July 3, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Taine Randell, Te Radar, Chris Brandolino, Lawrence Field, and Chris Russell.
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have been on air about the same time as their
first guest was captaining the All Blacks. I might ask
him in a tech tyne we'll talk a weey bit
of foddy, but more importantly he's got a big history
in forestry and certainly carbon credits carbon farming so interesting.
Will be interested to get the thoughts of Tane Randall.
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To kick off the Country today, Radar Andrew Lumsdon is
down on Imber cargo for day two of the FMG
Young Farmer Grand Final. It is practical day today and
we will see how they're getting on and what the
weather and track conditions are like in Imbicargol. In fact,
I think the practical days up the road in Winton,
which has a bit of a micro climate, maybe it's
(01:34):
better there. Chris Brandolino from Newa on the weather. Gee,
there's a lot of weather to talk about. Isn't a
Lawrence Field In a past life he was a New
Zealand sheer milker of the Year. These days he's a
wire wrapper, farm consultant, business consultant. He's running the Rabobank
Bank farm succession workshops. Chris Russell's there Osie correspondent as well,
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and we'll tell you who won those thousand dollars vouchers
in Ashburton. Yes that I had a great day with
the team from Rural Co. It's all coming up on
the country. Michelle will be in with Rural News as well,
and we'll update sport for you. Paul Allison's wandering around,
Jason Pines and here Elliot Smith. They're all inunder need
and for the footy, we'll catch up with someone to
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talk a bit of sport at the bottom of the hour.
But up next Tane Randall once leapt to go before
Raisor Robertson's first test of twenty twenty five. Here's a
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bloke who would have played a bit of footy with
Raisa Robertson, former All Black captain Tayane Randall. And I'm
going to talk to you, Tane about farming, footy and
forestry because you've got a bit of a serious background
in forestry. Let's before we get onto the footy, talk
to me about forestry and carbon farming. Where do you
sit because you were into an early doors.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, so I actually worked overseas for a while. So
when the emissions market started in Europe as when I
first started for a trading company in London, I was trading.
We ended up training oil. But we're all say, the
missions market grew massively and so by the end when
I left, if you're buying oil, you're also buying essentially
European carbon credits. So you know, weab enough to be dangerous.
(03:25):
And we came back to New Zealand in two thousand
and nine and that was when the sort of carbon
market was sort of just really sort of starting in
New zeal ten and up it got involved quite heavily
up until sort of the twenty twelve thirteen when the
first cutoff period for pre nineteen ninety forestry all those
registrations were to be done, so heavily involved up more
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in the north. I spent a wee bit of time
down in the West Rowellen of Southland. But essentially, yeah,
more more and more about advisory around how how the
scheme works. I knew how it sort of worked globally,
but then we a bit of education helping people understand
how it sort of worked New Zealand's perspective and how
more important, how to apply it to their landholding.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Now I know you've got farming interest in hawks By.
I'm assuming it's in hawks Bay sheep and beef. How
does the carbon farming or the forestry versus sheep and
beef work in your mind? Have we got it right?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Controversial? Thanks Thick. I think it's getting better, you know.
And so essentially the market really kicked off in twenty
twelve in New Zealand. So it's only a twelve centen
you know for a lot of arts that's smoking mirrors,
that's part from whatever else. But for commodity trading and
that sort of stuff I overseen. It's existed for a
long time, very sophisticated for New Zealand. That was one
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of our first really internationally traded commodities which we could
do with pretty transparent price, with futures markets and stuff.
I've been a big fan of it because more than anything,
you know, no farmers are up in arms about it
and hold on. But the only people who can benefit
it are landholes farmers. Nowhere else in New Zealand can
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actually grow carbon credits.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
But there's plenty of places we've been sorry, Tane, there's
plenty of places on your farm surely where you can
plant trees and get the carbon credits. I'm talking about
the blanket planting of farms. That's what I don't like,
and I know examples of where arable land, good arable land,
has been planted into trees. It's just not right.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I completely agree. And we know we're in Hawk's Bay.
The East coast in New Zealand grows pretty good pine.
We've had we've seen some big, big, sometime historic blocks
going into pines and it's it's what the companies who
are doing that. There are one rotation, one generation the
short term, you know, but what they do put in
pines and they'll cut and run. Really they'll take the
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first scene they call averaging first eight sixteen to eighteen
years carbon and then they don't care out the next
hundred plus years. And that's that that really got away
on us. And I really against that from another perspective,
from just a farmers most and who I'm in Hawk's Bay, right,
so some really good land, but since most farms I'm
guessing around twenty twenty five percent of land, most farmers
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don't want to go on there, makes perfect reason to
be putting into some sort of foreigner natives, pine, African,
red whatever else. And it does you know, for that
the poorer quality parts of the land, you do earn
more from a carbon perspective than you would ever do
from a farming perspective. But I've always thought, you know,
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any farmer should have some sort of forestry, commercial or
long term as part of the portfolio, especially in Hawk's Bay,
where you don't just get big flat blocks of vand
you've got some you know, you got some nice flat stuff,
but a rolling quite a bit of a bit of
rough stuff. It's the rough stuff which and here I
from a strategic perspective, is the best stuff we should
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have in forest But where these companies have gone out
and bought just fantastic nice rolling land or flat and
blanket planted, it's just really poor. And I'd be feeling
the government going some way in terms of stopping that.
We land class six plus now to do that, and
you can't do whole blanket plantings, which I think is
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long over due. But yeah, at the same time, you know,
the forestry all has historically been a big part of
New Zealand's economy, and I don't know who who to believe,
but the forestry is still probably only about the same
sort of planting hectares it was in twenty seventeen. So
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when you look at the stats, maybe sometimes you get
a bit more emotional than what virtual data data seems
to think.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
All right, let's move on from forestry just to Tanne
Randall with his former All Black Captain farming farming, and
then Foddy So are you getting your hands dirty on
the sheep and beef farm taine? You're getting on the
hand piece.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Not even close. The closer I get, the more sort
of things go wrong. Now we've got some family interests,
so we've bought some forest middle in the north farm.
We've got to be some sheep, interesting farming, you know.
In Hawk's Bay. Everyone seems to be having a good
time at the moment, which is quite good because everyone
was crying a.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Bit last year.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And as I say, the more I get involved, the
more things go wrong. But take your teen interest, keen interest,
and yeah, that's that's we've pretty heavy spitting in Hawk's Bay.
We seem to be pretty happy with how the weather is,
how the pricing is. You know, Apple's going pretty well
as well. So I don't know what it's like for
you guys down south, but where I came at the.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Moment, yeah, I know down here, and you're a bit
like me. I'm a George Street farmer. I know you
know they needing well. So yeah, the closer I get,
the more trouble for the farm. Anyhow, let me finish
on the footy. France. You can never ever underestimate France,
and you probably still have nightmares about France. Tayne Randall
after nineteen ninety nine, But how do you see this
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game going?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Well, I'm I'm really excited. Okay, the French are coming over.
Pretty disrespectful, you know, it's the top of the world
table clash, top to of the top three teams in
the world, heavyweights, best of three, you know, pretty disrespectful
what they've done teams of seeing their B team over.
But I know it won't actually be that bad. But
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from an interesting perspective us oh, I, we'll see how
we go, you know. But it was really having seen
the team that raised it announced Yester. I haven't been
dis excited about the potential or you know, the potential
all back team for a long while, the loose forward tree.
I think finally we've got a good belly savvy on
the Openside'm really happy of that two po by massive
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putting them at six, putting having big locks on you know,
small locks, transferring things you can do the same side,
same deal at blind side. Hasn't always worked and of
course Leo Willie, but what I like about them, for
the first time for a long while, we've actually got
a balanced loose forward trio. I was looking at it.
You know, when you pick the team, you've got to
pick the best team, the best combination and having a
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big strong blind side having a ball playing high work
rate number eight and you know Savia on the open
side first time since really the Cano Reed mccare loose
fortune that I feel like we've got to balance loose
Ford trier issue have had over the last number of
years is that you know, we had Sam Caine and
Ardie Savia, two fantastic players both if you look at them,
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both started open so they're both open sides. But the coaches,
rather than you know, making a hard decision and choosing
the best for loose Ford combination, have just picked the
best players and put them in the team. And that's
not necessarily, I believe, the best thing to do. So
I'm really excited to see how this loose Fort ture
where goes. It might be a failure, but at least
I think from a combination perspective, they've got the right intent.
(11:06):
But the other woe, which is you know Ricca Yanni
on the way, I could not agree more. Yeah, he's
a strike winger. He's a strike player. He's not all
center's right. If you talk about roles in the API play,
you know, if you're a rock you got to be
talk catch line. If you're a wing, you got to
be fast and he's there. If you're a center, you've
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got to be able to read defense and you've got
to be able to pass the ball to your wingers.
Those are the two key roles I see as a
as a center. You know, talk about the best midfielders
we've had, you know, Conrad Smith, Joe Stan, Frank Barnes, what, Yeah,
they were all fantastic athletes, but their stability was the
fact that when it came to defense, they read defenses.
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It's quite complicated, the myths that they read defenses really well,
that's not Riky one. He's the great est of it.
A very good tackler, but from a system defense, he's
not great. And as we all know, has while he's
a fantastic runner, his distribution is not greatness. New Zealand
has really key bonds over the rest of the world
with his starkly had strike wingers. We want our wingers
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to get the ball, not the center's running with her.
And so those two things makes me really excited about
this weekend.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Hey, Tane Randall, like a chat to you all day,
haven't got all day. Great to talk forestry, farming and
footy with you.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Cool mate. Cheers have a good day.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
That is nineteen after twelve. Thank you, Tane Randolph. Interesting
comments and I kicked off the show. We're playing songs
with the French theme Sailor V from girl band What
happened to all those girl bands? Bewitched? And I thought
I thought it was roughly when Tanne was playing for
the All Blacks. In fact it was. It was nineteen
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ninety eight. And Taine's off the end of the line now,
so I guess we can talk freely about it. Poor not.
I'm sure Tane would as well if he was still
on the end of the line. But nineteen ninety eight
is famous for what Paul Allison, the best rugby statian
statistician I know, rugby wise. What's it famous for? Is
this when we got beaten?
Speaker 7 (13:08):
We got beaten in nineteen ninety eight by South Africa.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Is that the five nil that you want to bring back?
Speaker 7 (13:13):
Is it, Jamie?
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Five nil losses? We lost five tests in a row.
Never done it before in All Black history.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
Oh that one of them in the Athletic Park in
those days.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Yeah, And Tane Randall was see the captain of nine eight.
He definitely was a ninety nine when we lost to
the French great rugby play.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Yeah, it's great to hear him excited about this this
match tomorrow. You know, we call him a head, but
because he was so young when he was playing for
the All Blacks and got named as All Black captain.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
And he's excited.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
He's made some good points about the loose boards and
Ricoe Juanian I reckon.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
I haven't met anyone yet, Paul, and this is we'll
get back to farming. I haven't met anyone yet who's
not pleased that Rica Yuanni has gone out to the
wing where he belongs.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Well, there's no place for him in midfield. You look
at that long gem they've got. They've got Jordi Barrett,
Billy Prock, that Quintupia on the bench who's just played
the house down this Super Rugby season. And then the
man we know in the Deep South they call him
Gym the difference, Timothy tavitavn A way, those guys have
got to get a run somewhere in the series and
they've got to be in the midfield. So there's no
room for Rico.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
In that twelve or thirteen jersey. He's got to go out. Yeah,
and I don't think Caleb Clark or sever reesa world
class am I being unkind.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
I think Severu Reese is a pretty useful player. And
Caleb Clark hasn't shown his best this year.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
And as best as good to be fair, it's good.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
He's good, but he's good, but he hasn't been at.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
As mess not as fast as Rico u ARENI though yeah,
no will Rico.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
I still think he does offer something on the wing
and I think that's the right place for him. And
I think Ardie Savia at seven is the.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Right place for him. Absolutely. We're a grewing can't have that. Okay.
Up next we are going to talk some farming. We're
going to head down to him for carg all down
the road from us at Stay two of the FMG
Young Farmer Grand Final, we'll catch up with Radar Andrew Lumsdon.
(15:14):
Welcome back to the country. Twenty five after twelve Vu
Levu from Abba were the tricklers who are in Dunedin
for the footy tomorrow. We're going to I was going
to say in the cargo that's where the Young Farmer
Grand Final will be tomorrow, but today they're in Winton,
Central Southland. Micro Climate great farm and country. There we
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find Andrew Lumston, you may know him better as Teradar,
and you haven't got a bad day for the practical
radar micro climate.
Speaker 8 (15:44):
Indeed, look, it is a cracker of a day here.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It was a little chilling to start off with, but now.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
You've got that soft, lovely winter light. It's firm underfoot,
snow on the takatimus and it is look, I don't
think it's not.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
Nearly a breath of wind.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
You couldn't have got a bit of self one day
for what is shaping up to be in the excellent
FMG Young From of the Year Grand Final.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Now it wasn't so flash yesterday, but it didn't really
matter because they were mainly indoors for the technical day.
Although you did have a parade to kick it off, did.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
You No, No?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Did We had that indoors as well for everything was
that the excellent ascot they're an in Vicago, So we
had everyone indoors. Got all the contestants or the aggreg kids.
They had a competition for best dressed and we welcomed
all of them. But yes, all the technical stuff was
indoors for the QMG Young Farmer competitors. And you know,
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that's a great challenge as well. It's a shame people
don't really get to see it because boy oh boy,
they are pushed. You know, an excellent HR challenge that
involves them turning up MPI had arrived. There was some
stock the sheep and some lambs and some mud that
they had to deal with because of it as she
was staffing and the staff with them employee was a
belligerent and unhelpful, so they had to work their way
through that and then deal with.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
The farm owner.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
They've had sick weeks or so to put together an
innovation idea. They had to put a big business case
for all of that community footprints. You know, what are
these folks like when they're back in their actual communities.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
That's a part of what it means.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
To be a farmer in twenty twenty five as well,
plus a couple of other things. And now today, look,
I've just heard the sound of one of these big
new Holland tractors rawing up because they've got a baylor
on behind, they've put some butchery, they've got sheets, they've
just had thirty five minutes to knock a bridge together,
and then they've got the head to head and the
farmers we are pushing them to the brink today.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Yeah, and I know you're short on time because you've
got to m see this practical day. But we've got
justin Ryegrock from Northern Jack Burke from Taranaki, Manaa two,
Hugh Jackson, Why Bob, why Kattow Bay, have plenty, James
Robbie East Coast, George Leatham, Tasman, Gareth mckirche Arangi and
the Home the Home favorite is cam Smith for Otago Southland.
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Now two of them I think are repeat offenders or
they've been there before and they do haven't advantage. Hugh
Jackson and then Gareth mc kertsheer look you as well.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
He a former grand finalist for Otago seuthhone before he
went back up to the family farm in the Arkow.
He helped organize Waycattos last year as well, So no
no slouch when it comes to knowing the competition. Gareth
mkirchere very driven as well. But you know it's how
they hold their head on the day because everyone's got
the same sort of situation and it's it's how they
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react to it. But yes, I think if you if
you've been in the competition before, you know just how
much goes into it before you even turn up.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
But you know it's all. Every time I speak to
people who are.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Coming and having another look at cracking in, you say
what what would you do next time?
Speaker 8 (18:38):
Differently?
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Time management, yeah, time yeah, handling yourself under pressure.
Speaker 8 (18:44):
Yes, you know as I say that, that's part of
it as well.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Look, we saw that a couple of years back when
Emma Pool took it out and she was frustrated by
the fact that she could not get that pin in
the in the tractor and onto the onto the implement
with the in the in the ag.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
Sports event THEA.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
She persevered, and she persevered, and she persevered, and she
ended up getting it and taking it out.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
So you know that's what we're testing.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
All right. Radar, have a good call tomorrow night in
the cargo and we will speak to the twenty twenty
five FMG Young Farmer of the Year, whoever it might
be on Monday show. Go well and enjoy your day
in Winton.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
Brilliant.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It's anyone's game.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
CATCHU laid up, Andrew Lumsdon. Radar Teda does a great
job as the voice of the FMG Young Farmer Grand Final.
Weather's up next. Gee, there's been a lot of that
around It's well. I was going to say, maybe the
Tasman region dodged a second bullet. They didn't really, but
it could have been worse. But the first one is very,
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very troublesome. So we're going to have a look at
the weather around the country. Up next with Chris Brandolino
from newa. It is twenty nine away from one. Youre
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with the country brought to you by brand Thank you
to the text who said turn Bewitched down. I'm not
sure whether that's because it was too loud or whether
this person just didn't like Bewitched and girl bands from
the nineties. What's wrong with girl bands from the nineties.
We had our own one called true bliss. The weather
recently has been anything but true bliss. We've had so
much of it. To tell us a wee bit more
(20:25):
about it, Chris Brandolino, I was gonna say from Neewa, Chris,
but you guys got a new name.
Speaker 9 (20:32):
Yeah, Earth Science is New Zealand. I know it's a
bit lengthier than the word Neewa, but yeah, we merged
with GNS as of the first of July, so just
a few days ago, and eventually met Service comes into
the fold. So kind of creating this all hazard that
this all earth science approach, and honestly it's going to
be a great thing, saying organizations, but a better things
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as we all come together and work together in a
more collaborative way. Yeah, so that's our name, earth Science
is New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Well you should have just named yourself after one of
my favorite bands, earth Wind and Fire. That would have
done the trick as well. Well some now you tell us, Yeah, okay, Hey,
So some of these rainfall numbers, particularly the likes of
in the Marlborough, Tasman Nelson region and obviously Taranaki more recently,
how bad is it?
Speaker 9 (21:19):
Well, Tananaki had quite a drop of rain some locations
well over two hundred millimeters of rain over the gosh
within a day, in some places seventy eighty millimeters of
rain within a couple of hours. So that caused the
flooding New Plymouth near the mountain itself over toward.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Tasman.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
I'm looking at some of the gauges from Tasman District
Council and some of the higher elevations anywhere from seventy
five to one hundred millimeters of rain over the past
day and a half and it's fallen on wet ground.
So this is the reason for the concern. Now, we
still have to be mindful. There will be showers and
maybe some downboards and thunderstorms across the today, including Tedanaki,
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including the top of the South Island, so we have
to keep our eyes on that once today bypasses. Still
kind of an unsettled day. Tomorrow it looks like for
a good chunk of the North Island with showers and
maybe if you thunderstorms, but we'll catch a break, Jamie.
So Sunday, Monday and probably Tuesday largely dry across the country,
a little cooler, particularly eastern parts of the country will
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find cooler temperatures.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Unfortunately, as you can.
Speaker 9 (22:27):
Tell about the dramatic pause, we're gonna be dealing with
another weather system coming from the west and northwest. This
will be tapping down that tropical moisture and it looks
like the second half of next week, so Thursday Friday
kind of timeframe. We're looking at another low with connections
to the north and therefore the risk of heavy rain
and Jamie. We issued our long range outlook or seasonal
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Climate Outlook just a couple days ago, and this is
a concern we highlighted in that outlook is for the
next three months. In July especially, there is going to
be this increased risk for rain fall events with tropical
and subtropical connections. Basically, low pressure is favored near in
northwest of the country. High pressure favored well to our southeast,
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and that will sort of facilitate this north kind of
quarterly flow, so it could be northeast northwest, but that
will set us up for a wet July for much
of the country and for the next three months through
the end of September. It's the northern parts of both
islands areas that have been wet that have the highest
risk for having a wetter than usual three month period.
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Got to watch the west of the South Island. Dryness
could actually emerge there as you work away through the
weeks and months ahead because of a lack of westerlies.
So that is an area we'll have to watch from
I guess Interior or Southland all the way up to
hast hoky Tika and the west of the South Island
that's where our catchments are too, so that is something
we'll need to watch well.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
I hope the Tasman region in particular get some of
that drawing us over the next month, because I've got
a hell of a toad yet.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
Today it doesn't look great, I'll be honest. And the
issue is like the rain fall events that you know,
some of them may be big, some of them may
be more pedestrian. But when the ground gets so wat
I mean it's already wet now, but you know that continues,
then you get these pedestrians sort of ordinary rainfall events,
and they cause inordinate sort of problems, you know, because
the ground is really moist and wet and the rain
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has nowhere to go. So that's sort of the kind
of one of the things remindful of these kind of
compounding effects over the course of time.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Okay, there we go. I was going to say, Chris
Brandeleno from newell Let's try Chris Brandoleno from Earth Sciences,
New Zealand. Earth Wind and Fire is easy to say.
We're going to take a break. Paul Allison's going to
do sports news today. He's in town for the test.
He will be bringing you some of the Action tomorrow
will tell you all about where you can hear the
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radio commentary, and Michelle will be in here with Rural
News and we're going to announce our winners from yesterday.
We had two one thousand dollars dollar vouchers to give
away from Rural Co. Great Day, and Ashburton will tell
you who took those away before the end of the
hour as well. I got ask with the winners in us.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
I'll show you mine, show me all.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Welcome back to the country. I don't know where Michelle
Watt's gone to, but she's got the sports news for
Paul Allison to read. Oh she's good. She's going to
front up as she is. She coming in. You're going
to thank you, Michelle. We try to be punctual on this.
Now you're going to do the Rural News. Yeah, yes,
she's not on a mic at the moment, she's going
to be. She's disappeared again.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
A quick's end, Jamie quicksand.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
I'll tell you what I'll do, well, I wait for
Michelle to get organized. Here's the winners from yesterday, the
one thousand dollars Rural Co in store voucher. We met
a lovely young farm and couple Tash and haymush Moore.
They farm three kilometers north of Ashburton, and they're the
people put the baileage bales out and dressed them up
(26:02):
as smurfs and all that sort of stuff. Apparently they're
local legends. So perchance they walked past us and I
said they looked like a young couple that could do
with a hand. So they took away that one. And
then the rest of you around the country were able
to text rural into five nine and our winner was
Helen Rapsi from Tinwold on the tin Wold Mayfield Road
(26:25):
RD one, ash Burton. Well done, Helen, thank you for entering.
We had literally hundreds and hundreds of entries. You were
the lucky winner, as selected by someone in Auckland. I
was just given the name. Here's someone from Dunedin who's
actually turned up in the studio.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
The Country's world news with cub Cadet, New Zealand's leading
right on Lawnbower brands it steel Ford dot co dot
z for your local stockist.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Hard can it be to print the sports news out?
For Paul Allison? Michelle, what's your excuse?
Speaker 4 (26:56):
You're a hard task master.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
No, no, I just said get your ars in hair
because we'll got R news. I say that, no, I
can't say that.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
You literally did yell that down the hallway.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Well, I don't know what you were doing, but anyhow,
what's your Royal news.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Ryal news today, sir? Of course we've got Young Farmer
yet grand final happening. But also alongside that is the
region of Now the numbers have absolutely spiked off the
radar with the points on this Targo Southland is still
in the lead with four thy seven hundred and seven points.
Taranaki Manu were two second place with three nine four nine,
so they're just not far behind, and Tasman have nineteen
(27:28):
hundred and twenty points and the third. Now, you can
still vote for that if you head to FMG dot
co dot z ford slash Region off and help those
teams get through. But I think Otago Sealthon might take
it out.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Jamie, well, that would be a good home victory. Looking
forward to seeing who's wins that one. It's anyone's race.
I think the favorites though, as I said to Raider
Hugh Jackson and Gareth mckirchhear, but favoritism doesn't mean much
in that competition. Up next, Paul Allison with Sport.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Sports with fco visit them online and halfco dot co
dot nzid.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
A bit of a dirty trick Michelle played on me.
She just gave me a blank sheet of paper and said, look,
make it, make it up, will you? And so I'm
not really sure we're going to talk about it. I
did hear about Mills Mulliana, you know, talking about the
change of positions for modern day players, and said it's
much easier these days to be adaptable than what it
was back in his day. And Rico Yuanni, as we know,
returns to the wing in the opening Test match tomorrow night,
and that even seven oh five Billy Proctor starts at
(28:24):
center and Molliaana shifted from full back to center during
his playing times, and he admitted that he struggled then,
but he believes that Yuannie won't. I don't think he
will either. Lablue looks pretty green tomorrow night when they
face the All Blacks the French. They've got eight debutantes
five and they're starting fifteen three on the reserve bench,
and I think they've only got an average of about
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nine Test matches per player, whereas the All Blacks have
got over forty eight and they're starting fifteen. So it's
the Baby Blacks all over again from nineteen eighty six,
but the roles have been reversed. And then the English
footballer Trent Alexandra arn has joined his new ral Madrid
colleagues and holding a minute silence for former Liverpool teammate
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Diego Jotta, who was being sly killed in a car crash.
That's the sports news, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Yeah, Lions, the Australia Lions.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
No, it's wartas tomorrow, is it?
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Warts tomorrow. Chris Russell is useless. I recorded him away
bit earlier this morning. I'm gonna have to Jamie. Well,
I know he was talking about the first test of
the Lions game. I might have not what he said.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Tomorrow Argentina versus England as well.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
And I got a text and from the old program
director up up at Highgate there accusing me of workplace
bullying on me. No, no, no, no me on Michelle. Yeah,
we love Michelle right, even though she's from belle Cluth.
You like Manuel from Barcelona's Michelle from Belle Cluther. That's
(29:53):
where ye all good? All good southern towns indeed. Up next, well,
I'm gonna have to do some ed on the Chris
Russell interview because ah, just one of those days. Up next, though,
I can trust this bloke because he was the nineteen
ninety five share Milker of the Year. We go back
a long way. He's running the Rabobank Farm Succession workshops.
(30:16):
Up next we have Lawrence Field.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
In room from me with.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Great to catch up with old friends on the country.
This bloke and I go way back to the nineteen
nineties when he was the sheer Milker of the Year
and I was a young pup starting out on radio.
He was one of my first guests, Lawrence Field. These days,
Lawrence is a farm accountant and the wire wrapper, hobby farmer,
and more importantly for the purposes of this yarn, Lawrence,
(30:51):
you're running the farm succession workshops for Rabobank. Great to
catch up mate. Good afternoon, and you've just flown out
of I think the Blenham Nelson region where you were
doing a workshop back to the wire rapper or you're
making your way back there. How bad is it the weather.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
Afternoon, Jamie. Yeah, it was got held up out of Blenham.
I don't know what the thing was there that in
New Zealand plane couldn't get in, so drove across the
Nelson and got out this morning. But it still looks
a bit rough in that area.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
How do you segue from a share milker of the
year because you and your wife Marsella at the time
were great farmers, the best shaer farmers or share milkers
in the country, to being a farm accountant and then
getting on the road for Rabobank. Because your life is
a bit like mine at the moment, Lawrence, you're on
the road almost full time.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
Yeah, I just started up. I think I've been away
from home to three or four days out of for
the last ten weeks, three or four days a week.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Here.
Speaker 8 (31:51):
Look, these are the sort of third module of our
financial skills workshops for Rubbobank. And you know it was
on the back of straw demand from farmers talking to farmers.
It's pretty topical at the moment, Jamie with Todd Chartrois's
white paper, and you know a bit of discussion in
the media, but there's a real need out there for
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families to address this, and I think procrastination is not
an option.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Awkward conversation to have, though.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
It is, Jamie, and I think it's fair to acknowledge.
And one of the things that came out of the
room even just yesterday was, Hey, we're not in this alone.
Other people are going through the similar issues. It's not
easy because you know, it's about the numbers and it's
about future plans, but it's also really emotional. You know,
for some people they might be fifth generation on that farm,
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or they've built up the business. And when I mentioned
the R word Jamie, that the retirement, it's sort of
I get quite a range of perspectives on that. You know,
some people are basically in denial.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Some farm succession plans just not an option in some ways,
because I'm thinking, you've battled away thirty or forty years
on the farm, You've worked really hard, but you don't
want to retire and be a pauper just to allow
the next generation in because surely after that length of
tenure of graft you deserve better than a shoe box
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in the middle of road. It's a bit of Monty
Python there by the way.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
Absolutely, Jamie, I think, and we talk about this in
the workshops. To me, it absolutely starts with the owners.
You know, they're the first priority. There's got to be
a really good option for them. You know, where are
they going to live, how much capital do they need,
how much income do they need? And then we need
to think does anybody else in the family want to
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go farming? Is that viable? Would they make a good farmer?
And I think, you know, we talk about succession slash
business transition, it may be that selling the farm is
the best option for everybody, you know, and I think
we shouldn't kind of rule that out as a possibility
or think that that's a failure if we do that.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Yeah, and maybe the kids can then extract some capital
from you know, the farming or the family farming operation. Okay,
you're doing these workshops around the country for Rabobank, But
the good part of it is just to finish on.
They're free for all New Zealand farmers, regardless of who
you're bank with. And I'll give Rabobank a pat on
the bank for doing this.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (34:31):
Look, it's an initiative of their client council, Jamie. They're
putting bat money back into the industry, you know, to
kind of build capacity and education. And you're right, it's
open to any farmers around the country. They just need
to jump onto the Rabobank Client Council website and there's
a place there to either register for upcoming website workshops
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or register their interest if there's not one coming up
in your immediate area and find.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
And out more. Go to rabobank dot co, dot and
zed Ford slash Client hyphen Counsels and that will direct
you to exactly the right place. Lawrence. Great to catch
up again. Gee, we've been chatting for thirty years. Doesn't
seem that long, does it.
Speaker 8 (35:13):
No, it goes by in a flash. That's what somebody
said at the workshop, Jamie. It's all happened too quick.
I'm not ready to retire.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
It sounds like me in this job. See you later, CHERRYO,
Bye bye, Welcome back to the country. Here's the Chris
Russell interview minus a small letter around the Lions test
rightio ridiculously inadequate penalties for illegal food imports. And this
always irks me when I'm coming in and out of
(35:42):
the country that people get caught up at customs because
they've stupidly, absolutely stupidly brought food and sometimes on purpose,
sometimes not well.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
And you watch those shows on TV, Jamie. I suppose
you get them too, where they buy a security s.
Some people turn up with the suitcase and the customs
data said the clear are nothing. Nothing declare they say
in Boken English. And when you open it up, it's
completely full of buddy frogs, legs and fried meat and
pork and you name it in there. Well, this is
(36:15):
the case. I thought was ridiculous. It was almost what
planet are we on? Sort of idea here, because this
one was caught bringing sixty two tons of meat and
produce from Thailand to distribute on Sydney's black market, including
raw and cooked pork, frogs, edible insects, beef, chicken fish,
raw prawns, and insect infested fruit. And it was tipped off,
(36:39):
so they declared. She didn't declare. Obviously it was tipped up.
She was put in jail and the goods had traces
of African swine fever, Newcastle disease and white spot disease,
and yet the judge let her off with a twenty
two months intensive corrections order and one hundred and fifty
hours of community service. I just think it's absolutely ridiculous.
(37:01):
We make all these noises and we argue with Trump
about bringing his beef in.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
And when someone's.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Caught blatant be ignoring it all, you know, we just
give them a slap on the wrist with a wet
lettuce sleep. It's so pathetic.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Yep, she should be on the slammer for teen years.
That's endangering your country quite literally. Right, let's talk about
Trump and Elbow. Never the twin shall meet.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
Well, we've just had our Foreign Minister Penny Yong, Penny
Wong over in America meeting up with Marco Rubio, her
equivalent in the US, and he's said that Albo is
on the list to be met with. But of course
the deadline on the tariff measures, of the delay in
the tariff measures runs out on the ninth of July,
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and at that point we go to ten percent on
all of our imports and fifty percent on our aluminium
and steel imports. And there doesn't to be any rush
by Trump to meet up with Albow. I don't think
he likes Rudd, who is our commissioner in the US,
who's quite openly been criticizing Trump. So he's just put
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Elbow on the back burner. And so it looks like
we will start paying these but of course they're only
going to help hurt Americans, as we talked about before, Jamie,
because they have got to have the meat and they're
just going to pay the extra for it. We haven't
put any reciprocal tariffs here for the same reason that
we don't want to hurt our consumers in Australia.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
Jamie, Chris Rupper Russell. That's another week and it's been
a tough week for a lot of people. Our thoughts
go out to all those affected rural communities dealing with
the flooding and facing the big cleanup on behalf of
the Country team and the team at Farmstrong. Stay safe
and check it on your neighbors. Go the abs.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
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lave French flavor. First test tomorrow here in Dunedin. Really
looking forward to us, so I reckon the song would
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have been on air about the same time as their
first guest was captaining the All Blacks. I might ask
him in a tech tyne we'll talk a weey bit
of foddy, but more importantly he's got a big history
in forestry and certainly carbon credits carbon farming so interesting.
Will be interested to get the thoughts of Tane Randall.
(01:13):
To kick off the Country today, Radar Andrew Lumsdon is
down on Imber cargo for day two of the FMG
Young Farmer Grand Final. It is practical day today and
we will see how they're getting on and what the
weather and track conditions are like in Imbicargol. In fact,
I think the practical days up the road in Winton,
which has a bit of a micro climate, maybe it's
(01:34):
better there. Chris Brandolino from Newa on the weather. Gee,
there's a lot of weather to talk about. Isn't a
Lawrence Field In a past life he was a New
Zealand sheer milker of the Year. These days he's a
wire wrapper, farm consultant, business consultant. He's running the Rabobank
Bank farm succession workshops. Chris Russell's there Osie correspondent as well,
(01:55):
and we'll tell you who won those thousand dollars vouchers
in Ashburton. Yes that I had a great day with
the team from Rural Co. It's all coming up on
the country. Michelle will be in with Rural News as well,
and we'll update sport for you. Paul Allison's wandering around,
Jason Pines and here Elliot Smith. They're all inunder need
and for the footy, we'll catch up with someone to
(02:17):
talk a bit of sport at the bottom of the hour.
But up next Tane Randall once leapt to go before
Raisor Robertson's first test of twenty twenty five. Here's a
(02:41):
bloke who would have played a bit of footy with
Raisa Robertson, former All Black captain Tayane Randall. And I'm
going to talk to you, Tane about farming, footy and
forestry because you've got a bit of a serious background
in forestry. Let's before we get onto the footy, talk
to me about forestry and carbon farming. Where do you
sit because you were into an early doors.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, so I actually worked overseas for a while. So
when the emissions market started in Europe as when I
first started for a trading company in London, I was trading.
We ended up training oil. But we're all say, the
missions market grew massively and so by the end when
I left, if you're buying oil, you're also buying essentially
European carbon credits. So you know, weab enough to be dangerous.
(03:25):
And we came back to New Zealand in two thousand
and nine and that was when the sort of carbon
market was sort of just really sort of starting in
New zeal ten and up it got involved quite heavily
up until sort of the twenty twelve thirteen when the
first cutoff period for pre nineteen ninety forestry all those
registrations were to be done, so heavily involved up more
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in the north. I spent a wee bit of time
down in the West Rowellen of Southland. But essentially, yeah,
more more and more about advisory around how how the
scheme works. I knew how it sort of worked globally,
but then we a bit of education helping people understand
how it sort of worked New Zealand's perspective and how
more important, how to apply it to their landholding.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Now I know you've got farming interest in hawks By.
I'm assuming it's in hawks Bay sheep and beef. How
does the carbon farming or the forestry versus sheep and
beef work in your mind? Have we got it right?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Controversial? Thanks Thick. I think it's getting better, you know.
And so essentially the market really kicked off in twenty
twelve in New Zealand. So it's only a twelve centen
you know for a lot of arts that's smoking mirrors,
that's part from whatever else. But for commodity trading and
that sort of stuff I overseen. It's existed for a
long time, very sophisticated for New Zealand. That was one
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of our first really internationally traded commodities which we could
do with pretty transparent price, with futures markets and stuff.
I've been a big fan of it because more than anything,
you know, no farmers are up in arms about it
and hold on. But the only people who can benefit
it are landholes farmers. Nowhere else in New Zealand can
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actually grow carbon credits.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
But there's plenty of places we've been sorry, Tane, there's
plenty of places on your farm surely where you can
plant trees and get the carbon credits. I'm talking about
the blanket planting of farms. That's what I don't like,
and I know examples of where arable land, good arable land,
has been planted into trees. It's just not right.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I completely agree. And we know we're in Hawk's Bay.
The East coast in New Zealand grows pretty good pine.
We've had we've seen some big, big, sometime historic blocks
going into pines and it's it's what the companies who
are doing that. There are one rotation, one generation the
short term, you know, but what they do put in
pines and they'll cut and run. Really they'll take the
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first scene they call averaging first eight sixteen to eighteen
years carbon and then they don't care out the next
hundred plus years. And that's that that really got away
on us. And I really against that from another perspective,
from just a farmers most and who I'm in Hawk's Bay, right,
so some really good land, but since most farms I'm
guessing around twenty twenty five percent of land, most farmers
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don't want to go on there, makes perfect reason to
be putting into some sort of foreigner natives, pine, African,
red whatever else. And it does you know, for that
the poorer quality parts of the land, you do earn
more from a carbon perspective than you would ever do
from a farming perspective. But I've always thought, you know,
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any farmer should have some sort of forestry, commercial or
long term as part of the portfolio, especially in Hawk's Bay,
where you don't just get big flat blocks of vand
you've got some you know, you got some nice flat stuff,
but a rolling quite a bit of a bit of
rough stuff. It's the rough stuff which and here I
from a strategic perspective, is the best stuff we should
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have in forest But where these companies have gone out
and bought just fantastic nice rolling land or flat and
blanket planted, it's just really poor. And I'd be feeling
the government going some way in terms of stopping that.
We land class six plus now to do that, and
you can't do whole blanket plantings, which I think is
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long over due. But yeah, at the same time, you know,
the forestry all has historically been a big part of
New Zealand's economy, and I don't know who who to believe,
but the forestry is still probably only about the same
sort of planting hectares it was in twenty seventeen. So
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when you look at the stats, maybe sometimes you get
a bit more emotional than what virtual data data seems
to think.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
All right, let's move on from forestry just to Tanne
Randall with his former All Black Captain farming farming, and
then Foddy So are you getting your hands dirty on
the sheep and beef farm taine? You're getting on the
hand piece.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Not even close. The closer I get, the more sort
of things go wrong. Now we've got some family interests,
so we've bought some forest middle in the north farm.
We've got to be some sheep, interesting farming, you know.
In Hawk's Bay. Everyone seems to be having a good
time at the moment, which is quite good because everyone
was crying a.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Bit last year.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And as I say, the more I get involved, the
more things go wrong. But take your teen interest, keen interest,
and yeah, that's that's we've pretty heavy spitting in Hawk's Bay.
We seem to be pretty happy with how the weather is,
how the pricing is. You know, Apple's going pretty well
as well. So I don't know what it's like for
you guys down south, but where I came at the.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Moment, yeah, I know down here, and you're a bit
like me. I'm a George Street farmer. I know you
know they needing well. So yeah, the closer I get,
the more trouble for the farm. Anyhow, let me finish
on the footy. France. You can never ever underestimate France,
and you probably still have nightmares about France. Tayne Randall
after nineteen ninety nine, But how do you see this
(09:11):
game going?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Well, I'm I'm really excited. Okay, the French are coming over.
Pretty disrespectful, you know, it's the top of the world
table clash, top to of the top three teams in
the world, heavyweights, best of three, you know, pretty disrespectful
what they've done teams of seeing their B team over.
But I know it won't actually be that bad. But
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from an interesting perspective us oh, I, we'll see how
we go, you know. But it was really having seen
the team that raised it announced Yester. I haven't been
dis excited about the potential or you know, the potential
all back team for a long while, the loose forward tree.
I think finally we've got a good belly savvy on
the Openside'm really happy of that two po by massive
(10:00):
putting them at six, putting having big locks on you know,
small locks, transferring things you can do the same side,
same deal at blind side. Hasn't always worked and of
course Leo Willie, but what I like about them, for
the first time for a long while, we've actually got
a balanced loose forward trio. I was looking at it.
You know, when you pick the team, you've got to
pick the best team, the best combination and having a
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big strong blind side having a ball playing high work
rate number eight and you know Savia on the open
side first time since really the Cano Reed mccare loose
fortune that I feel like we've got to balance loose
Ford trier issue have had over the last number of
years is that you know, we had Sam Caine and
Ardie Savia, two fantastic players both if you look at them,
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both started open so they're both open sides. But the coaches,
rather than you know, making a hard decision and choosing
the best for loose Ford combination, have just picked the
best players and put them in the team. And that's
not necessarily, I believe, the best thing to do. So
I'm really excited to see how this loose Fort ture
where goes. It might be a failure, but at least
I think from a combination perspective, they've got the right intent.
(11:06):
But the other woe, which is you know Ricca Yanni
on the way, I could not agree more. Yeah, he's
a strike winger. He's a strike player. He's not all
center's right. If you talk about roles in the API play,
you know, if you're a rock you got to be
talk catch line. If you're a wing, you got to
be fast and he's there. If you're a center, you've
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got to be able to read defense and you've got
to be able to pass the ball to your wingers.
Those are the two key roles I see as a
as a center. You know, talk about the best midfielders
we've had, you know, Conrad Smith, Joe Stan, Frank Barnes, what, Yeah,
they were all fantastic athletes, but their stability was the
fact that when it came to defense, they read defenses.
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It's quite complicated, the myths that they read defenses really well,
that's not Riky one. He's the great est of it.
A very good tackler, but from a system defense, he's
not great. And as we all know, has while he's
a fantastic runner, his distribution is not greatness. New Zealand
has really key bonds over the rest of the world
with his starkly had strike wingers. We want our wingers
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to get the ball, not the center's running with her.
And so those two things makes me really excited about
this weekend.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Hey, Tane Randall, like a chat to you all day,
haven't got all day. Great to talk forestry, farming and
footy with you.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Cool mate. Cheers have a good day.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
That is nineteen after twelve. Thank you, Tane Randolph. Interesting
comments and I kicked off the show. We're playing songs
with the French theme Sailor V from girl band What
happened to all those girl bands? Bewitched? And I thought
I thought it was roughly when Tanne was playing for
the All Blacks. In fact it was. It was nineteen
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ninety eight. And Taine's off the end of the line now,
so I guess we can talk freely about it. Poor not.
I'm sure Tane would as well if he was still
on the end of the line. But nineteen ninety eight
is famous for what Paul Allison, the best rugby statian
statistician I know, rugby wise. What's it famous for? Is
this when we got beaten?
Speaker 7 (13:08):
We got beaten in nineteen ninety eight by South Africa.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Is that the five nil that you want to bring back?
Speaker 7 (13:13):
Is it, Jamie?
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Five nil losses? We lost five tests in a row.
Never done it before in All Black history.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
Oh that one of them in the Athletic Park in
those days.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Yeah, And Tane Randall was see the captain of nine eight.
He definitely was a ninety nine when we lost to
the French great rugby play.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Yeah, it's great to hear him excited about this this
match tomorrow. You know, we call him a head, but
because he was so young when he was playing for
the All Blacks and got named as All Black captain.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
And he's excited.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
He's made some good points about the loose boards and
Ricoe Juanian I reckon.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
I haven't met anyone yet, Paul, and this is we'll
get back to farming. I haven't met anyone yet who's
not pleased that Rica Yuanni has gone out to the
wing where he belongs.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Well, there's no place for him in midfield. You look
at that long gem they've got. They've got Jordi Barrett,
Billy Prock, that Quintupia on the bench who's just played
the house down this Super Rugby season. And then the
man we know in the Deep South they call him
Gym the difference, Timothy tavitavn A way, those guys have
got to get a run somewhere in the series and
they've got to be in the midfield. So there's no
room for Rico.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
In that twelve or thirteen jersey. He's got to go out. Yeah,
and I don't think Caleb Clark or sever reesa world
class am I being unkind.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
I think Severu Reese is a pretty useful player. And
Caleb Clark hasn't shown his best this year.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
And as best as good to be fair, it's good.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
He's good, but he's good, but he hasn't been at.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
As mess not as fast as Rico u ARENI though yeah,
no will Rico.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
I still think he does offer something on the wing
and I think that's the right place for him. And
I think Ardie Savia at seven is the.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Right place for him. Absolutely. We're a grewing can't have that. Okay.
Up next we are going to talk some farming. We're
going to head down to him for carg all down
the road from us at Stay two of the FMG
Young Farmer Grand Final, we'll catch up with Radar Andrew Lumsdon.
(15:14):
Welcome back to the country. Twenty five after twelve Vu
Levu from Abba were the tricklers who are in Dunedin
for the footy tomorrow. We're going to I was going
to say in the cargo that's where the Young Farmer
Grand Final will be tomorrow, but today they're in Winton,
Central Southland. Micro Climate great farm and country. There we
(15:37):
find Andrew Lumston, you may know him better as Teradar,
and you haven't got a bad day for the practical
radar micro climate.
Speaker 8 (15:44):
Indeed, look, it is a cracker of a day here.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It was a little chilling to start off with, but now.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
You've got that soft, lovely winter light. It's firm underfoot,
snow on the takatimus and it is look, I don't
think it's not.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
Nearly a breath of wind.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
You couldn't have got a bit of self one day
for what is shaping up to be in the excellent
FMG Young From of the Year Grand Final.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Now it wasn't so flash yesterday, but it didn't really
matter because they were mainly indoors for the technical day.
Although you did have a parade to kick it off, did.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
You No, No?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Did We had that indoors as well for everything was
that the excellent ascot they're an in Vicago, So we
had everyone indoors. Got all the contestants or the aggreg kids.
They had a competition for best dressed and we welcomed
all of them. But yes, all the technical stuff was
indoors for the QMG Young Farmer competitors. And you know,
(16:37):
that's a great challenge as well. It's a shame people
don't really get to see it because boy oh boy,
they are pushed. You know, an excellent HR challenge that
involves them turning up MPI had arrived. There was some
stock the sheep and some lambs and some mud that
they had to deal with because of it as she
was staffing and the staff with them employee was a
belligerent and unhelpful, so they had to work their way
through that and then deal with.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
The farm owner.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
They've had sick weeks or so to put together an
innovation idea. They had to put a big business case
for all of that community footprints. You know, what are
these folks like when they're back in their actual communities.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
That's a part of what it means.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
To be a farmer in twenty twenty five as well,
plus a couple of other things. And now today, look,
I've just heard the sound of one of these big
new Holland tractors rawing up because they've got a baylor
on behind, they've put some butchery, they've got sheets, they've
just had thirty five minutes to knock a bridge together,
and then they've got the head to head and the
farmers we are pushing them to the brink today.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Yeah, and I know you're short on time because you've
got to m see this practical day. But we've got
justin Ryegrock from Northern Jack Burke from Taranaki, Manaa two,
Hugh Jackson, Why Bob, why Kattow Bay, have plenty, James
Robbie East Coast, George Leatham, Tasman, Gareth mckirche Arangi and
the Home the Home favorite is cam Smith for Otago Southland.
(17:54):
Now two of them I think are repeat offenders or
they've been there before and they do haven't advantage. Hugh
Jackson and then Gareth mc kertsheer look you as well.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
He a former grand finalist for Otago seuthhone before he
went back up to the family farm in the Arkow.
He helped organize Waycattos last year as well, So no
no slouch when it comes to knowing the competition. Gareth
mkirchere very driven as well. But you know it's how
they hold their head on the day because everyone's got
the same sort of situation and it's it's how they
(18:25):
react to it. But yes, I think if you if
you've been in the competition before, you know just how
much goes into it before you even turn up.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
But you know it's all. Every time I speak to
people who are.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Coming and having another look at cracking in, you say
what what would you do next time?
Speaker 8 (18:38):
Differently?
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Time management, yeah, time yeah, handling yourself under pressure.
Speaker 8 (18:44):
Yes, you know as I say that, that's part of
it as well.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Look, we saw that a couple of years back when
Emma Pool took it out and she was frustrated by
the fact that she could not get that pin in
the in the tractor and onto the onto the implement
with the in the in the ag.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
Sports event THEA.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
She persevered, and she persevered, and she persevered, and she
ended up getting it and taking it out.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
So you know that's what we're testing.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
All right. Radar, have a good call tomorrow night in
the cargo and we will speak to the twenty twenty
five FMG Young Farmer of the Year, whoever it might
be on Monday show. Go well and enjoy your day
in Winton.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
Brilliant.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It's anyone's game.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
CATCHU laid up, Andrew Lumsdon. Radar Teda does a great
job as the voice of the FMG Young Farmer Grand Final.
Weather's up next. Gee, there's been a lot of that
around It's well. I was going to say, maybe the
Tasman region dodged a second bullet. They didn't really, but
it could have been worse. But the first one is very,
(19:43):
very troublesome. So we're going to have a look at
the weather around the country. Up next with Chris Brandolino
from newa. It is twenty nine away from one. Youre
(20:04):
with the country brought to you by brand Thank you
to the text who said turn Bewitched down. I'm not
sure whether that's because it was too loud or whether
this person just didn't like Bewitched and girl bands from
the nineties. What's wrong with girl bands from the nineties.
We had our own one called true bliss. The weather
recently has been anything but true bliss. We've had so
much of it. To tell us a wee bit more
(20:25):
about it, Chris Brandolino, I was gonna say from Neewa, Chris,
but you guys got a new name.
Speaker 9 (20:32):
Yeah, Earth Science is New Zealand. I know it's a
bit lengthier than the word Neewa, but yeah, we merged
with GNS as of the first of July, so just
a few days ago, and eventually met Service comes into
the fold. So kind of creating this all hazard that
this all earth science approach, and honestly it's going to
be a great thing, saying organizations, but a better things
(20:53):
as we all come together and work together in a
more collaborative way. Yeah, so that's our name, earth Science
is New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Well you should have just named yourself after one of
my favorite bands, earth Wind and Fire. That would have
done the trick as well. Well some now you tell us, Yeah, okay, Hey,
So some of these rainfall numbers, particularly the likes of
in the Marlborough, Tasman Nelson region and obviously Taranaki more recently,
how bad is it?
Speaker 9 (21:19):
Well, Tananaki had quite a drop of rain some locations
well over two hundred millimeters of rain over the gosh
within a day, in some places seventy eighty millimeters of
rain within a couple of hours. So that caused the
flooding New Plymouth near the mountain itself over toward.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Tasman.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
I'm looking at some of the gauges from Tasman District
Council and some of the higher elevations anywhere from seventy
five to one hundred millimeters of rain over the past
day and a half and it's fallen on wet ground.
So this is the reason for the concern. Now, we
still have to be mindful. There will be showers and
maybe some downboards and thunderstorms across the today, including Tedanaki,
(22:01):
including the top of the South Island, so we have
to keep our eyes on that once today bypasses. Still
kind of an unsettled day. Tomorrow it looks like for
a good chunk of the North Island with showers and
maybe if you thunderstorms, but we'll catch a break, Jamie.
So Sunday, Monday and probably Tuesday largely dry across the country,
a little cooler, particularly eastern parts of the country will
(22:24):
find cooler temperatures.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Unfortunately, as you can.
Speaker 9 (22:27):
Tell about the dramatic pause, we're gonna be dealing with
another weather system coming from the west and northwest. This
will be tapping down that tropical moisture and it looks
like the second half of next week, so Thursday Friday
kind of timeframe. We're looking at another low with connections
to the north and therefore the risk of heavy rain
and Jamie. We issued our long range outlook or seasonal
(22:48):
Climate Outlook just a couple days ago, and this is
a concern we highlighted in that outlook is for the
next three months. In July especially, there is going to
be this increased risk for rain fall events with tropical
and subtropical connections. Basically, low pressure is favored near in
northwest of the country. High pressure favored well to our southeast,
(23:09):
and that will sort of facilitate this north kind of
quarterly flow, so it could be northeast northwest, but that
will set us up for a wet July for much
of the country and for the next three months through
the end of September. It's the northern parts of both
islands areas that have been wet that have the highest
risk for having a wetter than usual three month period.
(23:30):
Got to watch the west of the South Island. Dryness
could actually emerge there as you work away through the
weeks and months ahead because of a lack of westerlies.
So that is an area we'll have to watch from
I guess Interior or Southland all the way up to
hast hoky Tika and the west of the South Island
that's where our catchments are too, so that is something
we'll need to watch well.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
I hope the Tasman region in particular get some of
that drawing us over the next month, because I've got
a hell of a toad yet.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
Today it doesn't look great, I'll be honest. And the
issue is like the rain fall events that you know,
some of them may be big, some of them may
be more pedestrian. But when the ground gets so wat
I mean it's already wet now, but you know that continues,
then you get these pedestrians sort of ordinary rainfall events,
and they cause inordinate sort of problems, you know, because
the ground is really moist and wet and the rain
(24:17):
has nowhere to go. So that's sort of the kind
of one of the things remindful of these kind of
compounding effects over the course of time.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Okay, there we go. I was going to say, Chris
Brandeleno from newell Let's try Chris Brandoleno from Earth Sciences,
New Zealand. Earth Wind and Fire is easy to say.
We're going to take a break. Paul Allison's going to
do sports news today. He's in town for the test.
He will be bringing you some of the Action tomorrow
will tell you all about where you can hear the
(24:47):
radio commentary, and Michelle will be in here with Rural
News and we're going to announce our winners from yesterday.
We had two one thousand dollars dollar vouchers to give
away from Rural Co. Great Day, and Ashburton will tell
you who took those away before the end of the
hour as well. I got ask with the winners in us.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
I'll show you mine, show me all.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Welcome back to the country. I don't know where Michelle
Watt's gone to, but she's got the sports news for
Paul Allison to read. Oh she's good. She's going to
front up as she is. She coming in. You're going
to thank you, Michelle. We try to be punctual on this.
Now you're going to do the Rural News. Yeah, yes,
she's not on a mic at the moment, she's going
to be. She's disappeared again.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
A quick's end, Jamie quicksand.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
I'll tell you what I'll do, well, I wait for
Michelle to get organized. Here's the winners from yesterday, the
one thousand dollars Rural Co in store voucher. We met
a lovely young farm and couple Tash and haymush Moore.
They farm three kilometers north of Ashburton, and they're the
people put the baileage bales out and dressed them up
(26:02):
as smurfs and all that sort of stuff. Apparently they're
local legends. So perchance they walked past us and I
said they looked like a young couple that could do
with a hand. So they took away that one. And
then the rest of you around the country were able
to text rural into five nine and our winner was
Helen Rapsi from Tinwold on the tin Wold Mayfield Road
(26:25):
RD one, ash Burton. Well done, Helen, thank you for entering.
We had literally hundreds and hundreds of entries. You were
the lucky winner, as selected by someone in Auckland. I
was just given the name. Here's someone from Dunedin who's
actually turned up in the studio.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
The Country's world news with cub Cadet, New Zealand's leading
right on Lawnbower brands it steel Ford dot co dot
z for your local stockist.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Hard can it be to print the sports news out?
For Paul Allison? Michelle, what's your excuse?
Speaker 4 (26:56):
You're a hard task master.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
No, no, I just said get your ars in hair
because we'll got R news. I say that, no, I
can't say that.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
You literally did yell that down the hallway.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Well, I don't know what you were doing, but anyhow,
what's your Royal news.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Ryal news today, sir? Of course we've got Young Farmer
yet grand final happening. But also alongside that is the
region of Now the numbers have absolutely spiked off the
radar with the points on this Targo Southland is still
in the lead with four thy seven hundred and seven points.
Taranaki Manu were two second place with three nine four nine,
so they're just not far behind, and Tasman have nineteen
(27:28):
hundred and twenty points and the third. Now, you can
still vote for that if you head to FMG dot
co dot z ford slash Region off and help those
teams get through. But I think Otago Sealthon might take
it out.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Jamie, well, that would be a good home victory. Looking
forward to seeing who's wins that one. It's anyone's race.
I think the favorites though, as I said to Raider
Hugh Jackson and Gareth mckirchhear, but favoritism doesn't mean much
in that competition. Up next, Paul Allison with Sport.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Sports with fco visit them online and halfco dot co
dot nzid.
Speaker 7 (28:02):
A bit of a dirty trick Michelle played on me.
She just gave me a blank sheet of paper and said, look,
make it, make it up, will you? And so I'm
not really sure we're going to talk about it. I
did hear about Mills Mulliana, you know, talking about the
change of positions for modern day players, and said it's
much easier these days to be adaptable than what it
was back in his day. And Rico Yuanni, as we know,
returns to the wing in the opening Test match tomorrow night,
and that even seven oh five Billy Proctor starts at
(28:24):
center and Molliaana shifted from full back to center during
his playing times, and he admitted that he struggled then,
but he believes that Yuannie won't. I don't think he
will either. Lablue looks pretty green tomorrow night when they
face the All Blacks the French. They've got eight debutantes
five and they're starting fifteen three on the reserve bench,
and I think they've only got an average of about
(28:45):
nine Test matches per player, whereas the All Blacks have
got over forty eight and they're starting fifteen. So it's
the Baby Blacks all over again from nineteen eighty six,
but the roles have been reversed. And then the English
footballer Trent Alexandra arn has joined his new ral Madrid
colleagues and holding a minute silence for former Liverpool teammate
(29:05):
Diego Jotta, who was being sly killed in a car crash.
That's the sports news, Jamie.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Yeah, Lions, the Australia Lions.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
No, it's wartas tomorrow, is it?
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Warts tomorrow. Chris Russell is useless. I recorded him away
bit earlier this morning. I'm gonna have to Jamie. Well,
I know he was talking about the first test of
the Lions game. I might have not what he said.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Tomorrow Argentina versus England as well.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
And I got a text and from the old program
director up up at Highgate there accusing me of workplace
bullying on me. No, no, no, no me on Michelle. Yeah,
we love Michelle right, even though she's from belle Cluth.
You like Manuel from Barcelona's Michelle from Belle Cluther. That's
(29:53):
where ye all good? All good southern towns indeed. Up next, well,
I'm gonna have to do some ed on the Chris
Russell interview because ah, just one of those days. Up next, though,
I can trust this bloke because he was the nineteen
ninety five share Milker of the Year. We go back
a long way. He's running the Rabobank Farm Succession workshops.
(30:16):
Up next we have Lawrence Field.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
In room from me with.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Great to catch up with old friends on the country.
This bloke and I go way back to the nineteen
nineties when he was the sheer Milker of the Year
and I was a young pup starting out on radio.
He was one of my first guests, Lawrence Field. These days,
Lawrence is a farm accountant and the wire wrapper, hobby farmer,
and more importantly for the purposes of this yarn, Lawrence,
(30:51):
you're running the farm succession workshops for Rabobank. Great to
catch up mate. Good afternoon, and you've just flown out
of I think the Blenham Nelson region where you were
doing a workshop back to the wire rapper or you're
making your way back there. How bad is it the weather.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
Afternoon, Jamie. Yeah, it was got held up out of Blenham.
I don't know what the thing was there that in
New Zealand plane couldn't get in, so drove across the
Nelson and got out this morning. But it still looks
a bit rough in that area.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
How do you segue from a share milker of the
year because you and your wife Marsella at the time
were great farmers, the best shaer farmers or share milkers
in the country, to being a farm accountant and then
getting on the road for Rabobank. Because your life is
a bit like mine at the moment, Lawrence, you're on
the road almost full time.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
Yeah, I just started up. I think I've been away
from home to three or four days out of for
the last ten weeks, three or four days a week.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Here.
Speaker 8 (31:51):
Look, these are the sort of third module of our
financial skills workshops for Rubbobank. And you know it was
on the back of straw demand from farmers talking to farmers.
It's pretty topical at the moment, Jamie with Todd Chartrois's
white paper, and you know a bit of discussion in
the media, but there's a real need out there for
(32:13):
families to address this, and I think procrastination is not
an option.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Awkward conversation to have, though.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
It is, Jamie, and I think it's fair to acknowledge.
And one of the things that came out of the
room even just yesterday was, Hey, we're not in this alone.
Other people are going through the similar issues. It's not
easy because you know, it's about the numbers and it's
about future plans, but it's also really emotional. You know,
for some people they might be fifth generation on that farm,
(32:44):
or they've built up the business. And when I mentioned
the R word Jamie, that the retirement, it's sort of
I get quite a range of perspectives on that. You know,
some people are basically in denial.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Some farm succession plans just not an option in some ways,
because I'm thinking, you've battled away thirty or forty years
on the farm, You've worked really hard, but you don't
want to retire and be a pauper just to allow
the next generation in because surely after that length of
tenure of graft you deserve better than a shoe box
(33:22):
in the middle of road. It's a bit of Monty
Python there by the way.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
Absolutely, Jamie, I think, and we talk about this in
the workshops. To me, it absolutely starts with the owners.
You know, they're the first priority. There's got to be
a really good option for them. You know, where are
they going to live, how much capital do they need,
how much income do they need? And then we need
to think does anybody else in the family want to
(33:48):
go farming? Is that viable? Would they make a good farmer?
And I think, you know, we talk about succession slash
business transition, it may be that selling the farm is
the best option for everybody, you know, and I think
we shouldn't kind of rule that out as a possibility
or think that that's a failure if we do that.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Yeah, and maybe the kids can then extract some capital
from you know, the farming or the family farming operation. Okay,
you're doing these workshops around the country for Rabobank, But
the good part of it is just to finish on.
They're free for all New Zealand farmers, regardless of who
you're bank with. And I'll give Rabobank a pat on
the bank for doing this.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (34:31):
Look, it's an initiative of their client council, Jamie. They're
putting bat money back into the industry, you know, to
kind of build capacity and education. And you're right, it's
open to any farmers around the country. They just need
to jump onto the Rabobank Client Council website and there's
a place there to either register for upcoming website workshops
(34:55):
or register their interest if there's not one coming up
in your immediate area and find.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
And out more. Go to rabobank dot co, dot and
zed Ford slash Client hyphen Counsels and that will direct
you to exactly the right place. Lawrence. Great to catch
up again. Gee, we've been chatting for thirty years. Doesn't
seem that long, does it.
Speaker 8 (35:13):
No, it goes by in a flash. That's what somebody
said at the workshop, Jamie. It's all happened too quick.
I'm not ready to retire.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
It sounds like me in this job. See you later, CHERRYO,
Bye bye, Welcome back to the country. Here's the Chris
Russell interview minus a small letter around the Lions test
rightio ridiculously inadequate penalties for illegal food imports. And this
always irks me when I'm coming in and out of
(35:42):
the country that people get caught up at customs because
they've stupidly, absolutely stupidly brought food and sometimes on purpose,
sometimes not well.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
And you watch those shows on TV, Jamie. I suppose
you get them too, where they buy a security s.
Some people turn up with the suitcase and the customs
data said the clear are nothing. Nothing declare they say
in Boken English. And when you open it up, it's
completely full of buddy frogs, legs and fried meat and
pork and you name it in there. Well, this is
(36:15):
the case. I thought was ridiculous. It was almost what
planet are we on? Sort of idea here, because this
one was caught bringing sixty two tons of meat and
produce from Thailand to distribute on Sydney's black market, including
raw and cooked pork, frogs, edible insects, beef, chicken fish,
raw prawns, and insect infested fruit. And it was tipped off,
(36:39):
so they declared. She didn't declare. Obviously it was tipped up.
She was put in jail and the goods had traces
of African swine fever, Newcastle disease and white spot disease,
and yet the judge let her off with a twenty
two months intensive corrections order and one hundred and fifty
hours of community service. I just think it's absolutely ridiculous.
(37:01):
We make all these noises and we argue with Trump
about bringing his beef in.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
And when someone's.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Caught blatant be ignoring it all, you know, we just
give them a slap on the wrist with a wet
lettuce sleep. It's so pathetic.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Yep, she should be on the slammer for teen years.
That's endangering your country quite literally. Right, let's talk about
Trump and Elbow. Never the twin shall meet.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
Well, we've just had our Foreign Minister Penny Yong, Penny
Wong over in America meeting up with Marco Rubio, her
equivalent in the US, and he's said that Albo is
on the list to be met with. But of course
the deadline on the tariff measures, of the delay in
the tariff measures runs out on the ninth of July,
(37:42):
and at that point we go to ten percent on
all of our imports and fifty percent on our aluminium
and steel imports. And there doesn't to be any rush
by Trump to meet up with Albow. I don't think
he likes Rudd, who is our commissioner in the US,
who's quite openly been criticizing Trump. So he's just put
(38:03):
Elbow on the back burner. And so it looks like
we will start paying these but of course they're only
going to help hurt Americans, as we talked about before, Jamie,
because they have got to have the meat and they're
just going to pay the extra for it. We haven't
put any reciprocal tariffs here for the same reason that
we don't want to hurt our consumers in Australia.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
Jamie, Chris Rupper Russell. That's another week and it's been
a tough week for a lot of people. Our thoughts
go out to all those affected rural communities dealing with
the flooding and facing the big cleanup on behalf of
the Country team and the team at Farmstrong. Stay safe
and check it on your neighbors. Go the abs.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
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