July 11, 2024 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Emma Poole, Willy Leferink, Chris Brandolino, Craig Hickman, and Barry Soper.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Fred You're specialist in
John Deere construction equipment.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
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It's not as a really reasonab as Yeah, screaming shall
bish me yah Gooday New Zealand. This is the Country
I Am Jamie McKay kicking it off with Shania Twain
(00:45):
going a bit country on a Friday, just because we can. Man,
I Feel Like a Woman. Theme song to our opening
guests today twenty twenty three f MG Young Farmer of
the Year Emma Paul. She's alive on the ground. That
stay too. Of the contest Claudland's Events Center and the trial.
(01:05):
We're going to chat to Willie Leffrink, former Dairy chair
of Federated Farmers, Mid Canterbury dairy farmer and more importantly
for the purposes of today's conversation, he's a Sinley supplier.
The big vote got the tick of approval. They didn't
really have any other option. Yesterday afternoon we'll discuss what
it means for the future of Sinlay. Former Sheer Market
(01:27):
darling Chris Brandelino from NIWA on the weather Craig Hickman,
Mid Canterbury theme on the show today social media influencer
Mid Canterbury Kalkok. He supplies Fonterra, not Sinlay, but he's
been doing TikTok videos for his large fan base about
the Sinlay vote. Barry Soper on politics, Well, new political
(01:50):
poll out has the Nats putting a good gap between
them and Labor thirty seven point six versus just under
twenty six percent. The Greens is sort of staate. Black's
doing okay and when he's still hanging in there, more
about that, and poor old Joe Biden. Christopher Luxen had
a pull of side is that what they call with him,
(02:10):
and he said he was very impressed by the sharpness
of Biden. Well, if you've heard his faupa earlier from
earlier this morning when he introduced President Zelenski as President Putin,
you would have to beg to differ on that one. Right,
Let's get straight into it. Hopefully she's hanging in there
for me. Man. She feels like a woman and she
was the first woman to break the grass ceiling. Emma Paul,
(02:34):
Good afternoon, you are the reigning champion. Tomorrow night you
pass over the cloak of knowledge. This year, you're an
organizer rather than a contestant. What's it like being on
the other side, goody, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
It's a beautiful day here and I can tell you what. Yet,
being on the other side is a very different experience altogether.
So so much goes into these contests and I never
really had an appreciation of it until I had to
help organize one. It's everyone's done a stellar job and
pulled it off, and it is looking so so good
here and there's lots of people showed up today, so
that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
And you've got a great venue in Hamilton. It's probably
let's face at Hamilton. I argue maybe that Palmerston North is,
but Hamilton probably can claim to be the farming capital,
certainly the dairy farming capital of the country. How do
you fit all this in? You constantly amaze me, Emma,
and I mean that with all due respect and admiration,
because you're a dairy farmer, you're a vet, you have
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two young children, including a brand new one, and you
find time to run this event.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
It's been a bit of a handful. We've actually parked
up a horse load, made a breastfeeding station in one
of the sheds. So we've got it all under control here, Jamie.
But yes, it is a bit going on, and I
will be happy to hand that cloak over to another
deserving contestant tomorrow night. And yeah, let them see the
lights and take a bit of a backstage after that.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
You want to talk about the evolution of the com test.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Just about how it's changed, Jamie. So I think back
in the day we used to see contestants. I think
they cut the throat of a few sheep and butcher
them themselves. But obviously that doesn't fly so much these days,
and it didn't go well with the spectators. So this
year we've tried to really design a spectator centric event
so that there's something for everyone to watch, but it's
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pleasing on the eyes. So the contestants have just finished
a butchery challenge, but the lamb packers was presented for
them to make it a bit more presentable, so it
was neat to see them go through that. And we've
also had the Young Butcher of the Year here. He
was doing a demonstration so we could see what the
pro looks like, which was neat for the crowd to see.
So it has changed over the years, that's for sure,
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but it's looking good.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Talk me through what happened yesterday, what's happened thus far today,
and will happen this afternoon, because I'm assuming you've got Agrisports,
and then what is the format for tomorrow evening?
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yep, So yesterday they did the technical day, so they
would have done an excit in an hr challenge, and
then today they started off in the frost and they
started their farmlets. So they've got a miniature farm that
they've got complete with water troughs and fencing, and they've
got a live stock auction that they've got to go
to this afternoon to purchase stock for their miniature farm.
And yeah, they've had the butchery challenge, and the afternoon
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will finish with Agrisports, which I can see a bunch
of new Holland boomers and the whole of the stallion
feeders and Honda quad bikes, so it looks like a
good lineup for them there as well. And then tomorrow
evening starting at five o'clock, will be in the Cordland's
Events Center with the night show there in the quiz
to top it all off and name that final winner.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And it's a huge events center. It's magnificent. I've been
there for the Balanced Farm Environment Awards. Is it sold out?
Speaker 5 (05:43):
I'm not sure about where the tickets are at at
the moment, Jamie, but last time I checked, we were
heading towards the seven hundred people mark heading to their
events very night, So pretty huge. And as I'm standing
here on the field today, there is just so many
people and being so central in Hamilton, it's attracting people
off the streets in helping to bridge that urban gets
that we talk about sometimes. So they're wandering in here
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and having a lot and seeing all the good things
about farming.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Now, one thing we can guarantee, Emma Paul twenty twenty
three Young Farmer of the Year f MG Young Farmer
of the Year. They do a great job supporting this contest.
You will not be handling the cloak of knowledge over
to a female because they're all blokes this year, and
they're all first timers.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yep, No, they are all blokes that I know of,
so yeah, it will be what do.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
You mean, what do you mean? What do you mean
that you know of? A is one of them going
to transition or something?
Speaker 6 (06:33):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Well I'm pleased that. I was thinking if someone becomes
non binary, I think I'll give up on the Young
Farmer of the Year contest. But these are good, solid blokes.
I'll just move on because I'm just going to get
myself in trouble going down that rabbit hole. But have
you got you know all first timers? Has who's caught
your eye?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Ah? There, it's going to be a very tight field.
But yeah, some of these South them boys are definitely
putting on a good show. I've seen a couple of
them work things out that have been pretty tricky this
morning with ed Gerris as Ye definitely putting on a
tidy show, and Zack as well, and then there's young
Archie as well. Very hard to pick up the stage, Jamie.
I don't know who will take it out.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Well, just for the listener's sake, I'll quickly run through them.
You mentioned a couple of them, Gareth Mccirtchheer, there is
a rangy George Dodson, Tasman, Zach Thomas who you mentioned
from Otago, Southland, Dennis Main the local lad why kat
Obay have plenty, Zane Jones Taranaki, Manora two East Coast
is Archie Woodhouse who you mentioned, and Northern is Caleb Edie.
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So there you go. Those are the finalists and we'll
know who the winner is at about what time tomorrow night? Emma?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Oh, I think we'll find out about nine o'clock. But yeah,
depends how well the evening goes as foss.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Is there a live stream of it for people, because
unfortunately it's not covered on Telly.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
And yes on. If you go on to Facebook and
type in FMG Young Crumbley you should be able to
follow or along. If they don't get the live stream up.
At least you'll be able to see a couple of
pictures posted when the winner is announced.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Well well I wait that with baited breath, So about
to watch the test tomorrow night. Just when it's finished,
you can flick over and see who the twenty twenty
four FMG Young Farmer of the Year is. Emma, Look,
thank you very much for your time. You're doing a
wonderful job. As your brother Tim there today as well.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
He is floating around. Yep, I've seen him having a
chat to people. So yep, everyone's here that needs to
be here, Jamie. It's good to see.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Good on you. I know you're a busy woman. Thanks
for your time.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
She is, Jamie, there, she is.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
She's wonderful. Emma Paul the first woman to win the
Young Farmer of the Year title last year, and her
older brother Tim won it the year before. I keep
repeating myself here. Her husband was runner up the year
before as well, Chris Paul. What a dynamic family they are,
the Dungeons slash Paul's right, Well, take a break. The
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other big story from yes the was the Sinlay voter
was always only going to go one way because otherwise
they would have had to have gone into liquidation, I'd imagine.
But is it a stay of execution or have they
got a plan to get the former sheer market darling
Sinlay back to what it once proudly was and have
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they got too cute with their product mix? Where did
it all go wrong for Sinlay. We're going to talk
to Willie Leffrink, former dairy chair of Federated Farmers about
that one. Chris Brandolino on the weather, We've had a
magnificent weeker weather around the country because they've had a
big high planked over top of us last week. When
we spoke to him, he said, we're going to get
a wetter second week of the school holidays. We'll see
(09:43):
if he's still sticking with that. Forecus Craig Hickman, social
media influencer TikToker. I don't even know what TikTok is.
I do know what it is, but I can't be
bothered with it. But he is an influencer and he's
been putting out TikTok videos this morning about Sinlay and Barry.
So poor old Biden. Things go from bad to worse
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for him. He's at the NATO conference or summit. Obviously,
Chris Luson's there. He was impressed by Biden's sharpness and
then Biden makes a terrible faux pa this morning. And
the latest political poll it seems that people are falling
in behind the coalition government. We've got all that to
do before the end of the hour. Michelle will be
(10:23):
in here with rural news and we'll update sports news
for you as well as well.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Ma'am.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
She litle warmer wis n J. There's a party downtown.
You're fishing while we've tracked him down. Former Federated Farmer's
Dairy chair Willy Leffrink, mid Canterbury dairy farmer and supplier
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to Sinlay. And then we've excused the road noise in
the background because Willy, you're off to provide meals on
wheels for the good folk of mid Canterbury. Good on you,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
It's a lines project and we do that every probably
two months.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yes, well, Sinlay, if you'll excuse the bad puns, probably
needed a bit of meals on wheels. It certainly needed
a bit of help. What did yesterday's vote mean for you?
Is this a stay of execution?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, I don't think so. I think there is a
plan and I'm really delighted that a Tool and Bright
theres have sat around the table now, so I think
they have a plan going forward. And it also means
that I get paid next week, by the end of
the week, because it's you know, it's a big money
coming in. Do we do winter milk? And I was
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a bit nervous about not getting paid well when.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I mentioned a stay of execution. Yes, they've bought some
time because they've got the low from a Bright Dairy
one hundred and thirty million to reash to ensure you
can make your debt repayment due on July the fifteenth,
which was extended I think from about March. But I'm
hearing that could well be a run on the bank
as far as Sinley suppliers go. Is it true that
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up to half of them have supplied a notice to
basically leave the company?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
So I don't know how many it is. It's a
lot more than fifty percent. But I think they have
a plan in place to stop this from happening. And
this only ventures only in two years up and they
definitely have to make up to us for what they
did to us last year. Of course, you know we
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were That's why we're getting so much money now, because
up to last month, our payouts were a dollar behind
Fonterra in advance threat.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
I look at the share price, should I say of Sindley.
Back in twenty nineteen, the shares were worth ten dollars.
I think they finished yesterday after the announcement at thirty
two cents. I had a look a bit earlier this morning.
I think they've gone up to thirty five cents. But
this is a drop in the ocean. This is like,
what's my quick maths on this one? The share price
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is literally only about three or four percent of what
it used to be.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Yes and no.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
It's a sad state of affairs. And I think that's
why a lot of shareholders also volded in favor, because
it wasn't much to be gained from volding against.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Where did Sinleay go wrong? From a ten dollars share
price and a bit of a share market darling back
in twenty nineteen to where it is now, they.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Met some like, from the outsider's point of view, silly decisions.
And I think they've got two big too quick on
it hold for you know, good fortunes in dual cause.
But they couldn't foresee that COVID would have such a
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dramatic impact in the world.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Did they get too cute in terms of their product mix,
too many eggs in an infant formula basket?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I think that's definitely the case, because the birth rate
in China has dropped from twenty million to eight million.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
And if we look at Fonterra, they've kind of gone
back to their knitting. They've got rid of their consumer
brands or are going to, so they're going to stick
basically to the commodity. And I look at Open Country,
the second biggest dairy company in this country. They seem
to be rather successful on just sticking to their knitting,
providing the commodity, be it powder or cheese.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, I know, but we haven't had to go back
that long when Fonterra was in the doldrums, and in
the end the farmers had to pay the price for
that by the half in the value of their shares
as well.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I mean, that's still a good result compared to you
guys at Sinlay.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, and a lot of us don't have shares, and
up to now certainly hasn't hasn't defaulted on not paying
for the milk.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Hell, sinilely going to get out of us. You're gonna
have to do a capital raise. Our suppliers like yourself
going to have to buy some shears.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
It's not requested from us, but I think right there
he is has indicated that they're willing to buy shares.
So there is a plan in place, and we haven't
been asked to buy shares.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Now, would you personally fork out to buy Sinlay shares
at the moment?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Well, I bought some shares on the opportunity, yes, And
I'm you know, just a punter, you know, I have
other shares and other businesses as well.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Okay, welly I'll let you go because I know you've
got to do meals on wheels in mid Canterbury there.
Just tell me how the run into carving's going. You
must be getting close, are you.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, we've just finished the carving and right into it
again in a couple of weeks. So we had the
first set of twins born day before yesterday.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, those are your spring carvers. Of course you've got
your autumn carvers as well. You're a real sucker for
punishment milking all year round. I admire your enthusiasm. Hey,
thanks for some of your time today on the Country,
Willie Leffern. Can you keep up the good work. Thanks Willy,
it's twenty six after twelve you. Feedback is always appreciated
here on the Country. Our text line is five double
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O nine. Now Michelle Watt's wandered in here. Now here's
the question for today. Did I do a Biden? Have
I just done a Biden?
Speaker 6 (16:39):
I don't think you did.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Jo Well, I was obviously listening because I was talking,
but I'm maybe losing my marbles. John says, funny, you
made the same mistake about putin that Biden made so
you need this is all archived. All this audio. You
can run out during the commercial break and find out
whither I did a Biden myself talking about Biden wrongly
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introducing Vladimir Zelenski as Vladimir Putin at that the NATO summer.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Oh, I'll go look into that during their.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
No, you promise you will tell me if I've lost
my marbles.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Oh, I don't know if I'm brave enough for that one, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I sometimes wonder my South, but we're compared to Joe Biden.
I think I'm still doing okay, but not me up
for debate as well. Anyhow, send us your feedback. If
I did do a Biden, let me know and I'll
apologize profusely. Up next, we're going to have a look
at the weather with Friday weather guy Chris Brandolino. This
time a week ago, he said, we're going to get
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a great week. We've had a great winter week, especially
where we are down on the deep South high dominating things.
But are we going to get wet next week? We'll
find out next on the country.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
I've had a lot of mouth past burst mind and
a couple beautiful girls.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Tell me you that true break down.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
I'll run out politicians, Abby found out of politics.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
One to counter things.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Agawn, Welcome back to the country. The song is Bear
Never Broke My Heart. Gota love country music. We're going
country on a Friday here on the country. Chris Brandolino,
Nila weather guy, native New Yorker. What did you make
of Biden's fopab Chris Brandolino, Oh, I did.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
Look, I just saw what I saw online. I didn't
see it live. But yeah, I guess if if your
president invited, it probably doesn't help your cause when people
are questioned in your ability to lead. I guess, to
put mildly.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Well, I won't ask you to forecast the November election.
I'll ask you to forecast next week because, as predicted
you said this time a week ago, we're going to
get a great week, a great winter week, and we've
had that high. I love when a weather like that.
Is it gonna change dramatically next week?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah? It is.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
And we mentioned this last week too, Jamie. If I
believe how second week of school holidays, using that as
kind of a reference point would be warmer, kind of
a pattern change and a better chance of rain. And
that's holding true. That pivot point will happen probably on Sunday,
So we got another cold morning tonight or tomorrow morning,
they should say, and tonight and so more frost tomorrow morning.
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For basically, if you have frost this morning, you're gonna
have frost again tomorrow morning. That's probably the best way
to put it. There will be another dry afternoon tomorrow,
the exception Hawks Bay on shore flow means showers, maybe
some snow buff twelve hundred meters root Henas for example,
and then we'll get that northerly will probably northeasterly flow
Jamie on Sunday, that'll increase for the upper North Island,
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and by sunset on Sunday rain probably breaking out north
of Auckland City across Northland, and that'll mean probably a
wet day on Monday for much much of the North
Island from Tedanaki to the Waikato to be awkloed in
Northland Now regions, but dry elsewhere. Generally speaking, some Monday
it looks to be a wet day in those areas,
but it's gonna be a mild or unsettled period next week.
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Won't rain every day and all the time, but it
just you know, the threat of rain, and then we'll
have to watch, Jamie, the potential. You know, if we're talking, Actually,
you and I won't be talking next Friday. I'm going
to taking a few days off next week. But if
we were talking next Friday, Jamie, we'd probably be talking
about a potentially significant low bringing heavy rain and wind
for next week in the following weekend.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Well, don't tell me that's gonna land on hawks by
Tyraffady gives been sort of East Coast region because that's
the last thing I need.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
Yeah, look, I'm fully aware that I'm certainly aware of
the sensitivities, you know as Yeah, believe me, I am aware.
And unfortunately, you know it's in the conversation. You know
where where the worst weather goes. If you know, look
to week away. These things may change, and hopefully it
changes for the better. And there's some rain, it's nothing
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of any significance, so that would be great. But unfortunately,
one of the outcomes on the table is that it
does rain hard and there's a good amount of wind
and it affects the North Island. So that is on
the table. We have a week eight days to see
how things kind of evolve with time, and we'll see
how that goes. But basically there could be even more
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opportunities Jamie, after that. So as mentioned last week, and
I'll just reiterate it again after Saturday, from Sunday and beyond,
that's going to kind of mark a period where it's
a different kind of flavor. It's a different theme. It's milder,
it's not as cold, it's not as settled, and chances
for rain will be increased, and there could be some
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opportunities for some heavy rain events between say Monday and
the end of the month. So second half of the
month looks to be different than the first halfening.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Well, I hope you got your forecast horribly wrong, but
full warned is full armed. Chris, Lena, you enjoy a
few days off next week. We'll catch you back in
a fortnight.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
I look forward to it.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
There we got Chris Brandoleno and was we're the guy. Oh,
we're going to take a break. I sent Michelle out
to go through our logs to check if I did
do with Biden. I don't know if you're right, John,
I'm not sure I made the same mistake. Maybe I did.
We'll check that out. Talking about Biden. We're going to
talk about Barry Soper about Biden in a new political
poll out which has the coalition government performing better comparatively
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to the center left Labour's languishing it just under twenty
six percent, which is not good at all. The NATS
on thirty seven point six. And was Christopher Luxen being
a bit of a fanboy over in America. This is
a guy who spent a good part of his life,
by the way, and this is by no means of criticism.
The guy is fanatical. This is Luxon about the history
(22:55):
of American presidents. It's his thing. He knows more about
it than anyone else I know, studies it closely, so
no doubt he would have been excited when he got
to rub shoulders with the President. Anyhow, we'll talk to
Barry Sober about that one up next, it is Rural
News with Michelle and Sports News and England have apparently
lost their best player ahead of the second Test at
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Eden Park tomorrow night.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
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Speaker 4 (23:31):
Welcome back to the Country as we go Country on
a Friday. This is Morgan Wollen, very very catchy. Indeed, right,
here's Michelle with the latest in rural news. Just before
we do that, did I do a Biden? I sent
you out to check.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
I don't think you did. I combed it with a
fine tooth listening.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Come.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
But you know, maybe my ears are just as bad
as Biden's. Maybe we're both the same. Ay, we're like
those two old muppets.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
On the You know, wow, I think you're doing yourself
a bit of a deservice there. Anyhow, we we'll get
to the bottom of whether I did a Biden, because
if I did, I need to take a serious look
at myself. What's the name that Hollywood star George helped
me out here, Tony Ploney, thank you very much, the
nes espresso man. George has said that Joe's got a
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step aside and he's one of the big funders of
the party. So interesting times. I tell it, if you've
got nothing better to do of a night, and luckily
I was in the Riversdale Golf Club last night and
I had plenty to do. But if you've got nothing
better to do, go and watch Fox TV. That's a
comedy channel. At the moment, I can tell you that
now here's the latest and rural news.
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of Tekwiti will be sharing against French brothers Gillies and
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is a medieval town in the southwest of France. The
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Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yeah in sports news. A blow for England's hopes of
drawing the Test series against the All Blacks tomorrow at
Eden Park. Fullback George Fairbank, who was arguably England's best
player in the one point loss in Dunedin, has been
ruled out with a back injury. Freddie Stewart will replace Furbank.
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He wasn't originally in the English twenty three and New
zeal talking about Eden Park. New Zealand Cricket has gone
upstairs to the DRS regarding Auckland's Eden Park. A reluctance
to play anything other than limited overs fixtures at the
ground has emerged in recent years due to its relatively
small size. The last test was held in twenty eighteen,
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but the governing body is backing the flexible seating option
to accommodate a regulation sized oval, which is part of
the ground's proposed redevelopment. I don't know about that, Michelle.
I'm not a cricket purist or tragic, far from it,
but I think there's something wonderful about people sitting on
grassy banks, you know, like the Basin Reserve or Hagley Oval.
(26:35):
I don't know about being in a concrete jungle for
five days. What do you reckon?
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Yeah, I don't think my comment on the park in Auckland,
although I haven't watched cricket there have been lucky enough
to get there, but the shape of it, and I've
heard from people that have been there that are purists.
It's not designed for watching cricket, and I think that's
probably been the big thing. But yeah, I like sitting
on a grass bank to a university oval. Best place
to be.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah it is. That's a beautiful cricket ground. And there's
the one in New Plymouth, Gura part. Yeah. So there's
so many lovely cricket grounds around the country. Right, we're
going to take a break on the other side of it.
Social media influencer has been flat out after milking the
cows this morning. He probably hasn't even milked them yet.
I don't think he milks all year round. Carvin can't
be a mile away. Craig Hickman, dairy influencer making TikTok videos.
(27:19):
And Barry Sober on the latest political poll. And we'll
also have a yarn about poor old Joe. We needed Tom.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
I can't remember everything we said.
Speaker 9 (27:32):
We said it it sold me that.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
You will welcome back to the country, going country. Morgan Wallen,
isn't he good quarter her away from one?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Well?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
I phoned this bloke up this morning because I wasn't
sure whether I was going to be able to track
down Willie Leffrin because he was doing meals on wheels.
I thought I'd better get someone from mid Canterbury. And
who better to get than a social media influencer. I
would love to be one of those, Craig Hickman aka
dairy Man. That's an introduction, by the way.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Hello, you know, you.
Speaker 9 (28:04):
Know, being a social media influence is great and you
get invited to dinners and whatnot by radio celebrities, so
it's not a bad life. I can tell you that.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Now, another man who was at that dinner. This is
the South Island Airy event. The dinner and I invited
you and Duncan hum Along, two social media influences. Obviously
Duncan's behind NZ Farming Facebook page, but an influencer in
his own mind. Anyhow, Jeremy Rooks told you off for
being too solemn on the radio, Craig on the.
Speaker 9 (28:33):
Radio, So yes, if you, if you will try and
inject a bit more energy and cheerfulness. Thank you Jeremy
for the media one oh one pointer. I owe you.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
We'll get everything, he says, and divide it by two,
then divide it by two again. So this morning when
I teed you up for this interview, you were making
TikTok videos about Sinlay.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
Yeah, I'm surprised at how many people get their news
from social media rather than actually news stories. Plenty of
people had no idea that the boat was happening yesterday
and that the future of Sinlay hung in the balance.
So I let them know. And of course that the
boat went through, Bright Dairies all come up with the
money and sin Lay can pay their one hundred and
(29:16):
thirty million dollars to their bankers on Monday, which I
think is a good result. I'm very pleased with that result,
even though I'm not a Sinley supply.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Well, you're an outsider looking in. Where did Sinlay go wrong?
Speaker 9 (29:28):
It was Pocono obviously. What that cost them two hundred
and eighty million to build another ninety million dollars to
reabfit it to process non dairy product food products for abbots,
and it's losing thirty five million bucks a year. I mean,
it's just a huge rain on what they're profitable businesses,
(29:49):
which is dumb sandal And don't forget that Pocono business
has only got something like sixty dairy farmers supplying it
compared with Dumb Sandal with two hundred and fifty, a
lot of money invested for an underutilized death set. There's
losing money now.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
I know you didn't get a chance to hear. Willy
left frankhin earlier in the air and I threw this
one at him and I said, I've heard that half
of the suppliers have got their notice of ceasing supply
or whatever you call it in, so they've got their
backsides covered so they can get out in a couple
of years if it doesn't work out. And he said
it's well more than half. Will there be a run
(30:25):
on the bank. What are you hearing?
Speaker 9 (30:27):
That's their big danger. The big danger is not repaying
loans or raising well. Raising capital will be an issue,
but their big danger is losing supplies. I think there's
forty or fifty in Canterbury have come to Fonterra for
this season. There's the same again who wanted to come
this season and they have to wait till next season.
(30:47):
And then well over half had put their notice in
and I understand Willy is one of those. I saw
a newspaper report with Willy saying he had put his
notice in. So that is the danger. You've got one
under utilized, definitely not making money in the North Island.
And it would be a terrible shame if that turned
into the same story in Dunfandal, but it looks like
it might. But currently there, as in the whole of
(31:11):
course that sin Lay dunfandaler have is that they hold
the certification for A two's infant formula into China. So
A to need that, And I know there's disputes going
on at the moment, but A too probably need Sinlay
just as much as Sinley need need A two until
twenty twenty seven at least when the certification is up
(31:34):
for a new all again, did.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
They go down the wrong track because infant formula? I
remember John Key going on about this, sending the infant
formula into China, That's how we were going to get
rich added value. And yet we've seen almost a one
eighty degree turn on the Swan Fonterra's kind of gone
back to its knitting. I use the example of Open
Country Dairy. They stick to their knitting, they make powder
and cheese. Maybe maybe sin Lay just went down the
(32:00):
wrong track.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
Well, they only went down that track because they had
a major shareholder buying a lot of infant formula from them.
And don't forget A two didn't help when A two's
transport policy or line into China was largely the gray
market through Australia, and once COVID hit and all of
the Chinese tourists and students left Australia, but there were
(32:25):
billions of dollars of retail infant formula going from Australia
to China Buya the gray market. That's how they were
moving product, and that's not sustainable. So of course finlay
got very badly hurt. Then when A two drastically reduced
their infant formula, and of course nature bore the vacuum.
(32:48):
If the A too infant formula wasn't going into China,
other infant formulas did, and it's pretty hard to claw
that markets year back once it's gone.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
You've really done your homework on this, theiry man, Craig Kikman,
and you've been far from Solomon. I think you've been informative,
almost touching on entertaining.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Forbid. You might call me up more often, said Jeremy
would not Jeremy would not be happy with that.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Well, he hasn't been called for a while and there's
the reason for that.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Now.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I might have to get him on next week and
I'll make sure he's not too solemn. Look, thanks for that.
You filled in a lot of the knowledge gaps that
I had, and I'm sure you have for many of
our listeners as well. Thanks for your time, Good luck.
Speaker 9 (33:29):
Carving always a pleader. Thanks jam There we.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Got Craig Hickman, dairy man, social media influencer in the
dairy sector. Right, where's before I forget Michelle, because I
will forget because I'm very excited talking to cousin Barry
up next. Just want to get a sign off from
the farm Strong people. And I was at the Riversdale
Golf Club, as I said yesterday, playing playing in the
(33:52):
Farmer's Tournament full Field Great Day and farm Strong are
one of the major supporters, and they had a couple
of their people along. So farm Strong was all about
helping you to live well and enjoy farming. And Lindsey
Wright got up the local Farmstrong guy down there and
he said, you guys in this room mainly guys there
was some girls. In fact, a woman won the tournament.
There you go. But he said, you're doing what farm
(34:16):
Strong advice. Get off the farm, do a bit of networking,
live well, farm well, and keeping in touch with your
mates in the community can make all the difference when
you're under the pump. So here's the bit of advice
from Farmstrong. Head to farmstrong, dot co dot in zed
to find out what works for you and lock it
in up next to Barry Soper to wrap the country.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
Now we little Tom, I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Everything, wrapping the country on a Friday with Barry Soper,
a political correspondent. He's having a long family lunch and Barry,
I don't know if you're aware of this yet, because
you've been tied up all morning. Have you heard about
Biden's fauxpa introducing Zelensky as putin.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Good afternoon, Jamie, Yeah, well you've just told me, and
I find it incredible. And I wonder who he thought
Chris Luckson was when he spoke to him. Probably Rob Muldoon.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Well, Luxon was gushing about how honors game Biden was.
Do you think there's a wee bit of fanboy in
going on there?
Speaker 9 (35:19):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I think there's absolute fan boying going on, because you know,
we know that essentially Chris luckson as a student of
American politics, he loves it. And to do the rounds
in the Congress and Senate the other day, and then
to go to the White House dinner and then meeting
Biden and Apolitide, I mean, you know, he's the cat
(35:41):
that got the cream. Basically.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Now we'll move on from Biden and the NATO sub
and I want to talk if I can, just about
the latest poll. I think it's the Taxpayer's Carrier came
out this morning. National on thirty seven point six opened
up a big gap Labor just under twe twenty six percent.
The Greens are solid on twelve and a half, Act
nine point one. And when he's passed the threshold, So
(36:06):
all in all, when you chuck that in and I
haven't seen the graphics on it, it would put the
Coalition government in a pretty strong position.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Oh indeed, and really, Jamie, at the stage, polls are
not that important. It's still got two and a half
years to run to the election. And this government, like
none other than I've known, really has had not a baptism.
It's essentially a baptism of fire. It had because it
took over so such a dreadful state that the books
(36:35):
were in, so the public's feeling down. But so any
poll result came out like that that came out today,
there's certainly really good for the National Party. They'll be
quite happy about it, even though the movement is only
two and a half percent. At least, no doubt Chris
likes and winging his way back to New Zealand will
(36:58):
now be thinking, at least be going in the right direction. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
I wonder whether in this one it may have fact
it into the pole in a small way, just the
fact that the Reserve Bank announcement on Wednesday was starting
to see some light at the end of the tunnel,
and thankfully it may not be a train coming.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Well. You know, I've often thought back to the saying
of the Roger Douglass in the first labor government of
that era, the long E government. He always said short
term pain for long term game, and maybe the public
if only seeing that is the situation in New Zealand
at the moment, because it is very painful for so many,
(37:40):
but at the end of it, hopefully there will be
some significant game.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yeah, well, I just think it's so important that they
cut the ocr before Christmas, just to change the sentiment
for the nation. Barry Sopa, you enjoy the rest of
your long lunch with the family. See mate, There we go,
Barrys Soper wrapping the country. Remember, if you want to
live well and farm well, go to farmstrong dot co,
Dot and Z. Have a great weekend everybody. The Poems
(38:07):
have lost their best player, their fallback. It's going to
be a cracker game tomorrow. I think the All Blacks
are going to turn it on. Looking forward to Cortez
Ratama making his test debut Catcherback on Monday, it was
the last night We Break a pass.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
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Podcast with Jamie McKay Thanks to Brent starkest of the
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Wow did that copy gone?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I hate.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
It's not as a really reasonab as Yeah, screaming shall
bish me yah Gooday New Zealand. This is the Country
I Am Jamie McKay kicking it off with Shania Twain
(00:45):
going a bit country on a Friday, just because we can. Man,
I Feel Like a Woman. Theme song to our opening
guests today twenty twenty three f MG Young Farmer of
the Year Emma Paul. She's alive on the ground. That
stay too. Of the contest Claudland's Events Center and the trial.
(01:05):
We're going to chat to Willie Leffrink, former Dairy chair
of Federated Farmers, Mid Canterbury dairy farmer and more importantly
for the purposes of today's conversation, he's a Sinley supplier.
The big vote got the tick of approval. They didn't
really have any other option. Yesterday afternoon we'll discuss what
it means for the future of Sinlay. Former Sheer Market
(01:27):
darling Chris Brandelino from NIWA on the weather Craig Hickman,
Mid Canterbury theme on the show today social media influencer
Mid Canterbury Kalkok. He supplies Fonterra, not Sinlay, but he's
been doing TikTok videos for his large fan base about
the Sinlay vote. Barry Soper on politics, Well, new political
(01:50):
poll out has the Nats putting a good gap between
them and Labor thirty seven point six versus just under
twenty six percent. The Greens is sort of staate. Black's
doing okay and when he's still hanging in there, more
about that, and poor old Joe Biden. Christopher Luxen had
a pull of side is that what they call with him,
(02:10):
and he said he was very impressed by the sharpness
of Biden. Well, if you've heard his faupa earlier from
earlier this morning when he introduced President Zelenski as President Putin,
you would have to beg to differ on that one. Right,
Let's get straight into it. Hopefully she's hanging in there
for me. Man. She feels like a woman and she
was the first woman to break the grass ceiling. Emma Paul,
(02:34):
Good afternoon, you are the reigning champion. Tomorrow night you
pass over the cloak of knowledge. This year, you're an
organizer rather than a contestant. What's it like being on
the other side, goody, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
It's a beautiful day here and I can tell you what. Yet,
being on the other side is a very different experience altogether.
So so much goes into these contests and I never
really had an appreciation of it until I had to
help organize one. It's everyone's done a stellar job and
pulled it off, and it is looking so so good
here and there's lots of people showed up today, so
that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
And you've got a great venue in Hamilton. It's probably
let's face at Hamilton. I argue maybe that Palmerston North is,
but Hamilton probably can claim to be the farming capital,
certainly the dairy farming capital of the country. How do
you fit all this in? You constantly amaze me, Emma,
and I mean that with all due respect and admiration,
because you're a dairy farmer, you're a vet, you have
(03:29):
two young children, including a brand new one, and you
find time to run this event.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
It's been a bit of a handful. We've actually parked
up a horse load, made a breastfeeding station in one
of the sheds. So we've got it all under control here, Jamie.
But yes, it is a bit going on, and I
will be happy to hand that cloak over to another
deserving contestant tomorrow night. And yeah, let them see the
lights and take a bit of a backstage after that.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
You want to talk about the evolution of the com test.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Just about how it's changed, Jamie. So I think back
in the day we used to see contestants. I think
they cut the throat of a few sheep and butcher
them themselves. But obviously that doesn't fly so much these days,
and it didn't go well with the spectators. So this
year we've tried to really design a spectator centric event
so that there's something for everyone to watch, but it's
(04:23):
pleasing on the eyes. So the contestants have just finished
a butchery challenge, but the lamb packers was presented for
them to make it a bit more presentable, so it
was neat to see them go through that. And we've
also had the Young Butcher of the Year here. He
was doing a demonstration so we could see what the
pro looks like, which was neat for the crowd to see.
So it has changed over the years, that's for sure,
(04:44):
but it's looking good.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Talk me through what happened yesterday, what's happened thus far today,
and will happen this afternoon, because I'm assuming you've got Agrisports,
and then what is the format for tomorrow evening?
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yep, So yesterday they did the technical day, so they
would have done an excit in an hr challenge, and
then today they started off in the frost and they
started their farmlets. So they've got a miniature farm that
they've got complete with water troughs and fencing, and they've
got a live stock auction that they've got to go
to this afternoon to purchase stock for their miniature farm.
And yeah, they've had the butchery challenge, and the afternoon
(05:17):
will finish with Agrisports, which I can see a bunch
of new Holland boomers and the whole of the stallion
feeders and Honda quad bikes, so it looks like a
good lineup for them there as well. And then tomorrow
evening starting at five o'clock, will be in the Cordland's
Events Center with the night show there in the quiz
to top it all off and name that final winner.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And it's a huge events center. It's magnificent. I've been
there for the Balanced Farm Environment Awards. Is it sold out?
Speaker 5 (05:43):
I'm not sure about where the tickets are at at
the moment, Jamie, but last time I checked, we were
heading towards the seven hundred people mark heading to their
events very night, So pretty huge. And as I'm standing
here on the field today, there is just so many
people and being so central in Hamilton, it's attracting people
off the streets in helping to bridge that urban gets
that we talk about sometimes. So they're wandering in here
(06:05):
and having a lot and seeing all the good things
about farming.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Now, one thing we can guarantee, Emma Paul twenty twenty
three Young Farmer of the Year f MG Young Farmer
of the Year. They do a great job supporting this contest.
You will not be handling the cloak of knowledge over
to a female because they're all blokes this year, and
they're all first timers.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yep, No, they are all blokes that I know of,
so yeah, it will be what do.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
You mean, what do you mean? What do you mean
that you know of? A is one of them going
to transition or something?
Speaker 6 (06:33):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Well I'm pleased that. I was thinking if someone becomes
non binary, I think I'll give up on the Young
Farmer of the Year contest. But these are good, solid blokes.
I'll just move on because I'm just going to get
myself in trouble going down that rabbit hole. But have
you got you know all first timers? Has who's caught
your eye?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Ah? There, it's going to be a very tight field.
But yeah, some of these South them boys are definitely
putting on a good show. I've seen a couple of
them work things out that have been pretty tricky this
morning with ed Gerris as Ye definitely putting on a
tidy show, and Zack as well, and then there's young
Archie as well. Very hard to pick up the stage, Jamie.
I don't know who will take it out.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Well, just for the listener's sake, I'll quickly run through them.
You mentioned a couple of them, Gareth Mccirtchheer, there is
a rangy George Dodson, Tasman, Zach Thomas who you mentioned
from Otago, Southland, Dennis Main the local lad why kat
Obay have plenty, Zane Jones Taranaki, Manora two East Coast
is Archie Woodhouse who you mentioned, and Northern is Caleb Edie.
(07:39):
So there you go. Those are the finalists and we'll
know who the winner is at about what time tomorrow night? Emma?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Oh, I think we'll find out about nine o'clock. But yeah,
depends how well the evening goes as foss.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Is there a live stream of it for people, because
unfortunately it's not covered on Telly.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
And yes on. If you go on to Facebook and
type in FMG Young Crumbley you should be able to
follow or along. If they don't get the live stream up.
At least you'll be able to see a couple of
pictures posted when the winner is announced.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Well well I wait that with baited breath, So about
to watch the test tomorrow night. Just when it's finished,
you can flick over and see who the twenty twenty
four FMG Young Farmer of the Year is. Emma, Look,
thank you very much for your time. You're doing a
wonderful job. As your brother Tim there today as well.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
He is floating around. Yep, I've seen him having a
chat to people. So yep, everyone's here that needs to
be here, Jamie. It's good to see.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Good on you. I know you're a busy woman. Thanks
for your time.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
She is, Jamie, there, she is.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
She's wonderful. Emma Paul the first woman to win the
Young Farmer of the Year title last year, and her
older brother Tim won it the year before. I keep
repeating myself here. Her husband was runner up the year
before as well, Chris Paul. What a dynamic family they are,
the Dungeons slash Paul's right, Well, take a break. The
(08:57):
other big story from yes the was the Sinlay voter
was always only going to go one way because otherwise
they would have had to have gone into liquidation, I'd imagine.
But is it a stay of execution or have they
got a plan to get the former sheer market darling
Sinlay back to what it once proudly was and have
(09:21):
they got too cute with their product mix? Where did
it all go wrong for Sinlay. We're going to talk
to Willie Leffrink, former dairy chair of Federated Farmers about
that one. Chris Brandolino on the weather, We've had a
magnificent weeker weather around the country because they've had a
big high planked over top of us last week. When
we spoke to him, he said, we're going to get
a wetter second week of the school holidays. We'll see
(09:43):
if he's still sticking with that. Forecus Craig Hickman, social
media influencer TikToker. I don't even know what TikTok is.
I do know what it is, but I can't be
bothered with it. But he is an influencer and he's
been putting out TikTok videos this morning about Sinlay and Barry.
So poor old Biden. Things go from bad to worse
(10:03):
for him. He's at the NATO conference or summit. Obviously,
Chris Luson's there. He was impressed by Biden's sharpness and
then Biden makes a terrible faux pa this morning. And
the latest political poll it seems that people are falling
in behind the coalition government. We've got all that to
do before the end of the hour. Michelle will be
(10:23):
in here with rural news and we'll update sports news
for you as well as well.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Ma'am.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
She litle warmer wis n J. There's a party downtown.
You're fishing while we've tracked him down. Former Federated Farmer's
Dairy chair Willy Leffrink, mid Canterbury dairy farmer and supplier
(11:04):
to Sinlay. And then we've excused the road noise in
the background because Willy, you're off to provide meals on
wheels for the good folk of mid Canterbury. Good on you,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
It's a lines project and we do that every probably
two months.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yes, well, Sinlay, if you'll excuse the bad puns, probably
needed a bit of meals on wheels. It certainly needed
a bit of help. What did yesterday's vote mean for you?
Is this a stay of execution?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, I don't think so. I think there is a
plan and I'm really delighted that a Tool and Bright
theres have sat around the table now, so I think
they have a plan going forward. And it also means
that I get paid next week, by the end of
the week, because it's you know, it's a big money
coming in. Do we do winter milk? And I was
(11:52):
a bit nervous about not getting paid well when.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I mentioned a stay of execution. Yes, they've bought some
time because they've got the low from a Bright Dairy
one hundred and thirty million to reash to ensure you
can make your debt repayment due on July the fifteenth,
which was extended I think from about March. But I'm
hearing that could well be a run on the bank
as far as Sinley suppliers go. Is it true that
(12:18):
up to half of them have supplied a notice to
basically leave the company?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
So I don't know how many it is. It's a
lot more than fifty percent. But I think they have
a plan in place to stop this from happening. And
this only ventures only in two years up and they
definitely have to make up to us for what they
did to us last year. Of course, you know we
(12:45):
were That's why we're getting so much money now, because
up to last month, our payouts were a dollar behind
Fonterra in advance threat.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
I look at the share price, should I say of Sindley.
Back in twenty nineteen, the shares were worth ten dollars.
I think they finished yesterday after the announcement at thirty
two cents. I had a look a bit earlier this morning.
I think they've gone up to thirty five cents. But
this is a drop in the ocean. This is like,
what's my quick maths on this one? The share price
(13:16):
is literally only about three or four percent of what
it used to be.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Yes and no.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
It's a sad state of affairs. And I think that's
why a lot of shareholders also volded in favor, because
it wasn't much to be gained from volding against.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Where did Sinleay go wrong? From a ten dollars share
price and a bit of a share market darling back
in twenty nineteen to where it is now, they.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Met some like, from the outsider's point of view, silly decisions.
And I think they've got two big too quick on
it hold for you know, good fortunes in dual cause.
But they couldn't foresee that COVID would have such a
(14:06):
dramatic impact in the world.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Did they get too cute in terms of their product mix,
too many eggs in an infant formula basket?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I think that's definitely the case, because the birth rate
in China has dropped from twenty million to eight million.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
And if we look at Fonterra, they've kind of gone
back to their knitting. They've got rid of their consumer
brands or are going to, so they're going to stick
basically to the commodity. And I look at Open Country,
the second biggest dairy company in this country. They seem
to be rather successful on just sticking to their knitting,
providing the commodity, be it powder or cheese.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, I know, but we haven't had to go back
that long when Fonterra was in the doldrums, and in
the end the farmers had to pay the price for
that by the half in the value of their shares
as well.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I mean, that's still a good result compared to you
guys at Sinlay.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, and a lot of us don't have shares, and
up to now certainly hasn't hasn't defaulted on not paying
for the milk.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Hell, sinilely going to get out of us. You're gonna
have to do a capital raise. Our suppliers like yourself
going to have to buy some shears.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
It's not requested from us, but I think right there
he is has indicated that they're willing to buy shares.
So there is a plan in place, and we haven't
been asked to buy shares.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Now, would you personally fork out to buy Sinlay shares
at the moment?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Well, I bought some shares on the opportunity, yes, And
I'm you know, just a punter, you know, I have
other shares and other businesses as well.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Okay, welly I'll let you go because I know you've
got to do meals on wheels in mid Canterbury there.
Just tell me how the run into carving's going. You
must be getting close, are you.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, we've just finished the carving and right into it
again in a couple of weeks. So we had the
first set of twins born day before yesterday.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, those are your spring carvers. Of course you've got
your autumn carvers as well. You're a real sucker for
punishment milking all year round. I admire your enthusiasm. Hey,
thanks for some of your time today on the Country,
Willie Leffern. Can you keep up the good work. Thanks Willy,
it's twenty six after twelve you. Feedback is always appreciated
here on the Country. Our text line is five double
(16:30):
O nine. Now Michelle Watt's wandered in here. Now here's
the question for today. Did I do a Biden? Have
I just done a Biden?
Speaker 6 (16:39):
I don't think you did.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Jo Well, I was obviously listening because I was talking,
but I'm maybe losing my marbles. John says, funny, you
made the same mistake about putin that Biden made so
you need this is all archived. All this audio. You
can run out during the commercial break and find out
whither I did a Biden myself talking about Biden wrongly
(17:03):
introducing Vladimir Zelenski as Vladimir Putin at that the NATO summer.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Oh, I'll go look into that during their.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
No, you promise you will tell me if I've lost
my marbles.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Oh, I don't know if I'm brave enough for that one, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I sometimes wonder my South, but we're compared to Joe Biden.
I think I'm still doing okay, but not me up
for debate as well. Anyhow, send us your feedback. If
I did do a Biden, let me know and I'll
apologize profusely. Up next, we're going to have a look
at the weather with Friday weather guy Chris Brandolino. This
time a week ago, he said, we're going to get
(17:38):
a great week. We've had a great winter week, especially
where we are down on the deep South high dominating things.
But are we going to get wet next week? We'll
find out next on the country.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
I've had a lot of mouth past burst mind and
a couple beautiful girls.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Tell me you that true break down.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
I'll run out politicians, Abby found out of politics.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
One to counter things.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Agawn, Welcome back to the country. The song is Bear
Never Broke My Heart. Gota love country music. We're going
country on a Friday here on the country. Chris Brandolino,
Nila weather guy, native New Yorker. What did you make
of Biden's fopab Chris Brandolino, Oh, I did.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
Look, I just saw what I saw online. I didn't
see it live. But yeah, I guess if if your
president invited, it probably doesn't help your cause when people
are questioned in your ability to lead. I guess, to
put mildly.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Well, I won't ask you to forecast the November election.
I'll ask you to forecast next week because, as predicted
you said this time a week ago, we're going to
get a great week, a great winter week, and we've
had that high. I love when a weather like that.
Is it gonna change dramatically next week?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah? It is.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
And we mentioned this last week too, Jamie. If I
believe how second week of school holidays, using that as
kind of a reference point would be warmer, kind of
a pattern change and a better chance of rain. And
that's holding true. That pivot point will happen probably on Sunday,
So we got another cold morning tonight or tomorrow morning,
they should say, and tonight and so more frost tomorrow morning.
(19:28):
For basically, if you have frost this morning, you're gonna
have frost again tomorrow morning. That's probably the best way
to put it. There will be another dry afternoon tomorrow,
the exception Hawks Bay on shore flow means showers, maybe
some snow buff twelve hundred meters root Henas for example,
and then we'll get that northerly will probably northeasterly flow
Jamie on Sunday, that'll increase for the upper North Island,
(19:51):
and by sunset on Sunday rain probably breaking out north
of Auckland City across Northland, and that'll mean probably a
wet day on Monday for much much of the North
Island from Tedanaki to the Waikato to be awkloed in
Northland Now regions, but dry elsewhere. Generally speaking, some Monday
it looks to be a wet day in those areas,
but it's gonna be a mild or unsettled period next week.
(20:13):
Won't rain every day and all the time, but it
just you know, the threat of rain, and then we'll
have to watch, Jamie, the potential. You know, if we're talking, Actually,
you and I won't be talking next Friday. I'm going
to taking a few days off next week. But if
we were talking next Friday, Jamie, we'd probably be talking
about a potentially significant low bringing heavy rain and wind
for next week in the following weekend.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Well, don't tell me that's gonna land on hawks by
Tyraffady gives been sort of East Coast region because that's
the last thing I need.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
Yeah, look, I'm fully aware that I'm certainly aware of
the sensitivities, you know as Yeah, believe me, I am aware.
And unfortunately, you know it's in the conversation. You know
where where the worst weather goes. If you know, look
to week away. These things may change, and hopefully it
changes for the better. And there's some rain, it's nothing
(21:05):
of any significance, so that would be great. But unfortunately,
one of the outcomes on the table is that it
does rain hard and there's a good amount of wind
and it affects the North Island. So that is on
the table. We have a week eight days to see
how things kind of evolve with time, and we'll see
how that goes. But basically there could be even more
(21:27):
opportunities Jamie, after that. So as mentioned last week, and
I'll just reiterate it again after Saturday, from Sunday and beyond,
that's going to kind of mark a period where it's
a different kind of flavor. It's a different theme. It's milder,
it's not as cold, it's not as settled, and chances
for rain will be increased, and there could be some
(21:47):
opportunities for some heavy rain events between say Monday and
the end of the month. So second half of the
month looks to be different than the first halfening.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Well, I hope you got your forecast horribly wrong, but
full warned is full armed. Chris, Lena, you enjoy a
few days off next week. We'll catch you back in
a fortnight.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
I look forward to it.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
There we got Chris Brandoleno and was we're the guy. Oh,
we're going to take a break. I sent Michelle out
to go through our logs to check if I did
do with Biden. I don't know if you're right, John,
I'm not sure I made the same mistake. Maybe I did.
We'll check that out. Talking about Biden. We're going to
talk about Barry Soper about Biden in a new political
poll out which has the coalition government performing better comparatively
(22:32):
to the center left Labour's languishing it just under twenty
six percent, which is not good at all. The NATS
on thirty seven point six. And was Christopher Luxen being
a bit of a fanboy over in America. This is
a guy who spent a good part of his life,
by the way, and this is by no means of criticism.
The guy is fanatical. This is Luxon about the history
(22:55):
of American presidents. It's his thing. He knows more about
it than anyone else I know, studies it closely, so
no doubt he would have been excited when he got
to rub shoulders with the President. Anyhow, we'll talk to
Barry Sober about that one up next, it is Rural
News with Michelle and Sports News and England have apparently
lost their best player ahead of the second Test at
(23:16):
Eden Park tomorrow night.
Speaker 7 (23:19):
Guzzler Dangers Cardons by myself joy helping ourselfvery week.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Welcome back to the Country as we go Country on
a Friday. This is Morgan Wollen, very very catchy. Indeed, right,
here's Michelle with the latest in rural news. Just before
we do that, did I do a Biden? I sent
you out to check.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
I don't think you did. I combed it with a
fine tooth listening.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Come.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
But you know, maybe my ears are just as bad
as Biden's. Maybe we're both the same. Ay, we're like
those two old muppets.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
On the You know, wow, I think you're doing yourself
a bit of a deservice there. Anyhow, we we'll get
to the bottom of whether I did a Biden, because
if I did, I need to take a serious look
at myself. What's the name that Hollywood star George helped
me out here, Tony Ploney, thank you very much, the
nes espresso man. George has said that Joe's got a
(24:16):
step aside and he's one of the big funders of
the party. So interesting times. I tell it, if you've
got nothing better to do of a night, and luckily
I was in the Riversdale Golf Club last night and
I had plenty to do. But if you've got nothing
better to do, go and watch Fox TV. That's a
comedy channel. At the moment, I can tell you that
now here's the latest and rural news.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
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The Walls of New Zealand Sharing Sports. New Zealand Sharing
Team has crossed the English channel for a rare Test
match against France. David Buick from Panoa and Jack Fagan
of Tekwiti will be sharing against French brothers Gillies and
Pierre Rancher in the French National Championships at Martel, which
is a medieval town in the southwest of France. The
tour ends with a three Test series against Wales at
(25:09):
the CO And my welch is not very good Jamie Arkita.
He shares on July the twentieth, and Royal Wales show
on July the twenty fourth, and the Corwyn Shares on
July the twenty seventh. And that's ral news. More at
the Country dot code dot NZ.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Sport with AFCO visit them online at AFCO dot co
dot enz.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yeah in sports news. A blow for England's hopes of
drawing the Test series against the All Blacks tomorrow at
Eden Park. Fullback George Fairbank, who was arguably England's best
player in the one point loss in Dunedin, has been
ruled out with a back injury. Freddie Stewart will replace Furbank.
(25:51):
He wasn't originally in the English twenty three and New
zeal talking about Eden Park. New Zealand Cricket has gone
upstairs to the DRS regarding Auckland's Eden Park. A reluctance
to play anything other than limited overs fixtures at the
ground has emerged in recent years due to its relatively
small size. The last test was held in twenty eighteen,
(26:12):
but the governing body is backing the flexible seating option
to accommodate a regulation sized oval, which is part of
the ground's proposed redevelopment. I don't know about that, Michelle.
I'm not a cricket purist or tragic, far from it,
but I think there's something wonderful about people sitting on
grassy banks, you know, like the Basin Reserve or Hagley Oval.
(26:35):
I don't know about being in a concrete jungle for
five days. What do you reckon?
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Yeah, I don't think my comment on the park in Auckland,
although I haven't watched cricket there have been lucky enough
to get there, but the shape of it, and I've
heard from people that have been there that are purists.
It's not designed for watching cricket, and I think that's
probably been the big thing. But yeah, I like sitting
on a grass bank to a university oval. Best place
to be.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah it is. That's a beautiful cricket ground. And there's
the one in New Plymouth, Gura part. Yeah. So there's
so many lovely cricket grounds around the country. Right, we're
going to take a break on the other side of it.
Social media influencer has been flat out after milking the
cows this morning. He probably hasn't even milked them yet.
I don't think he milks all year round. Carvin can't
be a mile away. Craig Hickman, dairy influencer making TikTok videos.
(27:19):
And Barry Sober on the latest political poll. And we'll
also have a yarn about poor old Joe. We needed Tom.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
I can't remember everything we said.
Speaker 9 (27:32):
We said it it sold me that.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
You will welcome back to the country, going country. Morgan Wallen,
isn't he good quarter her away from one?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Well?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
I phoned this bloke up this morning because I wasn't
sure whether I was going to be able to track
down Willie Leffrin because he was doing meals on wheels.
I thought I'd better get someone from mid Canterbury. And
who better to get than a social media influencer. I
would love to be one of those, Craig Hickman aka
dairy Man. That's an introduction, by the way.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Hello, you know, you.
Speaker 9 (28:04):
Know, being a social media influence is great and you
get invited to dinners and whatnot by radio celebrities, so
it's not a bad life. I can tell you that.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Now, another man who was at that dinner. This is
the South Island Airy event. The dinner and I invited
you and Duncan hum Along, two social media influences. Obviously
Duncan's behind NZ Farming Facebook page, but an influencer in
his own mind. Anyhow, Jeremy Rooks told you off for
being too solemn on the radio, Craig on the.
Speaker 9 (28:33):
Radio, So yes, if you, if you will try and
inject a bit more energy and cheerfulness. Thank you Jeremy
for the media one oh one pointer. I owe you.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
We'll get everything, he says, and divide it by two,
then divide it by two again. So this morning when
I teed you up for this interview, you were making
TikTok videos about Sinlay.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
Yeah, I'm surprised at how many people get their news
from social media rather than actually news stories. Plenty of
people had no idea that the boat was happening yesterday
and that the future of Sinlay hung in the balance.
So I let them know. And of course that the
boat went through, Bright Dairies all come up with the
money and sin Lay can pay their one hundred and
(29:16):
thirty million dollars to their bankers on Monday, which I
think is a good result. I'm very pleased with that result,
even though I'm not a Sinley supply.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Well, you're an outsider looking in. Where did Sinlay go wrong?
Speaker 9 (29:28):
It was Pocono obviously. What that cost them two hundred
and eighty million to build another ninety million dollars to
reabfit it to process non dairy product food products for abbots,
and it's losing thirty five million bucks a year. I mean,
it's just a huge rain on what they're profitable businesses,
(29:49):
which is dumb sandal And don't forget that Pocono business
has only got something like sixty dairy farmers supplying it
compared with Dumb Sandal with two hundred and fifty, a
lot of money invested for an underutilized death set. There's
losing money now.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
I know you didn't get a chance to hear. Willy
left frankhin earlier in the air and I threw this
one at him and I said, I've heard that half
of the suppliers have got their notice of ceasing supply
or whatever you call it in, so they've got their
backsides covered so they can get out in a couple
of years if it doesn't work out. And he said
it's well more than half. Will there be a run
(30:25):
on the bank. What are you hearing?
Speaker 9 (30:27):
That's their big danger. The big danger is not repaying
loans or raising well. Raising capital will be an issue,
but their big danger is losing supplies. I think there's
forty or fifty in Canterbury have come to Fonterra for
this season. There's the same again who wanted to come
this season and they have to wait till next season.
(30:47):
And then well over half had put their notice in
and I understand Willy is one of those. I saw
a newspaper report with Willy saying he had put his
notice in. So that is the danger. You've got one
under utilized, definitely not making money in the North Island.
And it would be a terrible shame if that turned
into the same story in Dunfandal, but it looks like
it might. But currently there, as in the whole of
(31:11):
course that sin Lay dunfandaler have is that they hold
the certification for A two's infant formula into China. So
A to need that, And I know there's disputes going
on at the moment, but A too probably need Sinlay
just as much as Sinley need need A two until
twenty twenty seven at least when the certification is up
(31:34):
for a new all again, did.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
They go down the wrong track because infant formula? I
remember John Key going on about this, sending the infant
formula into China, That's how we were going to get
rich added value. And yet we've seen almost a one
eighty degree turn on the Swan Fonterra's kind of gone
back to its knitting. I use the example of Open
Country Dairy. They stick to their knitting, they make powder
and cheese. Maybe maybe sin Lay just went down the
(32:00):
wrong track.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
Well, they only went down that track because they had
a major shareholder buying a lot of infant formula from them.
And don't forget A two didn't help when A two's
transport policy or line into China was largely the gray
market through Australia, and once COVID hit and all of
the Chinese tourists and students left Australia, but there were
(32:25):
billions of dollars of retail infant formula going from Australia
to China Buya the gray market. That's how they were
moving product, and that's not sustainable. So of course finlay
got very badly hurt. Then when A two drastically reduced
their infant formula, and of course nature bore the vacuum.
(32:48):
If the A too infant formula wasn't going into China,
other infant formulas did, and it's pretty hard to claw
that markets year back once it's gone.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
You've really done your homework on this, theiry man, Craig Kikman,
and you've been far from Solomon. I think you've been informative,
almost touching on entertaining.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Forbid. You might call me up more often, said Jeremy
would not Jeremy would not be happy with that.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Well, he hasn't been called for a while and there's
the reason for that.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Now.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I might have to get him on next week and
I'll make sure he's not too solemn. Look, thanks for that.
You filled in a lot of the knowledge gaps that
I had, and I'm sure you have for many of
our listeners as well. Thanks for your time, Good luck.
Speaker 9 (33:29):
Carving always a pleader. Thanks jam There we.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Got Craig Hickman, dairy man, social media influencer in the
dairy sector. Right, where's before I forget Michelle, because I
will forget because I'm very excited talking to cousin Barry
up next. Just want to get a sign off from
the farm Strong people. And I was at the Riversdale
Golf Club, as I said yesterday, playing playing in the
(33:52):
Farmer's Tournament full Field Great Day and farm Strong are
one of the major supporters, and they had a couple
of their people along. So farm Strong was all about
helping you to live well and enjoy farming. And Lindsey
Wright got up the local Farmstrong guy down there and
he said, you guys in this room mainly guys there
was some girls. In fact, a woman won the tournament.
There you go. But he said, you're doing what farm
(34:16):
Strong advice. Get off the farm, do a bit of networking,
live well, farm well, and keeping in touch with your
mates in the community can make all the difference when
you're under the pump. So here's the bit of advice
from Farmstrong. Head to farmstrong, dot co dot in zed
to find out what works for you and lock it
in up next to Barry Soper to wrap the country.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
Now we little Tom, I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Everything, wrapping the country on a Friday with Barry Soper,
a political correspondent. He's having a long family lunch and Barry,
I don't know if you're aware of this yet, because
you've been tied up all morning. Have you heard about
Biden's fauxpa introducing Zelensky as putin.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Good afternoon, Jamie, Yeah, well you've just told me, and
I find it incredible. And I wonder who he thought
Chris Luckson was when he spoke to him. Probably Rob Muldoon.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Well, Luxon was gushing about how honors game Biden was.
Do you think there's a wee bit of fanboy in
going on there?
Speaker 9 (35:19):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I think there's absolute fan boying going on, because you know,
we know that essentially Chris luckson as a student of
American politics, he loves it. And to do the rounds
in the Congress and Senate the other day, and then
to go to the White House dinner and then meeting
Biden and Apolitide, I mean, you know, he's the cat
(35:41):
that got the cream. Basically.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Now we'll move on from Biden and the NATO sub
and I want to talk if I can, just about
the latest poll. I think it's the Taxpayer's Carrier came
out this morning. National on thirty seven point six opened
up a big gap Labor just under twe twenty six percent.
The Greens are solid on twelve and a half, Act
nine point one. And when he's passed the threshold, So
(36:06):
all in all, when you chuck that in and I
haven't seen the graphics on it, it would put the
Coalition government in a pretty strong position.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Oh indeed, and really, Jamie, at the stage, polls are
not that important. It's still got two and a half
years to run to the election. And this government, like
none other than I've known, really has had not a baptism.
It's essentially a baptism of fire. It had because it
took over so such a dreadful state that the books
(36:35):
were in, so the public's feeling down. But so any
poll result came out like that that came out today,
there's certainly really good for the National Party. They'll be
quite happy about it, even though the movement is only
two and a half percent. At least, no doubt Chris
likes and winging his way back to New Zealand will
(36:58):
now be thinking, at least be going in the right direction. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
I wonder whether in this one it may have fact
it into the pole in a small way, just the
fact that the Reserve Bank announcement on Wednesday was starting
to see some light at the end of the tunnel,
and thankfully it may not be a train coming.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Well. You know, I've often thought back to the saying
of the Roger Douglass in the first labor government of
that era, the long E government. He always said short
term pain for long term game, and maybe the public
if only seeing that is the situation in New Zealand
at the moment, because it is very painful for so many,
(37:40):
but at the end of it, hopefully there will be
some significant game.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yeah, well, I just think it's so important that they
cut the ocr before Christmas, just to change the sentiment
for the nation. Barry Sopa, you enjoy the rest of
your long lunch with the family. See mate, There we go,
Barrys Soper wrapping the country. Remember, if you want to
live well and farm well, go to farmstrong dot co,
Dot and Z. Have a great weekend everybody. The Poems
(38:07):
have lost their best player, their fallback. It's going to
be a cracker game tomorrow. I think the All Blacks
are going to turn it on. Looking forward to Cortez
Ratama making his test debut Catcherback on Monday, it was
the last night We Break a pass.
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