:41):
that in context, the record or the highest mean sea
level pressure readings on record in New Zealand are in
the mid ten forties, and in June twenty sixteen we
had ten forty five across the South Island, and in
June twenty nineteen the pressure reaches highs ten forty three
in the North Island. I'm not saying those records are
(33:03):
gonna fall, Jamie, but I am saying they're gonna be contested.
So that tells you a really strong high pressure near
record at least, and that'll happen during the week next week.
And with that, Jamie, with the long nights, we're gonna
get some severe and some hard frost. We're talking many areas,
many consecutive days, will get frost and fog, black ice,
(33:23):
things like that. There won't be much in the way
of rain. Some places in the valleys across the South
Island may struggle to get above zero because the league's
called a very strong inversion where the coldest air is
down below and it's actually a bit warmeras to go
up maybe a few hundred meters. So that's next week's weather.
And with that high of course, comes very little rainfall,
so very dry.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Okay, and really quickly to finish on, you've got a
bit of a warning at advance warning full warned is
forearmed for the following week second wake of school holidays,
maybe some Maija Ryan Evans.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Yeah, we've gotta watch for an atmospheric river, Jamie. Just
the heads up. You know that high I talked about,
it's going to shift east. The air goes northerly or
a northerly quarter, so northwest and northeast, and that will
drive down much warmer air, so a big change in
the temperature, but it'll also drag down moisture, a thin
corridor of moisture. Where that goes, we'll see. But west
of the southbound maybe the North Island could see some
(34:16):
heavier rainfall in that kind of second week of school holiday.
So the second half of July looks much different than
the first half. First half cold and dry, second half
would be moist and warm.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
There we got Chris Brandelena from nav thanks to your time.
You have a good weekend and you sir seven away
from one hey. Just before we wrap it with Smiley
Barrett and the Graham Moory's story, looking forward to this one.
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(35:15):
you by Branton Tests we can. We're so excited here
in Dunedin. Celebrities in the studio, stud Duncan. Thanks for
coming in, Blae McLean, thank you for coming and Smiley Barrett.
Last word to you. The Graham Murray story. Now, is
this broadcastable? That's a good story. I take it you've
got like a minute definitely broadcast all right where you go.
You might seek some revenge on Graham Murray having one
(35:38):
on you yesterday.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
No, not at all. Oh, anyway, I just like to congratulate.
I wish coastal best luck for semi final tomorrow. You go,
boys will be rooting for you. So anyway, back back
in the day, Robin II took eight children, sorry six
children Ireland and we farmed on a prominent diary from
(35:59):
over there for Michael Murphy, which it was a jersey
head been jersey had about the only jersey It was
the only jersey head in island. And the milk from
that farm went off to Dublin to make Irish Bailey's cream. Anyway,
so I was fortunate enough to bring a few boxes
back home and when we got home we had we
(36:20):
need a new coach for Coastal, and I talked to
Ray Bren and John Washer, and so we shot down
to WASH's place and said, well, you know I've got
I've got.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You've got a minute, smile, I've got a box.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
So I grabbed, I grabbed my brother, Timmy Earley, Ellen
Crowley and Peter Groves and Scottie Patters until we rolled
on down there. I said, Goss, you know we need
a coach. And uh, anyway, we had a few beers
and by the way, you coach and Coastal, and I've
got a box. I've got a crate of Irish baileys
that's been sitting on nice An Island for thirty years.
(36:54):
And anyway, I just got to the the cellar when
we got home, you see, and it was it had
to be cold, you see, and Wash had no ice.
So I put it the fridge and thirty seconds and
now later we got it out and hold up to
his face and it's not cold enough and not cold,
and Goss is looking his lips and everyone else is
looking their lips. So we banged her in there for
another half an air and got there again. And oh
it's still not cold enoughing it's right. Half a near
(37:15):
lader got there. No, it's just good. So we poured
it all out and we had eight shot glasses down
the hitch and oh they all locked their lips and
they thought, oh, this is great. And little did I
know that I just brought the bottle up at Roodie
Pop up the road.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
There.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
We smartly finally got it out. That's the Country for
the day. For today, go the All Blacks.
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Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, Gray, New Zealand. This is the Country. I'm Jamie McKay.
The show is brought to you by Brent. We're pretty
excited in the studio today because it's test weekend here
in Dunedin. We're kicking it off back in Black ac DC.
I've got a few guests in the studio including Smiley Barry.
Let's drive Smiley Barrett, he wants a bit of ac DC.
(01:04):
I've got Big stud Duncan who's been wrestling, Dare and
the manny A Toto he's just had a shoulder operation.
And Blair Blizzard MacLean aur Blenham based vitaiculture expert. We're
also going to catch up or earlier this morning, I
caught up with a Labour leader Chris Hipkins. He'll be
hoping his Labor Party does as well as the British
Labor Party landslide election. Will update that one for you
(01:28):
as well. Chris Brandolino on the weather. It's going to
be a great week of weather, a big high sitting
over New Zealand, but b warn second week of the
school holidays ten days away from now. Apparently it's going
to get a bit wet. Barry Soaper on the Week
in Politics, But before I introduced Smiley Barrett, here's a
week cut from Graham Murray on yesterday's show regarding Smiley's failure,
(01:51):
unlike his three sons to make the All Blacks? Do
you coach Smiley Barrett the sire of course of the
current Barrett clan. He would have been a bit of trouble,
wouldn't he come lying out time? Oh? Smiley wasn't above
a bit of buffo.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Oh if we never had any trouble with Smiley. I
think Philip, his brother was the captain of the team,
so Philip had didn't have expect Philip didn't have too
much control over Smiley. But yeah, definitely a couple of
issues here. I think. I remember I was shopping out
John hard at sort of some stage when he was
(02:27):
looking at prospective All Black players, and I mentioned that
Smiley was well worth a look at. But I sat
on the stand of John and we watched Smiley play
and he played very well. But unfortunately somebody did something
terrible to him, and I think John John wasn't impressed
with Smiley's response and says, well, we can't have that
(02:48):
in the all blacks. So I think Smiley then focused
on breeding all backs and not being one.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So there you go. Graham Murray on yesterday show of Course,
Southern Pastures, Lewis Road Creamery taking out one of the
big awards at the Primary Industry Awards Tuesday night in Wellington.
It's been a very very busy week. Okay, Smiley, Barrett's
wandered into the studio. Are regular here on the country? Smiley?
What can you say in your defense?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
A good afternoon, Jamie's great to be here. My defense,
I'd say it was warranted.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Now you obviously that heart was having a look at you. Yeah,
and you may have. You may have retaliated against an
all black lock at the time, did you. No, you can't.
I can't plead the fifth you're.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Going to plead to remember that one?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Okay, fair enough, Well, as you said, you didn't quite
make it as an all black. You were probably close,
but you started breeding them. But how much genetic help
have you had from Robin? Because they tell me the
speed from the Barretts all comes from Mum or were
they being tough on you. Probably about ninety percent comes
from here, Jamie from from Robin. Yeah it must be.
(04:03):
You must be obviously very proud. Three boys in the
All Blacks two starting. Boden will come off the bench.
He's one of my favorite all backs because of his
longevity and his versatility and the fact that you know
he could be overseas making big, big bucks, but he
loves the Black jersey. So he's come back for another crack,
and in fact, correct me if I'm wrong, he wants
(04:24):
to have a crack at the twenty twenty seven Rugby
World Cup.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, they're playing burn. He loves he loves the All
Black jersey in the Coastal Jersey for that fact year,
so he just he just loves being here. So Bode
in the two last year went away straight into Japan,
so he didn't have a break. So he's played right
through and he took an injury back and I think
it was March, so it took a while. He had
(04:49):
hit a few few weeks off there and he sort
of he was asked to come back, and he was
in contract to the Blues, but he was asked to
come back and play, but he just felt he needed
some time. Others he got straight back in the and
it would be pretty tough at the end of the season.
So he's fresh and ready to go now. So I think, yeah,
the or blecks of rewarding of the boys that have
they've played good footy here, so you both not come
(05:11):
off the bench.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
How proud of you are you? Of the other two,
Scott's the captain and Jordie is now you know, reflecting
his seniority. I guess in the squad he's been around
since the Lions series in twenty seventeen, so he's had
what seven or eight seasons in the all Black jersey.
He's now on a vice captain's role.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
You're very proud the boys year, Robin. We just look
at each other and you know, you know, it's it's
hard to comprehend, but each year, you know, the boys'
names are ready out and we celebrate it. There's you know,
just one day it won't happen. You know, they got
a retire like a four mont get picked, you know,
so but yeah, it's huge, huge privilege for our family.
(05:55):
You know, they have the boys with you know, leadship
roles in the orb next year.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
What is it about the upbringing on the farm. Is
it the meat and milk?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I think the boys were the boys with me, neighbors
and cousins. They were just they were just kids back
in the day. They just out in the back lawn.
Whether it's whether it was winter you're kicking a ball around,
rugg round ball or an overball, and cricket was summer,
you know, so the back lawn and the summer become
the BCG and the cricket ground. You know, there was
(06:28):
some pretty tense battles out there, but there were a
few tears in that, but it was all in good heart.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Now we're hearing the likes of Erica Stanford, the new
education Minister, talking about and quite rightly so, getting kids
off screens in schools. I'm glad they've banned cell phones
and schools. I think it's a smart move and just
kids and their device becomes their babysitter. And I think
that is one of the great advantages and I'm sure
(06:53):
Stu Duncan would back me up here, would be one
of the great advantages of raising kids on a farm.
You know, they get outside and you go and help
mum or dad on the farm.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Yeah here rightly so, but I mean back then our
boys and girls of that fact. I mean the TV
was hardly on the odd it was on I think
Blakey and Blake and Jordie. I mean, if it was on,
they were watching league. They used to love watching the
league and just sport in general, you know, soccer. I mean,
I think boat, what do you want to do? Is
(07:24):
team was play for Men United?
Speaker 5 (07:26):
You know?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
So? Yeah it was and they were down. They were
just doing stuff on the farm here as normal kids
would do, just growing up.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Well, talking about the farm, you've taken the weekend off
the farm. You must be what are we now? July
the f when do you start carving?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
About ten days? But look at some girls yere but
not officially for the to the twentieth year, So just
a short gear station, bullsy, I see you got Now
there's years, you get a few more years, a few
early carved than predicted you. So just what it's one
of those what did you make that GDT auction the
other night? Wasn't too flash, that wouldn't flash. But yeah,
it's it's a long way out, you know. So, But
(08:03):
do you know, I think looking forward it's it's it's
positive science for you.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And you're in the depths of winter. I'm assuming you're
in the depths of winter. We certainly are down here Stuw,
Duncan and many A Toto pretty cold there, i'd think.
And then in the coming week, how are you faring
as you head into spring. Well, you'll be hoping for
an early spring if you're carving in ten or fifteen
days time.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Winter has been pretty kind to us, Jamie. I think
coming off the back of autumn, I mean sudden tyrannecka
was pretty dry. I mean they were dying for I
was talking to Shane Clevity on the a few weeks ago,
the prominent farmer in South Tieran Neck, and he said
they were hoping to get some rain, and it was
they were carving in two weeks time. So but saying there,
you know, going into this winter we had saw moster
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levels were quite high that the last two were quite wet.
So we're on the back foot and this winter we've
had good growth rates and it's been relatively easy wintering.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Now I know Scott Barrett's not Scott Barrett, let's try.
Scott Robertson has been it pains to say. This is
his first test. He wants to get things right. He's
been reasonably conservative with his selection other than Stephen Pera fetter.
But I reckon the All Blacks are thirteen plus against England.
I don't see this England side as being our great side.
What do you reckon? You know a lot more about
(09:17):
footy than me.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Oh, I don't know, Jamie. Now I think like someone
what's the thigless play? I just in a few shorts
of the last game in Japan, But I'm saying that
they've been together with the or the autumn series, and
obviously the All Blacks have come together. We've only been
together for two weeks. So yeah, we've got one hundred
(09:40):
percent of the boys available, so it's going to be key.
But I think there's there'll be plenty effort there, but
whether it's first half might a bit scratchy, but it's
under the roof, so it'd be a good game. So
but I said the Boys were definitely have to win
this one.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, I would imagine so. Well, Smiley Barrett, thank you
very much for your time. We might drag you back
and during the course of the show. I don't know
how long you can hang around for You've probably got
a luncheon or something to go to, but we might
take a break and on the other side of it,
catch another farmer who's in town, although I'm not sure
he's in town for the rugby because he's wearing a
big sling around his shoulder. Stu Duncan normally would turn
(10:17):
up at the opening of an envelope, but he tells
me he may not be at the Test match in
Dunedin tomorrow because he got beaten up by a stag
in the yards while he was trying to do some velveting.
I think he's a bit long in the tooth for
that job. That's what you've got workers forced jew So
Stu Duncan. Next, Blae McLean's in here. Blenham based viticulture
(10:37):
expert Chrishipkins I caught up with a wee bit earlier
this morning. Chris Brandolino on the weather, it's going to
be a good cold winter's week next week, just what
we want. And Barrysopa on politics. It's on the Country,
brought to you by Brandt eighteen after twelve. Okay, welcome
(11:07):
back to the Country. You cast one thousands in the
studio today Smiley Barrett, Blair MacLean and Stu Duncan, and
we've had a few texts and people wanting to hear
the Graham Murray story from Smiley Barrett. I don't know
whether this is revenge or not. Graham Murray. Actually, I'm
very proud to say, listens to the show, very smart
guy and all black who did very very well after rugby.
(11:31):
But Stu Duncan, it's your turn to chat to us.
Many a Toto farmer. Let me see, you've got sheep, beef,
dairy and dairy. You think of getting out of the
deer farming because you're in a sling now courtesy of
trying to velvet a stag. Aren't you a bit long
in the tooth for that?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Well I am a bit long in the tooth. That
Jamie actually got beaten up by a bull as well
in the stock grate. So I'm sick of animals that
have got aggression.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
So you need to stick to drenching lambs. That's trouble there.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Your job looks quite good.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Actually it's quite warm here.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Plenty of money now.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I got a text from my good friend. I don't
know if I can call him that that's probably drawing
a long bow. Jeremy Rocks. He said he's been up
helping out a mate in North Cansbury and I'm sure
he won't mind me repeating his message with a bit
of censorship in there. He said, Look, it's pretty grim.
This is North Canterbury's still dry, still cold, no feed
(12:21):
and he's saying, you know, unless we get a bit
of a break and if we get some bad weather
at Lambing, it could be tough. And I know the
manny A Totos had also similar dry but you're fearing
a bit better than that.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I was actually in North Canary watching rugby the other
day at Glenmark and the semi finals, and they are
very similar to us, but they're a lot closer to Lamming.
Some of the low country looked like to me a
good share of rain it would come away, but the
hill country is really dry and we're the same. We
got thirty one miller rain the other day and I
think we've had a ten or a dozen before that,
and we're lucky we got it without frost in the ground.
There was no runoff. But if I was up the
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hill muster in the other day, you look over the
miniotato and all those week pins are full, so it's loud.
Stock will in a lot of places too. But the
irrigation dam is incredibly low, so you know it's important.
I think that we get another rain in the spring
because we are dry.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
But no better you good farming folk up on the
manny a toto love two things as far as I
can see, duck shoot like three things, duck shooting, beer
and rugby. Well, has anyone left in rain fairly? And
where to burn? Or are they all down on then
eating for the week.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
I've been away since Wednesdays. I don't know what the
population looks like, but there'll be a fear few come
down for the weekend. And there's a great thing because
it's pretty pretty tough up there for the last six months.
So it'd be a good idea for a lot of
mums and dads and the kids to get off from
town and go to the rugby. And if you be
here somewhere else, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
What about your old sparring partner Andrew ware Like, there's
no show without punch, He'll be He'll be here, no doubt.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Yeah, he was down last night and he's got the
Captain's run this afternoon and he's got a few kids
coming down with him to go out to that, so yeah,
and yeah, he's got the kids. He's going out and
sitting in the stand so he'll catch up and a
few as old mates. Is really good because like all
of us and like him, he needs to catch up
with you know, you work pretty hard. Then he's had
it more dry at that bottom end than we have,
sore looking forward to get to town.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Well, we were talking to Smiley about the All Blacks
chance the tab would favor a thirteen plus. I mean
head to head to the tab's got it pretty one sided.
I don't see it as a really strong England side,
but they have had some internationals playing into this. The
All Blacks are traditionally slow starters, but largely he's sort
of stuck with Ian Foster's team. Was there any surprises
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other than Pera Feta.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
No, not really, And I just think look through the reserves,
the are some pretty talented different comers coming through there
and it shows a style I think they're going to play,
and you know you'd have to be on your best
game for England. I think if we set the back
line a light. You know, we'd be pretty hard to handle.
I think we're pretty good team.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Are you going to stay in Dneed and are you
going to go home and lick your wounds?
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Jamie, I haven't got a ticket yet, and I don't
have any accommodation left from Duned, and I was trying
to trick them at the hospital see if I can
get another day. The food was fantastic, and theyone looks
out if.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You prepared to bunk him with about five other riverstyle farmers,
you can come and stay up at my place.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
Sounds a bit dodgy for me, Jamie.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
All right, ste Hey, thanks for coming in. Stay in
the studio because we've got, as I said, literally a
cast of thousands up next to the batter's box. Blair
Blizzard MacLean. He's come bearing gifts too, I might add,
Actually my place is the place to be. He sent
me a box of Blenheim bubbles. I don't know how
that'll go with the farmers, but anyhow, we'll chat to
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him before the end of the hour. Earlier this morning,
I caught up with labor leader Chris Hipkins. And if
you haven't caught up on the news, there's been a
landslide in the UK. The numbers are coming through. I
think we get the final numbers about four o'clock in
the morning our time, So that's not going to be
pretty for the Conservatives over there. Chris Brandolino on the
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weather and Barry Soper of Barry a couple of texts.
He's yet to respond. We may or may not be
chatting to Barry. Music chosen by our guest today. Smiley
chose back in Black by ac DC and Steweye. You
chose a bit of Chris Stapleton and a bit of
smooth Tennessee whiskey. We'll take a break and we'll see
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what We'll go from whiskey to wine. We'll see what
our viticulture correspondents got to offer on a musical front.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
On a warm summer's evening on a train bound from
nor met up with the gambling.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
We were both too tamelessly, so we two turns a stair.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
All right. Welcome back to the country, Blair Blizzard MacLean,
our viticulture correspondent based out of Blenham. He's made the
trip south to Dunedin for test wee ken and I
like your musical choice there, Blizzard that's pretty good. But
a Kenny Rodgers you would have had that back in
the day, because you realize Smiley was nearly an all
Black and bread a few Stewey Duncan nearly got to
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the That was at nineteen ninety Commonwealth Games. He could
run like the wind until he got too fat and
they moved him from wing wing to hooker for the Many.
For the Many a toto team. You, my friend, played
for Roxburgh in Central Otago. You played for three years
and you never scored a try.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Yeah, but we had some good three years Jamie. It's
a fun time back then.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
My favorite, my favorite stat from that. I'm sorry for
repeating myself, but a good story is worth telling. Again.
The bloke on the other wing was pretty quick, Johnny McKinnell.
He scored about forty five tries over those three seasons
sixty sixty and you didn't get a sausage.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
Yeah, no, Borden, come away.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I always play on the left wing.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Yeah, you know, tough times back then.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, I'm actually staying at my place today. Is one
of the finest first fives that played for Rivers to
I had a few games for Southland as well. Mark
Shall that I spent a lot of time playing outside him,
and I can tell you what he used to do.
We've probably listing on the way up. If it was
bad ball, he would pass it. If it was okay,
Balley would kick it. If it was a good ball,
he'd run it himself. So as that, you know, sometimes
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playing outside him you have to take a cut lunch
to footing. Anyhow, I digress. What's happening in the in
the wine industry? Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 8 (18:16):
Actually, we had a big conference sort of last week.
A bit of tough times in the one industry. You know,
we've had two big years pretty much over five hundred
thousand tons of grapes harvested twenty twenty three and twenty
twenty two. So that's left us with a surplus light
vintage this year, down by twenty one percent, and we've
probably got fifty one million liters of seventy on blanc
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floating around in Marlborough that needs to be consumed now.
So your mate from Riversdale might be able to help
us out with that.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
They might be more use on beer than thank you.
But yeah, domestically, are we doing enough to promote a
small market or are people moving away? From wine. Look
at the young kids in that today. They don't drink wine.
Speaker 8 (18:58):
No, there is a bit of a change world market cider,
you know, spirits, buts and pieces like that. So, and
of course the big surge is no alcohol wine or
low alcohol wine. So there's a lot of that happening.
Probably won't be.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Drunken shaking that one. I don't think. I don't think
none alcohol's made the way to the many Atoto or
the weather Burn tavern.
Speaker 8 (19:17):
He doesn't look like he's doing dry July do No,
he's not a Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
But it is Monte the wine industry, and I know Emerson,
so I'll get a plug in for them. They do
an excellent zero percent beer, the Little Bird. It's very good.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
That's good because that's where we're going for lunch next. Yeah.
So no, there is that that that market is going
great guns. But there's just just a lot of normal
sevon blanc around so gat So we normally plant one
thousand hectares a year in Malborough of grapes, ninety percent
of it save blanc. We're down probably three or four
hundred hectares of grapes be planted this year just because
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of you know, infrastructure cap X everybody. There's just not
enough money around. So things are tight in the in
the Wye market.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And what's happening on the vineyards at the moment.
Speaker 8 (20:02):
Pruning, pruning and pruning and a bit of balance fertilizing
and on and lots of stuff from vegage rights and
fruitfeed but no lots lots of pruning and wine blending
and the wineries pretty much so they're making making blends
to get out there. Twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
All right, hey, we'll come back to you because I
want to ask you where did that box of bubbles
come from? Who do we need to shamelessly plug for that?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (20:26):
That's Forest of State. Actually yeah, they said, see as
you're doing such a good job mental health and plus
you get a lot of booze drinkers coming around to
your place.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, we can give some to our guests. So what
do they do? Where are they?
Speaker 8 (20:38):
Both forested stat and just out of rainwork. Nice small winery,
good team there, and they do a low alcohol wine
as well. Not what I sent you, but yeah no,
so there's yeah, good good people. John Forrest and Bridget
and her team there.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
All right, there we go. That's Blair blizzard MacLean here
on the country picking the Gambler. We're going to take
a break on the other side of it. Earlier this
morning I caught up with Chrispkins and before you thrash
me on the text line. We speak to all parties
apart from the Greens. Chloe hasn't answered my call to
be on the show. But and to party Mary and
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that they're not a political party, their activists, to be honest,
everyone else we've got to give a crack to to
try and keep things fair. So anyhow, we will no
laughter in the cheap seats please, we're going to take
a break. Chris hip can some interesting comments he made
about the UK election. I think he's coming down to
the footy as well. Before the end of the hour,
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Chris Brandolino from NIWA and let me check my phone.
I haven't. I don't think Barry's missing an action somewhere,
so there may not be a Barry soaper, but we've
still got the Graham Murray story to come from. Smiley.
He tells me he needs a clean thirty seconds to
get rid of it. We'll see how he goes. A
week later in the hour and.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
The name deathly Quaid and his face lost tile Express.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
You've feinted a few lips and ruled and curldure tended he's.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
A Labour's leader and like half the rest of the country,
well that's a bit of an exaggeration, like perhaps thirty
thousand to the rest of the country. He's making his
way to the Eden for the test tomorrow. We might
finish with that, Chris Sipkins, but I want to start
with the big news on the world stage today, and
that is a labor landslide that is going to happen
in the UK. We don't know the exit poles as
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we record this interview, but it's going to be a landslide.
Does it give you faith hope for the future.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I think what it.
Speaker 9 (22:29):
Shows is that you know, politics at the moment is
moving in pretty dramatic shifts all around the world. You know,
in the UK the last UK election, Boris Johnson won
a big majority and now the Conservatives have been defeated
by a big majority. And it shows that you know,
things can change very quickly, and that means that our
work is the New Zealand's opposition is really really important
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because things can shift a lot in the next two years.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Mind you, isn't there a bit of a movement worldwide
politically going to the right or even the far right?
Look France probably, what could happen in the US? I'd
be interested to get your thoughts on that one. Was
it is it Brazil or Argentina one of those countries
has gone really far right?
Speaker 9 (23:11):
No, well, Brazil actually moved to the left and the
last presidential elections. And I think what we've seen though
over the last eighteen months or so is that around
the world, governments that lead to their country through the
global pandemics have feared pretty badly when it comes to
election day. And that was same in New Zealand, it
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was Australia. Even in the US. I mean that was
a little different in that let that election happen in
the middle of the pandemic. But generally governments that have
been in office during the during that time have been
defeated when the next general election rolls around.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I want to ask you about your two day caucus
retreat and the portfolios. I think I was watching One
News I think it was One News, and the reporter
asked you have you got dead would in your caucus
or did all the dead wood get swept aside, and
the landslide of the twenty twenty three election.
Speaker 9 (24:04):
Now we've got a caucus of thirty four MPs. I've
had a bit of turnover since the election, you know,
a few retirements and a few new people coming in
or coming back in, and everyone's contributing. Everyone's working very hard,
and you know, we've managed to avoid what often happens
when you lose an election and you end up in opposition.
People are actually working really constructively together. We're not seeing
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that sort of infighting and scrapping that has characterized previous
election losses for both Labor and National and I think
that's a sign that the team's in good shape.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Well, you've hardly changed any portfolios at all.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
Well, I don't actually agree with that. I mean, if
you look at some of the big portfolios, there are
new people in them, so you know, in Karen mcinolty
and Housing Joe Luxton, in the primary industry's portfolio, there
are quite a few different spokespeople in key roles, and
some of the people who were ministers before the last
election it actually only had those roles short period of time.
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So you know, doctor Aisheverel took on being Minister of
Health at the beginning of last year, and so I
wasn't going to take that portfolio offer after she'd only
had it for nine months.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Well, let's talk about housing. Have the nets got it
wrong going out as well as up? Shouldn't we just
go up? Shouldn't we ring fence Auckland and say that's enough,
good land you've grabbed, good food producing land you've grabbed.
Speaker 9 (25:21):
If you want to expand, to go up, it's not
just about going up. It's also about making sure we're
making best use of the land that we've already got
for housing. So if you look at some of the
housing land that we already have Southwest Auckland and so on,
it's pretty inefficiently used, and we could use that much
more efficiently with higher density housing still have really good,
high quality housing. We have to invest in the infrastructure
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for that. I am worried that National's plan will see
highly productive land being taken for housing, and I don't
think that's in the country's best interest Ultimately. You know,
people who live in those houses still need to eat,
and you still need to have higher productive, high quality
land relatively close to your major population centers in order
to produce the fresh food that the people who live
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in those population centers need.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I just want to finish with your AG team or
your AG portfolio. Joe Luxton's being very consoliatory, perhaps unlike
her predecessor Damien, who was always up for a bit
of a scrap, but you always knew where Damien stood
to be fair. I was at the Primary Industry conference
in Wellington this week. Joe was there also, Rachel Brooking
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at Dunedin Lawyer. What's her connection with AGG?
Speaker 9 (26:32):
Rachel's our environment spokesperson, and you know, one of the
things that we do have to work through with the
primary sector is to make sure that our environmental policies
are consistent with the commitments that we have around the
primary industries as well. You know, we're a food producing nation.
We want our primary sectors to thrive and to succeed,
and making sure that we have the right environmental policies
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for that to happen and for us to protect our environment.
It's actually pretty cool business for us.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Are you an out and out Hugby fan or a
Sisters the junket? Courtesy of being leader of the opposition,
The reason you're coming down to Dunedin.
Speaker 9 (27:06):
Oh look, I love the league. I enjoy watching the
All Blacks. Pay enjoy watching the Hurricanes when they're winning,
which you know is a Hurricane supporter, and I have
to tell you it's a bit of a bix spag sometimes.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Well, you enjoy your weekend. I know you've already had
one trip to Dunedin this week, Chris Hopkins. You enjoy
your trip down for the footy. It's going to be
a wonderful occasion. And I know you'll argue otherwise, being
a good welling Tonian. And the Cake Tin used to
be the best venue in the country for a Test match.
It has been overtaken by Dunedin. No one does a
Test better than Dunedin. We might see around about the traps,
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all right.
Speaker 9 (27:40):
We might have to as ready disagree with that. I
do have to say a full sight father, pretty impressive venue.
Cheers Jamies.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
There we go, Chris Hopkins. Something we prepared awe but
earlier this morning. Yep, like thirty thousand others, he's going
to be in town here in Dunedin for the Test match.
Rases first Test match, the beginning of an air. We've
got the father of the All Black Captain Scott Barrett,
also making his debut as All Black Captain in the studio.
(28:06):
The Graham Murray story is coming. There's a few texts
coming in, so they want more of Smiley and less
of Chris Sipkins. We're being as fair as we can.
We've got to be politically balanced on this one. Now
that between the three of them, I said, any volunteers
to read the sports news. Smiley ducked for cover. Stew's
claiming a broken wing. So Blair Blizzard MacLean for the
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sports news. But before we do that, here's Michelle with
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Speaker 2 (29:33):
Now my mates at AFCO are paying good money to
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Oh you wouldn't get a bit closer to the Mica.
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Speaker 8 (29:44):
Richie Muwanga has plans to continue as an All Black.
The thirty year old playmaker is ineligible for national selection
at present. After signing a three year deal to play
in Japan. Wang Ant says he plans to return in
time to push for the next World Cup in twenty
twenty seven in Australia. It's quite exciting.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Well no, it's not really you never give a sucker
an even Damien McKenzie will make every post on a
smile is nodding and Richie might have left us run
too late. We'll see what happens there. All great players,
to be fair.
Speaker 8 (30:13):
True, Okay, the football Ferns have a big chance in
the absence of veteran stroker Hannah Wilkinson from the Olympic squad,
the match winner from last year's World Cup opener. That's
the view of interim coach Michael Mayne. Where Millie Kleig,
Jackie Hand, Grace Jail, Gabby Rennie and in the India
page Riley picked over Wilkinson for Paris. And lastly, Keey Golfer's.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Right, I've got to get to the rugby tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (30:40):
Tom that on this is it?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Jamie Yes has a cold time out at one o'clock.
But do we really need this story? What is it about?
Speaker 8 (30:48):
It's Keey golfers, Ryan Fox and zam Joan and they
are playing in the European Tour in Munich.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
There we go Blair, Bliss and MacLean on the elongated
Sports News. Up next, Chris Brandolino on the Weather and
Smiley Barrett with the Graham Murray story. Ponder that one.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Don't take a good load.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
The freezees that I ram. Here's my favorite weather man, well,
certainly on a Friday on the country, Chris Brando Lena
from newa I've got to be careful with you, weather
man because you're so territorial. Chris, no time to waste, busy,
busy show today. Talk to me about how warm we
need to rug up tomorrow night and Dunedin. If we're
heading along to the test.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
A look, temperature is probably around the eight degree mark
in the early evening hours, but there will be a
bit of a breeze Jamie. So we're looking at winds
coming from the probably a southwesterly for tomorrow in the
evening late afternoon, and winds will be gusting I would
say upwards of fifty maybe sixty k So it's that
wind chill that you will notice that'll really add a
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bit of a bite to the air. But if there
were no wind, it really wouldn't be that bad. But
with the wind it'll feel a bit nippy.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Well, punt's going along to the rugby. Remember the role
of thumb. It's three degrees warmer in the stadium. Then outside,
but if you're sitting anywhere near those corners, it can
get away bit chilly. So rug got barm. Look next week,
we've got a dirty, big high. And I shouldn't say
dirty big high because it's a welcoming high. Is going
to plunk itself over the country. That's the sort of
winter weather I love. Chris.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Yeah, this is going to be a like speaking of rugby,
this is like a big rugby player this high. I
mean we use tech to pascals. If you're an old
school og original games there, that's millbars, and this is
going to be more than ten forty hecta pascals. It's
I'm the home barometer. In fact, some of the guidance
suggests maybe close to ten forty five. Now, to put
(32:41):
that in context, the record or the highest mean sea
level pressure readings on record in New Zealand are in
the mid ten forties, and in June twenty sixteen we
had ten forty five across the South Island, and in
June twenty nineteen the pressure reaches highs ten forty three
in the North Island. I'm not saying those records are
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gonna fall, Jamie, but I am saying they're gonna be contested.
So that tells you a really strong high pressure near
record at least, and that'll happen during the week next week.
And with that, Jamie, with the long nights, we're gonna
get some severe and some hard frost. We're talking many areas,
many consecutive days, will get frost and fog, black ice,
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things like that. There won't be much in the way
of rain. Some places in the valleys across the South
Island may struggle to get above zero because the league's
called a very strong inversion where the coldest air is
down below and it's actually a bit warmeras to go
up maybe a few hundred meters. So that's next week's weather.
And with that high of course, comes very little rainfall,
so very dry.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Okay, and really quickly to finish on, you've got a
bit of a warning at advance warning full warned is
forearmed for the following week second wake of school holidays,
maybe some Maija Ryan Evans.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Yeah, we've gotta watch for an atmospheric river, Jamie. Just
the heads up. You know that high I talked about,
it's going to shift east. The air goes northerly or
a northerly quarter, so northwest and northeast, and that will
drive down much warmer air, so a big change in
the temperature, but it'll also drag down moisture, a thin
corridor of moisture. Where that goes, we'll see. But west
of the southbound maybe the North Island could see some
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heavier rainfall in that kind of second week of school holiday.
So the second half of July looks much different than
the first half. First half cold and dry, second half
would be moist and warm.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
There we got Chris Brandelena from nav thanks to your time.
You have a good weekend and you sir seven away
from one hey. Just before we wrap it with Smiley
Barrett and the Graham Moory's story, looking forward to this one.
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Last word to you. The Graham Murray story. Now, is
this broadcastable? That's a good story. I take it you've
got like a minute definitely broadcast all right where you go.
You might seek some revenge on Graham Murray having one
(35:38):
on you yesterday.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
No, not at all. Oh, anyway, I just like to congratulate.
I wish coastal best luck for semi final tomorrow. You go,
boys will be rooting for you. So anyway, back back
in the day, Robin II took eight children, sorry six
children Ireland and we farmed on a prominent diary from
(35:59):
over there for Michael Murphy, which it was a jersey
head been jersey had about the only jersey It was
the only jersey head in island. And the milk from
that farm went off to Dublin to make Irish Bailey's cream. Anyway,
so I was fortunate enough to bring a few boxes
back home and when we got home we had we
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need a new coach for Coastal, and I talked to
Ray Bren and John Washer, and so we shot down
to WASH's place and said, well, you know I've got
I've got.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You've got a minute, smile, I've got a box.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
So I grabbed, I grabbed my brother, Timmy Earley, Ellen
Crowley and Peter Groves and Scottie Patters until we rolled
on down there. I said, Goss, you know we need
a coach. And uh, anyway, we had a few beers
and by the way, you coach and Coastal, and I've
got a box. I've got a crate of Irish baileys
that's been sitting on nice An Island for thirty years.
(36:54):
And anyway, I just got to the the cellar when
we got home, you see, and it was it had
to be cold, you see, and Wash had no ice.
So I put it the fridge and thirty seconds and
now later we got it out and hold up to
his face and it's not cold enough and not cold,
and Goss is looking his lips and everyone else is
looking their lips. So we banged her in there for
another half an air and got there again. And oh
it's still not cold enoughing it's right. Half a near
(37:15):
lader got there. No, it's just good. So we poured
it all out and we had eight shot glasses down
the hitch and oh they all locked their lips and
they thought, oh, this is great. And little did I
know that I just brought the bottle up at Roodie
Pop up the road.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
There.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
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the day. For today, go the All Blacks.
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